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pknz
Apr 16, 2007, 05:18 PM
The Loius Vuitton Cup began! (sort of)

Yacht racing was scheduled to start on Monday 16th of April, however there wasn't enough wind on the courses. I had a feeling that might happen and was dissapointed.

Anyway, there are 11 challengers fighting it out in two round robins of match racing, which finds the semi finalists and ultimately the winner of the Louis Vuitton Cup who will challenge the previous America's Cup winner Alinghi for the America's Cup.

The challengers are
BMW Oracle Racing (USA)
+39 Challenge (ITA)
Team Shosholoza (SA)
Emirates Team New Zealand (NZ)
Luna Rossa Challenge (ITA)
Areva Challenge (FRA)
Desafîo Espanõl 2007 (ESP)
Mascalzone Latino (ITA)
United Team Germany (GER)
China Team (CHN)


Does anyone else have an interest in it or even know that its taking place?

Official Site (http://www.americascup.com/en/)

aloofman
Apr 16, 2007, 07:07 PM
It got a lot more press here when the race was being run off San Diego. Now that it's far away, not so much.

Also, in the U.S., we noticed it more when we won every time. Now that we don't? Meh. :rolleyes:

iSaint
Apr 16, 2007, 08:33 PM
I try to follow it. It's a fascination, wish it was a hobby. I wish I had a sailboat! Thanks for the update, I forgot it was underway.

quagmire
Apr 16, 2007, 08:35 PM
Is OLN covering it again like they did last time?

Lord Blackadder
Apr 16, 2007, 09:35 PM
I watched it back in the 80s when I was a little shaver...since then I've missed it. I haven't been sailing in over a year either, our 16' Wayfarer has been banished to dry land for a bit.

juanm
Apr 17, 2007, 01:27 AM
I start working there today (if there's wind, of course :( )

pknz
Apr 17, 2007, 04:40 AM
I start working there today (if there's wind, of course :( )

What is your job?

At the moment I am hearing theres very light wind on the courses again ~3kts. :(

juanm
Apr 17, 2007, 06:55 AM
Sorry, it's tomorrow. The journalist arrived today, and we'll start tomorrow. :D

Photographer :rolleyes:

pknz
Apr 17, 2007, 08:02 AM
Sorry, it's tomorrow. The journalist arrived today, and we'll start tomorrow. :D

Photographer :rolleyes:

Oh nice job. I haven't managed to find any nice widescreen ETNZ wallpaper, so my Mac isn't fully in the spirit of the event.

Low wind again over the courses and the Flight 3 races have been postponed:mad: I dont think there will be racing for some time if at all today.

Must catch some sleep.

Counterfit
Apr 17, 2007, 05:44 PM
They shoulda held it off Newport this year. Plenty of wind this week. :rolleyes:



But really, bring it back home! (and I DON'T mean Sandy Eggo).

Don't panic
Apr 17, 2007, 06:08 PM
They shoulda held it off Newport this year. Plenty of wind this week. :rolleyes:



But really, bring it back home! (and I DON'T mean Sandy Eggo).


gotta win it first!

and, although they are a good team, i think the favorites are still Alinghi (swiss!!!!!) to defend it or (less) New Zealand and Luna Rossa to bring it home (theirs).
i'd like to see some live TV coverage (in the US)

quagmire
Apr 17, 2007, 06:33 PM
If BMW Oracle wins, it would go to SF since they're based there. What is with only one US team? Last time it was like 2-3 US teams. With BMW Oracle being one and Oneworld the other. There might of been a third. I agree with the more TV coverage of it. OLN( or Versus I think now) did it last time. Why aren't they doing it again!

Counterfit
Apr 17, 2007, 09:24 PM
Why aren't they doing it again!

Because Comcast sucks. They killed TechTV, and now they're killing OLN. I can't believe I'm actually somewhat grateful to Fox for not completely destroying Speedvision.


Also, why is a Swiss team one of the favorites?

quagmire
Apr 17, 2007, 09:46 PM
I will be pissed off if ESPN doesn't cover the America's Cup this time around. They did last time. They better do it again. Sailing( IMHO) is the best sport. It is actually interesting to me at least. Maybe history will repeat itself in a way. We won the America's Cup originally in Europe( Britain). Maybe we will win it again in Europe this time around.

pknz
Apr 18, 2007, 07:47 AM
To those of you that don't have coverage, you aren't missing much yet. Third day straight of race postponements.
:mad:

aloofman
Apr 18, 2007, 10:47 AM
Also, why is a Swiss team one of the favorites?

Well, one Swiss team is the defending champs, after all.

juanm
Apr 18, 2007, 06:56 PM
Yep, no wind today. We could see the boats waiting from the shore... and coming back to harbor.

Tomorrow I'm on the photographers boat, so I really really hope there will be something more interesting to shoot than just a boat floating around... :rolleyes:

According to the forecast, the weather should remain stable until saturday or maybe even sunday. Tomorrow's when the media start to get mad...

Anyway... I'm going to bed. Wake me up if there's wind or a Mac Mini announcement. :D

juanm
Apr 19, 2007, 07:50 PM
Fourth day in a row! :rolleyes:

Well, I get paid by the day, so for me in a certain way it's the same, but I'd really prefer to be able to get my job done... :(

pknz
Apr 20, 2007, 03:51 AM
Well it doesn't look too good at the moment in Valencia for the fifth day straight. Roughly 1.5kts on the courses. Still theres time for it to improve over the day.

Just thought I'd let you guys know that Virtual Skipper 5 - America's Cup has been released (its a yachting game), sadly its Windows only but for you bootcampers out there. Check it out

http://www.virtualskipper-game.com/en/

pknz
Apr 20, 2007, 06:01 AM
I return with a link to the demo of VSK 5
http://www.virtualskipper-game.com/en/news/index.php?id=9

Also, the Louis Vuitton schedule has changed they are going to attempt to start at the beginning again, ie Flight 1 and 2 today,weather permitting.

thesnowman16
Apr 20, 2007, 06:19 AM
I find it a real kick in the ass that they didn't hold it here again because of "Bad wind" however how many races have we seen so far............NONE! Thats right! Almost a week in and not a single race because of bad wind, we didn't go a full week without racing. So I think whoever made the decision to take it over there should be shot! :mad:

Not that it matters, if there is no racing we will win by defult because we have the most points at the moment (Due to the bonis points carried over from the acts leading up to the Louis Vuitton cup).

However I'm conferdent we will have the cup back (Both cups) in New Zealand. We have been 4 years without it and it's time we got it back! :cool:

thesnowman16
Apr 20, 2007, 06:22 AM
gotta win it first!

and, although they are a good team, i think the favorites are still Alinghi (swiss!!!!!) to defend it or (less) New Zealand and Luna Rossa to bring it home (theirs).
i'd like to see some live TV coverage (in the US)

Err I think you will actauly find that New Zealand are the favs, after how we went in the acts, thrashing everyone..


Edit: I think I may have misread your post, but I still stand by new zealand being the favs, not to take the America's cup, but atleast the Louis Veitton. It's too early to tell who will take the REAL cup, but I would think that Alinghi would be tough to beat especaly after there proformance in the acts.

pknz
Apr 20, 2007, 06:42 AM
Im seeing 8kts:eek:

Don't panic
Apr 20, 2007, 10:04 AM
first races and first upset!
I find it a real kick in the ass that they didn't hold it here again because of "Bad wind" ... ...So I think whoever made the decision to take it over there should be shot! :mad:
the wind had absolutely nothing to do with it.
it was alinghi's decision/right, so obviously they wouldn't race it in NZ. why would they want to favour their main rival? it would have been idiotic.
besides from a marketing/economic point of view, bringing it to europe was a no-brainer.

However I'm conferdent we will have the cup back (Both cups) in New Zealand. We have been 4 years without it and it's time we got it back! :cool:

Err I think you will actauly find that New Zealand are the favs, after how we went in the acts, thrashing everyone..

..uops! didn't trash ML today :D


Edit: I think I may have misread your post, but I still stand by new zealand being the favs, not to take the America's cup, but atleast the Louis Veitton. It's too early to tell who will take the REAL cup, but I would think that Alinghi would be tough to beat especaly after there proformance in the acts.
yes, i had said that alinghi are favourite for the america's cup, which i think is the consensus, but i agree that NZ were the pre-race favs for the vuitton cup (with LR and oracle close behind).
however, after today's race, the cup might be more interesting than it looked, especially with low wind conditions

jamesmcd
Apr 20, 2007, 06:36 PM
What a great night of sport for New Zealand. Thrashed by the Dingo-Hunters and beaten in Spain.

Bugger.

thesnowman16
Apr 21, 2007, 08:08 AM
terable night for us. lost the sailing, cricket, rugby, basketball and netball.

however it was the sailing that hurt the most. that was a great race and i think the outcome reflected the race well.

i don't think we were prepared for how hard the race would be and seriously under estemated the oponent. we did not deserve to win!

As for the cricket...well...um...I um...I have to go now...

juanm
Apr 21, 2007, 04:49 PM
I haven't managed to find any nice widescreen ETNZ wallpaper, so my Mac isn't fully in the spirit of the event.


The wind was scarce today, and although they didn't race (5 days off out of 6!) some boats were playing around. The NZ team was one of those, so I could get some pictures of them and of the Desafío Español

What size did you say your screen was? :D

pknz
Apr 22, 2007, 04:43 AM
The wind was scarce today, and although they didn't race (5 days off out of 6!) some boats were playing around. The NZ team was one of those, so I could get some pictures of them and of the Desafío Español

What size did you say your screen was? :D

1680x1050, would be awesome if have some.

Looks good for racing today, 6-7kts so far.

Jasonbot
Apr 22, 2007, 03:23 PM
There was a funny advert about team Shosholoza on local tv. Basically just a "cup" of coffee with an american flag on it being stirred for about 30 seconds. After this a voice over comes with, "Will team shosholoza stir the cup again this year?" (or somethig like that)

I thought it was pretty meaningful!

Don't panic
Apr 24, 2007, 09:12 AM
with today's upset of lunarossa by shosholoza, oracle appears to be in the driver's seat but we still have to see all the big matches.
and it appears to be that the fight for the 4th semifinal spot is quite open too.
very fluid, very nice.

unfortunately i can't find any place to watch it in the US, nor to decently follow it live on the web.
the official web site 'tracker' is pathetic.
only text and very little of it (i am not going to pay 40$ for their upgraded tracker). Any suggestion on where to follow?

pknz
Apr 24, 2007, 06:31 PM
with today's upset of lunarossa by shosholoza, oracle appears to be in the driver's seat but we still have to see all the big matches.
and it appears to be that the fight for the 4th semifinal spot is quite open too.
very fluid, very nice.

unfortunately i can't find any place to watch it in the US, nor to decently follow it live on the web.
the official web site 'tracker' is pathetic.
only text and very little of it (i am not going to pay 40$ for their upgraded tracker). Any suggestion on where to follow?

Yes the free tracker is pretty poor.

However, the upgraded one Americas Cup Anywhere (http://www.americascupanywhere.com/) is handled by an external party and by all accounts looks very good from the ads, I have no real experience with it however.

Don't panic
Apr 25, 2007, 08:24 AM
Yes the free tracker is pretty poor.

However, the upgraded one Americas Cup Anywhere (http://www.americascupanywhere.com/) is handled by an external party and by all accounts looks very good from the ads, I have no real experience with it however.

do you have good coverage in NZ?
i'm hoping that they at least will be showing from the semi's on.
is there any NZ site that has good (free) live coverage? like a newspaper's site.
so far the best i have found is eurosport
http://www.eurosport.com/sailing/america-s-cup/2007/livefullpage.shtml
combined with the official one

pknz
May 11, 2007, 02:09 AM
do you have good coverage in NZ?
i'm hoping that they at least will be showing from the semi's on.
is there any NZ site that has good (free) live coverage? like a newspaper's site.
so far the best i have found is eurosport
http://www.eurosport.com/sailing/america-s-cup/2007/livefullpage.shtml
combined with the official one

TV coverage has been good. I don't know of any free sites with good coverage.

Good to see Team NZ win the round robins. Great win against Oracle in the last flight.

juanm
May 11, 2007, 02:24 AM
Did you see I sent you a PM? ;)

pknz
May 11, 2007, 02:57 AM
Did you see I sent you a PM? ;)

Now I have..:p

jamesmcd
May 11, 2007, 07:33 AM
Team New Zealand is going to murder the skipper-thieving swiss (once we get through to the actual America's Cup...)

I used to live there (ch), so I'm allowed to say bad things about them. :D

ChucklesAC07
May 13, 2007, 02:37 PM
Hi all. Here's a few URLs to help you follow the Louis Vuitton Cup and America's Cup:

Cupinfo.com (an LVC/AC dedicated information website, full of graphics and tech info, not affiliated with any of the teams)

2007AC.com (Has the longest-running America's Cup online Sailing Forums, begun at QuokkaSailing in 1999, and continuing after Quokka bit the dust. Full of insider and expert posts and opinions. OLN (Versus) TV worked with this site during the 2003 events.)

Versus begins full coverage of the LVC/AC events starting tomorrow, Monday, May 14th, with live coverage, and two replays daily.

RedTomato
May 13, 2007, 03:01 PM
I go sailing a couple of times a year with a deaf team. Quite nice, we sail out of Southampton on a lovely 60foot sailboat, potter about near the Isle of Wight, sleep aboard, have a natter, wave arms around and a pint somewhere, sail back, and that's it really.

I don't really give a toss about the America's Cup, so I shouldn't be posting here really :)

Don't panic
May 14, 2007, 07:49 PM
Hi all. Here's a few URLs to help you follow the Louis Vuitton Cup and America's Cup:

Cupinfo.com (an LVC/AC dedicated information website, full of graphics and tech info, not affiliated with any of the teams)

2007AC.com (Has the longest-running America's Cup online Sailing Forums, begun at QuokkaSailing in 1999, and continuing after Quokka bit the dust. Full of insider and expert posts and opinions. OLN (Versus) TV worked with this site during the 2003 events.)

Versus begins full coverage of the LVC/AC events starting tomorrow, Monday, May 14th, with live coverage, and two replays daily.

thanks.

interesting first day.
i guess TNZ will go through in a breeze ;) , but the other semi could be close. Luna rossa in 9.
check this (http://www.americascup.com/fr/misc/video_display.php?urlvideo=flash/multimedia/videos/2007/05/070514_sfb_r1&fileimg=/multimedia/images/img_traitees/2007/05/bmw_luna_d1_pict_2col.jpg)

Don't panic
May 18, 2007, 09:33 AM
another surprisingly dominating performance by Luna Rossa and Oracle is down 3-1 (and it could have easily been 4-0).
I expected a closer series.
TNZ as expected are just training against desafio.
it's shaping up to be LR-TNZ for the final

Xtremehkr
May 18, 2007, 06:16 PM
The Swiss didn't buy NZs team again?

pknz
May 19, 2007, 06:10 PM
another surprisingly dominating performance by Luna Rossa and Oracle is down 3-1 (and it could have easily been 4-0).
I expected a closer series.
TNZ as expected are just training against desafio.
it's shaping up to be LR-TNZ for the final

Well 4-1 to both Luna Rossa and Team New Zealand. I am quite surprised how Oracle is being dealt to.

Counterfit
May 20, 2007, 05:01 AM
*mumbles something to the effect of Newport >> San Diego*

Don't panic
May 20, 2007, 10:04 AM
:D so much for my predictions!
Oracle was totally owned by Luna Rossa in this series, and Desafio is still hanging on by the fingernails against TNZ.

Luna Rossa looks like the boat to beat right now in the challenger field.
the LV final will be interesting.

i wonder if Alinghi is still superior as shown in the earlier Acts.

I think it's the first time in the history of the cup that there will be no american boat in the AC or LV finals.

TheFreshPrince
May 20, 2007, 08:57 PM
I'm in Japan where there is absolutely NO footage at all of Louis Vuitton and America's cup racing so I payed the small fee for "Live Sailing" and haven't looked back. I was so glad when I found out it is Mac compatible. :)

I play the live audio commentary from the official AC site and watch the racing live too in 3D graphics like the ones you see on TV. All the info like wind speed, advantage lines, velocity etc etc is provided too. You can move the cameras around however you like. I really recommend it for America's Cup lovers who don't have any access to TV footage.

Markusa
May 26, 2007, 07:47 PM
I hate to flame on this subject, but anyone seriously interested in America's Cup should be looking to get pissed off and contact people that are involved in fielding America's team(s)... and definitely sending letters to US Sailing and the USSFoundation http://www.ussailing.org/ussf/ . This year's single entry in the America's Cup race, Team BMW Oracle http://bmworacleracing.com , was really a prime representation of the lack of character that has over- run so much of the United States in the past two decades. Speaking as a former public school educator - someone who is ashamed to have a president that is surely not as smart as most of my neighbors - and as an avid sailing enthusiast... I can't understand why, with regard to the oldest sporting trophy, we are not outraged at the performance (or lack of) that has undergone our participation in seeking this important international reflection of our country.

A brief look at the crew of this year's US entry will reveal a ship full of foreigners... mostly Australian's (the defenders and modern choke holders of the cup). See the following to view USA's crew members:

http://www.americascup.com/en/americascup/teams/index.php?idContent=13821

Only the fat-cat Afterguard are American's. Instead of waiting until too late to make Chris Dickson walk the plank the US should have sought a crew of America's to recapture the longest held US trophy. This approach to American pride would have found us placing ads to hire Germans to fight Hitler. How can you even respect the idea of recapturing America's Cup when the opposition fights the battle for you? I am not a bigot or a racist… unless believing that in terms of a competition where teams represent a country, team-members ought to be from that country or have some direct connection to it in terms of their heritage.

It is a sad day... and has been for some time in the United States. As a teacher in our nation's schools I struggled over the past two decades to resist the melting away of our children's character in the face of a society that cares too little and understands even less about the battle still facing us in the world. Our country is course to become the Rome of history books in 3000 AD.

I hope people will contact the USSF and make a plea for making our next opportunity at The Cup less about how much we can spend and more about how much pride we can rebuild into the effort to make this again a reflection of the character of the United States. I believe an effort to make the America’s Cup a mission to recapture pride in America, with our own people fighting the battle, and our heritage as a nation on the line, would promote widespread interest and support from a nation looking for a light on the horizon.

Shame on us for our efforts in this year’s Cup and for those that supported such an effort. :mad:

pknz
May 26, 2007, 08:08 PM
I hate to flame on this subject, but anyone seriously interested in America's Cup should be looking to get pissed off and contact people that are involved in fielding America's team(s)... and definitely sending letters to US Sailing and the USSFoundation http://www.ussailing.org/ussf/ . This year's single entry in the America's Cup race, Team BMW Oracle http://bmworacleracing.com , was really a prime representation of the lack of character that has over- run so much of the United States in the past two decades. Speaking as a former public school educator - someone who is ashamed to have a president that is surely not as smart as most of my neighbors - and as an avid sailing enthusiast... I can't understand why, with regard to the oldest sporting trophy, we are not outraged at the performance (or lack of) that has undergone our participation in seeking this important international reflection of our country.

A brief look at the crew of this year's US entry will reveal a ship full of foreigners... mostly Australian's (the defenders and modern choke holders of the cup). See the following to view USA's crew members:

http://www.americascup.com/en/americascup/teams/index.php?idContent=13821

Only the fat-cat Afterguard are American's. Instead of waiting until too late to make Chris Dickson walk the plank the US should have sought a crew of America's to recapture the longest held US trophy. This approach to American pride would have found us placing ads to hire Germans to fight Hitler. How can you even respect the idea of recapturing America's Cup when the opposition fights the battle for you? I am not a bigot or a racist… unless believing that in terms of a competition where teams represent a country, team-members ought to be from that country or have some direct connection to it in terms of their heritage.

It is a sad day... and has been for some time in the United States. As a teacher in our nation's schools I struggled over the past two decades to resist the melting away of our children's character in the face of a society that cares too little and understands even less about the battle still facing us in the world. Our country is course to become the Rome of history books in 3000 AD.

I hope people will contact the USSF and make a plea for making our next opportunity at The Cup less about how much we can spend and more about how much pride we can rebuild into the effort to make this again a reflection of the character of the United States. I believe an effort to make the America’s Cup a mission to recapture pride in America, with our own people fighting the battle, and our heritage as a nation on the line, would promote widespread interest and support from a nation looking for a light on the horizon.

Shame on us for our efforts in this year’s Cup and for those that supported such an effort. :mad:

Sorry to knock your little rant there, but I think you'll find most of the Oracle BMW Racing crew are actually New Zealanders.

Those extra two stars denotes an Australian flag.

Bit ironic.

Counterfit
May 27, 2007, 02:34 AM
I should have thought of that, as I was at the NY Yacht Club in Newport on Monday. Granted, it was only a few minutes as we were switching out one of those conference call phones, but I was still there!

Don't panic
May 28, 2007, 09:55 PM
mostly Australian's (the defenders and modern choke holders of the cup).

i certainly hope that in your work as a "public educator" you bothered to actually make sure you had at least a vague idea of what you were talking about other than some jingoist rant.

not only, as pointed out, the "australian's" are actually mostly new zealanders, but team australia are NOT the defenders, nor they have any sort of hold on the cup.
in fact, they are not even participating in this edition!

The defenders are swiss, their crew is, like every other crew, international and includes several americans.

and if you think that pride counts more than money in the modern america's cup, i am afraid that you are hopelessly delusional.

Oracle didn't lose because they had a bunch of spineless mercenaries, they lost because they matched up with a surprisingly far superior boat in luna rossa (an italian boat, with a crew that includes several american, helmed by an australian and with a brazilian tactician).

or do you suppose the "italian mercenaries" were better motivated by the good food?

aloofman
May 29, 2007, 10:43 AM
I hate to flame on this subject, but anyone seriously interested in America's Cup should be looking to get pissed off and contact people that are involved in fielding America's team(s)... and definitely sending letters to US Sailing and the USSFoundation http://www.ussailing.org/ussf/ . This year's single entry in the America's Cup race, Team BMW Oracle http://bmworacleracing.com , was really a prime representation of the lack of character that has over- run so much of the United States in the past two decades. Speaking as a former public school educator - someone who is ashamed to have a president that is surely not as smart as most of my neighbors - and as an avid sailing enthusiast... I can't understand why, with regard to the oldest sporting trophy, we are not outraged at the performance (or lack of) that has undergone our participation in seeking this important international reflection of our country.

A brief look at the crew of this year's US entry will reveal a ship full of foreigners... mostly Australian's (the defenders and modern choke holders of the cup). See the following to view USA's crew members:

http://www.americascup.com/en/americascup/teams/index.php?idContent=13821

Only the fat-cat Afterguard are American's. Instead of waiting until too late to make Chris Dickson walk the plank the US should have sought a crew of America's to recapture the longest held US trophy. This approach to American pride would have found us placing ads to hire Germans to fight Hitler. How can you even respect the idea of recapturing America's Cup when the opposition fights the battle for you? I am not a bigot or a racist… unless believing that in terms of a competition where teams represent a country, team-members ought to be from that country or have some direct connection to it in terms of their heritage.

It is a sad day... and has been for some time in the United States. As a teacher in our nation's schools I struggled over the past two decades to resist the melting away of our children's character in the face of a society that cares too little and understands even less about the battle still facing us in the world. Our country is course to become the Rome of history books in 3000 AD.

I hope people will contact the USSF and make a plea for making our next opportunity at The Cup less about how much we can spend and more about how much pride we can rebuild into the effort to make this again a reflection of the character of the United States. I believe an effort to make the America’s Cup a mission to recapture pride in America, with our own people fighting the battle, and our heritage as a nation on the line, would promote widespread interest and support from a nation looking for a light on the horizon.

Shame on us for our efforts in this year’s Cup and for those that supported such an effort. :mad:

First of all, if you think the America's Cup is "important" in the grand scheme of things, especially in regards to our relations with the rest of the world, then you're delusional. It's a sailing competition. A bunch of millionaires and billionaires -- who can easily have a prettier trophy made than the Cup itself -- race for the right to brag to their rich friends about their latest conquest.

Sure, sailing is fun, but most Americans don't participate in it. In fact, most people in most countries don't participate in it. That doesn't make it a bad sport, but it does mean that you can't attach much global importance to it. In most countries they obsess far more over the next regional soccer tournament (even if it's years away) than a sailing race.

While I too am disappointed in how our educational standards have declined and that our president doesn't read books, I don't see what that has to do with the America's Cup at all. We didn't stop raising kids to sail, since 99.9% of us never were to begin with. If you're going to be depressed about U.S. sports prowess, how about the fact that even with professional players we can't win in international basketball or baseball anymore? (Sports that we invented, unlike sailing.) It can't be a matter of national pride if most Americans don't know it's happening.

And finally, here's how I'm sure that your concerns are overblown: we don't currently hold the America's Cup, and in fact haven't in quite a while. And yet it's still called that. And I haven't heard of anyone wanting to change the name.

satty
Jun 3, 2007, 04:10 PM
Looks like Team New Zealand has the upper hand in the LVC finale now.

With the delta growing bigger and bigger the Italians need a smaller miracle to win that one.

Don't panic
Jun 4, 2007, 08:47 AM
Looks like Team New Zealand has the upper hand in the LVC finale now.

With the delta growing bigger and bigger the Italians need a smaller miracle to win that one.


yeah. i think they are done.
i was hoping in tight 9 races series, but a sweep seems more likely at this point.
hopefully the finals will be closer.

pknz
Jun 6, 2007, 12:49 AM
Rather surprised how TNZ has got throught so far without a loss.

Perhaps 5-0 tonight?

Don't panic
Jun 6, 2007, 12:39 PM
Rather surprised how TNZ has got throught so far without a loss.

Perhaps 5-0 tonight?

5-0. total domination from the kiwis.

kind of disappointing though, i would have hoped for a more entertaining series.

hopefully the finals will go to the 9th. :)

satty
Jun 7, 2007, 01:44 AM
It looks like the change to the main sail after the second race did the trick.
The last race was close though.

I hope it will be a closer AC compared to the last one.


I move to New Zealand today... :D

weldon
Jun 7, 2007, 02:24 AM
we don't currently hold the America's Cup, and in fact haven't in quite a while. And yet it's still called that. And I haven't heard of anyone wanting to change the name.
That's because it's not named for our country - the prize (cup) is named for the first boat to win it, which was christened "America."

Looks like there might be a real challenge in the America's Cup this year. Team NZ looks like they might actually have a chance against Alinghi.

pknz
Jun 25, 2007, 03:35 PM
Well the America's Cup has begun, after two races its 1-1.

Alinghi may have a slight edge over New Zealand having watched the races.

pknz
Jun 26, 2007, 07:26 AM
Decided to stay up and watch tonights race live, apparently under 10kts in Valencia at the moment, which could give NZ an advatage.

Going to need a bit of sugar to keep me awake.

the Helix
Jun 26, 2007, 10:03 AM
Decided to stay up and watch tonights race live, apparently under 10kts in Valencia at the moment, which could give NZ an advatage.

Going to need a bit of sugar to keep me awake.

Well, we (team USA) still haven't gotten it back in almost 20 years! Perhaps we should rename the cup.

Le Big Mac
Jun 26, 2007, 10:44 AM
Well, we (team USA) still haven't gotten it back in almost 20 years! Perhaps we should rename the cup.


Did the name of the yacht that won the first cup change?

the Helix
Jun 26, 2007, 11:03 AM
Did the name of the yacht that won the first cup change?

No.no.no! I meant that we should perhaps change the name to something like the "New Zealand Cup" instead of the "America's Cup" since NZ has kept the bloody thing for almost two decades now!

Ah, the horror! the horror!
;)

pknz
Jun 26, 2007, 06:26 PM
No.no.no! I meant that we should perhaps change the name to something like the "New Zealand Cup" instead of the "America's Cup" since NZ has kept the bloody thing for almost two decades now!

Ah, the horror! the horror!
;)

Well we don't have it at the moment.

Last nights race was absolutely awesome, glad I waited didn't go to bed even though it was delayed by about 2 hours. NZ Winning by 25 seconds to now lead 2-1.

If I recall, the lead changed something like 5 times across the race.

Will_reed
Jun 26, 2007, 10:24 PM
I still think Alinghi can win this thing ETNZ just got lucky at the last leg of the race yesterday.

spjonesi
Jun 27, 2007, 07:20 AM
All, just saw that this was up here and would let all know that I am in Valencia, Spain for the summer and the port area is nice. I don't know how well it compares to other cities to have hosted the event, but I know that it is very different than what it looked like even a year ago.

While I'm at it, I'm not much of a sailing fan. So I don't have a clue who looks good or anything. I guess we'll see.

jonesi

Will_reed
Jun 28, 2007, 05:02 AM
I hear Russell Coutts is going with Oracle for the next cup.