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12991
May 28, 2007, 04:35 PM
Im currently addicted to my xbox 360. I really have to stop. So im going to be selling it. But i need video games. Its a part of me. I need them to relax.

I was thinking i should get a ds or a psp. Which one should i get? Ive owned a psp before (two actually) but that was well over a year ago. It seems the games have gotten better. I have no clue which one to get though. i was thinking PSP because the games are more console-y. The DS is nice because its quick, no loading, and is more durable.

Or should i just quit video games altogether? If not, tell me your pick, some good games out that you like, a few upcoming games, and why you choose that one over the other. Thanks a lot in advance.

PS: I spend too much time playing GoW right now.



asxtb
May 28, 2007, 04:58 PM
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Try searching the gaming forum. Lots of DS vs PSP threads. Most people here like the DS but I prefer the PSP cause of the sports games. I think it just depends on what games you like.

AppleGuy08
May 28, 2007, 04:59 PM
Uh oh, despite there already being a few of these "psp vs. DSlite/which one should i get" forums, i would have to say DS lite. I have both, and I can assure you i have logged probably 2-3 times more hours on my DSlite than my PSP. Sure, psp has a cool internet browser, music (which isnt even really that great) and video, but the DS tops it in fun games, plus, it wont be long before the DS has a browser of its own. And if the DS browser is even half as good of the Wii's, whew, it'll b great.

12991
May 28, 2007, 05:01 PM
What are some good fun games for the DS though? It looks so small and cute, and i know its a system where you wont get addicted, but you will want to keep playing (no what im saying?) But i cant see any good games for it

Littleodie914
May 28, 2007, 05:12 PM
What are some good fun games for the DS though? It looks so small and cute, and i know its a system where you wont get addicted, but you will want to keep playing (no what im saying?) But i cant see any good games for itNew Super Mario Bros. and Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow are my two favorites, Mario Kart isn't bad for a racer, and I've heard the Metroid was pretty good as well.

zap2
May 28, 2007, 05:23 PM
What are some good fun games for the DS though? It looks so small and cute, and i know its a system where you wont get addicted, but you will want to keep playing (no what im saying?) But i cant see any good games for it

their are lots of great DS games.....i like more games on the DS, then the PSP. Of course that doesn't mean you will.


And if you can't see any good games for it, why would you even think about getting it? Assuming you have looked at all the games....Advance Wars:DS is addicting as hell, as is pokémon. Their are so really great games on DS, as well as PSP.


If I were you I'd go to IGN.com(or some other game site) look at the highest reviewed games, and see which ones you like more. We can't tell you which to like more.

Dagless
May 28, 2007, 05:23 PM
What are some good fun games for the DS though? It looks so small and cute, and i know its a system where you wont get addicted, but you will want to keep playing (no what im saying?) But i cant see any good games for it

Oh, I wouldn't say that. The DS is a very versatile system. You have pick up and play games (Tetris, Meteos, Ninendogs, Mario Kart, Mario), but games with incredible depth (Final Fantasy, Hotel Dusk, Pokemon, Castlevania, Metroid, Advance Wars). That said, most of the "console" like games have pick up and play qualities, like they'll be loaded with save points or have sleep options. Just to be extra flexible.

Hand on heart - Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow is the greatest video game I have ever played. I've pumped more time into that than any other single player game, I'm even reaching to get my player to level 100, even though there is no point in doing so. It's just amazing that I'm giving myself pointless tasks to perform on it.

It's a brilliant system that had to beat the GBA. And it did. I wouldn't be surprised to see the DS dancing over the top of combined Wii/360/PS3 sales in 5 years time.

Late edit: Advance Wars is massively addictive. And I find Tetris in a long stress inducing match more immersive than any of these next gen consoles, strangely enough! But it's Tetris...

FleurDuMal
May 28, 2007, 05:27 PM
The DS Lite is the best handheld system I've ever owned.

However, I had only previously owned a Sega Game Gear (and a Gameboy Advance, which was stolen after about three days of owning it).

Nah, seriously, I would get the DS. But that's just me. I'm sure the PSP has some redeeming features.

sikkinixx
May 28, 2007, 06:40 PM
By GoW do you mean Gears or God? I'm assuming Gears since you have a 360 but if it is God of War then PSP is getting its own version so thats something to think about.

I prefer my PSP over my DS. The games I have (or had, a few got stolen :( ) Daxter, Ratchet & Clank, GTA's, Lumines, Sega Genesis Collection, Syphon Filter, Loco Roco, WipeOut and Burnout are all games I like.

I wanted console games on a handheld and I think PSP does that better than the DS does. Plus if Sony ever gets their act together, a PSP store is coming this year which will hopefully allow for PSX downloads but who knows if it will actually pan out.

I also like that it's a versitile machine that can play movies/music in a pinch (while I am still waiting for that full screen video iPod ;)) as well as very basically browse the net if you need to check the game score or something without paying to use my cell phone. Memory sticks aren't very expensive anymore, I saw a 4GB one on sale at Futureshop for $90 cdn, and 2GB one's are under $100 cdn regular price. Battery life isn't awful like people make it out to be and being able to hae a spare one is good if you are on a plane or in the car or something.

Just my two cents.

GFLPraxis
May 28, 2007, 11:57 PM
Im currently addicted to my xbox 360. I really have to stop. So im going to be selling it. But i need video games. Its a part of me. I need them to relax.

I was thinking i should get a ds or a psp. Which one should i get? Ive owned a psp before (two actually) but that was well over a year ago. It seems the games have gotten better. I have no clue which one to get though. i was thinking PSP because the games are more console-y. The DS is nice because its quick, no loading, and is more durable.

Or should i just quit video games altogether? If not, tell me your pick, some good games out that you like, a few upcoming games, and why you choose that one over the other. Thanks a lot in advance.

PS: I spend too much time playing GoW right now.

The PSP is more console-y, but is that what you want out of a handheld? You're getting the load times, the requirement of a memory stick, the poor analog stick, no right analog stick...

There's going to be some decent Final Fantasy games next year on PSP, but the DS is getting more.

PSP's actually shaping up to be a decent handheld (FINALLY) after price drops and some actually good games coming out. But it still doesn't hold a candle to the DS, which I have over a dozen games for. The DS just has a humongous library, double the battery life, a lower price tag for the system and the games, and is designed more as a handheld (games are designed for pick-up and play with no load times).


I'd say get a DS.

Mario Kart DS, Tetris DS (yes, I know it's Tetris, but the DS version is online and has this retro-theme and is really quite unique, it's fun), Metroid Prime Hunters, Elite Beat Agents (best handheld game of all time IMHO), Pokemon, New Super Mario Bros, Advance Wars, Final Fantasy III, etc are all spectacular and out now. I'm particularly looking forward to Zelda: Phantom Hourglass at the end of this year.

Dagless
May 29, 2007, 06:22 AM
The Praxis speaks the truth! Elite Beat Agents is something else, after seeing the song list I was a little "hmm"ing over it, but even though I only like 1 track (YMCA :D ) it's still got me addicted and is as fun as hell.

Silver-Fox
May 29, 2007, 06:25 AM
i have both DS and PSP and even though the PSP in my opinion is a better console i just like the DS more for more fun game play

FleurDuMal
May 29, 2007, 06:26 AM
Oh, and the PSP doesn't have the Brain Training game, nor 42 All Time Classics...both maybe very basic, but painfully addictive.

Coded-Dude
May 29, 2007, 09:05 AM
Oh, and the PSP doesn't have the Brain Training game, nor 42 All Time Classics...both maybe very basic, but painfully addictive.
Mind Quiz is a brain training game for the PSP.

Related Games: Hot Brain, Lumines, Diner Dash: Sizzle & Serve, Exit, Ultimate Board Games, Capcom Puzzle World, Lemmings, Metal Slug Anthology, Sega Genesis Collection, Capcom Classics Collection Remixed, Capcom Classics Collection Reloaded, Activision Hits Remixed, Namco Museum Battle Collection, Namco Museum, Namco Museum 2.

Plus games like: Killzone, God of War, Syphon Filter, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Daxter, Ratchet & Clank, Ace Combat, etc.

asxtb
May 29, 2007, 11:52 PM
The PSP is more console-y, but is that what you want out of a handheld? You're getting the load times, the requirement of a memory stick, the poor analog stick, no right analog stick...
I really don't think the load times are that bad... The requirement of a memory stick that comes with the system... Yes, the analog stick is poor, but you can get a 'nub' that makes it a little bigger but easier to control... And no, no right analog stick... compared to the DS's analog stick... ;)

Really can't argue about the games. The games I play are better on the PSP and/or lacking on the DS.

holamiamigos
May 30, 2007, 12:05 AM
ds for sure go for the brain games man!

GFLPraxis
May 30, 2007, 12:23 AM
The Praxis speaks the truth! Elite Beat Agents is something else, after seeing the song list I was a little "hmm"ing over it, but even though I only like 1 track (YMCA :D ) it's still got me addicted and is as fun as hell.

I've got a friend who I can not convince to buy the game. He's got every other good DS game but he refuses to buy EBA because he insists that he thinks game music is important and he hates all the music in it.

He won't accept the fact that I hate all the music in the game yet love the game because it actually makes it enjoyable. Any suggestions for how to convince him?

http://fanboys-online.com/comics/20070413.jpg

BRUUUCE
May 30, 2007, 12:32 AM
I personally like the DS lite better. I use it on the train/toilet/plane/car etc... i have a 360, so i rarely play it at home.

however, if this is going to be your main device, and you'll be playing at home regularly, maybe the PSP is the way to go. DS lite games, although much more fun, finish faster.

GimmeSlack12
May 30, 2007, 12:38 AM
I think the DS is a great system and a very well balanced handheld.

As for the Brain Training game, don't waste your money. It might be relatively ground breaking, but it has very little Lasting appeal. Mario Kart DS has some GREAT lasting appeal though.

zap2
May 30, 2007, 05:13 AM
I really don't think the load times are that bad... The .

Load time on a handheld=Bad IMO


I The requirement of a memory stick that comes with the system...

Check the Core Bundle....it doesn't come with one.


but you can get a 'nub' that makes it a little bigger but easier to control...

More hidden fees?

And no, no right analog stick... compared to the DS's analog stick... ;)


Touch screen+stylus functions pretty well as an analog stick...plus more



Really can't argue about the games. The games I play are better on the PSP and/or lacking on the DS.

I disagree..but its a personal choose, so I can't force to to like other games. I am interest how DS are "lacking" though...

PCMacUser
May 30, 2007, 05:31 AM
I had a PSP with GTA LCS and it was great. Months of gameplay there. I like the fact that you can switch it off, mid-game, and then switch it back on and it resumes instantly (no loading) where you left off. If you want to play a different game every five minutes though, that's a different story.

Movies look great on it too.

Perhaps there'll be a PSP2 sometime with a built in hard drive. That'll be nice.

From what I can tell, the DS consoles focus more on cute G-rated games. Personally I'm not into the cartoony animal things. But some people are, and I can respect that (cough).

rockosmodurnlif
May 30, 2007, 05:37 AM
If I had to buy again I would buy a DS lite mainly so I can get my RPG fix. There really aren't any great RPGs for the PSP. But you seem hooked on GoW which I am guessing is Gears of War or God of War and I believe there is a PSP version of God of War on the way.

It seemed to me like you made your PSP decision a while back when you sold two of them. So just try the DS lite then.

JackAxe
May 30, 2007, 05:50 AM
DS = Fun games.
PSP = Dust collecting with style.

<]=)

FleurDuMal
May 30, 2007, 06:17 AM
Mind Quiz is a brain training game for the PSP.

Related Games: Hot Brain, Lumines, Diner Dash: Sizzle & Serve, Exit, Ultimate Board Games, Capcom Puzzle World, Lemmings, Metal Slug Anthology, Sega Genesis Collection, Capcom Classics Collection Remixed, Capcom Classics Collection Reloaded, Activision Hits Remixed, Namco Museum Battle Collection, Namco Museum, Namco Museum 2.

Plus games like: Killzone, God of War, Syphon Filter, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Daxter, Ratchet & Clank, Ace Combat, etc.

My mistake. I'm sure the PSP has plenty of great games. There just seemed to me something a little bit more exciting about the DS, whereas the PSP just seemed like a mobile home console.

Oh, and I like Mario and Pokemon, so my mind was kinda made up for me :o

M@lew
May 30, 2007, 06:58 AM
DS or PSP? It depends what you want to get out of the system.

If there's a game for PSP you want (e.g. GTA) that's not for DS it's obvious which one to get.

If you want movies, music, internet browsing, get the PSP.

If you want a touchpad and more interactive feelings get the DS.

It all comes down to what you want and how much you're willing to spend.

asxtb
May 30, 2007, 07:07 AM
Load time on a handheld=Bad IMOI don't see how it is any worse than a regular console. Which I think the PSP has faster load times than a console.

Check the Core Bundle....it doesn't come with one.Sorry. When I bought mine there were two models to choose from a 32MB model and a 1GB model.

More hidden fees?And the DS doesn't? How about a stylus that you can actually hold and use? Or a case? (Maybe the DS comes with a case. Not for sure.)

Touch screen+stylus functions pretty well as an analog stick...plus moreBecause everyone likes to hold a pen when they play games. :p AAABBBAABAAA...wait! use the styl... Oh, I died. ;)

I disagree..but its a personal choose, so I can't force to to like other games. I am interest how DS are "lacking" though...That's why I said I can't argue about games. Everyone has personal preference. (Actually can't really can't argue about any of the stuff mentioned above. Each system is unique and I feel have different target audiences. But....) And sorry for the confusion, when I said lacking I mean there were no games for the DS.

As I've said in many previous threads, I play sports games 95% of the time. Find me a package of sports games that are better on the DS than the PSP.

But whatever... You like what you like and I like what I like. :D

asxtb
May 30, 2007, 07:13 AM
DS = Fun games.
PSP = Dust collecting with style.

<]=)
DS = Dust collecting with Style.
PSP = Ephing Super Phun!
:D :p Sorry, just had to. :o

All in good fun!

GFLPraxis
May 30, 2007, 02:45 PM
I don't see how it is any worse than a regular console. Which I think the PSP has faster load times than a console.


It's quite significant on the go, actually. Generally with handhelds people want to pick up and play for a little bit, maybe a quick ten-twenty minute session. Having zero load times makes this short game session much more enjoyable.


And the DS doesn't? How about a stylus that you can actually hold and use?


What the heck are you talking about? I've never bought a stylus for the DS. The base one is great. Heck, it came with a spare in the box.


Because everyone likes to hold a pen when they play games. :p AAABBBAABAAA...wait! use the styl... Oh, I died. ;)


What are you talking about...?

GFLPraxis
May 30, 2007, 02:47 PM
DS = Dust collecting with Style.
PSP = Ephing Super Phun!
:D :p Sorry, just had to. :o

All in good fun!

Considering my 14 DS games...Dust collecting is hardly the term I'd use.


Besides. PSP stands for:
Progressive Supranuclear Palsy
Paralytic Shellfish Poisoning
Praja Socialist Party

See? Buy a PSP, and it'll paralyze you and make you a communist. :p

Dagless
May 30, 2007, 04:08 PM
Besides. PSP stands for:
Progressive Supranuclear Palsy
Paralytic Shellfish Poisoning
Praja Socialist Party

See? Buy a PSP, and it'll paralyze you and make you a communist. :p

You forgot the real name-

Playstation Portable.

Yea. Load times? Haha. No way daddio, I hate them on a console (I'd just like to play the game, kthx) and on a handheld I'm stuck holding a brick whilst a little progress bar fills. I'm sorry but as a gamer brought up in the 80's and 90's I'm sick of loading full stop. I think that's one of the reasons why I've always preferred proper portable consoles as they do away with loading. It's cool if you like loading - I don't.

That said the DS isn't perfect there. Saving in Pokemon can take quite a while... Alright. thats it :D but it still takes a while :o

PCMacUser - the DS has that functionality too. You close the lid and enters the same minimal power using sleep mode the PSP has. Even the GBA had a few games with a sleep function.

GFLPraxis
May 30, 2007, 05:43 PM
From what I can tell, the DS consoles focus more on cute G-rated games. Personally I'm not into the cartoony animal things. But some people are, and I can respect that (cough).

Dude, who cares? I play games for fun. If cartoony game A is more fun than realistic-looking game B, I'll play game A, thank you very much.

You make it sound like people buy a DS because they like cartoons.

I play Mario Kart because Mario Kart is FUN.

And please, do explain to me how Metroid is "cartoony".

JackAxe
May 30, 2007, 08:36 PM
DS = Dust collecting with Style.
PSP = Ephing Super Phun!
:D :p Sorry, just had to. :o

All in good fun!

Now you've dun didify it, but that does work! :)

How about:
DS = Dynamite collection of Super games.
PSP = Portable Super Potty. :D Ok, that was very childlish of me and doesn't really work. :o

<]=)

Coded-Dude
May 31, 2007, 12:09 AM
Now you've dun didify it, but that does work! :)

How about:
DS = Dynamite collection of Super games.
PSP = Portable Super Potty. :D Ok, that was very childlish of me and doesn't really work. :o

<]=)


Well, if we are poking fun, I'm gonna point out the most obvious one.......
Ds Sucks! :p j/k

They are both awesome portables and seems to be doing well in theri own right.
Like most have already stated, its about what kind of games(among other "portable" features) you prefer. ;)

asxtb
May 31, 2007, 05:17 AM
What the heck are you talking about?
I was referencing Zap's comment about hidden fees for the PSP for buying a nub, as I called it. The analog stick is usable and you don't need to buy the nub. Same goes for the DS stylus. The thing is tiny. And I find it extremely hard to hold. While you didn't buy a different stylus some people have. I'm just saying this could be considered a hidden fee.

As for using the stylus. I think it would be distracting having to use the stylus in the middle of a game like Mario. Where you are running a jumping and pressing the A and B buttons but then have to stop in the middle to use the stylus.

Considering my 14 DS games...Dust collecting is hardly the term I'd use.
And considering my 5 games for my PSP.... Dust collecting is hardly the term I'd use either.

Now you've dun didify it, but that does work! :)

How about:
DS = Dynamite collection of Super games.
PSP = Portable Super Potty. :D Ok, that was very childlish of me and doesn't really work. :o

<]=)
That's a good one. I'm one the train and really have to go... Good thing I have my PSP, Portable Super Potty!!!! :D You can use it in public right? :eek:

We could come up with this all day.
DS = Dog Sh__ or Donkey Kong Sh__
PSP = Pure Sh__ Platform or Princess Secretly Prefers
Ok, those aren't very good but anyways.... enough before it gets too graphic. :eek:

Tom B.
May 31, 2007, 06:39 AM
I have a DS Lite and a PSP. I play my DS Lite every day. Apart from a couple of months of non-stop GTA: Liberty/Vice City Stories addiction, my PSP collects dust. I even play my Game Boy Micro a huge amount more than my PSP, the games are just in a different league.
I have around 30 DS games, 35 GBA games and 5 PSP games. I have to admit that there are a few PSP games on the horizon that I am getting excited about; Castlevania, God of War and a few others, but there are still many more DS games I am anticipating.
My opinion is that the PSP is just a compromised home console, crushed into a small space, sacrificing many things, but the Game Boy Micro and the DS Lite are not trying to be what they're not, and are just made to be fun.

As for using the stylus. I think it would be distracting having to use the stylus in the middle of a game like Mario. Where you are running a jumping and pressing the A and B buttons but then have to stop in the middle to use the stylus.

Obviously, game developers realised this early on, so therefore it doesn't happen. Any games where you use both the buttons and the touch screen, you can normally just use your fingers for the touch screen. And the stylus on the DS Lite is noticeably bigger than the original DS stylus, which is probably the only one you've tried.

student_trap
May 31, 2007, 05:46 PM
i can't really compare the ds with the psp, as i haven't played one, but i had this choice a couple of weeks ago, and wen't for the ds. in the end, it was the loading times that did it, plus the fact that as my gf has one too, we can play together really easily! So far i am really chuffed with it, i have new super mario bros, which is excellent, if a little short; the hasbro collection, because i love monopoly; metroid prime hunters, which is a really absorbing game, especially for a handheld; and tetris ds, a game that i literally can't put down!

the ds seems more durable to me, its cheap, and the games are a real laugh (especially multiplayer), so i am chuffed with it. i'm sure the psp is great too, but i just can't see the point of loading times...i like to be able to pick the thing up and play for a few minutes, not wait for ages to simply play a game!

GFLPraxis
May 31, 2007, 08:31 PM
As for using the stylus. I think it would be distracting having to use the stylus in the middle of a game like Mario. Where you are running a jumping and pressing the A and B buttons but then have to stop in the middle to use the stylus.

But...that never happens.

In Mario 64 DS, you choose to play entirely using the stylus, or entirely using the D-pad.

In New Super Mario Bros, you play entirely using the buttons.

In Metroid, you choose to play entirely using the stylus, or entirely using the buttons (and the stylus works so, so much better for FPS).




And considering my 5 games for my PSP.... Dust collecting is hardly the term I'd use either.

Ah, but...I never used the term Dust Collecting. You did. :P

LethalWolfe
May 31, 2007, 09:04 PM
Unless there are games you specifically want that are PSP only my vote is for the DS as well. I own a DS (and occasionally play a PSP at work) and I enjoy the DS games more. As others have stated the PSP tries to be a "mini" console and it doesn't pull it off well, IMO (jack of all trades, master of none). Many of the games feel watered-down or hamstrung by the limitations of the PSP. On the other hand, the DS typically offers purpose built games that are designed to be played handheld, on the go, in short bursts, and w/the stylus so that's why I think the games are usually better (again, IMO).


Lethal

12991
May 31, 2007, 09:07 PM
You guys have me so confused. The reason why i sold the PSP then was because then the games sucked. Recently the games have imporved. They both look like appealing systems now, and i dont think i can make a bad decision. I think i may go treat my self to a ds lite this weekend though, only because i havent tried it yet.

Maybe ill buy both, because i am gangster like that.

Dagless
May 31, 2007, 09:55 PM
I tried to be gangster, but I think I tried too soon. The PSP literally had nothing when I bought mine.

If you want to demo a DS to see what it can do in terms of innovative gameplay and even the kind of graphics it can produce-

Metroid Prime Hunters - combines quite good graphics (a step above PS1 in any case), and the first usable FPS control method for a handheld. It's a bit of a triumph in any case. Just utterly spoiled by hackers.
Kirby Canvas Curse- something entirely new. It only uses the touchscreen and works really well. Very frantic too.
Advance Wars, Pokemon, Tetris or Meteos- to see how addictive games can be.

I'd even say Nintendogs. Revitalised the virtual pet sim for me did that. Lost in Blue uses the DS in some strange ways! Brain Age too. Can't forget Brain Age. It's got it all.

sixstorm
May 31, 2007, 10:13 PM
I owned a DS Lite last summer and sold it in about a month. The games were fun but besides the games, there wasn't anything else to do. I'm about to buy a PSP and play around with it's capabilities.

12991
May 31, 2007, 10:18 PM
I owned a DS Lite last summer and sold it in about a month. The games were fun but besides the games, there wasn't anything else to do. I'm about to buy a PSP and play around with it's capabilities.

if you want to play around with capabilities, why are you buying gaming systems, id recommend a dell axim instead

Oh, and i think ill be buying a DS lite tomorrow

asxtb
Jun 1, 2007, 05:28 AM
But...that never happens.
Except for the games that I see people playing where they are holding the stylus because they have to use it with the A and B buttons.

(and the stylus works so, so much better for FPS).Not really sure how this works, but for some reason I keep thinking 'whack-a-mole' :D

Ah, but...I never used the term Dust Collecting. You did. :P Yes, I did. Jokingly in a post that wasn't even directed at you. And I wasn't the first person to even use the term 'Dust Collecting'. :P

Dagless
Jun 1, 2007, 06:12 AM
Except for the games that I see people playing where they are holding the stylus because they have to use it with the A and B buttons.

*looks through own collection* Nope, nothing there that uses the stylus and face buttons together.

Oh wait, there are games like Nanostray, Mario and Tony Hawk that use the screen to hold extra buttons. Is this what you mean? Because you just "touch" the touchscreen. You don't use a stylus to draw anything or move something around.
Devs know this and there isn't a game I can think of that uses both. Games-
-Use the touchscreen for extra buttons, along with the d-pad and face buttons. (The 3 I mentioned above)
-Use the touchscreen as an alternative method of control, achieving the same result (Animal Crossing)
-Disregard either the touchscreen or face buttons alltogether, for traditional or new types of games.
-(late edit) touchscreen only used for menu navigation or mini games.

there is no hot swopping ;)

asxtb
Jun 1, 2007, 07:04 AM
Oh wait, there are games like Nanostray, Mario and Tony Hawk that use the screen to hold extra buttons. Is this what you mean? Because you just "touch" the touchscreen. You don't use a stylus to draw anything or move something around.Could be. But like I said, I've seen people with their thumbs on the A and B buttons with they stylus in their hand. Maybe they just like the feeling. :eek:

Tom B.
Jun 1, 2007, 09:40 AM
To anyone interested, on the 23rd of June, 2 new colours of DS Lite are being released in Japan. If you don't mind importing, www.ncsx.com and www.play-asia.com are sure to have some.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.dsfanboy.com/media/2007/05/dscolors0530071.jpg
http://media.arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.media/DSnewjapan.jpg

Nintendo Japan (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/lite/color/index.html)

Dagless
Jun 1, 2007, 09:53 AM
As someone who has never been interested in the colour pink before - I want that Metallic Rose DS :eek: It's a bit awesome

ReanimationLP
Jun 1, 2007, 10:02 AM
I've had both, and I have enjoyed my PSP a lot more.

Sure, some of the games are ports, but there is some neat games coming down the pipeline.

Another great thing about it is if you get the Open Edition Firmware done by Dark-Alex installed onto it.

I did that, then used PopStation to rip Castlevania Symphony of the Night into being playable on my PSP.

The graphics look beautiful and sharp on the screen, and man, is that game friggin' awesome.

FleurDuMal
Jun 3, 2007, 08:00 PM
Actually, I've been reading around the emulation possibilities of the PSP and, to be honest, I'm very very tempted to splash out on one now. The possiblity to play the whole library of PS1 games sounds quite incredible, as well as Mega Drive (genesis), Master System, Snes, NES, Gameboy, MAME and other games sounds, well, brilliant.

Who needs a 360 or PS3. It looks like a DS and PSP will suit me fine. :D

A Pittarelli
Jun 3, 2007, 08:03 PM
the psp ps3 intergration is pretty awesome as a side note

12991
Jun 4, 2007, 04:49 PM
Ummm... wow, just got my black ds today. In a word, "amazing"

Its really entertaining, graphics are better than expected, way better than PSP atleast PSP a year ago. PSP homebrew IMO is not worth it. The only classic games I enjoy are genesis and NES which the DS can do. DS actually has great homebrew as well. DS is fantastic, I would also get a PSP, but the whole reason of buying a DS and selling my 360 was to play less video games, and if i get both, ill end up playing more. But i love my DS and my R4DS...

Thanks for the help

mduser63
Jun 4, 2007, 06:49 PM
Ummm... wow, just got my black ds today. In a word, "amazing"

Its really entertaining, graphics are better than expected, way better than PSP atleast PSP a year ago. PSP homebrew IMO is not worth it. The only classic games I enjoy are genesis and NES which the DS can do. DS actually has great homebrew as well. DS is fantastic, I would also get a PSP, but the whole reason of buying a DS and selling my 360 was to play less video games, and if i get both, ill end up playing more. But i love my DS and my R4DS...

Thanks for the help

I'm enjoying my new DS a lot too, although so far I'd still stick with the PSP if I could only have one of the two. That might change as I get more games for the DS. As for the DS having better graphics than the PSP, I think you're not remembering right. I don't think anyone would seriously argue that the DS is more powerful graphically than the PSP. It'd be a bit like arguing that the Wii has better graphics than the PS3...

Dagless
Jun 4, 2007, 07:19 PM
I was bowled over by the black DS Lite too. Incredibly beautiful machine, but the fingerprint issue bugged me, plus the dpad was broke so I replaced it for the white one. THEN Caroline goes and buys the black model and I'm all jealous again :D

And don't go pirating games with that R4 :p no really. Back when I had a chipped PS1 I found just piracy really sucked all the fun out of getting excited and waiting for a game. Maybe it's just me and my industry :D but have fun. always have fun.

GFLPraxis
Jun 4, 2007, 09:35 PM
I'm enjoying my new DS a lot too, although so far I'd still stick with the PSP if I could only have one of the two. That might change as I get more games for the DS. As for the DS having better graphics than the PSP, I think you're not remembering right. I don't think anyone would seriously argue that the DS is more powerful graphically than the PSP. It'd be a bit like arguing that the Wii has better graphics than the PS3...

One could make the argument that the DS Lite's screen is more vibrant/colorful, and that might fool one into thinking the graphics were better. I dunno.

But yeah, PSP graphics are far more detailed and higher res, no doubt. I just prefer my DS's library of games.

GFLPraxis
Jun 4, 2007, 09:42 PM
I was bowled over by the black DS Lite too. Incredibly beautiful machine, but the fingerprint issue bugged me, plus the dpad was broke so I replaced it for the white one. THEN Caroline goes and buys the black model and I'm all jealous again :D

And don't go pirating games with that R4 :p no really. Back when I had a chipped PS1 I found just piracy really sucked all the fun out of getting excited and waiting for a game. Maybe it's just me and my industry :D but have fun. always have fun.

I've been quite impressed on the state of emulation on my M3 though. And there's quite a good amount of decent homebrew out there, and videos convert well and MP3's play fine. Plenty of non-pirate stuff you can do.

sixstorm
Jun 4, 2007, 09:44 PM
One thing that appeals to me about the PSP over the DS is just the 16:9 widescreen display. Full-screen is the suXXX000rrrrSSSS!!!!!

Tom B.
Jun 5, 2007, 06:20 AM
One thing that appeals to me about the PSP over the DS is just the 16:9 widescreen display. Full-screen is the suXXX000rrrrSSSS!!!!!

But when you put the 2 DS screens together, you have even more of a wide screen that the PSP! Take that!

FleurDuMal
Jun 5, 2007, 06:27 AM
Ummm... wow, just got my black ds today. In a word, "amazing"

Its really entertaining, graphics are better than expected, way better than PSP atleast PSP a year ago. PSP homebrew IMO is not worth it. The only classic games I enjoy are genesis and NES which the DS can do. DS actually has great homebrew as well. DS is fantastic, I would also get a PSP, but the whole reason of buying a DS and selling my 360 was to play less video games, and if i get both, ill end up playing more. But i love my DS and my R4DS...

Thanks for the help

Can the DS emulate Genesis and NES/SNes? OK, I'm sure it's powerfuly enough, but has anyone found a way of doing it on a DS? Most of the best back catalogue of the Nintendo systems is available on either DS or GBA now I guess, but I'm still curious as all I've ever heard about is PSP homebrew/emulation. :confused:

Igantius
Jun 5, 2007, 06:38 AM
Can the DS emulate Genesis and NES/SNes? OK, I'm sure it's powerfuly enough, but has anyone found a way of doing it on a DS? Most of the best back catalogue of the Nintendo systems is available on either DS or GBA now I guess, but I'm still curious as all I've ever heard about is PSP homebrew/emulation. :confused:

Yes, it can emulate both – you’ll need a booting tool like FlashMe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS_homebrew isn’t bad place to start looking…

BTW (I can’t comment on the Genesis/Megadrive games) but the S/NES work well largely – not all do though.

PSP homebrew IMO is not worth it. The only classic games I enjoy are genesis and NES which the DS can do. DS actually has great homebrew as well.
Each to their own opinion :p

But yes, the DS homebrew is great.

Dagless
Jun 5, 2007, 07:23 AM
I've been quite impressed on the state of emulation on my M3 though. And there's quite a good amount of decent homebrew out there, and videos convert well and MP3's play fine. Plenty of non-pirate stuff you can do.

Oh definitely. I use my M3 for dumping my games so I always have my collection with me, oh and sometimes for cheating :D but never in Metroid. Hackers have almost ruined that. It's like Counter Strike before Source was released. BeOS DS is fantastic. Along with that Pop3 email program.

NES works fine. SNES is horrendous. Mega Drive I don't know. I keep my NES and GB games on my M3 Simply on my GBA Micro. Can't fault it.

GBA is widescreen ;) or 16:10 I believe. I even bought a 16:10 monitor because 16:9 is too narrow for me. Ironically I bought a PSP for homebrew and a DS for proper games, but when it came to the crunch the PSP had to be downgraded which meant a complicated and bastardised method of tricking the system into playing games that required updating. The DS only needs a Passcard which can be had for next to nothing these days and although you do have to pay - it's a hassle free way to get homebrew.

12991
Jun 5, 2007, 03:52 PM
R4DS, Just one thing that sits flush into the DS slot, has a micro sd card slot. Flawless. Does everything too

Oh, and im not saying PSP is bad, its great... i think i may get one as well. Ill see how the DS goes though. Thanks for the help

Coded-Dude
Jun 5, 2007, 04:27 PM
ROLFL............:p

Screen Size:
PSP - 4.3 inch LCD - 16:9 ratio
DS - Two 3 inch LCDs - 4:3 ratio

Screen Resolution:
PSP - 480 x 272 pixels
DS - 256 x 192 pixels

Colors:
PSP - 16,800,000
DS - 260,000

"While the DS does 3D pretty well and has enough juice to put out decent graphics, the PSP is basically a PS2 in a smaller package. Nintendo has never really been able to put out a handheld that can make games look equivalent to a current console, but Sony went above and beyond, giving the PSP enough oomph to really shine."


NOW.........DS homebrew is probably a little easier, but I had both and before 3.0 f/w, the PSP Homebrew was much father along(it still is farther, just not as much) and had more documented support. While there are still "advancements" being made, it would appear the DS has made some rather large leaps itself(more so than PSP). If I had 2 PSP's I'd still be into the HomeBrew, but I gave that up for the sake of Beta testing and PS3 interoperability.

jsw
Jun 5, 2007, 05:44 PM
Re: all the posts I just deleted:

Let it go, people. Let it go or find yourselves with more time to play games.

GFLPraxis
Jun 5, 2007, 05:47 PM
Can the DS emulate Genesis and NES/SNes? OK, I'm sure it's powerfuly enough, but has anyone found a way of doing it on a DS? Most of the best back catalogue of the Nintendo systems is available on either DS or GBA now I guess, but I'm still curious as all I've ever heard about is PSP homebrew/emulation. :confused:

I'm doing it now.

SNES emulation works spectacularly, though there are some sprite bugs sometimes. Genesis has no sound and the framerate isn't always perfect, but no sprite bugs and everything looks perfect. Everything is still WIP.

The only reason you hear more of PSP emulation is that you have to buy extra equipment for DS.


Oh definitely. I use my M3 for dumping my games so I always have my collection with me, oh and sometimes for cheating

I hacked my Mario Kart so I can select the single-player-only stages when playing online. I wish the game had voice chat so I could hear people's reaction.


NES works fine. SNES is horrendous.

What emulator are you using? The new version of SNEmulDS just came out, and it's amazing. Even Donkey Kong Country runs playably. Just don't use the savestate function. I've been working my way through Super Mario World today.

There are some sprite glitches where things that are supposed to be behind things are in front though.


"While the DS does 3D pretty well and has enough juice to put out decent graphics, the PSP is basically a PS2 in a smaller package. Nintendo has never really been able to put out a handheld that can make games look equivalent to a current console, but Sony went above and beyond, giving the PSP enough oomph to really shine."


You make it sound like Nintendo failed to do this. Nintendo never tried; *every* Nintendo handheld system was sold at a $99 price point, the DS was the most expensive Nintendo handheld at $149.

Sony launched a $250 handheld selling at a loss, originally estimated to sell for $300.

Essentially, Sony made a handheld 2-3 times more expensive than anything Nintendo had previously tried to market. NO DUH it had better graphics.

Sony also succeeded in making a handheld with a battery life barely better than a console, too ;)

They're really just different systems. One is designed to be a portable console (with all the disadvantages that comes with), the other is designed to play mobile games, designed specifically for picking-up-and-playing.

Coded-Dude
Jun 6, 2007, 10:13 AM
^Thats exactly why I chuckled and replied in the manner I did.
Anybody who can't see that isn't informed enough, or making a largely biased statement.

You also stated the reason I avoided DS homebrew. Its not like you could walk into any store and buy the hardware required. Plus, once you do......it still requires a little work(just like the PSP). Plus I read PSP had VNC capabilities, which is awesome! :D Anywho, like I said, they are both getting great HomeBrew support now, so its seeming like features and software titles are the main points of sale(for a consumer). We all know our opinions on that matter vary. :p

Dagless
Jun 6, 2007, 11:32 AM
Out of curiosity, what "little work like the PSP" is required?

I know you like the PSP and all, but all you do is drag & drop a rom or application or utility onto a memory card and an M3 will run it. Or is inserting a MicroSD card the "little work" you meant ;)

Praxis- Last time I tried playing Mario Kart I had serious layer issues. Mario World was the worst, you had to toggle through layers for certain levels. I should probably give it another go.

Coded-Dude
Jun 6, 2007, 12:10 PM
Please take notice that when I did this there was no downgrader yet, HomeBrew was merely available.
Now you have to use downgraders to get to s a certain f/w, but liek I said....at the time I was already there.

All I had to do was download the rom's/emulators create a folder or two and drag-n-drop. ;)

Yes it was that easy........

I was talking about the DS/PSP, not the M3, I have no firsthand experience/knowledge of the M3, so I cannot speculate.

amtctt
Jun 6, 2007, 01:39 PM
here's my 2 cents, i've always been a playstation guy, but i would go with the DS. I have a PS3 so i can play all the playstation type games on there, but the DS is nice because it's different. lots of different types of gaming which is nice to get away from the PS style of games. love the brain games and stuff, plus it's kind of nice to play some games against others without them having to have a copy of the game to, like with Mario Kart and in July another Worms game will be out.

GFLPraxis
Jun 6, 2007, 03:22 PM
Out of curiosity, what "little work like the PSP" is required?

I know you like the PSP and all, but all you do is drag & drop a rom or application or utility onto a memory card and an M3 will run it. Or is inserting a MicroSD card the "little work" you meant ;)

Praxis- Last time I tried playing Mario Kart I had serious layer issues. Mario World was the worst, you had to toggle through layers for certain levels. I should probably give it another go.

I haven't played Mario Kart; I meant I hacked Mario Kart DS to play the locked levels in multiplayer.

Which emulator were you using though? SNESDS and all the others pretty much suck.

SNEmuDS 0.5 works pretty well, but sprite bugs do happen a lot. They're USUALLY small. In Super Mario World, the menu and overworld appear totally messed up, but once you actually get in the game, everything looks great.

Super Mario Bros: The Lost Levels has been really fun. I'd forgotten how sadistically difficult that game is. I think they hired Satan as the level designer. It runs almost PERFECTLY, the only two bugs I've noticed is that the stats at the top of the screen can be hidden by blocks (meh, who cares?) and after you die when it shows what level you're on the text is missing.

GFLPraxis
Jun 6, 2007, 03:24 PM
Please take notice that when I did this there was no downgrader yet, HomeBrew was merely available.
Now you have to use downgraders to get to s a certain f/w, but liek I said....at the time I was already there.

All I had to do was download the rom's/emulators create a folder or two and drag-n-drop. ;)

Yes it was that easy........

I was talking about the DS/PSP, not the M3, I have no firsthand experience/knowledge of the M3, so I cannot speculate.

Yeah, nowadays on the PSP you have to reflash the firmware to run homebrew and reflash it again to play legit games. Yuck.

DS homebrew has gotten a lot better; before you needed to either flash the firmware or stick a passme in the top slot, then stick the M3 in the bottom...these days you can buy an M3 Simply or an R4 that goes in the top slot.

Just buy the device for $45, stick a Micro SD card in there with your homebrew apps, and start playing.