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nospleen
Jun 3, 2003, 11:46 AM
Hello, I am in the market for a new scanner. I need to scan around 500 pictures a day, up to 8x10 in size. I need something that autocrops and that has a loading tray. I need to know what you guys/gals would recommend. Also, do they have any that autosaves to a folder of my choosing? Any help would be greatly appreciated. As far as pricing, I am looking to spend 500-1000 max. Thanks!



Eniregnat
Jun 3, 2003, 12:45 PM
Wow, I think that your asking for a lot from a cheep piece of equipment. Autofeeder and 500 photos a day, thats nearly 183k photos a year. I don't think an inexpensive consumer scanner will hold up to that kind of abuse. I think your looking at starting around 2.5-3k for that kind of use. Don't forget you will also need space, and a lot of it, if you plan to save the files native.

Try here
http://techdepot.officedepot.com/category.asp?CatID=182&iid=194?AffID=11334

Find something that is simular to what you need and then look for an OSX compatible version. Then cruse eBay and see if you can pick one up at the price you afford.

We have used a networked Minolta copyer/scanner/printer for batched OCR. It saved the scans to a directory on a web based NAS. The Mac then processes, thins, resaves and then reads the documents off.

With my Mac, I was happy with a UMAX and Canon, though the Canon is slow. Nether one has a feeder or auto save.

(Well its a start. I'm sure some of the designers can help)

nospleen
Jun 3, 2003, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by Eniregnat
Wow, I think that your asking for a lot from a cheep piece of equipment. Autofeeder and 500 photos a day, thats nearly 183k photos a year. I don't think an inexpensive consumer scanner will hold up to that kind of abuse. I think your looking at starting around 2.5-3k for that kind of use. Don't forget you will also need space, and a lot of it, if you plan to save the files native.

Try here
http://techdepot.officedepot.com/category.asp?CatID=182&iid=194?AffID=11334

Find something that is simular to what you need and then look for an OSX compatible version. Then cruse eBay and see if you can pick one up at the price you afford.

We have used a networked Minolta copyer/scanner/printer for batched OCR. It saved the scans to a directory on a web based NAS. The Mac then processes, thins, resaves and then reads the documents off.

With my Mac, I was happy with a UMAX and Canon, though the Canon is slow. Nether one has a feeder or auto save.

(Well its a start. I'm sure some of the designers can help)

Remember, cheap to one might be expensive to another!:D I do not need one that is super fast or anything like that. I just would like the feeder and the files to import to a folder of my choosing. I am probably being unrealistic, but thats why I posted the question. Anyone else?

Eniregnat
Jun 3, 2003, 01:30 PM
I meant cheap in quality (plastics and drive mechnisims), not inexpensive.
What exactly do you want to be able to do?
What resolution and file format are you hoping for?
What features are musts and what features would be nice bonuses?

zarathustra
Jun 3, 2003, 02:09 PM
Try this. (http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductQuickSpec.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=32724&category=Scanners)

It took me 15 seconds to find it...

nospleen
Jun 3, 2003, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by zarathustra
Try this. (http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductQuickSpec.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=32724&category=Scanners)

It took me 15 seconds to find it...

It is not available anymore. I am able to do a search and find numerous scanners that will fit what I want to do. I am just trying to get recommendations from people who own them or have used them. So if you are implying that I need to do a search on the web for scanners, I have already. I just want recommendations.

photohead
Jun 3, 2003, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by zarathustra
Try this. (http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductQuickSpec.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=32724&category=Scanners)

It took me 15 seconds to find it...
I second this....I was just going to suggest it also...or...you can get the perfection 1680, and buy the auto sheet feeder for it...scanner is 800 and feeder is 500 but It is definatly worth it...I have the 1680 and its fast and very sharp edge to edge no sweet spot....check it out on the epson site.

N

nospleen
Jun 3, 2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Eniregnat
I meant cheap in quality (plastics and drive mechnisims), not inexpensive.
What exactly do you want to be able to do?
What resolution and file format are you hoping for?
What features are musts and what features would be nice bonuses?

Here is what I am looking to do. I just want to import pictures that are already printed, and not lose too much quality. I want it to look nice on a dvd slideshow. Do you have a recommendation on dpi? It would be great if it scanned negatives, but not essential. I do want something solidly built, but I will buy an extended warranty, so it is not a huge selling point.

nospleen
Jun 3, 2003, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by photohead
I second this....I was just going to suggest it also...or...you can get the perfection 1680, and buy the auto sheet feeder for it...scanner is 800 and feeder is 500 but It is definatly worth it...I have the 1680 and its fast and very sharp edge to edge no sweet spot....check it out on the epson site.

N

Ignore my stupidity here for a sec.:D If I buy the feeder, I can scan in lets say 50 photos, (or whatever the tray holds), then do I need to go in and save each photo? Or can I say, save all to my users/brandon/pictures?
Thanks for the help, I am getting ready to check their website again!

zarathustra
Jun 3, 2003, 09:51 PM
I am using the EPSON twain drivers with my Perfection 1660 and you can specify a default scan dump location, or in my case, it scans into Photoshop... I did not mean to ssound like a smart @ss with my previous post, sorry about that - if it's no longer available at any of the online retailers, maybe ebay has it.
PCConnection still has it in stock - Link (http://www.pcconnection.com/scripts/productdetail.asp?sku=205046&SourceID=k15505)

nospleen
Jun 3, 2003, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by zarathustra
I am using the EPSON twain drivers with my Perfection 1660 and you can specify a default scan dump location, or in my case, it scans into Photoshop... I did not mean to ssound like a smart @ss with my previous post, sorry about that - if it's no longer available at any of the online retailers, maybe ebay has it.
PCConnection still has it in stock - Link (http://www.pcconnection.com/scripts/productdetail.asp?sku=205046&SourceID=k15505)

No problem!:) I really appreciate your help. I am by no means a pro at computers, so along the way I kind of expect to annoy some people.:D

photohead
Jun 4, 2003, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by nospleen
Ignore my stupidity here for a sec.:D If I buy the feeder, I can scan in lets say 50 photos, (or whatever the tray holds), then do I need to go in and save each photo? Or can I say, save all to my users/brandon/pictures?
Thanks for the help, I am getting ready to check their website again!

Don't feel stupid....Yes you can save to a specific place....for me...I have scanning software called silverfast 6.0 and you can tell it which folder to place the saved files....you name the file...eg. File01 and it will name the consecutive files File02, File03 ...etc...I think <I'm not sure> the epson software has it built in...compatibility with OS X and the trans adapter is questionable...

N

zarathustra
Jun 4, 2003, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by photohead
I think <I'm not sure> the epson software has it built in...compatibility with OS X and the trans adapter is questionable...

N

For the longest time the Epson TWAIN drivers were questionable at best (alpha for OSX). But now they have the final, 5.75 out, and it works smooth, although a bit awkward. I was used to LinoTypeHELL and silverfast, and EPSON's interface is a bit, uhh, Windowsy?

nospleen
Jun 4, 2003, 08:55 AM
I think I am going to get the Epson. So far it seems to be what fits my needs and budget. Thanks again for everyones help!

nospleen
Jun 4, 2003, 09:01 AM
I found it for 347!! Not a bad deal at all, Epson (http://www.pagecomputers.com/cgi-bin/page/S0406927.html)

photohead
Jun 4, 2003, 12:32 PM
NOt a bad deal at all...one thing to remember....depending on what you are scanning....there is a thickness maximum...and if there is a jam...it will mess up your work flow...something to think about....good luck..
n:)

Kethoticus
Jun 4, 2003, 01:49 PM
Hey... as long as were on the subject, I've been thinking about getting a scanner, but have no idea what to look out for. E.g., why are some scanners $200 and others $2,000? Are the colors that much more accurate or is the resolution that much better? Is it about speed?

I'd like to get a scanner, but I wouldn't want to pay more than a few hundred dollars for it. And this is for occasional home use, not a business that thrives on millions of scans. So speed is not an issue (altho I'd prefer a firewire interface).

nospleen
Jun 4, 2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by photohead
NOt a bad deal at all...one thing to remember....depending on what you are scanning....there is a thickness maximum...and if there is a jam...it will mess up your work flow...something to think about....good luck..
n:)

I assume regular photos from photo albums will flow just fine, right?

photohead
Jun 4, 2003, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Kethoticus
Hey... as long as were on the subject, I've been thinking about getting a scanner, but have no idea what to look out for. E.g., why are some scanners $200 and others $2,000? Are the colors that much more accurate or is the resolution that much better? Is it about speed?

I'd like to get a scanner, but I wouldn't want to pay more than a few hundred dollars for it. And this is for occasional home use, not a business that thrives on millions of scans. So speed is not an issue (altho I'd prefer a firewire interface).

A couple of things justify the price differences of scanner prices...ie. Features, size, resolution, interface, color, software, etc. there are better technologies that are making consumer scanners cheeper and cheeper. What I sugest for you is...Epson 3200 (http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1217197614.1054761383@@@@&BV_EngineID=eadchgjdmdhfbfdmcfjgckidnf.0&cookies=no&oid=27766185) Very reasonable price, good resolution, tras adapter, compatible with great third party scanning software, or if thats too expensive there is a great scanner by cannon...30 ide?? or 40 ide...super thin very decent res. usb conection...not blazing but fast enough...the epson is a firewire connection like you wanted so that might be a better choice....from a photographers stand point the epson is a good economical consumer solution...as a consumer the canon is so flat and takes up so little space and its light...that the coolness factor and value factor out weighs the epson scanner....<$80 canon> <400 epson> it all depends on what you need to use if for ....give me more info and I can help you better....
N :)

photohead
Jun 4, 2003, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by nospleen
I assume regular photos from photo albums will flow just fine, right?

depends on how thick....my friend has the trans adapter for the 1680 and he says that normal 4x6 photos if not aligned correctly they jam....probably not enough of an issue not to buy it...but I think he said anything more then the thickness of card stock is pushing it..
N

Kethoticus
Jun 4, 2003, 10:42 PM
Thanks! That was more than I expected in terms of information. I will check those models out. (There's also a scanner review in the March or April issue of Macworld that I need to check out.)

Thanks again.

zarathustra
Jun 5, 2003, 12:07 PM
I have a simple consumer Epson 1660 Photo and love it! compared to other USB 1 scanners it is fast and I get nice, accurate colors, not the oversaturated, blurry stuff typical from low to midgrade scanners. would recommend it *****! And works with OSX even without the supplied software, just plug-n-play (albeit very limted funstionality).