View Full Version : One button mouse?Why???
Rajj
May 26, 2003, 09:31 PM
I always wondered on why is Apple comfortable with the one button mouse, or why they choose to use a one button mouse anyway?
Any thoughts?
:confused:
beatle888
May 26, 2003, 09:49 PM
ive heard the reason many times. here on macrumors no less. i believe the decision was made when the average person really knew nothing about computers. apple felt it wasnt necessary to confuse the user, and they were right. but now that the masses have some basic understanding of the mouse, their crying for more. me....i just got another mouse. no biggy.
mac15
May 26, 2003, 09:55 PM
why 2 buttons? form of function
Rajj
May 26, 2003, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by beatle888
i believe the decision was made when the average person really knew nothing about computers. apple felt it wasnt necessary to confuse the user, and they were right.
I couldn?t agree more that the average user don?t know squat about a computer, but what about the pro users?
beatle888
May 26, 2003, 10:03 PM
well thats a damn good point. :D i tend to lump the consumer and pro line together. your damn right, wtf are they thinking? especially since that maya push that happened about...what a year and a half ago.
oh damn im getting all worried. this wasnt a very good weekend for apple on the rumor boards. seems like everyone hates or is dissapointed in them to some degree lately. and now the news about the 970 not doing very well againse amd's and intels 64 bit chip. god i dont wanna go to pc land. they just dont THINK about all the details like apple does. sure apple has made some mistakes like the one button mouse for pro users but for the most part...i really love interfacing with my mac.
Rajj
May 26, 2003, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by mac15
why 2 buttons? form of function
Two buttons can accelerate your performance if you use shortcuts a lot(like copy and paste), especially if your job is on the line (like mine)!!
Wyrm
May 26, 2003, 10:16 PM
Like beatle888 was saying, just go to the local store and buy a 2 button mouse. Sure it might ruin the Wa, but you get 2 buttons.
I have a MS (dread) Intellimouse with a scroll wheel, and it works great in OS-X.
-Wyrm
Rajj
May 26, 2003, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Wyrm
Like beatle888 was saying, just go to the local store and buy a 2 button mouse. Sure it might ruin the Wa, but you get 2 buttons.
I have a MS (dread) Intellimouse with a scroll wheel, and it works great in OS-X.
-Wyrm
I have a TiBook, and when I am on a plane, there is no room for an external two-button mouse?.damn it!!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;) :p :cool:
Jimong5
May 26, 2003, 10:36 PM
Ya know.... Im sure theres 80000 topics on this.. Id like to give a MR forum tour....
beatle888
May 26, 2003, 10:39 PM
boy its a slow day, can we see the boredom :)
well i just did a search, here are the results.
http://forums.macrumors.com/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=137492&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending
Wyrm
May 26, 2003, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by Rajj
I have a TiBook, and when I am on a plane, there is no room for an external two-button mouse?.damn it!!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;) :p :cool:
Well the Intellimouse is optical, so you can use the arm-rest, back of the seat, or the guy next to you as a pad.
:D
-Wyrm
Rajj
May 26, 2003, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by beatle888
boy its a slow day, can we see the boredom :)
well i just did a search, here are the results.
http://forums.macrumors.com/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=137492&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending
I am to damn lazy to search through 362 threads!!:D :cool:
moby1
May 27, 2003, 12:24 AM
Them blues, I got.
http://homepage.mac.com/moby1/.Pictures/12793mouse.jpg
dswoodley
May 27, 2003, 12:59 AM
but wouldn't it be cool if at least Apple gave you the choice? Personally I am kind of clumsy with the mouse so I prefer the one button, but they should at least let it be the consumers choice!
Mblazened
May 27, 2003, 02:41 AM
its lefty-righty compatible
Snowy_River
May 27, 2003, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by Rajj
I have a TiBook, and when I am on a plane, there is no room for an external two-button mouse?.damn it!!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;) :p :cool:
Oh, please, let's not get into the split mouse button on a laptop. I hate those with a passion. They are never easy to use. I will always prefer using the control-click combination, or an external mouse (or, in my case, multi-button track ball).
As for giving pro-users a choice, almost all pro-users, both Mac and Windows, that I've known have promptly replaced the mouse that came with their computer with one of their liking. Therefore, I don't think that it's such a huge issue. (But, to the extent that it is, rumors point to a new multi-button pro mouse...)
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ibookin'
May 27, 2003, 04:07 AM
Originally posted by moby1
Them blues, I got.
I see someone's been browsing the SpyMac CD Cover contest. :D
Anyway, I have a Logitech mouse that I bought a few years ago (I believe it is a MouseMan+ or something, 3 buttons plus a scrollwheel), but I use it on my PC. Why, you ask? Because I like the look of the Pro Mouse, and the Logitech would spoil the beauty of the iMac/Pro KB combo.
I'm sure there are nice looking two button/scroll whell mice out there; I've even seen some at MacWorld, retailers, etc., but I have to say you can't beat the aesthetics of the Pro Mouse.
maradong
May 27, 2003, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by Rajj
I always wondered on why is Apple comfortable with the one button mouse, or why they choose to use a one button mouse anyway?
Any thoughts?
:confused:
why shall they use 2 buttons ? i worked perfectly well without any mouse 3 months during 3 weeks ago while i tried to install the xserver on my debian...
Catt
May 27, 2003, 04:23 AM
I must say that my experience of one button mousing on an iMac has been terrible.
I normally use a PC; a laptop with a cordless Logitech thumb driven trackball. When my mum got an iMac I loved it - until I tried to use the mouse! For the average PC user the mac shipping with a single button mouse is really annoying. To the extent that at times I got really frustrated because everything seemed to take three times as long.
Seeing as Apple is trying to get PC users to switch this one button fetish doesn't make much sense to me. If an average PC user (which I'm not) tried to use a display Mac in a store they will likely come away with a bad impression because Apple claims that the Mac platform is much easier and more intuitive than the PC, but only having one button on the standard mouse is like trying to tie a knot in a silk thread with skie gloves one for a PC user.
DeKa
May 27, 2003, 07:07 AM
Catt,
Just use CTRL and click - either way you've got to move a finger ;)
It annoyed me when I first moved to my new iMac but I got used to it.
I've even been known to use my Apple Pro Mouse with the Toshiba laptop on occasions :o
Guess what Windows 98 detects it as? "Apple Mouse" Glad to see MS supports it!
Derek.
Jimong5
May 27, 2003, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Catt
I must say that my experience of one button mousing on an iMac has been terrible.
I normally use a PC; a laptop with a cordless Logitech thumb driven trackball. When my mum got an iMac I loved it - until I tried to use the mouse! For the average PC user the mac shipping with a single button mouse is really annoying. To the extent that at times I got really frustrated because everything seemed to take three times as long.
Seeing as Apple is trying to get PC users to switch this one button fetish doesn't make much sense to me. If an average PC user (which I'm not) tried to use a display Mac in a store they will likely come away with a bad impression because Apple claims that the Mac platform is much easier and more intuitive than the PC, but only having one button on the standard mouse is like trying to tie a knot in a silk thread with skie gloves one for a PC user.
So you had to Buy that Logitech seperate... So why cant you do the same with The iMac? And why go from a cheap 1 button to a cheap 2 button, just to have a 2 button mouse to get rid of?
Catt
May 27, 2003, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by Jimong5
So you had to Buy that Logitech seperate... So why cant you do the same with The iMac? And why go from a cheap 1 button to a cheap 2 button, just to have a 2 button mouse to get rid of?
All I'm saying is I find it a bit odd why Apple doesn't supply its products with two-button mice because they are easier to use. I could use my logitech with the iMac but that wouldn't make much sense because I use the logitech with my laptop, I don't want to have to keep swapping between the two machines.
iJon
May 27, 2003, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Catt
All I'm saying is I find it a bit odd why Apple doesn't supply its products with two-button mice because they are easier to use. I could use my logitech with the iMac but that wouldn't make much sense because I use the logitech with my laptop, I don't want to have to keep swapping between the two machines.
then go to best buy and buy a new 2 button mouse for about 5 dollars if go on the right day. its not that big of a deal. people use the single button mouse, if they dont like it then go buy another one of their choice.
iJon
Snowy_River
May 27, 2003, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by Catt
... If an average PC user (which I'm not) tried to use a display Mac in a store they will likely come away with a bad impression because Apple claims that the Mac platform is much easier and more intuitive than the PC, but only having one button on the standard mouse is like trying to tie a knot in a silk thread with skie gloves one for a PC user.
As you say, you are not an average user. A great percentage of the people that I know that I would consider 'average users', who work under Windows, don't use the right click except when they have to (i.e. there is no other way to do what they want to do). I've even heard some Windows users say that the wish there was a better way to do things than to use contextual menus (to paraphrase, using the proper terminology). These are the people that Apple is targeting with the one button mouse.
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mrjamin
May 27, 2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by Rajj
I couldn?t agree more that the average user don?t know squat about a computer, but what about the pro users?
i have a 5 button M$ mouse - i hate using anything else. When you're using the Adobe apps, there's so many keystroke+click functions that assigning them to various mouse buttons is incredibly useful. My setup:
Left side click: Ctrl
Left button: default
Middle button: Double click (i.e. one of the middle button effectively doubeclicks, VERY useful)
Right click: Option+click
Right Side button: Alt
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