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Mar 1, 2007, 02:23 PM
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Category: Apple Hardware
Link: Apple to host special event at NAB (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20070301152359)
Description:: Apple has announced that it will be holding a special event at this year's NAB conference. In the past, Apple has introduce Final Cut Studio at NAB.

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AppleMan101
Mar 1, 2007, 03:05 PM
YAY!

New shiny things, woot!

LaDirection
Mar 1, 2007, 03:14 PM
Predictions:

Final Cut 6 with Final Touch HD Color Corection integration, real media management and RT 2K 10bit RGB 4:4:4

Octo Core Mac Pros with Blu-ray support and HDCP GPU

Revamped displays with lower price points, the new LCD technologies already incorporated by Dell, built-in iSight and HDCP.

sdhollman
Mar 1, 2007, 03:26 PM
OMG I have to wait that long for a new mac!

studiomusic
Mar 1, 2007, 03:31 PM
I went to this when FCP HD came out a few years agao... I'll be down there for this one... anyone know where the signup page is at apple.com?

longofest
Mar 1, 2007, 03:33 PM
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MacWorld is reporting that Apple has announced a special event (http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/03/01/nabevent/index.php) at NAB on Sunday, April 15.

If recent information (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/02/22/final-cut-pro-6-to-debut-at-nab/) proves to be reliable, Apple will use the event to introduce Final Cut Pro 6 and a high-end counterpart dubbed Final Cut Extreme. A recent Page 2 rumor (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/02/20/hd-mac-pros-at-nab/) also claimed that Mac Pros would be updated to support a high-definition optical format at NAB.

Previous Apple NAB events have brought the 17" MacBook Pro (http://www.macrumors.com/2006/04/24/apple-releases-17-macbook-pro/), Final Cut Studio (http://www.macrumors.com/2005/04/17/final-cut-pro-5-motion-2-soundtrack-pro-dvd-studio-pro-4-shake-4/), and Motion's original release (http://www.macrumors.com/2004/04/18/apple-nab-media-event-announcements/).

50548
Mar 1, 2007, 03:33 PM
If it's just to introduce a new FCP, I would say YAWNNNNNNN...BOOOOOORING...I want my 12" MBP!

Rocketman
Mar 1, 2007, 03:34 PM
From the recent archive:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=3389965&highlight=rocketman#post3389965

Next Generation Intel Platform (Santa Rosa) Tracking For May
Page 4 Post #86
Timing
I seem to have my ear to above average ground and many of my "predictions" have been pretty close.
So here we go . . . . .


Strong possibilities include:

MacPro Octo announced at NAB, shipping 7-07
http://www.macrumors.com/2007/02/20/hd-mac-pros-at-nab/
MPO bundles:
Adobe CS3
http://www.macrumors.com/2007/02/21/adobe-photoshop-creative-suite-3-on-march-27th/
FC Extreme
Logic Extreme / Audo apps
http://www.macrumors.com/2007/02/28/revamped-logic-on-the-way/
http://www.macrumors.com/2007/01/17/logic-8-thursday/

I am keeping an eye on myself :)

Rocketman

Rod Rod
Mar 1, 2007, 03:35 PM
Predictions:

Final Cut 6 with Final Touch HD Color Corection integration, real media management and RT 2K 10bit RGB 4:4:4

Octo Core Mac Pros with Blu-ray support and HDCP GPU

Revamped displays with lower price points, the new LCD technologies already incorporated by Dell, built-in iSight and HDCP.

1. Can't you do 10bit 4:4:4 2K in realtime today, with the appropriate I/O and superfast disk arrays? I believe so.

2. Blu-ray should be optional. Otherwise it's a similar situation to the PS3 where the technology is forced.

3. Built-in iSights? Please no. Ewwwwwww.

Here's a real prediction for the next Mac Pros: available Serial Attached SCSI (SAS).

Final Touch integration into the suite is plausible. But whether Shake is brought into the suite remains to be seen.
If it's just to introduce a new FCP, I would say YAWNNNNNNN...BOOOOOORING...I want my 12" MBP!
Yawn boring, huh? "Just to introduce a new FCP," eh? FCP and the suite are very important. Maybe it's nothing to you but it's everything for others. Thanks for reminding me of my 15-year-old cousin. :)

klaus
Mar 1, 2007, 03:38 PM
If it's just to introduce a new FCP, I would say YAWNNNNNNN...BOOOOOORING...I want my 12" MBP!

Apple doesn't exist for the sole purpose of pleasing you and just you my friend.. It's a pro conference, they will not be releasing consumer equipment. And yes, I don't consider such a small MBP to be anything they will advertise running FCP or Aperture on.

longofest
Mar 1, 2007, 03:38 PM
Final Touch integration into the suite is plausible. But whether Shake is brought into the suite remains to be seen.

Shake, in its current incarnation, is dead. Gonna have to wait until next year to get any new version of "Shake". So definitely don't bet on it being rolled into Final Cut Studio.

nazmac21
Mar 1, 2007, 03:39 PM
8 Core Mac Pro
New Displays
13 inch MacBook Pro
15 inch MacBook
Matte screens standard on the MacBook and MacBook Pro (glossy optional)
Final Cut Studio 6
Logic 8
Santa Rosa Platform
New iMac Design
Leopard

SkyBell
Mar 1, 2007, 03:41 PM
8 Core Mac Pro
New Displays
13 inch MacBook Pro
15 inch MacBook
Matte screens standard on the MacBook and MacBook Pro (glossy optional)
Final Cut Studio 6
Logic 8
Santa Rosa Platform
New iMac Design
Leopard

Yeah, in your dreams. I bet half of those won't happen in 2007 at all.

Peace
Mar 1, 2007, 03:43 PM
For these speculated products to be shown at NAB Leopard must be shown either before or at the same time.

Looks like we're going to get another "special event" prior to this one.

Maccus Aurelius
Mar 1, 2007, 03:43 PM
I love having the integrated iSight on my macbook, but in the displays? Pfffff get the hell outta here.

I can see a market for 13" macbook pros, but the likelihood of that happening is rather low I think. I say this, but I know in my heart if it was available I'd buy it.

As said already Blu-Ray is a bad idea to include as standard. I'd refuse to buy a Mac Pro if it came with Blu-Ray. Sony is the only one dumb enough to install B-R into their computers since they're trying to keep their format alive.

nazmac21
Mar 1, 2007, 03:43 PM
Yeah Right! In your dreams.:p

bigandy
Mar 1, 2007, 03:43 PM
I'd really love to see FCS 6.0. I'm happy with 5.1, but there's always room for an updated version :D

And I doubt 8 core macs. Really, is there a market for it? Not enough methinks. Unless it's a BTO option, and then it'll be so expensive that everyone will complain. :rolleyes:

mattscott306
Mar 1, 2007, 03:44 PM
Yeah, in your dreams. I bet half of those won't happen in 2007 at all.

It surely won't be leopard. ;)

Embed
Mar 1, 2007, 03:44 PM
LOGIC 8
PLEEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE

It needs a good update i will by a MBP if it's released
^^^^ guys hold me to that!
(i secretly want a mbp) shhhh

:apple:

Rod Rod
Mar 1, 2007, 03:47 PM
Shake, in its current incarnation, is dead. Gonna have to wait until next year to get any new version of "Shake". So definitely don't bet on it being rolled into Final Cut Studio.

I was thinking in terms of round-tripping such as we have today with Motion, LiveType and Soundtrack Pro.

mark88
Mar 1, 2007, 03:47 PM
Seems an awfully long way away.

Surely we will see something new mac related before then? this black hole of mac related announcements is really starting to drag, especially where Leopard is concerned.

bearbo
Mar 1, 2007, 03:52 PM
8 Core Mac Pro
New Displays
13 inch MacBook Pro
15 inch MacBook
Matte screens standard on the MacBook and MacBook Pro (glossy optional)
Final Cut Studio 6
Logic 8
Santa Rosa Platform
New iMac Design
Leopard

Yeah, in your dreams. I bet half of those won't happen in 2007 at all.

and i know which ones

milo
Mar 1, 2007, 03:57 PM
If it's just to introduce a new FCP, I would say YAWNNNNNNN...BOOOOOORING...I want my 12" MBP!

Uh...yeah. 'Cause every BROADCASTER's wishlist is topped by a laptop with a twelve inch screen. Riiiiiiiight.

:rolleyes:

nazmac21
Mar 1, 2007, 03:57 PM
Also:
LED-lit MacBooks, MacBook Pros, iMacs and Cinema Displays
Magnetic latch and easy user replaceable harddrive on the 15" and 17" MacBook Pros
Final Cut Extreme
10.4.9

Eraserhead
Mar 1, 2007, 03:58 PM
and i know which ones

Santa Rosa will be this year :p.

bedrock22
Mar 1, 2007, 03:58 PM
it sure would be nice to see a logic upgrade here. i remember reading somewhere that someone had asked a logic booth guy at NAMM if logic 8 would be released anytime soon and he responded "it will be soon, and it will be huge." now we didnt see an upgrade at NAMM, but if it really is coming soon, and needs OSX 5 to run, NAB seems like a good time to announce its release.

anyway, here's hoping.

ChrisA
Mar 1, 2007, 03:58 PM
If it's just to introduce a new FCP, I would say YAWNNNNNNN...BOOOOOORING...I want my 12" MBP!

What is the point of owning a 12", or any other size MBP if not to run software? Software is why people buy computers.

AvSRoCkCO1067
Mar 1, 2007, 03:59 PM
Also:
LED-lit MacBooks, MacBook Pros, iMacs and Cinema Displays
Magnetic latch and easy user replaceable harddrive on the 15" and 17" MacBook Pros
Final Cut Extreme
10.4.9

what are you on?

thejadedmonkey
Mar 1, 2007, 04:00 PM
What is the point of owning a 12", or any other size MBP if not to run software? Software is why people buy computers.

Because most software the "average" person uses, is not worth more then $300 (excluding Adobe & Macromedia)

artalliance
Mar 1, 2007, 04:01 PM
And let's repeat this again: It's the
National Association of B R O A D C A S T E R S
exhibit.

If any, only pro hardware will get introduced.

nazmac21
Mar 1, 2007, 04:02 PM
I just think all of these updates will come this year. Remember, Steve Jobs said 2007 is going to be a great year for the Mac. Anything is possible this year.

Peace
Mar 1, 2007, 04:06 PM
Here's what Apple's listed as showing at the NAB this year :


Product Offerings
Pro Audio - Audio Editing
Pro Audio - Audio Mastering
Pro Audio - Audio Post-Production
Pro Audio - Audio Processing and Effects
Pro Audio - Audio Production
Pro Audio - Audio Recording
Acquisition and Production - Video Capture Devices and Software
Acquisition and Production - Video Processing
Acquisition and Production - Video Production
Post Production - Editing and Special Effects
Post Production - Graphics and Animation
Post Production - Mastering and Duplication
Post Production - Music and Sound Libraries
Post Production - Subtitling and Closed Captioning
Management and Systems - Digital Asset Management and Storage
Management and Systems - Software/Applications/Middleware
Management and Systems - Television/Newsroom Automation Systems
Management and Systems - Video/Content Servers

Alpinism
Mar 1, 2007, 04:08 PM
8 core mac pro with blue ray burner for the FCExtreme(Debut) to go with the "Red One".

2.66 mac pro quad will be the standard base model.

FCS 6.0 debut.

bedrock22
Mar 1, 2007, 04:11 PM
Here's what Apple's listed as showing at the NAB this year :


Product Offerings
Pro Audio - Audio Editing
Pro Audio - Audio Mastering
Pro Audio - Audio Post-Production
Pro Audio - Audio Processing and Effects
Pro Audio - Audio Production
Pro Audio - Audio Recording
Acquisition and Production - Video Capture Devices and Software
Acquisition and Production - Video Processing
Acquisition and Production - Video Production
Post Production - Editing and Special Effects
Post Production - Graphics and Animation
Post Production - Mastering and Duplication
Post Production - Music and Sound Libraries
Post Production - Subtitling and Closed Captioning
Management and Systems - Digital Asset Management and Storage
Management and Systems - Software/Applications/Middleware
Management and Systems - Television/Newsroom Automation Systems
Management and Systems - Video/Content Servers

where did you get this information? do you have a link?

Wild-Bill
Mar 1, 2007, 04:14 PM
I can't believe we have to wait until April 15th to get updated Mac Pros. That stinks. :mad:

On the other hand, this may bode well for people expecting large tax refund checks? (I know, I'm reaching....)

Peace
Mar 1, 2007, 04:16 PM
where did you get this information? do you have a link?

Linky (https://nab2007.bdmetrics.com/portal/ViewCompany.aspx?id=2375623)

Rod Rod
Mar 1, 2007, 04:19 PM
8 core mac pro with blue ray burner for the FCExtreme(Debut) to go with the "Red One".

2.66 mac pro quad will be the standard base model.

FCS 6.0 debut.

Not to pick on you (because others have said the same thing) but it would be FCS 2.0, not 6.0. Final Cut Pro (FCP) would be 6.0.

The suite with FCP 4.5 was called Production Suite (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2004/aug/10psuite.html). The suite with FCP 5 is "Final Cut Suite."

FCS 2.0 (assuming they don't again change the name of the suite, and that all elements will go up a version number) will have Final Cut Pro 6, DVD Studio Pro 5, Motion 3, LiveType 3, Compressor 3 and Soundtrack Pro 2.

However I give you credit for saying "8 core" instead of "Octo." "Octo" is almost as annoying as "ATN." :)

gugy
Mar 1, 2007, 04:24 PM
Final cut studio and their apps for sure.

Maybe Octo-core Pro Mac new enclosure and new Cinema Displays too.
I wonder if Leopard comes before that. If not I think they will announce MacPro's but the shipping will be weeks later. I'm pretty sure Leopard will be here before the MacPro's.

We'll see.

Peel
Mar 1, 2007, 04:26 PM
Interesting bit of trivia from the NAB website regarding Apple's booth:

Languages Spoken:
English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Spanish, Yiddish

That's quite an array of specialists at one booth.

iW00t
Mar 1, 2007, 04:29 PM
LED backlit Macbook Pros mabey?!

Peace
Mar 1, 2007, 04:29 PM
Interesting bit of trivia from the NAB website regarding Apple's booth:

Languages Spoken:
English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Spanish, Yiddish

That's quite an array of specialists at one booth.

I believe it's the largest booth this year also.

Lotso stuff to show off imho ;)

macphisto
Mar 1, 2007, 04:31 PM
I reaaaaally hope that the mac pros come earlier and are not on tracking for that April 15 announcement, May shipment. I have been greenlighted for a new one and I don't want my boss to change his mind because I keep telling him updates are just around the corner.

Rocketman
Mar 1, 2007, 04:35 PM
However I give you credit for saying "8 core" instead of "Octo." "Octo" is almost as annoying as "ATN." :)

:)

zblaxberg
Mar 1, 2007, 04:42 PM
Could this be the 'big release'? Or does leopard have to come out before fcp6? Any ideas on mbp upgrades?

dbater
Mar 1, 2007, 04:42 PM
Final cut studio and their apps for sure.

Maybe Octo-core Pro Mac new enclosure and new Cinema Displays too.
I wonder if Leopard comes before that. If not I think they will announce MacPro's but the shipping will be weeks later. I'm pretty sure Leopard will be here before the MacPro's.

We'll see.


They may intro those as well but we won't know until Big Steve opens his mouth. Until then we will just have to make due with the machines that only a few months ago we thought were fantastic. :D

HailToTheVictor
Mar 1, 2007, 04:46 PM
But it's a Sunday

wmmk
Mar 1, 2007, 04:48 PM
we won't know until Big Steve opens his mouth.

yes, yes, yes. a great point! are you actually a debater? if you are, then jsw, mkrishnan, you, and I should have a huge macrumors debate!

photomaniac
Mar 1, 2007, 04:49 PM
NOW YOU'RE TALKING! :D

Predictions:

Final Cut 6 with Final Touch HD Color Corection integration, real media management and RT 2K 10bit RGB 4:4:4

Octo Core Mac Pros with Blu-ray support and HDCP GPU

Revamped displays with lower price points, the new LCD technologies already incorporated by Dell, built-in iSight and HDCP.

KindredMAC
Mar 1, 2007, 04:56 PM
My predictions:
Updated Quad Core Mac Pros w/ a Blu-Ray option being added to the store, but standard on highest end model (No Octo Cores yet)
Updated or lowered prices on Cinema Displays, possibly a larger display to be added to the mix.
New versions of Apple's Film Editing software.

Remember, with Apple.... Less is more.

AlBDamned
Mar 1, 2007, 05:02 PM
And let's repeat this again: It's the
National Association of B R O A D C A S T E R S
exhibit.

If any, only pro hardware will get introduced.

Yeah and let's not forget the Apple Special event (was it PhotoKina?) where people got very excited about new hardware only to see Aperture 1.5 released... That's more like the reality, not all this pipedream crap about new displays and MacBooks.

And, if Mac Pros are announced that day they'll need to be shipping that day. Dell is already offering Quad core intel chips, Apple has no excuse to wait any longer than they have already. I'd hope they'll be released sooner though as they're now officially over the average update release time according to the MacRumors Buyer's Guide (http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac_Pro).

A bona fide Apple Special Event in March would indicate something more substantial.

nazmac21
Mar 1, 2007, 05:03 PM
13" MacBook Pro:
2.16Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo
ATI Radeon X1400
1 Gigabyte of RAM
120 Gigabyte Hard Drive
Matte or Glossy Screen
Ships only with Leopard and Santa Rosa
$1799

15" MacBook:
2.0Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo
Intel GMA X3000
1 Gigabyte of RAM
120 Gigabyte Hard Drive
Glossy Screen
Ships only with Leopard and Santa Rosa
$1599

Rod Rod
Mar 1, 2007, 05:04 PM
Could this be the 'big release'? Or does leopard have to come out before fcp6? Any ideas on mbp upgrades?
FCP 4's minimum OS requirement was 10.2.8. FCP 5's minimum is 10.3.9. FCP 6 will likely run on 10.4.9.
But it's a Sunday
Apple has introduced stuff on weekend mornings at NAB. It wouldn't be unprecedented.

ThomasJefferson
Mar 1, 2007, 05:14 PM
The money is in the bank Steve.
Come and get it.
MacPro me.

Lord Nerdos
Mar 1, 2007, 05:16 PM
Wow! It's finally coming! Bring on the octo-cores so that I can go back to a normal life. It's really sad that a major part of my waking hours are devoted to waiting for this octo-core mac pro thingy.
Once it's finally released I'll have to find something new to wait for... ;) Apple PDA?:cool:
To my octo-core anticipating brothers and sisters - our time is coming, soon we shall be triumphant!:D

Rocketman
Mar 1, 2007, 05:47 PM
Software releases are near certain. I saw where Blu-Ray prices were recently decreased. That is the type of thing that motivates Apple to adopt something they have been talking up for YEARS.

If there is a hardware release it its more likely to be accessories for Mac Pro such as a radical video card, Blu-Ray, drive updates, raid, whatever.

As far as a MacBookPro, since the next steps are Santa Rosa and LCD and dieshrink, I suggest May at the earliest, probably June+.

CNBC Cramer recommended ATT stock today on iPhone exclusivity and triple play rationality.

Rocketman

8 core requires a new motherboard with stokley-seaburg (whatever). Hence the delay from 11-06 when the quad chips were available. OR is Apple really waiting for C2Q to do it? . . .

PodPacker
Mar 1, 2007, 06:11 PM
I wouldn't expect many updates. The only hardware Apple will unveil is the Mac Pro and possibly new displays.

I wouldn't expect to see upgraded iMacs, MacBooks, or Mac minis till late Q2 as this hardware will probably include the new Santa Rosa chipset which will dramatically improve video performance on these Macs.

MacBook Pros are a totally different animal altogether. They still haven't become as powerful as some PC Laptops, specifically the AlienWare laptops. Some may perceive these to be expensive toys and hardware overkill, but truth is they are great for video work. Especially with their slot loading, RAID capable HDDs. All available for a slightly lower price than the MacBook Pro.
I expect Apple to do something big with the MacBook Pro.
As for iPods, Christmas time. We, at PodPacker, can't wait that long, though. A true video iPod will be a boon for our site.

Lord Nerdos
Mar 1, 2007, 06:21 PM
[QUOTE=PodPacker;3404656]I wouldn't expect many updates. The only hardware Apple will unveil is the Mac Pro and possibly new displays.

That would be enough for me and my fellow merry band of octo-core devotees:D

Only 43 more days to go:p

bbyrdhouse
Mar 1, 2007, 06:26 PM
High end version of Fianl Cut ... Final Cut Extreme? I thought Final Cut was the high end with Final Cut Express being the low end and iMovie being the wanna be.

twoodcc
Mar 1, 2007, 06:41 PM
great news! but i was hoping that Leopard would be would be out before then.

anyways, looking forward to it!

puckhead193
Mar 1, 2007, 06:52 PM
Yay, more things to learn :rolleyes: lol

GanleyBurger
Mar 1, 2007, 06:54 PM
Please launch a...

17" MacBook Pro Laptop
Dual 3.0 Intel Core 2 Duo... at least (or a Quad chip:eek: )
2 gigs ram standard.
200 gig 7200rpm drive.
HD burner
new OSX

I'm dreaming... :rolleyes:

TheAnswer
Mar 1, 2007, 06:58 PM
But it's a Sunday

Doesn't matter....Final Cut Pro 4 was announced on a Sunday also.

shawnce
Mar 1, 2007, 07:17 PM
High end version of Fianl Cut ... Final Cut Extreme? I thought Final Cut was the high end with Final Cut Express being the low end and iMovie being the wanna be.

It is rumored to be a software and hardware solution... not just software.

Rocketman
Mar 1, 2007, 07:43 PM
For those of you who do not know "why Final Cut Extreme"? It is an application designed to compete with a system called Avid which is what movie makers use to make real shows in high definition. It is really expensive. Like $100,000 to $250,000 combined hardware and software.

It is rumored Apple will be making a ~$10,000 hardware and software solution that combined with another ~$20,000 in third party hardware will replace the Avid brand solution which costs as much as a cheap house in Southern Califorinia.

As for the wishers hoping for a Mac Book Pro upgrade. I for one hope they use iPod stytle HD's now to get internal RAID, C2Q chip(s) in the 17" version to get real desktop performance in a portable, and a special plug for external PCIe and/or eSATA as well as FW800.

I doubt Apple is ready to translate Fibrechannel to SOHO just yet. Wouldn't it be nice? If only a Powerbook had a "dock connector" for ultra high bandwidth external connectors.

I wish too much.

Rocketman

bommai
Mar 1, 2007, 08:15 PM
I love having the integrated iSight on my macbook, but in the displays? Pfffff get the hell outta here.

I can see a market for 13" macbook pros, but the likelihood of that happening is rather low I think. I say this, but I know in my heart if it was available I'd buy it.

As said already Blu-Ray is a bad idea to include as standard. I'd refuse to buy a Mac Pro if it came with Blu-Ray. Sony is the only one dumb enough to install B-R into their computers since they're trying to keep their format alive.

Are you anti bluray or something? I have a PS3 and love it for BD movies. The first DVD-R drives on the PowerMac were a $1000 add on. Do you remember those days? You can get a BD writer for $600-700 now. So, if Apple made it a $700 BTO, there is no problem. People that are using Final Cut Pro and want to make a high def disk can get the goodies.

SMM
Mar 1, 2007, 08:28 PM
I wonder if anyone might have a clue as to what the hardware component of FCS Extreme might be? I do recall last posts from last year (January?). There was a thread about a new video camera which had some unreal resolution. FCE was speculated to be able to support this. Then folk were computing the size of the screen it would take to use the technology. So, is this the rumored hardware. Or, is it data throughput? I am not sure how significant that would be. Afterall, anyone who has a serious, professional need for that, can do it already. Any ideas?

DMann
Mar 1, 2007, 08:42 PM
For these speculated products to be shown at NAB Leopard must be shown either before or at the same time.

Looks like we're going to get another "special event" prior to this one.

Looks like March 24 may be the big day - either by special event, or by release followed by a slew of special events to demonstrate new apps and their capabilities running on Leopard.

DMann
Mar 1, 2007, 08:47 PM
Blue-Ray drive standard on the Mac Pro.

This is almost a given, however, it wouldn't surprise me to see Apple offer a choice of either HD, Blu-Ray, or both as options ;)

DMann
Mar 1, 2007, 08:50 PM
it sure would be nice to see a logic upgrade here. i remember reading somewhere that someone had asked a logic booth guy at NAMM if logic 8 would be released anytime soon and he responded "it will be soon, and it will be huge." now we didnt see an upgrade at NAMM, but if it really is coming soon, and needs OSX 5 to run, NAB seems like a good time to announce its release.

anyway, here's hoping.

It's rumored that Logic 8 has been completely revamped, under a new name, which utilizes Leopard's core animation and graphics considerably. We might have to wait for Leopard's release before seeing it :rolleyes:

DMann
Mar 1, 2007, 08:57 PM
Yeah, in your dreams. I bet half of those won't happen in 2007 at all.
Why not?

8 Core Mac Pro, very doable
New Displays, more than likely
13 inch MacBook Pro, Look out for the "Thin"
15 inch MacBook, easily
Final Cut Studio 6, along with FCP Extreme
Logic 8, without a doubt
Santa Rosa Platform, a given
Leopard, so that we can enjoy FCP 6, Logic 8, and 8 Cores as soon as they are released:p

richmon22
Mar 1, 2007, 09:09 PM
my prediction is that motion and shake will combine, and i heard it will be phenominon!

and i like that idea!

exept i just bought shake:mad: and fcs

do you guys think they will have a cheep up grade for shake and fcp users?

cant wait for blue ray and possible hddvd
:apple: rich :apple:

AidenShaw
Mar 1, 2007, 09:32 PM
I doubt Apple is ready to translate Fibrechannel to SOHO just yet. Wouldn't it be nice? If only a Powerbook had a "dock connector" for ultra high bandwidth external connectors.

I really doubt that Apple will come out with a dock connector for Powerbooks.

On the other hand, it's so lame that there's no sort of docking station for *both* the MacBook and the MacBook Pro.

My Latitudes and ThinkPads are just one click to dock/undock, not
do the power adapter
do the GbE connector
do the mouse
do the keyboard
do the USB hub
do the DVI (oops, first find the mini-DVI to DVI dongle)
do the speakers
tidy up the mess of cables
figure out why the printer doesn't work (the other end of the cable to the USB hub detached when I last disconnected)
tidy up the cables again, since I messed them up trying to fix the printer

AvSRoCkCO1067
Mar 1, 2007, 09:54 PM
For these speculated products to be shown at NAB Leopard must be shown either before or at the same time.

Looks like we're going to get another "special event" prior to this one.

How do we know this? Won't they run on Tiger...?

bearbo
Mar 1, 2007, 10:10 PM
Santa Rosa will be this year :p.
yeah this year... say november? remember how long it took merom to get in MBPs? pf.
what are you on?
hahaha i know...
13" MacBook Pro:
2.16Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo
ATI Radeon X1400
1 Gigabyte of RAM
120 Gigabyte Hard Drive
Matte or Glossy Screen
Ships only with Leopard and Santa Rosa
$1799

15" MacBook:
2.0Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo
Intel GMA X3000
1 Gigabyte of RAM
120 Gigabyte Hard Drive
Glossy Screen
Ships only with Leopard and Santa Rosa
$1599
you mean by the end of the year?
Please launch a...

17" MacBook Pro Laptop
Dual 3.0 Intel Core 2 Duo... at least (or a Quad chip:eek: )
2 gigs ram standard.
200 gig 7200rpm drive.
HD burner
new OSX

I'm dreaming... :rolleyes:
that'd be a fire hazard.
Why not?

8 Core Mac Pro, very doable
New Displays, more than likely
13 inch MacBook Pro, Look out for the "Thin"
15 inch MacBook, easily
Final Cut Studio 6, along with FCP Extreme
Logic 8, without a doubt
Santa Rosa Platform, a given
Leopard, so that we can enjoy FCP 6, Logic 8, and 8 Cores as soon as they are released:p

those aren't coming anytime soon, if at all for the first two. Santa Rosa will eventually come, when is it coming is the big question.

iW00t
Mar 1, 2007, 10:13 PM
Blue-Ray drive standard on the Mac Pro.

No.

I don't like the idea of paying $1000 more for a Quad core workstation when the money spent on that useless Sony r00tkitted drive can be spent on real processors.

Multimedia
Mar 1, 2007, 10:19 PM
Glad we have a press event this year. This portends a more significant set of announcements than just another mobile Mac refresh. I think if the Dual Clovertown Mac Pro is not announced sooner, this will likely be the venu for its premiere along with Final Cut Studio 6 and the Extreme version of FCS for Movie and Television production houses.

Would love to have HD DVD options that include a universal drive that can read and write all formats. I think Samsung has one in the works don't they?

So now we have a T-Minus 45 Days and Counting timeframe - Finally.

Lord Nerdos
Mar 1, 2007, 10:27 PM
Glad we have a press event this year. This portends a more significant set of announcements than just another mobile Mac refresh. I think if the Dual Clovertown Mac Pro is not announced sooner, this will likely be the venu for its premiere along with Final Cut Studio 6 and the Extreme version of FCS for Movie and Television production houses.

Would love to have HD DVD options that include a universal drive that can read and write all formats. I think Samsung has one in the works don't they?

So now we have a T-Minus 45 Days and Counting timeframe -Finally.

Can anyone make a widget for this? :p

DMann
Mar 1, 2007, 10:34 PM
How do we know this? Won't they run on Tiger...?

Yes, they will run on Tiger, but only Leopard will allow them to take advantage of Core Animation, Core Graphics, and multithreading capabilities.

Mgkwho
Mar 1, 2007, 10:52 PM
ummmm.........


someone deleted my post before.


hrmpfh.

-=|Mgkwho

SiliconAddict
Mar 1, 2007, 10:56 PM
Still no Final Cut Express love?

Nicky G
Mar 1, 2007, 11:34 PM
I can't wait to be there! Vegas baby! NAB! Hopefully... it all comes together!

WOOOOT!!!

heheh... :D

I can't comment too much, as I am an Apple VAR/systems integrator specializing in the video & audio realms... But my hopes are up (not based on any inside information).

I don't think it's out of line to state my personal wish-list (based in reality):

FCStudio 2

Logic 8

Octo-Mac

Also, maybe?

Info on acquisition of Silicon Color/Final Touch

Info on acquisition of Proximity Group/Artbox

Info on future of Shake

Could it all mean... FINAL CUT EXTREEEEEEME!?!?!?!? (Or whatever)

And?

10.5/new Quicktime/Core Animation/collaboration via 10.5 server

RED camera support

Blu-ray (and/or HD-DVD?)

Displays

RAIDs

Xsan

gugy
Mar 1, 2007, 11:39 PM
I believe there's a strong chance of MacPro coming at NAB with new enclosures. BUT:

do we need to have Leopard here to take full advantage of the multi-core processors?
So that would mean Leopard is either coming before NAB or they will announce MacPro with shipping dates for after Leopard.

Another thing to look is if Adobe is going to release CS3 prior or during NAB.

Is very interesting. If not at NAB for sure at WWDC MacPro octo will be here.

Another thing to consider is MacBook Pro announcement at NAB without the need of Leopard. Then later at WWDC MacPro.

Cinema displays will come alongside MacPro and I am pretty positive with new enclosures.

Very exciting, time to save $ and look forward to put my G5 Quad on eBay.;)

LethalWolfe
Mar 1, 2007, 11:39 PM
Glad we have a press event this year.

Not quite sure what you mean as Apple has had a "pre-NAB" presser for a number of years now.


Lethal

Multimedia
Mar 1, 2007, 11:50 PM
Not quite sure what you mean as Apple has had a "pre-NAB" presser for a number of years now.I know. But not last year Lethal. They simply opened the booth Monday morning and threw out a press release to say we give you a 17" CD MacBook Pro with a FW800 port back from the missing FW800 in the 15" CD MBP we dumped onto the market in February without one. Oh and by the way, here's your Universal Binary FCS 5.1. Whoot! :eek: :rolleyes: :)

Tehy
Mar 2, 2007, 12:07 AM
Interesting... I hope they tell us more about Leopard :)

eluk
Mar 2, 2007, 01:27 AM
I'm hoping that Blu-Ray will be BTO with the Mac Pro as I'm not up to paying the extra.

iris_failsafe
Mar 2, 2007, 01:43 AM
Also waiting a new graphics card the Nvidia Quadro FX5500 with 1GB of memory... then we are talking

Peel
Mar 2, 2007, 02:26 AM
Would love to have HD DVD options that include a universal drive that can read and write all formats. I think Samsung has one in the works don't they?

Hitachi released a set-top universal drive at CES so a universal read/write can't be far behind

koobcamuk
Mar 2, 2007, 03:11 AM
Apple doesn't exist for the sole purpose of pleasing you and just you my friend.. It's a pro conference, they will not be releasing consumer equipment. And yes, I don't consider such a small MBP to be anything they will advertise running FCP or Aperture on.

Apple would be pleasing me and at least one other person I know too.

jaguarx
Mar 2, 2007, 03:36 AM
Personally I'm hoping for:
Mac Pro Octo, maybe with case redesign (not fussed on that),ATI R600 graphics, blueray/HDDVD BTO and hardware RAID would be nice.
Leopard.
New displays, pref LED backlighting.
It's not Apple but CS3 would be nice as well, that way I can hammer my credit card all at once and be done with it for a while. I'm just hoping the breakdown of software in the various CS3 packages now that Macromedia is on board are good. I need to buy Photoshop, Illustrator & Indesign and would like to get Flex, Flash & Acrobat.

mrthieme
Mar 2, 2007, 04:03 AM
My new expectation formula for events and keynotes. Add all expected products from MR up, take 1o% of that.

hvfsl
Mar 2, 2007, 06:21 AM
Of course the BluRay drive will be a BTO option. The superdrive was when it first came out, so I don't see this being any different.

Although I don't think they will have a HD-DVD drive as an option because it is pretty clear now that BluRay will win. BluRay currently has the most players in the market, they seem to be getting the most movies now and they have sorted out all the IQ problems they had in the past because of using MPEG2.

Plus seeing as BluRay will be the only format you can get Star Wars HD on, HD-DVD just doesn't stand a chance.

shikimo
Mar 2, 2007, 07:20 AM
For these speculated products to be shown at NAB Leopard must be shown either before or at the same time.

Looks like we're going to get another "special event" prior to this one.

This is the real elephant in the bushes: The logic of all the rumors hinges on Leopard, and the Leopard rumors are still far from clear. I would GUESS that Leopard would come first, as it's big enough for its own press, but it could come at the same time...and it's really unlikely to come afterwards, cuz the new toys at NAB will count on it to be at their most impressive.

And let's repeat this again: It's the
National Association of B R O A D C A S T E R S
exhibit.

If any, only pro hardware will get introduced.

Once upon a time there was an event called MACWorld, where not a single MAC-related product was released. AS IF Apple has been so rigid and predictable as to justify the tone of your post. Please.

Digitalclips
Mar 2, 2007, 08:05 AM
For these speculated products to be shown at NAB Leopard must be shown either before or at the same time.

Looks like we're going to get another "special event" prior to this one.

My exact thoughts (and no doubt many of you). Jobs will present Leopard himself for sure yet they need it in time for NAB one has to think and he won't do it there, it's not his MO. That seems to point to a 'Steve Special' prior to NAB.

Digitalclips
Mar 2, 2007, 08:09 AM
Personally I'm hoping for:
Mac Pro Octo, maybe with case redesign (not fussed on that),ATI R600 graphics, blueray/HDDVD BTO and hardware RAID would be nice.
Leopard.
New displays, pref LED backlighting.
It's not Apple but CS3 would be nice as well, that way I can hammer my credit card all at once and be done with it for a while..

I am with you 100% (don't forget FCPro X) - pick me one up too while you are at it please :)

syklee26
Mar 2, 2007, 09:15 AM
i haven't read all posts but im surprised no one said powerbook G5.

i think new Cinema Display might be on the way considering they just lowered the refurbish price of them.

sonarghost
Mar 2, 2007, 09:18 AM
Man I really, really hope they have Logic 8 up their sleeve!

chaosbunny
Mar 2, 2007, 09:18 AM
New ipod nano colours, YEAH!:rolleyes:

And if we are lucky, maybe even special 100 bucks leather cases for them!:rolleyes:

slffl
Mar 2, 2007, 09:23 AM
For the love of god please release a new 17" Macbook Pro! :D

gugy
Mar 2, 2007, 10:40 AM
Once upon a time there was an event called MACWorld, where not a single MAC-related product was released. AS IF Apple has been so rigid and predictable as to justify the tone of your post. Please.

True, but the iPhone is a consumer device and MWSF mostly is based on consumer needs.
NAB in other hand is a professional event. It doesn't make sense bring a consumer level product to such a place. (Final Cut xpress is a prosumer product)
If you are expecting that, then I am sorry to say you'll be disappoint.

NAB will focus on products for film/video professionals, so is very easy to predict Final Cut Studio apps, maybe Mac Pro's, Cinema Displays, etc.

50548
Mar 2, 2007, 10:53 AM
My exact thoughts (and no doubt many of you). Jobs will present Leopard himself for sure yet they need it in time for NAB one has to think and he won't do it there, it's not his MO. That seems to point to a 'Steve Special' prior to NAB.

Considering the list of bugs shown for Leopard at AI today, I don't think we'll see any traces of the new OS until June...but yeah, I still want my 12" MBP...:rolleyes:

gugy
Mar 2, 2007, 11:08 AM
Considering the list of bugs shown for Leopard at AI today, I don't think we'll see any traces of the new OS until June...but yeah, I still want my 12" MBP...:rolleyes:

I wonder then if MacPro's will be then announce at WWDC.
Somebody can correct me but I am pretty sure the octo-cores MacPro need Leopard to take full advantage of multi-processors.
In other hand I think the MBP doesn't need it, so it may make sense to see it at NAB alongside Final Cut Studio.

bigbossbmb
Mar 2, 2007, 11:08 AM
FCP 4's minimum OS requirement was 10.2.8. FCP 5's minimum is 10.3.9. FCP 6 will likely run on 10.4.9.


Final Cut Studio requires OS X 10.4.4 or later...

I give the next FCStudio package a 5% chance of running on Tiger, maybe less... It will need Leopard's new features to run. It is not unheard of. It is a pro app and they know that pro's will upgrade the OS just to run the software. It really isn't a big expense for them.

It will be all FCStudio and Octo Mac Pro's at this thing, anyone thinking there will be portables is delusional unless intel somehow releases Santa Rosa before May/June.

LethalWolfe
Mar 2, 2007, 11:18 AM
Final Cut Studio requires OS X 10.4.4 or later...

I give the next FCStudio package a 5% chance of running on Tiger, maybe less... It will need Leopard's new features to run. It is not unheard of. It is a pro app and they know that pro's will upgrade the OS just to run the software. It really isn't a big expense for them.


I really hate it when OS upgrades and big software upgrades go hand-in-hand. Is it an OS problem? Is it a Final Cut problem? If that's the case I see most pro's holding out until both programs have been out at least 6 months before testing the waters.


Lethal

abrooks
Mar 2, 2007, 11:26 AM
I really hate it when OS upgrades and big software upgrades go hand-in-hand. Is it an OS problem? Is it a Final Cut problem? If that's the case I see most pro's holding out until both programs have been out at least 6 months before testing the waters.


Lethal

Well it's the OS, Leopard is going include a lot of Core frameworks that will enhance software but only allow it to work on Leopard. For example Core animation will allow much easier and intuitive user interfaces. Core Audio and Core Data have been changed, receiving major enhancements in Leopard.

Multimedia
Mar 2, 2007, 12:05 PM
This is the real elephant in the bushes: The logic of all the rumors hinges on Leopard, and the Leopard rumors are still far from clear. I would GUESS that Leopard would come first, as it's big enough for its own press, but it could come at the same time...and it's really unlikely to come afterwards, cuz the new toys at NAB will count on it to be at their most impressive.It's not inconceivable for Apple to unveil beta of all the software as well as the 8 core Mac Pro with the promise to ship all of what they reveal at the April 15th event in May or June. Wouldn't be the first time they pre-announced product(s) before it was quite ready for shipping due to the timing of the trade show vs. their completing all the tweaks they feel they need to before cranking up the assembly lines.

My thoughts are not so much that what they show will be shipping immediately but that it will be shipping eventually - as in by sometime in June worst case. They might say "taking orders beginning today, shipping by end of May." or "Shipping when Leopard ships later this Spring." without saying a specific date. I think the Leopard shipping date announcement pitch event will not be at NAB but at San Francisco Moscone at some other date before or after NAB.

I don't think this event tells us much about when Leopard will ship or even when the Leopard event will happen. :( :confused:

Rod Rod
Mar 2, 2007, 12:24 PM
Final Cut Studio requires OS X 10.4.4 or later... Umm, yeah, but the question I was addressing was FCP. :)

(snip)...It is a pro app and they know that pro's will upgrade the OS just to run the software. It really isn't a big expense for them.
Pros aren't necessarily concerned about the expense of upgrading the OS (at maybe $129) or upgrading the SW (at maybe $300 or $500).

They're concerned about stability of the product in a production environment.

Only over-enthusiastic prosumers (or dedicated testers) will attempt using a dot-zero pro software suite on a dot-zero OS release. The dot-zero releases of FCP 3, 4 and 5 were unsuitable for production. Subsequent bugfix patches made those usable.

FCP 6 will run on 10.4.9 but without the bells and whistles that Leopard brings, if history is any guide.

macidiot
Mar 2, 2007, 03:19 PM
for the news tip.

macidiot
Mar 2, 2007, 03:22 PM
for the news tip.

Yeah, someone already posted this. Oh wait, it was me :P

ely
Mar 2, 2007, 05:00 PM
Apple sent out invitations to educators, claiming "many potential releases and announcements." Sadly, education is such a wide market, there's probably nothing we can read into :)