CONFIRMED!! Xbox Live Vision Cam works natively with 10.4.9 [Archive]

lOUDsCREAMEr

Mar 17, 2007, 06:06 AM

For the sake of the whole mac community :p , brave me picked up a Xbox Live Vision Cam from a local ToysRUs (299HKD, around 39 US bucks or 45 maple dollars), to see if it really works with 10.4.9 without a hack/driver~~

the whole thing apparently comes with the cam itself (ofcoz), a useless Xbox Live headset & some sort of Xbox Live trial gaming membership card~~

AND YES, IT JUST WORKS!! :apple:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/150/424019084_d4c1e63e1d_o.jpg

thatz pretty much the quality you can expect~~

clevin

Mar 17, 2007, 08:08 AM

whats the resolution?

fistful

Mar 17, 2007, 08:14 AM

whats the resolution?

"VGA 640H x 480V video at 30 frames per second and still photos at 1.3 mega-pixels."

lOUDsCREAMEr

Mar 17, 2007, 08:30 AM

the quality is alot better when i turn on the light & manually adjusted the focus ring~~

Jasonbot

Mar 17, 2007, 11:31 AM

Well if ur not going to use the "useless" xbox live membership I wouldn't mind taking it off your hands for you:D

Mavimao

Mar 17, 2007, 12:46 PM

Hey, that's not so bad! I got myself an eyetoy not too long ago. It works fine with macam, but maybe I'll look into the xbox live cam soon. Could you post more pics under different lighting situations?

clevin

Mar 17, 2007, 01:12 PM

the quality is alot better when i turn on the light & manually adjusted the focus ring~~

consider its price tag, its a pretty good deal.

Multimedia

Mar 17, 2007, 01:15 PM

USB2? I think you assumed we know how it connects. :confused:

clevin

Mar 17, 2007, 01:28 PM

USB2? I think you assumed we know how it connects. :confused:

yes, USB2
http://www.cnet.co.uk/i/c/nws/gamegear/gamegear1.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Live_Vision

phidauex

Mar 17, 2007, 02:45 PM

Wow, it even looks kind of 'mac-y'. I guess this is one time when Microsoft trying to emulate macs works in our favor. :)

For 40$, this is going to be a handy option for all those people who didn't want to pay 300$ for an iSight on ebay. :)

What are the details on the headset? Sure it is useless?

peace,
sam

Multimedia

Mar 17, 2007, 02:48 PM

Yeah I'm running out to ToysRUs right now to buy one. Thanks.

Makosuke

Mar 17, 2007, 04:57 PM

Ooh... I despise MS products and the XBox reflexively, but I'm cheap and that looks like a sweet deal (and based on precident, MS probably loses money on it if you don't sign up for XBox live).

But do I take the "useless headset" comments to mean that the camera has no sound input and the headset doesn't work with 10.4.9? That'd add another purchase if you wanted to use it for iChat.

zap2

Mar 17, 2007, 08:34 PM

Awesome....I'll pick on up soon, for 40 bucks for a camera for Xbox 360 (one day) and my Mac(now), very much worth 40 dollars

Zorkon

Mar 17, 2007, 08:40 PM

For 40$, this is going to be a handy option for all those people who didn't want to pay 300$ for an iSight on ebay. :)

Just in case some folks missed it (although I imagine the majority of readers here are aware of this), the latest OS X update (10.4.9) includes support for USB video cameras in iChat. So I imagine that more than just the XBox Live camera will work.

From the 10.4.9 release notes (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304821):

iChat, iCal, and iSync

* Resolves an issue in which iCal reminders may appear off to the side of the screen.
* Resolves an issues in which some events added to particular dates may not display correctly.
* Event notes are now synced between iCal and Nokia N70 phones.
* Adds iSync support for more devices.
* Includes iChat support for USB Video Class webcams.

Maxwell Smart

Mar 17, 2007, 09:08 PM

This will be great for people who don't want to shell out the insane eBay costs for a used iSight and still want a quality cam. Plus it looks like it actually has "the mac look"

nitynate

Mar 17, 2007, 10:07 PM

Digg front page news.

:)

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"A guy reporting"

lOUDsCREAMEr

Mar 17, 2007, 10:38 PM

Digg front page news.

:)

Irony, Submitted to digg by: http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6703/picture2or2.png
"A guy reporting"

:D

B. McKechnie

Mar 17, 2007, 11:53 PM

Nothing new! Have been using the Vision Cam for a couple of months (with 10.4.8). Excellent with Skype and is a pretty sweet deal.

-Brian

sohaness

Mar 18, 2007, 12:06 AM

does it have a bult in mic?

steve.

lOUDsCREAMEr

Mar 18, 2007, 12:21 AM

does it have a bult in mic?

steve.

No

Eidorian

Mar 18, 2007, 12:22 AM

This is very interesting. I might have to go pick one up for my Mac mini. :D

macgpscs1

Mar 18, 2007, 12:13 PM

bored911

Mar 18, 2007, 02:11 PM

I plug mine in but nothing happens. I'm sure there is something i have to do. Any ideas?

MacRumorUser

Mar 18, 2007, 02:14 PM

I plug mine in but nothing happens. I'm sure there is something i have to do. Any ideas?

your live camera or your eyetoy camera ? And do you have 10.4.9 ?

bored911

Mar 18, 2007, 02:15 PM

your live camera or your eyetoy camera ? And do you have 10.4.9 ?

Live, 10.4.9. Intel CD macbook

bored911

Mar 18, 2007, 03:44 PM

what app do i use?? someone?

blackketter

Mar 18, 2007, 05:53 PM

Tested the Logitech QuickCam Fusion and Ultra Vision on both an Intel MacBook Pro and PPC iMac and both worked beautifully with 10.4.9, where nothing worked with 10.4.8 and look terrific.

So, I suspect that the XBox Live camera will work on the PPC iMac as well.

:apple: :)

Nightkrawler

Mar 18, 2007, 06:25 PM

Do they only work in ichat?
Or can you use the cam in other apps (iMovie, Photobooth :p) as well.

inkhead

Mar 18, 2007, 07:14 PM

The resolution IS NOT 640X480, that's the interpulated resolution that it produces. The true resolution is half of that.

Just like most $30 webcams. Not to mention the lenses on these things might have well been made with frost paper

magicRob

Mar 18, 2007, 07:26 PM

I would think the 640x480 is right... the 1.3mpx is the interpolated bit :)

640x480 = 307,200 pixels...

lopresmb

Mar 18, 2007, 07:44 PM

Do they only work in ichat?
Or can you use the cam in other apps (iMovie, Photobooth :p) as well.

works with ichat, skype, photobooth and quicktime, but not imovie, as it is looking for that streaming DV firewire camera.

magicRob

Mar 19, 2007, 12:43 AM

I got one. Works perfectly, apart from having to set the focus :) Nothing to install, just plug in and away you go.

Tried it with iChat, Skype, Delicious Library (barcode scanning), YouTube's instant capture thingo... will try more later...

Multimedia

Mar 19, 2007, 12:47 AM

works with ichat, skype, photobooth and quicktime, but not imovie, as it is looking for that streaming DV firewire camera.For now. But I bet iMovie HD 7 with Leopard will see it fine.

scmacdaddy

Mar 19, 2007, 01:39 AM

can i get photobooth for my ppc g4 powerbook?

IanC

Mar 19, 2007, 11:34 AM

Sweet, my Vision Camera is pretty much unused with my 360 (impulse buy, might use it more if an eyetoy play style game comes out) so this is great news.

Jasonbot

Mar 19, 2007, 12:03 PM

can i get photobooth for my ppc g4 powerbook?

Yes, just cmd-c it off another mac that has it installed althouugh the legality of this is debatable.

N10248

Mar 19, 2007, 12:15 PM

It works great for me on my imac g5, only thing thats a dissapointment is that its 100% USB2 so it wont work on my old Graphite Powermac G4 with its USB 1 ports

oh well

Mavimao

Mar 19, 2007, 02:56 PM

Out of curiosity, just tried plugging in my PS2 EyeToy, and it didn't work.

I have an iMac G5 running 10.4.9

There's a possibility that USB webcams may still not work on PowerPC Macs - the USB kernel extensions have been updated in the Intel version of 10.4.9 but not the PPC version.

Can anyone confirm whether or not they now have a USB webcam working with 10.4.9 on a PowerPC Mac and/or Intel Macs?

lOUDsCREAMEr, what's your machine?

The eyetoy does work, but you have to use the Macam (http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/) driver in order for the mac to recognize it. Remember, 10.4.9 does not recognize EVERY USB webcam. Since 4.3, mac's were able to recognize UVC compliant webcams natively. The only thing 4.9 does differently is let you use these webcams with ichat. FYI, UVC is a new driver and there are only a handful of webcams that are compliant with this standard.

magicRob

Mar 19, 2007, 06:23 PM

Ok... after more playing last night I'm convinced this is the best value camera around, especially if you already own an XBox 360 :)

Anyone tried this on Panther? Just wondering if it supports USB cameras "out of the box"...

lOUDsCREAMEr

Mar 19, 2007, 07:01 PM

fistful

Mar 19, 2007, 07:13 PM

Looks like your thread found it's way onto tuaw (http://www.tuaw.com/2007/03/18/10-4-9-adds-usb-camera-support-for-ichat-xbox-camera-works/).

vniow

Mar 20, 2007, 12:57 AM

ZOMG, it works!

I have to use a phone adapter I've had for awhile for Skype as a mic but it works. :D

70521

jourtor

Mar 20, 2007, 11:16 AM

I want to use my Live Vision with iMovie, is this possible?

rhpenguin

Mar 20, 2007, 04:44 PM

Sold! This is a great thing for Hackintosh folks!

bored911

Mar 20, 2007, 06:15 PM

mine still doesn't work. it won't regonize a second vido source. any suggestions?

mr.barracudie

Apr 9, 2007, 02:36 AM

hey everyone can you use any webcam on xbox live???

slffl

Apr 11, 2007, 01:28 PM

Oh NICE! I've been on the fence about getting the Vision cam. And now that I can use it with my macs, and Apple isn't making stand-alone isights anymore, it's a no brainer!

twoodcc

Apr 11, 2007, 02:28 PM

the only problem is no mic :(

DesignVHL

Apr 17, 2007, 11:58 AM

hey guys - i'm in a dilemma! I need to find an affordable (no more than $125) web cam to use as a security camera that will work with the EvoCam software on my G5 Dual. According to the EvoCam website, the software will work with any quicktime compatible camera. I suspect that someone is breaking into my house. We are leaving this weekend and I need to setup something reliable before I leave.

Does anyone here know if any of the follow cams discussed: Vision cam, Logitech QuickCam Fusion and Ultra Vision will focus in on someone about 10-15 feet away? I'm going to point it at my front door to see if it would work for security. Could someone test this for me before I go out and buy? I need to be sure that the picture is clear enough to see who's breaking into my house!

thanks for your help.

-Valerie

efoto

Apr 19, 2007, 02:53 PM

Valerie,
I think you could verify that someone is breaking into your residence from 10 to 15 feet away, however I'm not the least bit convinced you'd make any kind of positive identification. Most, if not all, of these web cams are manually focused or the focus is adjusted through the software (IE if it's really bad the computer will attempt to clean it up, but only within the limits of the normal image), I don't believe there is a web cam that is motion-focusing....although it would be quite cool :rolleyes:

hanaya

May 1, 2007, 12:36 PM

Mavimao

May 1, 2007, 02:09 PM

After finding this thread, I picked up an xbox live vision, and it doesn't work!

I plug it in and try to use macam, and it says Status: No Camera!

After seeing all these posts of "I plugged it in and it worked!" I don't get why it's not working for me, and when i look at the shots people posted, it says "My Video Camera" at the top. What program is that?

First of all, you have to use 10.4.9 in order for it to work. Everything below 10.4.8 won't work.

And the program people are testing with is ichat. Try that.

hanaya

May 1, 2007, 02:30 PM

And the program people are testing with is ichat. Try that.

Wooo, it works with iChat!

Now, when I open up a video chat in iChat, it kills the music in iTunes. Does anyone know anything about that?

Mavimao

May 1, 2007, 03:09 PM

Wooo, it works with iChat!

Now, when I open up a video chat in iChat, it kills the music in iTunes. Does anyone know anything about that?

...so you can talk with people without them hearing your iTunes music blaring in their ears....

But if you want that, I think there's a preference in iChat to disable that. but be warned, the music they hear will be really loud.

stekerrod

May 1, 2007, 03:11 PM

cool, cheers for that......just letting anyone know it works with aMsn as well as skype etc, dnt think anyone has pointed that out so thought id let everyone know.....now theres a point for buyin it!

Mavimao

May 1, 2007, 03:47 PM

I hope the Playstation Eye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_Eye) is UVC complient. It may look ugly, but it seems like one sweet piece of engineering.

lcxtr

Jul 2, 2007, 08:13 PM

i have an ibook with 10.4.10, and ichat doesn't recognize the xbox live camera. Is there some driver or something like that i need to download?

granniegeek

Jul 24, 2007, 04:21 PM

Is ichat free to use with AIM? When I first logged into ichat it talks about a free trial. If i do not sign up for mac.com and use AIM ...will it cost money. Any luck using ichat with other services. I just got the xbox camera and it works with my ibook G4 with 10.4.10. Thanks.

granniegeek

Jul 24, 2007, 04:28 PM

I did not have to download anything. It just came up when I plugged it in and opened ichat. I do not have any of the 3 types of accounts so have not actually used it to see anyone but myself...I did not have to restart my ibook, but maybe that would help. Did you get it going yet?

masse

Jul 31, 2007, 12:40 PM

Great. Doesn't ****ing work at all with my PB G4.

Could 4.10 be messing it up?

kuebby

Jul 31, 2007, 04:26 PM

This will be great when the new PS Eye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Eye) comes out later this year. The new PS Eye has a multi-directional voice tracking and (supposedly) a higher resolution camera (2MP?). I don't even mind the design.

Edit: Totally missed Mavimao's post. PS Eye still looks cool.

aswitcher

Sep 6, 2007, 05:22 AM

Great. Doesn't ****ing work at all with my PB G4.

Could 4.10 be messing it up?

Did you get it working?

SHIVA

Sep 10, 2007, 09:18 AM

hi everybody,

i have problems with the connection of the xbox vision cam and my G4 powermac - 10.4.10.
the system profiler detects the xbox usb cam, but opening ichat or macam or skype or whatever it says: no camera found !
is it because of my new installed 10.4.10 or is it the usb on my mac or do i need any software to patch it?
what is wrong?
PLEASE !!!

SHIVA

Sep 10, 2007, 11:04 AM

ok! now i found some good help from the apple forum: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1112327&tstart=0

it says:
I have tested it on my MacBook Pro with it's USB 2.0 and it works. (10.4.10)
It does not work on my G4/1Ghz Dual with only USB 1.1 ports. (10.4.10)

so i just ordered a usb2 pci card to finaly connect my xbox live cam to my mac.
i would let you know in a few days if that was the problem and it got solved.

i hope so!

The Stig

Sep 10, 2007, 01:18 PM

Sounds good! I'm looking forward to it!

The Stig

jhsfosho

Sep 10, 2007, 01:58 PM

very cool! Good find.
I might have to buy one of these for my parents, then use it on my 360 sometimes.

SHIVA

Sep 12, 2007, 08:05 PM

good news everybody ... just got my usb2 pci card (20 euro) ... after plug & play (i love macintosh for that) the xbox vision cam works perfectly with quicktime, skype, yahoo messenger, ichat and my favorite: mercury messenger.

i tried all kinds of messenger combinations, but my daughter uses MSN messenger on a windows pc and i will stick to mercury messenger!

finally after 2 years i am able to video chat with my daughter!

thank you all for your help and god bless steve jobs and bill gates! :D

reddrag0n

Oct 2, 2007, 12:32 AM

Well, i have some bad news regarding this cam. Yes it does work with USB 2.0 and OS 10.4.9+ (mine is 10.4.10).
I have a USB 2.0 card with an NEC chipset, but each time i boot my mac, i have to unplug the cam, then re-plug it back in in order to get any program to see that it's there, even Apple System Profiler.
Any idea why it's doing this?

jasko

Oct 2, 2007, 01:31 AM

Is there a way I can use it if I already have the built in camera in my iMac?

I'd like to use it with photo booth.....

mickeymouse

Dec 28, 2007, 08:02 PM

I plugged it in and it worked on intel mac mini, with leopard 10.5.1 it works on ichat, and latest skype, it does not work on msn for mac but does on amsn.

You will need a usb mic as it does not have one built in the cam.
I am using an old usb webcam (stripped and put into other case) the mac does not see the cam just the mic, so am using that, if I switch to windows on parallels it see the old webcam but, I tell it not to use it, just use the mic. windows also sees the xbox live cam but no driver for it, if you tell it to search for driver it will goto internet and micro$oft for driver file and, install it, (you can't get it yourself from M$) all works, on msn and skype both in windows and on mac, it also works in windows with bootcamp, it may not work with vista.
the xbox live cam comes with 1 months subs to xbox live, a headset, and cam.
xbox cam spec's.
VGA 640Hx480V video resolution at 30fps (frames per second) and still photos at 1.3 megapixels.

isight spec's:
VGA 640Hx480V Video resolution at 30fps (frames per second) built in mic.

so you can pay up to 150 uk pounds for isight or 24-50 uk pounds for a Xbox live cam, which would you go for?

Fuzzbear

Feb 9, 2008, 11:22 AM

Is there something specific you have to do to get the Xbox Live camera working? I have a buddy with a new Macbook Pro, and he wanted to see if it would work... He said he couldnt get any picture from it in Leopard.

DistantThunder

Aug 25, 2008, 09:10 AM

I purchased one of these, and had trouble getting it working. I have OS 10.4.11, installed on an Intel Mac Pro.

Two things I discovered: First, the camera would NOT work on a USB hub. I had to plug it in to the front of the CPU tower. Second, I had to open iChat's preferences and click the Video tab, after which point the camera would be recognized. (However, this would not work if the camera was first connected to the wrong USB port. In that case, I had to connect it to the right USB port, totally restart iChat, and go into preferences again, at which point it would start working.)

On another note, the shareware program iGlasses greatly enhances the image quality. So also does dimming any bright light.

Applepi

Aug 25, 2008, 09:16 AM

Picked one of these up a few months ago, and am having no problems whatsoever on 10.5. Plugged it right in and was able to use it on iChat and Skype with exceptional visual quality. It's a great and very affordable alternative to the iSight.

born2win413

Sep 2, 2008, 05:15 PM

Would this work with my sister's iBook G4 with the latest update of Tiger?

Also, how would iChat work if the XBox Live Vision Cam doesn't have a microphone? I would like to be able to webcam talk to my sister and not having to type...

Thanks...

I really appreciate it.

moondog

Sep 6, 2008, 04:58 PM

I'm using a ppc G4 Powerbook, so the XBox camera won't work for me. I found this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aGent-V3-2-0MP-CCD-webcam-iSight-for-PC-Apple-MAC_W0QQitemZ230288005878QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item230288005878&_trkparms=72%3A12|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14)on eBay, which says it works with USB 1.1 and looks to be pretty good. Has anybody tried one, and if so how was it for you?

liketom

Sep 29, 2008, 07:33 AM

i have 2 xbox live 30 day thingys and a game codes

first 2 members who pipes up gets em

2 x Xbox Cam's for £40 BTW ;)

sunaami

Jan 7, 2009, 03:39 PM

What is the difference between XBOX 360 and Playstation 3? I am wondering what is the difference XBOX 360 and Playstation 3. In addition, are they going to addition blue-ray technology to the xbox 360?

leishan

Jan 7, 2009, 04:06 PM

Skull King

Apr 19, 2009, 01:52 AM

OK, so I'm stuck on this.

I have the X360 cam, and I've plugged it in, and it does nothing; shows no response and nothing happens.

I have a Power Mac G4, and I'm runnin' OS X 10.4.11.

I've looked into that Macam site and listed in the drivers, it show that it doesn't support the Xlive cam.

I'm at a loss as how to make it work on my mac.

Had some generic webcam, I don't remember the brand, and plugged it in as well and it too showed no response.

But when I go to Apple>About This Mac>More Info>USB, it shows that my cam is plugged in. It reads the information of the cam and recognizes that it's attached, but for some reason I can't get it to activate on iChat or anything.

Objectivist-C

Apr 20, 2009, 03:27 AM

Have you installed 3rd party drivers? Try removing them. Also, have you tried iChat > Video > Video Preview, or is it greyed out?

homerunbetty

Oct 4, 2009, 08:47 PM

I have a MacBook, running 10.5.8, 4GB 1067 MHz DDR 3. I just bought the XBox 360 Live to use as a webcam. I am trying to use it at a live feed on Ustream to showcase the litter of pups we just had.

When I log onto Ustream, it pulls up the installed webcam on my MacBook instead of the XBox Live webcam.

Can someone help me???? I am at my wits end! :eek: I bought a Logitech Orbit AF webcam, which isn't MAC compatible. Now I bought the XBox Live webcam and I can't get it to work online!

HELP!!!!