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ouketii
Jun 27, 2003, 04:27 PM
it might be offensive to some of you, but its really funny. i especially like the part where he talks about the handles on macs. www.ancientspear.com/mac.wmv just don't take it seriously. enjoy.



hvfsl
Jun 27, 2003, 04:39 PM
VERY FUNNY. I have never had any of those problems on my Mac, but I have had at least 5 of them on my PC today. I really hate it when I drag a file to a new location on my PC and it just creates an alias in the new location. :D

Didn't this just win a prize at WWDC, why is it in the Windows Meda Format? I had to play it on my PC.

Flowbee
Jun 27, 2003, 04:44 PM
What's hilarious is that many of the things they're criticizing about Macs are the very problems I was having with my PC before I switched.

acj
Jun 27, 2003, 05:04 PM
Regardless of the infrequency of the problems he described, he did a pretty good job with this, and it's funny.

mnkeybsness
Jun 27, 2003, 05:05 PM
i've never heard of these problems that this guy thinks he's having...probably just a guy that wants to make fun of apple's "switch" ads. probably has never used a mac either.

and i agree...i've only had these problems on pcs!

LethalWolfe
Jun 27, 2003, 05:18 PM
Old but funny video. I'm surprised ya'll haven't seen it before.


Lethal

iJon
Jun 27, 2003, 06:06 PM
what the hell, i cnat get it to play, wmp, vlc, or mplayer wont do it. anything i am doing wrong?

iJon

Fender2112
Jun 27, 2003, 06:18 PM
Interesting. While this guy is trashing the Mac, I made a few observations.

1. There were serveral reverences to PC's
2. A brief mention of using DOS.
3. NO mention of Windows.

My conclusion is that this guy has only used DOS and never a windowing environment. For some reason he thinks he is using OS X but is actually using Windows.

blogo
Jun 27, 2003, 06:45 PM
The best switch ad is offcourse the gamers version :)

1bit
Jun 27, 2003, 08:06 PM
yeah... it certainly amused me for a few minutes

thanks

shadowfax
Jun 27, 2003, 08:15 PM
it's so stupid though. system files gone? nothing ever truly gone on a PC, but lost on a mac? we have a trash can on a mac. i can't figure out how to get rid of the damn thing. it's easy as pie to get rid of the recycle bin on windows. and system files, what? whatever. i mean, sure, i guess this was kind of amusing, but i can't identify with it at all. is that the joke?

on another note, i watched this on my mac WMP, and got no video. is that supposed to happen?

benixau
Jun 27, 2003, 08:55 PM
pretty funny - i just wonder - how did he do the imac boot? it seemed very real to me. what a waste of an imac that could run OSX.

maraczc
Jun 27, 2003, 08:58 PM
I didn't get any video either. But his comments didn't make much sense. I mean if you don't want system preferences popping up and down all the time than you should just set it not to pop up more than a set number of times or make it not run checks. It's not at all more annoying than those crappy "Update Software Now?" popups in windows which you can only set to put off 3 days max, and appear at restart. As for the renaming, I mean come on how hard is it to remember to click on the icon and not the name.

His sarcastic comment about shutting down the computer is pretty funny though. And his comment on beign cluttered I can agree with. I don't that that this was meant to be a joke.

pseudobrit
Jun 27, 2003, 09:22 PM
It sounds like he's bitching about OS9.

cb911
Jun 27, 2003, 09:28 PM
damn!! it just froze!.... quick, "clover leaf + period + spacebar"! :D

LOL!! :D that was a good one. that has to be a joke, right? LOL. either way, i don't mind laughing at other peoples misfortune. :D

"the Mac is killing my inner child." LOL :D

shadowfax
Jun 27, 2003, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by cb911
damn!! it just froze!.... quick, "clover leaf + period + spacebar"! :D clover leaf! hah! i never noticed he had said that! man, it seems like i alwas call that the apple key when i am too lazy to remember that it's the "command" key. that's pretty funny.

LethalWolfe
Jun 27, 2003, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by maraczc
I didn't get any video either. But his comments didn't make much sense. I mean if you don't want system preferences popping up and down all the time than you should just set it not to pop up more than a set number of times or make it not run checks. It's not at all more annoying than those crappy "Update Software Now?" popups in windows which you can only set to put off 3 days max, and appear at restart. As for the renaming, I mean come on how hard is it to remember to click on the icon and not the name.

His sarcastic comment about shutting down the computer is pretty funny though. And his comment on beign cluttered I can agree with. I don't that that this was meant to be a joke.

1. It's not the same if you don't see the picture.
2. If you don't think this was a joke then you a crappy sense of humor (no offense) or you take Macs way to seriously or you lack at the ability to laugh at yourself or all of the above. ;)


Lethal

Fender2112
Jun 27, 2003, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Shadowfax
it's so stupid though. system files gone? nothing ever truly gone on a PC, but lost on a mac? we have a trash can on a mac. i can't figure out how to get rid of the damn thing. it's easy as pie to get rid of the recycle bin on windows. and system files, what? whatever. i mean, sure, i guess this was kind of amusing, but i can't identify with it at all. is that the joke?

on another note, i watched this on my mac WMP, and got no video. is that supposed to happen?

I didn't get video either. Just the audio.

Fender2112
Jun 27, 2003, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Shadowfax
clover leaf! hah! i never noticed he had said that! man, it seems like i alwas call that the apple key when i am too lazy to remember that it's the "command" key. that's pretty funny.

Hmmm...I've always called it the Apple key, also. Wonder why? Now I remember. I have an old Quadra 700 set up for the kids. The command keys have an Apple symbol on them.

shadowfax
Jun 27, 2003, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Fender2112
Hmmm...I've always called it the Apple key, also. Wonder why? Now I remember. I have an old Quadra 700 set up for the kids. The command keys have an Apple symbol on them. mine does too. they still look just like this:

http://it.wce.wwu.edu/344/manual/glossary/pix/commandkey.jpg

minus the stupid red thing.

alset
Jun 27, 2003, 11:19 PM
How are others getting video? I want to see this guy.

Dan

tazo
Jun 27, 2003, 11:28 PM
"Mac killed my inner-child."

That was really funny, I laughed so hard when he like kicks the iMac apart :P

A lot of the stuff he mentioned is untrue, but still funy; I have had to deal with the alias thing soooo many times in 98SE (Thats a version of windows).

Thanks for the link, original poster

-tazo

Nermal
Jun 27, 2003, 11:50 PM
No video :( I've tried using WiMP and VLC, and neither show the video, they just play the sound.

tazo
Jun 27, 2003, 11:58 PM
I used the "****e pc that allegedly can never get anything to work" to play it in winamp.

Nermal
Jun 28, 2003, 12:10 AM
I just tried to play it on my mum's PC, and it connects to the MS site to download a codec, but fails, telling me it can't find one. So it seems that it might not be a WMV file per se, but something else in a WMV "wrapper" (like how you can have all kinds of formats in a QuickTime wrapper).

benixau
Jun 28, 2003, 02:22 AM
I have a pc and i will see if i can make a QT of it for all of us. BTW - i did get the codec ok.

solvs
Jun 28, 2003, 03:06 AM
I got it to play on my PC, it's got some weird codec. WMP 9, I think.

I didn't get it. Most of what he was talking about I've had problems with on PCs, not Macs. Executables, three fingered salutes (maybe on 9), system files!?! WTF. I've had problems with renamed Windows system files, and odd crashes and such, but very rarely on a Mac. Does this stuff really even happen on a Mac? Especially with OS X? Has this guy used a Mac since 9 (or 8, or earlier)?

He says he did it on a Mac, but it's encoded with a fairly new (and proprietary) Windows codec?

If it's supposed to be ironic, I guess I did get it but that doesn't make it funny. "Angry man beats up perfectly good computers because he says they do these annoying things, that they don't really do".

Maybe OS 8.

shadowfax
Jun 28, 2003, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by solvs
Maybe OS 8. OS 8 doesn't have springy dock icons though. that's the only thing. we could brush it off as someone talking about the "old" mac OS, but not after he talks about the dock.

scem0
Jun 28, 2003, 04:02 AM
lol that was great.

He should be an actor not a video editor ;).

scem0

maradong
Jun 28, 2003, 05:43 AM
pretty funny, until he smashes the imac :(

benixau
Jun 28, 2003, 08:13 AM
ok lads - here is the low down. The file is a low low quality MPEG-4 file. It is 7.6MB and distirbuted as a sit file.
Could somebody please mirror this as my server will not take too many downloads of this size.
Thanks alot and i hope someone is honest enough to help.

mac switch (http://members.optusnet.com.au/benjamingreenau/MacSwitch.mp4.sit)

ouketii
Jun 28, 2003, 10:56 AM
funny how he is bashing macs, then encodes the video into .wmv (windows media) which noone seems to be able to watch.

by the way, i opened it in mozilla, which launched the windows media 9 player, and saved it from there. only 3.45MB.

tazo
Jun 28, 2003, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by ouketii
funny how he is bashing macs, then encodes the video into .wmv (windows media) which noone seems to be able to watch.

by the way, i opened it in mozilla, which launched the windows media 9 player, and saved it from there. only 3.45MB.

same here.

Schiffi
Jun 28, 2003, 02:47 PM
I think he's being sarcastic, since at the end he says the video was created on a mac. If all that stuff were true, then he wouldn't have been able to do the video on a Mac.

What does cmd+.+spacebar do anyway?

tazo
Jun 28, 2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by Schiffi
I think he's being sarcastic, since at the end he says the video was created on a mac. If all that stuff were true, then he wouldn't have been able to do the video on a Mac.

What does cmd+.+spacebar do anyway?

It was an old way to shut down a program or shut down the computer I believe. Similar to control+alt+del on the pc side.

pseudobrit
Jun 28, 2003, 03:03 PM
It's not funny because it's not consistent.

If he were making fun of OS8 or 9 it would be funny, but when he starts bitching about the Dock in addition, it becomes clear that he's talking about OSX too and he wouldn't have the disappearing alias stuff (he calls 'em shortcuts) or the system freezes.

With OSX you can't rename or move root files by accident (or on purpose, unless you're dedicated and go through Terminal) Why would you be in your OS9 System Folder to be able to click and rename by accident anyway? What's there that you could screw up that way?

pseudobrit
Jun 28, 2003, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by tazo
It was an old way to shut down a program or shut down the computer I believe. Similar to control+alt+del on the pc side.

He's confusing it with Open Apple ("command" or "cloverleaf") + Shift + esc (or was it ctrl + apple + esc?)

shadowfax
Jun 28, 2003, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by pseudobrit
He's confusing it with Open Apple ("command" or "cloverleaf") + Shift + esc (or was it ctrl + apple + esc?) i think it's command + option + esc, actually :)

Schiffi
Jun 28, 2003, 03:33 PM
Using 3GPP I compressed it to 1.6 megs

http://www.reallifehosting.com/~schiffi/maccrash

BigJayhawk
Jun 28, 2003, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Fender2112
Hmmm...I've always called it the Apple key, also. Wonder why? Now I remember. I have an old Quadra 700 set up for the kids. The command keys have an Apple symbol on them.

The Command key still has the "Open Apple" on it. At least it does on a TiBook.

benixau
Jun 28, 2003, 09:09 PM
so - do i need to keep the file there any longer?

FredAkbar
Jun 28, 2003, 09:29 PM
Okay can somebody pleeeeeeeease tell me why the command key is called "Open Apple"? I see the Apple logo but where does the "Open" come from? Is it because you can use it to open stuff or something? That doesn't make much sense though.

I used to hear people who didn't know much about Macs call it the Open Apple key, but I've never known why.

--Fred

LethalWolfe
Jun 28, 2003, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by FredAkbar
Okay can somebody pleeeeeeeease tell me why the command key is called "Open Apple"? I see the Apple logo but where does the "Open" come from? Is it because you can use it to open stuff or something? That doesn't make much sense though.

I used to hear people who didn't know much about Macs call it the Open Apple key, but I've never known why.

--Fred

IIRC the command key to the right of the space bar used to be a "solid" apple while the command key to the left of the space bar was just an outline or "open" (like it is today). So "open apple" refered to one key and "closed apple" refered to another.

At least this what I remember from a long, long time ago in a place called 6th grade. ;)


Lethal

DVDSP
Jun 28, 2003, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by LethalWolfe
IIRC the command key to the right of the space bar used to be a "solid" apple while the command key to the left of the space bar was just an outline or "open" (like it is today). So "open apple" refered to one key and "closed apple" refered to another.

Yeah, you recall correctly. I'm stumped though, 'cause I remember that the closed Apple key did something different than the open Apple key, but I don't remember what it was.

By the way, Command+Option+Esc used to get an app to Force Quit (sometimes, other times that app would just freeze with the Force Quit window partly built, verrry handy). Now it opens the Force Quit menu.

LethalWolfe
Jun 28, 2003, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by DVDSP
Yeah, you recall correctly. I'm stumped though, 'cause I remember that the closed Apple key did something different than the open Apple key, but I don't remember what it was.


Thanx for the confirmation. Glad to know I'm not nuts. ;)

There was probably a 7 or 8 year period where I never touched a Mac, and it was during this time that they dropped the "closed Apple." So when I started using Macs again I always said "open Apple" because that's what I remembered. One day I noticed that both keys were now "open" and I was like, "hmmm... I'm sure I sound like a dumbass saying 'open apple' when that describes both keys now.'" So I tweaked it down to just "apple", and only in the past year or so have I started calling it "command." Guess I'm just slow to change sometimes. ;)


Lethal

Gus
Jun 28, 2003, 11:47 PM
The "Closed Apple" key harkens back to the Apple IIe days. If you wanted to do a "cold boot" from the floppy drive, you had to hold down the Closed Apple and some other key which has been deleted from my memory to make room for Terminal commands. :)

Regards,
Gus

P.S. I like how he refers to "Update manager" and "the Executable File".

BigJayhawk
Jun 29, 2003, 09:23 AM
As I recall the timing of dropping the Closed Apple (and for a while BOTH Apple keys) coincided with the trend to make Applications work similarly on both Macs and PeeCees. (This was mostly MS Apps.)

PeeCee Apps used Command keys which Apple did not have (due to Open and Closed Apple) so it was confusing for the cross-platform people. I think on a few models the "clover" (heh) was accompanied by cmd (for command) and not an Apple at all. Then over time the Apple came back. At least that's my recollection.

jzieske
Jul 5, 2003, 11:49 AM
Has to be one of the funniest things I have seen in a while. But that poor iMac, may it RIP.

Ryan1524
Jul 5, 2003, 01:45 PM
he's probably just a mac user/lover who has a very good sense of humor. :D

and the macs he destroyed are probably dead machines anyway..;)

cerver13
Aug 5, 2003, 12:43 AM
I must say i was quite suprised by these replies.

It appears there are 2 types of people, ones that think these problems are on the mac, and ones that think these are pc problems


a lot of people said what hes talking about doesn't actualy happen and that its a problem with pc's

well, some of the parts i laughed at the hardest, because they are TRUE (ive had it happen to me)

-if you accidently click on a file, it renames to nothing

go ahead and try it if u think it never happens, specialy if ur in detailed view, if u click on the name it instatnly renames

-dragging files from cd just create shortcuts

on a pc drag and drop will (a) on the same drive, move (b) on a different drive, copy


there are also a couple things that dont actualy happen, he claimed that you can delete system files, wich you cant.

so that of course is just a joke
many people asked "is this ment as a joke?" yes its ment as a joke, but a lot of what he says frequently happens


heres some things i want to quote
If he were making fun of OS8 or 9 it would be funny, but when he starts bitching about the Dock in addition, it becomes clear that he's talking about OSX too and he wouldn't have the disappearing alias stuff (he calls 'em shortcuts) or the system freezes.
alias stuff is all over osX especialy with connections to ftp servers

funny how he is bashing macs, then encodes the video into .wmv (windows media) which noone seems to be able to watch. were did you get that idea? if no one can open it then how did everyone watch it? do you even know what wmv is?? its a windows media player file, wich works on, omg! windows media player, wierd isn't it?



i guess this brings up the whole argument of the problems on macs vs pc, and i dont want to get into that but i will say this


THESE PROBLEMS DO OCCUR ON MACS, NOT NECCISARILY YOUR RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY DO HAPPEN, SO DONT SAY THAT THEY DONT.

Daveman Deluxe
Aug 5, 2003, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by cerver13
-if you accidently click on a file, it renames to nothing

go ahead and try it if u think it never happens, specialy if ur in detailed view, if u click on the name it instatnly renames

I have worked with at least a hundred different Macs for ten years and have not ONCE had a file rename itself to nothing just from clicking on it.

-dragging files from cd just create shortcuts on a pc drag and drop will (a) on the same drive, move (b) on a different drive, copy

The Mac does the same thing.

alias stuff is all over osX especialy with connections to ftp servers

were did you get that idea? if no one can open it then how did everyone watch it? do you even know what wmv is?? its a windows media player file, wich works on, omg! windows media player, wierd isn't it?

No arguments there.

i guess this brings up the whole argument of the problems on macs vs pc, and i dont want to get into that

And I don't want to get into your punctuation, spelling, and grammar.

but i will say this

THESE PROBLEMS DO OCCUR ON MACS, NOT NECCISARILY YOUR RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY DO HAPPEN, SO DONT SAY THAT THEY DONT.

I'll be damned if you've experimented with any of this stuff to see whether it's true or not, but several dozen of us have unanimously declared it doesn't happen based on quantitative experience. That's a good indication that it doesn't happen.

I thought the movie was hilarious. If he's a Mac user, it was a nice parody of the typical garbage we hear from Wintel users... if not it was funny nevertheless.

iJon
Aug 5, 2003, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by cerver13
I must say i was quite suprised by these replies.

It appears there are 2 types of people, ones that think these problems are on the mac, and ones that think these are pc problems


a lot of people said what hes talking about doesn't actualy happen and that its a problem with pc's

well, some of the parts i laughed at the hardest, because they are TRUE (ive had it happen to me)

-if you accidently click on a file, it renames to nothing

go ahead and try it if u think it never happens, specialy if ur in detailed view, if u click on the name it instatnly renames

-dragging files from cd just create shortcuts

on a pc drag and drop will (a) on the same drive, move (b) on a different drive, copy


there are also a couple things that dont actualy happen, he claimed that you can delete system files, wich you cant.

so that of course is just a joke
many people asked "is this ment as a joke?" yes its ment as a joke, but a lot of what he says frequently happens


heres some things i want to quote
alias stuff is all over osX especialy with connections to ftp servers

were did you get that idea? if no one can open it then how did everyone watch it? do you even know what wmv is?? its a windows media player file, wich works on, omg! windows media player, wierd isn't it?



i guess this brings up the whole argument of the problems on macs vs pc, and i dont want to get into that but i will say this


THESE PROBLEMS DO OCCUR ON MACS, NOT NECCISARILY YOUR RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY DO HAPPEN, SO DONT SAY THAT THEY DONT.
well i agree with the guy above me, cant say ive had your problems here, but it doenst suprise me that you have these problems, it seems every newbie pc user has something bad to say. and i also couldnt watch your video in windows media player, or vlc or mplayer.

iJon

LegionCSUF
Aug 5, 2003, 02:31 AM
I don't know why everyone is like "is he ranting about OS 9 or OS X? It can't be both!"

Well, yes, he probably is ranting about both. When I rant about Windows, I don't limit my tales of woe to Windows XP! As a longtime PC user, I have tales of woe dating looooong back. I do tend to leave the Windows 3.1 ones out, but Win95 on is fair game.

The fact that he brings up DOS should make it obvious that some of his ranting probably is directed at older MacOS versions, and the Dock comments are his shot at OS X.

cerver13
Aug 5, 2003, 03:01 AM
well i agree with the guy above me, cant say ive had your problems here, but it doenst suprise me that you have these problems, it seems every newbie pc user has something bad to say. and i also couldnt watch your video in windows media player, or vlc or mplayer.

iJon

dont go around calling people noobies cuz they dont like ur mac, you dont know who i am or what i do, why go around saying such things when you have NO IDEA how talented i am with computers??

and if im the noobie, please tell me why you cant open a .wmv file in windows media player

my guess is u gave it 1 second of a try and decided it dind't work so you could rant about how pc's suck, when your problem is you were trying to stream it and weren't patient enough, did you try to actualy download the thing?

i garentee you the movie plays in WMP cuz ive done it, give it another go, it is actualy the funniest thing ive scene in a long time

cerver13
Aug 5, 2003, 03:07 AM
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Originally posted by cerver13
-if you accidently click on a file, it renames to nothing

go ahead and try it if u think it never happens, specialy if ur in detailed view, if u click on the name it instatnly renames
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I have worked with at least a hundred different Macs for ten years and have not ONCE had a file rename itself to nothing just from clicking on it.



that would be why it doesn't happen to you, you are used to the "single click on name to rename" feature, in windows you click ont eh file, then click on the name to rename, thats why it happens, try it right now, single click on the name, and it will open up the rename feature, and usualy the person is expecting it to open so they hit some key that deletes it

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-dragging files from cd just create shortcuts on a pc drag and drop will (a) on the same drive, move (b) on a different drive, copy
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The Mac does the same thing.


well i sure thought it didn;t but since i dont have one here to double check i wont argue it

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alias stuff is all over osX especialy with connections to ftp servers

were did you get that idea? if no one can open it then how did everyone watch it? do you even know what wmv is?? its a windows media player file, wich works on, omg! windows media player, wierd isn't it?
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No arguments there.


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i guess this brings up the whole argument of the problems on macs vs pc, and i dont want to get into that
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And I don't want to get into your punctuation, spelling, and grammar.

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but i will say this

THESE PROBLEMS DO OCCUR ON MACS, NOT NECCISARILY YOUR RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY DO HAPPEN, SO DONT SAY THAT THEY DONT.
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I'll be damned if you've experimented with any of this stuff to see whether it's true or not, but several dozen of us have unanimously declared it doesn't happen based on quantitative experience. That's a good indication that it doesn't happen.

I thought the movie was hilarious. If he's a Mac user, it was a nice parody of the typical garbage we hear from Wintel users... if not it was funny nevertheless.


i have experimented with this stuff, i used to maintain a very big webpage, and they gave me a imac to do it, the biggest problems i had was this

-the rename feature just kept happening, so id have to find out what name the file was before so my site didn;t get 404

-files disapearing...at one point i didn;t have administrative login on the ftp server, so they would log me in and walk away, ocasionaly when you click on a file it woudl disapear until you relogin, i cant relogin wihtout the password, so i was screwed

-the aliases of the ftp servers disapearing

-not being able to connect to 2 roots on the same ftp server at once (it would apear it worked ie 1 icon said drive a one said drive b, but drive b actualy linked to drive a, they weren;t acctualy called drive a and b but u get the picture)




go ahead and call me noobish, but ive used a mac enough to know what problems piss me off

solvs
Aug 5, 2003, 06:39 AM
I think he called you a newbie for a few reasons. First, under your user name, it says "MacRumors Newbie".

Second, besides the many spelling and grammar errors (which aren't that big of a deal, I'm a lousy speller and lazy typist too, people should get over that), you use lower case "i"s and spell you are as "ur" or newbie as "noobie". That's kinda funny. Just so you know, this isn't SlashDot, no one cares how smart you are or how good you are with computers. Especially when you revive an old thread and start bashing Apples on MacRumors. We talk about Macs here. We like Apple. Except when they piss us off.

Then we complain.

Also, no offense, but a lot of your issues seemed to be user error. If you knew more about the Mac OS, you wouldn't have had those problems. Maybe if you got to know the iMac better, you would have enjoyed using it more. ~ Join us, join us ~ And the reason a lot of these people couldn't see the video, was because it is a WMP 9 codec. Which AFAIK, isn't yet available on the Mac. That's why some of us had to use a PC to view it. That's right, some of us use Macs AND PCs. We're not all elitist Mac zealots.

Even thou M$ Windowz sux yo. ;P (sic BTW)

I still don't get it.

AnotherMortal
Aug 5, 2003, 07:15 AM
It just seems so funny to me how PC vs. Mac arguments arise in an instant, and then starts the intelligence insults.
Though I do agree that some of the things in the video (which I opened on my PC at work) are true, (especially the bounching dock issue. lol) I've had an overall more pleasurable experience with Macs than PCs.

Though when asked here at work (sometimes in a blatent attempt to start an argument) I usually reply that I prefer to use the best tool for the job.


Now slowly guiding my derailed train of thought back on topic, I did like the video. Reminded me of the "Mac Gamer" switch parody. "...I'm a Mac gamer...well, I used to be." lol.

ewinemiller
Aug 5, 2003, 09:14 AM
A few hours after watching this, and laughing, I was playing in iMovie working on a video of the kids and boom iMovie got an error and just disappeared. That kind of stuff happens on both sides of the Mac/PC fence.

Horrortaxi
Aug 5, 2003, 09:46 AM
Sure you get erors and strange/bad things happening on both platforms, but the guy is stunningly and embarassingly full of crap. Events like he described are what got me to switch to Mac (just to be clear I switched so I would get less of them, not more).

Has anybody seen video with this? He said at the end "everything you saw was edited with a Mac" so if it was intentionally a black screen it would just be a joke. Obviously he didn't make it on a Mac and save it in a Windows format. Perhaps it's a wmv for the same reason that buymusic.com doesn't allow Mac users on their website--we know he's full of crap.

Eniregnat
Aug 5, 2003, 11:50 AM
I love this. Many of the complaints made about the Macs are compaints about WinTell computers.

There is not DOS in Windows anymore. There is a C:\ prompt or Comand Line, but it DOSn't have the same features as the DOS included with Windows 95 or 3.11.

cerver13
Aug 5, 2003, 02:08 PM
I think everyone overlooked my initial point, i was just informing you that these are not problems many people make up randomly. These are all problems many people have, i was just letting you know this so that maybe you might understand the next time a "pc newbie" complains about them, like you i understand how these problems arise, and some are user error, but they still are problems if many people are having them.

Eniregnat
Aug 5, 2003, 02:21 PM
I got the point, and from my pov some are not platform specific, and others are. Every system has its "features". I don't think that anybody denies that Apples have their flaws, just fewer of them. I admin both PCs and Macs, and the transistion between the two is pretty seamless for me. We just rarely saw crashes on the Macs.

By the way, the dragging the contents on to the desk top feature got me several times before I figured out what was going on.

iJon
Aug 5, 2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by cerver13
dont go around calling people noobies cuz they dont like ur mac, you dont know who i am or what i do, why go around saying such things when you have NO IDEA how talented i am with computers??

and if im the noobie, please tell me why you cant open a .wmv file in windows media player

my guess is u gave it 1 second of a try and decided it dind't work so you could rant about how pc's suck, when your problem is you were trying to stream it and weren't patient enough, did you try to actualy download the thing?

i garentee you the movie plays in WMP cuz ive done it, give it another go, it is actualy the funniest thing ive scene in a long time
i do have a pc and i watched it on that computer. i called you newb because it says it right under your name, and we have had lots of those lately with pc people talking about all kinds of things about the mac. i dont care how talented you are on a computer, i was just disagreeing with your problems on the mac which i have never had. and i did play it in wmp, but it only played audio, and take a look at page 1, im not the only person with the problem.

iJon

Eniregnat
Aug 5, 2003, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by ouketii
it might be offensive to some of you, but its really funny. i especially like the part where he talks about the handles on macs. www.ancientspear.com/mac.wmv just don't take it seriously. enjoy.

Just to refocus the thread and to keep this from becoming a Flame-A-Thon. Welcome (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7993&perpage=25&highlight=posts%20member&pagenumber=1) cerver13 (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=20014). It takes 20 posts (I think) to loose the "newbie" tag and 500 to get an Avatar. The tags are not pejorative, but rather are used as a way of identifying how long people have been with the board. A high number of posts don’t make somebody a good member, but quality responses and an open mind do. I don't think that anybody meant any insult to you. But I digress.

It looks like it was made with love, especially if they had so many problems with a Mac.

simX
Aug 5, 2003, 07:33 PM
Uhhh, OK. I was taking somebody's word for it that you need to see the video, but so far, I have had no luck at getting the video.

The MP4 compressed video is gone, the 3GPP compressed video that was also put up doesn't work (adding a .3gp extension makes it open up in QT but QT still doesn't recognize it, nor does WMP), and the PC here at work does the codec download/audio fail thing (and it doesn't even have any way to produce sound, anyway).

So can someone please post how to view the video? Sheesh, maybe I shouldn't spend time trying to watch what sounds like a lame video (and yes I listened to the video). :rolleyes:

bobindashadows
Aug 5, 2003, 11:22 PM
Heh i finally got the audio file to work... but contrary to what Sir OMG WTF LOL may think, none of these happen on macs. Drag files from CDs, they copy. Software Update - close it, genius :rolleyes: click the name of system files? NOTHING happens. THat's because they don't belong to you. You aren't allowed to change their names! Sure, that's a problem for some, but why would you really want to change the name? Maybe the contents, but the name?! He's talking about the useless Bomb dialog, i think, because it never worked (at least for me). The buttons always just stayed clicked and didn't doing anything. They pissed me off because they tried to help, but you knew they didn't work.

Oh - command-period was (is) the way to stop opening an application, or generally the "stop" key command. If you accidentally opened an application, if you pressed commad-period it would quit for you. Very nice. I know the guy is joking, at least I hope so, because otherwise he's quite ignorant.

ALL THSE THINGS HAPPEN ON MACS!!!1!!11!!1!!111!!1 OMG LOL WTF