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Stevez0r
Apr 19, 2007, 10:35 AM
I just started playing WoW and the first 5 levels were a breeze. Now that I'm in Goldshire I learn about have skills and what not. My question is will the Brady Guide (WoW: Burning Crusade) help me on World of Warcraft game? The question is can I use the Burning Crusade guide for World of Warcraft?



miniConvert
Apr 19, 2007, 10:39 AM
To be honest I find that Google is your best friend for World of Warcraft. I especially like Goblin Workshop, but I always search via Google as it's better that way :D Just Google "wow (whatever)" and you should find plenty of information :)

I did buy the Atlas, which is pretty handy for quick access to general maps, but I don't use it that much these days.

Edit: Congrats on level 5!

SilentPanda
Apr 19, 2007, 10:47 AM
Don't buy the guides. Not the World of Warcraft one or the World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade one. It's an MMORPG. Ask people in the game. Or ask here. The information in those guides tend to get outdated since the game evolves. Check out wowwiki.com for a lot of info.

It seems like you're curious about tradeskills. Here is the low-down on them.

There are two kinds of tradeskills, primary and secondary. You can learn all of the secondary tradeskills but only two of the primary ones. At any time you can unlearn a primary one to learn a new primary one.

Secondary tradeskills currently include First Aid, Fishing, and Cooking. Almost everybody uses First Aid at some point, many use cooking once you get it higher in level, and not that many people currently Fish due to the fact that it's boring.

All the other tradeskills are primary ones. Mining, skinning, and herbalism are considered "gathering professions" by the general populus simply because they are the tradeskills with which you "gather" items from the world. These tend to be the more profitable ones overall because they are raw resources. The other tradeskills are leatherworking, blacksmithing, alchemy, enchanting, tailoring, and jewelcrafting. Typical combinations that people pick are the following although you are free to pick whatever combination you desire.

Leatherworking & Skinning
Blacksmithing & Mining
Alchemy & Herbalism
Enchanting & Tailoring
Jewelcrafting & Mining

For all but the Enchanting & Tailoring combo, the gathering primary skill is used to facilitate the leveling of the crafting primary skill. Enchanting and tailoring are commonly used together as people will disenchant their tailored items to enchant other things. You are free to pick any combinations you want though. If you want to do skinning and jewelcrafting or tailoring and leatherworking you are free to do so.

If you want to find out where the trainers are for the various professions your best bet is to ask a guard. They'll tell you where a lot of things are located actually.

Enjoy the game!

Stevez0r
Apr 19, 2007, 10:54 AM
Thanks for all the information...

Will WoWWiki help me with all the quest also?

topgunn
Apr 19, 2007, 11:09 AM
Yes

gloss
Apr 19, 2007, 11:11 AM
There are way too many good, free resources out there for me to recommend buying a guide in good conscience. Just look around online.

They're handier, anyway. You can't run searches in a game guide.

SilentPanda
Apr 19, 2007, 11:25 AM
If you want help with the quests, the top three sites are probably:

http://www.thottbot.com
http://wow.allakhazam.com
http://www.wowhead.com

My personal preference is usually wowhead.com and I go to the other 2 if I need more information past that. WoWWiki.com is good for more general information about the game instead of specific quests or items for the most part.

bokdol
Apr 19, 2007, 12:09 PM
thottbott.com is your best friend.

you dont need anything else.

SilentPanda
Apr 19, 2007, 01:56 PM
thottbott.com is your best friend.

you dont need anything else.

I only prefer wowhead.com over thottbot.com in that for me it loads faster and the comments are better filtered.

Allotriophagy
Apr 19, 2007, 02:11 PM
wowhead.com is definitely the more refined of the help sites - better comments and better interlinking of items.

It makes looking up quest chains very easy, for example. It's very "clickable" in that you will search for, say, enchants for boots and then you can easily be lead to find where the recipe comes from, what faction you need to grind, the best way to get quest rep, rewards you get along the way...all with helpful comments and locations given.

I had the official guidebook way back when retail started and barely used it as I had already been through two Betas. It came in handy for maps sometimes but they are online too now.

sb58
Apr 19, 2007, 02:51 PM
if you wanna level up easier, the blood elf and draenei starting zones are great. i got level 6 in 25 minutes i think. record for myself :D

AoWolf
Apr 19, 2007, 03:17 PM
thottbott.com is your best friend.

you dont need anything else.

I disagree thottbot is slow, ugly, full of ads, the database is often corrupted, and the comments are less helpful.

Use wowhead. It goes above and beyond thottbot, in a much more user friendly way.

Jovian9
Apr 19, 2007, 03:43 PM
thottbott.com is your best friend.

you dont need anything else.

I agree. This is the only site my wife and I have ever used. It has helped me level one character to 69 and 5 characters to around level 30. It is a bit slow and ugly, but it works. :)

AoWolf
Apr 19, 2007, 07:34 PM
if you wanna level up easier, the blood elf and draenei starting zones are great. i got level 6 in 25 minutes i think. record for myself :D

This is good advice these zones are much newer and are designed for the modern incarnation of the game.

Stevez0r
Apr 20, 2007, 03:15 PM
Ok I was at goldshire and my quest had me find those river creatures, but notice they were level 10 and I was level 6. I was getting killed left and right. Am I doing the quest wrong?

Swarmlord
Apr 20, 2007, 03:23 PM
Ok I was at goldshire and my quest had me find those river creatures, but notice they were level 10 and I was level 6. I was getting killed left and right. Am I doing the quest wrong?

Trying to kill mobs four levels higher than you? I think that's where your problem is. Bring a friend to heal you when you do that.

Swarmlord
Apr 20, 2007, 03:27 PM
If you want help with the quests, the top three sites are probably:

http://www.thottbot.com
http://wow.allakhazam.com
http://www.wowhead.com

My personal preference is usually wowhead.com and I go to the other 2 if I need more information past that. WoWWiki.com is good for more general information about the game instead of specific quests or items for the most part.

Allakhazam is great for providing up to date auction house prices and isn't bad with the coordinates for quest destinations. (A coordinate based addon is a must. Get one!)

Thottbot has improved and I found gives me the most useful information on the faction items now that they've updated it.

What's good for you newbies is that now that BC is out none of us established players spend a second in Molton Core or Black Wing Lair. You'll avoid the lag we all had to endure when that was the only way to get our tier 1 and 2 armor sets.

SilentPanda
Apr 20, 2007, 03:32 PM
What's good for you newbies is that now that BC is out none of us established players spend a second in Molton Core or Black Wing Lair. You'll avoid the lag we all had to endure when that was the only way to get our tier 1 and 2 armor sets.

What's bad for them is that convincing 39 other level 60's to go to Molten Core instead of Outlands is probably near impossible. He won't have to endure the lag but he won't have to endure the non-lag. He'll be lucky to see the inside of Strat, Scholo, UBRS, LBRS, BRD, or DM let alone ZG, AQ20, AQ40, MC, BWL, or Naxx. It's kinda sad that those instances are mostly dead now. They were good memories.

joechops
Apr 20, 2007, 09:59 PM
Ok I was at goldshire and my quest had me find those river creatures, but notice they were level 10 and I was level 6. I was getting killed left and right. Am I doing the quest wrong?

Look at the name of the quest in your quest log. Is it green, yellow, orange, or red? Any quests that are yellow or red in your quest log means they would be difficult for a character of your level to complete on your own.

If the quest is yellow, you may just be fighting the wrong river creatures...

AoWolf
Apr 20, 2007, 10:42 PM
Look at the name of the quest in your quest log. Is it green, yellow, orange, or red? Any quests that are yellow or red in your quest log means they would be difficult for a character of your level to complete on your own.

If the quest is yellow, you may just be fighting the wrong river creatures...



A General rule that will help you (although this does not apply in all situations) is to stay within 3 levels of your character. 4 levels is doable but the miss/resist rates will be very high.

Counterfit
Apr 20, 2007, 11:50 PM
Pff, I easily handled a lvl 48 bear in Felwood with my 44 warrior last night. :p

faintember
Apr 21, 2007, 12:13 AM
Pff, I easily handled a lvl 48 bear in Felwood with my 44 warrior last night. :pTotally agreed as my lvl 40 shadow priest easily handled a lvl 44 warrior in STV last night.:p

Sorry, going through a few lingering WoW withdrawals.:( Not so many withdrawals from PvE, but from some fun random PvP leveling up experiences.

HiRez
Apr 21, 2007, 04:14 AM
I'd even recommend staying with creatures 1-3 levels BELOW your level to maximize efficiency. Sure, you can kill higher-level creatures, but it's a lot more risk without much more reward, much longer fight times, and usually more downtime. There are plenty of quests for any level if you know where to go, why make it harder than it has to be? I have found 1-3 levels below my level to be the sweet spot for leveling efficiency. Pure casters in particular (mages, priests, resto or balance druids) are at a great disadvantage because enemies above your level start increasingly resisting your spells. Also know that if you group with someone who is significantly higher level than you are, your experience earned will drop steeply, so I don't recommend doing this unless it's the only way you can complete a quest.

Counterfit
Apr 21, 2007, 05:02 AM
I found that with a warrior, equal-2 above is great for grinding, especially when rested. Toss in a few equal or 1-2 below elites, and you'll be up one or two levels in no time. Northern Badlands is great for a 36-40 warrior.

Stevez0r
Apr 24, 2007, 09:21 AM
I finally figured out how to level up, I had to do those stupid litte quest. The love letter, the Pie and some others.

Now I'm stuck on finding the oversize pig princess.

phillipjfry
Apr 24, 2007, 09:38 AM
Warning! Guides will NOT help you get through STV any easier!
Stupid horde :(
Things start to slow down in your lvl 50's since no one wants to run UBRS or BRD anymore :(
Gratz on 5 and GL

EDIT: Also, is anyone else playing WoW so much that they are dreaming that they are their characters? I think I need a WoW break. :)

Gasu E.
Apr 24, 2007, 12:08 PM
All the other tradeskills are primary ones. Mining, skinning, and herbalism are considered "gathering professions" by the general populus simply because they are the tradeskills with which you "gather" items from the world. These tend to be the more profitable ones overall because they are raw resources. The other tradeskills are leatherworking, blacksmithing, alchemy, enchanting, tailoring, and jewelcrafting. Typical combinations that people pick are the following although you are free to pick whatever combination you desire.

Leatherworking & Skinning
Blacksmithing & Mining
Alchemy & Herbalism
Enchanting & Tailoring
Jewelcrafting & Mining

You can change tradeskills later in your WOW career. The gathering skills tend to be easier and cheaper to level and more lucrative in the short run. So an alternative strategy that I see some people adopt is to start with two "gathering professions" (typically skinning and either mining or herbalism).
You stick with these until you have enough money to buy your epic mount(s) and have amassed a nice nest egg. Then switch one of the gathering skills to crafting so that you have one of the combos listed above. At this point you can easily power-level the new crafting skill. Using this strategy you will have more money to buy rare recipes for your crafting skill, so you will net out more in the long run. Just a thought; possibly not as much fun as the more traditional way.