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illumin8
Jul 2, 2003, 03:36 AM
I just placed the order for my dual 2.0 ghz. G5 and I can't wait until September... :D

Anyway, I just thought I would post what my setup will be like in my office after it arrives, and I was wondering what other's setups will be like as well:

Computers:

Dual 2.0 Ghz. PowerMac G5
4GB PC3200 RAM
2x 120GB SATA 8MB cache hard drives
4x Superdrive
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
Logitech Cordless MX Duo (black/silver)


Dell Dimension 8300 P4 2.6-C (800 mhz. FSB, Hyperthreading)
2GB PC3200 RAM
2x 120GB ATA133 8MB cache hard drives
Pioneer 4x DVD-R (DVR-105)
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
Logitech Cordless MX Duo (black/silver)

Displays:

2x Dell 1900FP 19" 1280x1024 flat panels.
One connected to each computer.
Secondary VGA cable on each monitor cross-connected to other computer.
This is the neatest thing... it allows me to use both displays side by side (extended desktop support) with either computer if I want to, or use one on each computer.


Other accessories:


30GB iPod
Kodak CX4320 digital camera
Tascam US-428 USB sound card
Klipsch Promedia GMX D-5.1 speakers
One really wide desk to fit it all on


Total price for everything: Less than $6000...

I think on the displays is where I really saved money... Sure, it's not a 23" Cinema display, but stick two high quality 19" 1280x1024 flat panels next to each other and now you've got basically an inexpensive plasma display in your office.

What setup will you guys have when your G5 gets here?

akushlan
Jul 2, 2003, 04:04 AM
Dual 2.0 Ghz. PowerMac G5
8GB PC3200 RAM
2x 250GB SATA 8MB cache hard drives
4x Superdrive
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
Apple Keyboard/Mouse

17" PowerBook
1GB RAM
60GB Hard Drive
SuperDrive

14" 900 MHz iBook
640MB RAM
60 GB Hard Drive
Combo Drive

Alienware Area-51
3.2 GHz P4 w/ 800MHz FSB
2 GB RAM
2 x 200 GB Hard Drive
DVD Burner
Combo Drive
etc.

30GB iPod
2 x 23" Cinema Display
AEBS
other cool stuff

edesignuk
Jul 2, 2003, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by akushlan
Dual 2.0 Ghz. PowerMac G5
8GB PC3200 RAM
2x 250GB SATA 8MB cache hard drives
4x Superdrive
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
Apple Keyboard/Mouse

17" PowerBook
1GB RAM
60GB Hard Drive
SuperDrive

14" 900 MHz iBook
640MB RAM
60 GB Hard Drive
Combo Drive

Alienware Area-51
3.2 GHz P4 w/ 800MHz FSB
2 GB RAM
2 x 200 GB Hard Drive
DVD Burner
Combo Drive
etc.

30GB iPod
2 x 23" Cinema Display
AEBS
other cool stuff
WOW! You must have spent a ***** load in the last month or two on that little lot! It's all the latest stuff! ...so jealous...

edit: OMG! That New PM w/ 2 x 23" displays is a $11,500+ system, sweet jesus!

akushlan
Jul 2, 2003, 09:15 AM
I just have connections!!

Alte22a
Jul 2, 2003, 09:38 AM
We're hoping to get 4 of those Dual 2Ghz babies in the standard setup. With 2 of them connected to a pair of mitsubishi 19" CRT pro monitors and the other 2 connected to 22" CRT mitsubishi or Lacie. Then we'll think about memory arrangements and stuff. Now we're just pondering over the idea of Xraid for one of the machines. Seems expensive, since Fire800 can offer a cheaper alternative. Anyhow we are still contemplating since we are hoping to shell out round about Xmas time.:D Well we see how things work out.

illumin8
Jul 2, 2003, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by akushlan
Dual 2.0 Ghz. PowerMac G5
8GB PC3200 RAM

Wow, you're going with the full 8GB... nice. I decided to go with 4GB because the 4GB only cost me $584, but the 8GB would have cost me $3750 from Apple's site.

illumin8
Jul 2, 2003, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by akushlan
I just have connections!!
Hey, if you'd ever like to hook a brother up... Just let me know. :D

Makosuke
Jul 2, 2003, 02:38 PM
Wish I had the money to deck a system out like that. I'm going to be spending as much as I can scrounge up, though. With any luck:

Dual 2Ghz G5
Radeon 9800
17" LCD (Apple? Depends on upgrades)
19" KDS Trinitron CRT
2GB RAM (4 if I can afford it)
1 WD Raptor 10K RPM SATA HD (boot)
1 250GB 8MB SATA HD (whatever Apple ships)
80+120GB 7200RPM drives in a dual-drive FW400 case
Logitech MX500 mouse.

I'm as excited about anything by the SATA, since my HDs are usually the bottleneck in my work. 36GB Raptor, here I come! I just hope Apple drops the price on the current 17" LCD or ships an upgrade (preferably both), since I'd hate to have to go with another brand, but I'm relatively poor, so it'll be a stretch to justify one.

Say, the new Radeon cards still support dual VGA/ADC out, don't they?

Pete_Hoover
Jul 2, 2003, 03:15 PM
I don't have a mac(can't afford one because I can't get a job because I am too young). So here is how my setup will look:

1.3 GHz P4
512 MB RAM
WIn XP Home
CDRW/DVD Drive
40GB HD
17" Dell Monitor

Not the best, but it works. Sort of.

hvfsl
Jul 2, 2003, 03:30 PM
I can beat most of you, except for the G5 Mac:

- AMD 2500XP, Radeon 8500, Win2000pro, 19in and 15in CRT screen
- AMD 1700XP, Geforce 3Ti, Win2000pro, 15in CRT screen
- AMD 1300, AllinWonder Radeon, Win2000pro, 15in CRT screen
- AMD 1200, Radeon 7200, Win2000pro, 15in CRT screen
- AMD 800, SIS315e, Win98se, 26in TV screen
- P3 450, SIS730, Win98se, 14in CRT screen
- AMD 350, SIS730, Win98se, 14in CRT screen

- PowerBook G3 233
- PowerBook G4 550
- Performa 6200, 13in CRT screen
- iMac G3 500

- Nintendo GameCube
- Nintendo 64
- Sega Dreamcast (all connected to 30in CRT screen)

I will have to get a job before I get anymore computers now since most of the computers I have were paid for by the gov because I am dyslexic.

illumin8
Jul 2, 2003, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Makosuke
Say, the new Radeon cards still support dual VGA/ADC out, don't they?
Yes, they do support dual output, with both an ADC and a VGA connector.

QCassidy352
Jul 2, 2003, 04:57 PM
good lord, you people have got sickening amounts of computer goodies. :) And to think I make do with just a 900 mhz ibook 14" 640 RAM... my only computer. ;) Nice set ups guys!

zarathustra
Jul 2, 2003, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by hvfsl
I can beat most of you, except for the G5 Mac:

- AMD 2500XP, Radeon 8500, Win2000pro, 19in and 15in CRT screen
- AMD 1700XP, Geforce 3Ti, Win2000pro, 15in CRT screen
- AMD 1300, AllinWonder Radeon, Win2000pro, 15in CRT screen
- AMD 1200, Radeon 7200, Win2000pro, 15in CRT screen
- AMD 800, SIS315e, Win98se, 26in TV screen
- P3 450, SIS730, Win98se, 14in CRT screen
- AMD 350, SIS730, Win98se, 14in CRT screen

- PowerBook G3 233
- PowerBook G4 550
- Performa 6200, 13in CRT screen
- iMac G3 500

- Nintendo GameCube
- Nintendo 64
- Sega Dreamcast (all connected to 30in CRT screen)

I will have to get a job before I get anymore computers now since most of the computers I have were paid for by the gov because I am dyslexic.

Whaaaaa? So the gov't in the UK pays for Nintendos and all those computers? Hard to believe... :rolleyes:

I somehow have a hard time believing that akushlan has/will have that setup... I picture a teenager typing away on a P3 inherited from his dad, pretending to "have connections". Whatever. Keep the economy going akushlan; I certainly hope that you indeed purchased all those items.

tazo
Jul 2, 2003, 05:54 PM
imac 600 g3
384mb ram

:(

no g5 thats for sure.

applemacdude
Jul 2, 2003, 06:56 PM
375mhz G3 Minitower
320 Mb's Of RAM

Not a G5 either...:(

wirewyrm
Jul 2, 2003, 07:21 PM
I currently have a G4 400, 10+60Gb HDD's Combo Drive, 768mb RAM,

on order is...

PowerMac G5 1.8Ghz
512mb RAM
160Gb HDD
Combo Drive
Bluetooth Module Built-in
nVidia GeForce fx5200

I also have ordered...

Samsung 152T Digital 15" TFT
2 10" Cold-Cathodes, Blue (To pretty up that ugly case)

I already have...

1st Gen 10Gb iPod
JBL Creature Speakers (White)
MS Intellimouse Explorer

Still to be ordered (With more Cash!!!)

Radeon 9800pro Retail (or best card on the market when I come to buy)
Pioneer A06 DVD-R/+RW Drive

Other assorted items for my setup....

Handspring Visor Prism
HP318 Digital Camera

Girlfriend has an iBook 500 CDROM w/384mb RAM

akushlan
Jul 3, 2003, 09:37 AM
My only connections are some family friends who are higher ups at apple, so they provide massive discounts. Sorry can't reveal names!!!

Anticipat3
Jul 3, 2003, 10:35 AM
Hot Damn! I feel like I'm on the low end now :)

Computer:
Powermac G5 Dual 2.0 Ghz
1 Gig RAM
Radeon 9600 Pro
250GB SATA Hard Drive
Superdrive
Logitech MX700 Mouse
Microsoft Ergonomic Wireless Black Keyboard (PLEASE MAKE ME A BLUETOOTH ONE APPLE)

Displays:
Samsung Syncmaster 172T Flat Panel
24" Sony WEGA TV (for the Movies)

Others:
10 Gig 3G iPod
Logitech Z560 400w Speakers (anyone know about getting 4 Channels out of a Mac?)
Canon Powershot S200 Digital Camera
Canon Elura 50 DV Camcorder (incoming)

Planned upgrades:
Another gig of RAM in a few months
Next Generation video card from ATI (R420)

I'm in a dorm room, so dual displays is out, unfortunately -- no room!

Zenith
Jul 3, 2003, 10:43 AM
I'm going for a dual, but considering I'm only a student it has to be stripped... It's not too bad being a student and could afford the high-end G5. But again, I also have some connections, so the price will be reasonable. I'll also use the G5 for work, and I think that buying a dual 2 gig now will make it last longer than a single G5 - seen from a graphics proffesional's perspective.

Here's what my setup will look like:
(notice the well-placed smileys...)

PowerMac G5 dual 2 Ghz :D
512 MB RAM (will add more later)
160 GB
Combo Drive
ATi Radeon 9600 Pro
ViewSonic G90f 19"

Extras:
Wacom Graphire 2
Palm m505 with 64 MB SD card
Edirol USB MIDI interface (1 I/O)
Korg Triton Workstation :D
Motorola T720

And that's about it. I actually want a new screen too, but there's no rush for that at the moment.

evil
Jul 3, 2003, 11:36 AM
i KNEW i didnt want to read this thread.
it depresses me.

Moxiemike
Jul 3, 2003, 11:37 AM
all i've gotta say is:

"my c0ck is bigger than your c0ck"

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Who cares about what system you have... the question is, will you be PRODUCTIVE on it. ;)

Alte22a
Jul 3, 2003, 12:08 PM
Productive!!

Hell yes thats why we have more ram, faster processors. We spend more money so that it increases productivity right? I mean back in the days when you would render a video it would take alsolutely hours and during that time you would sit there and look at you power mac. Now the G5 has arrived who really cares what it looks like. ITS FAST!! there is no time to look at it, just work!! :D

Productivity!! thats what its all about..

Moxiemike
Jul 3, 2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Alte22a
Productive!!

Hell yes thats why we have more ram, faster processors. We spend more money so that it increases productivity right? I mean back in the days when you would render a video it would take alsolutely hours and during that time you would sit there and look at you power mac. Now the G5 has arrived who really cares what it looks like. ITS FAST!! there is no time to look at it, just work!! :D

Productivity!! thats what its all about..

but remember, it's just a tool. who cares if you can render video quickly if your video sucks arse. :)

jelloshotsrule
Jul 3, 2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
but remember, it's just a tool. who cares if you can render video quickly if your video sucks arse. :)


no computer has bandwidth capable of processing my creative genius in realtime.

Moxiemike
Jul 3, 2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
no computer has bandwidth capable of processing my creative genius in realtime.

hehe. you're too frickin' much man.

Alte22a
Jul 3, 2003, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
but remember, it's just a tool. who cares if you can render video quickly if your video sucks arse. :)

True very true, like my teachers use to say "You cant make ***** shine". True but having such monsters of a computer it takes alot of time out of the equation. Plus if your making **** movies anyway where does one get the money to buy such equipment in the first place? But then again I've seen some really ***** work done by pros on good equipment.

jelloshotsrule
Jul 3, 2003, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by Alte22a
True very true, like my teachers use to say "You cant make ***** shine". True but having such monsters of a computer it takes alot of time out of the equation. Plus if your making **** movies anyway where does one get the money to buy such equipment in the first place? But then again I've seen some really ***** work done by pros on good equipment.

hah, you answered your own question.

not to mention, some people earn money independently of their computers (hard to believe) and so can use that $$ to buy computers which will help them make their **** much faster... ;)

Makosuke
Jul 3, 2003, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
all i've gotta say is:

"my c0ck is bigger than your c0ck"

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Who cares about what system you have... the question is, will you be PRODUCTIVE on it. ;) Sure, this is a ***** envy contest for some people, but I and I'm sure others enjoy seeing what sort of setup other Mac users really have or will get, not what their dream system is. Once you factor price and the real world in, the compromises are where most of us end up, and I like seeing where people think it's worth spending the money.

For example, there aren't many of us claiming a 23" cinema display, since for most a 17" LCD or 19" CRT is enough, and we can't afford thousands for the bragging rights.

Right now, I'm happy with my DP533 and 19" CRT--it's served me well, and could easily continue to do so for another 2 or 3 years if I wanted, and I would hardly be embarassed about it. But, now seems like a good time to buy, so I'll probably go as all out as I can manage and then enjoy it. And yes, the extra speed will make me more productive.

ZildjianKX
Jul 3, 2003, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Anticipat3
Displays:
Samsung Syncmaster 172T Flat Panel

I just bought two 172T silver Flat Panels the other day... freak'n great LCDs. 60% of the cost of an Apple LCD, slightly sharper image, dual input, and better warranty.

And I hope everyone knows I'll be buying your $10K systems a year from now for $2K

XnavxeMiyyep
Jul 3, 2003, 04:54 PM
I'll have my current Dual 867 G4 with a Superdrive and 19" CRT monitor, and hopefully a 1.6 GHz G5 if my parents let me buy it(I plan on using the $50 a month payment plan).

Moxiemike
Jul 3, 2003, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Alte22a
True very true, like my teachers use to say "You cant make ***** shine". True but having such monsters of a computer it takes alot of time out of the equation. Plus if your making **** movies anyway where does one get the money to buy such equipment in the first place? But then again I've seen some really ***** work done by pros on good equipment.

You'd be surprised at what i;ve seen. Some of the crappiest designers I know use the best equipment.

One of my favorite photographers, a friend of mine's mom, uses disposable cameras.

And her photos got into an arts fest as an emerging artist. And yet, I know some people who are professionals who have 40k equipment set ups who take crappy pictures.

A friend of mine got a bunch of his paintings copied by a large imaging house here in town. He paid 80 bucks per shot, for about 20 paintings and the images were CRAP. Noisy, one was blurry, I had to spend tons of time in PS post processing these, which was supposedly included....

So yea. You can have the best equipment but your can not be worth a crap.

Or you can shoot award winning Scottish landscapes on a disposable, printed at Wal Mart and have a brilliant amazing shot. ;)

So good luck with your g5's. Or your super g4 systems. Or whatever.

I'll let my skills speak for themselves. I could outdesign a lot of people using g5's with only a Mac II, Pagemaker 2 and Illustrator 88. You know why? I have the best computer around, and I know how to use it- My mind. :)

;)

XnavxeMiyyep
Jul 3, 2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
You'd be surprised at what i;ve seen. Some of the crappiest designers I know use the best equipment.

One of my favorite photographers, a friend of mine's mom, uses disposable cameras.

And her photos got into an arts fest as an emerging artist. And yet, I know some people who are professionals who have 40k equipment set ups who take crappy pictures.

A friend of mine got a bunch of his paintings copied by a large imaging house here in town. He paid 80 bucks per shot, for about 20 paintings and the images were CRAP. Noisy, one was blurry, I had to spend tons of time in PS post processing these, which was supposedly included....

So yea. You can have the best equipment but your can not be worth a crap.

Or you can shoot award winning Scottish landscapes on a disposable, printed at Wal Mart and have a brilliant amazing shot. ;)

So good luck with your g5's. Or your super g4 systems. Or whatever.

I'll let my skills speak for themselves. I could outdesign a lot of people using g5's with only a Mac II, Pagemaker 2 and Illustrator 88. You know why? I have the best computer around, and I know how to use it- My mind. :)

;)
I agree with you on that, I know someone who makes films using Avid on a 9600.

Zenith
Jul 3, 2003, 05:43 PM
Well, if this was a "my c0ck is bigger than your's" thread, it's really not getting anywhere. Saying that "I'm smarter than you" or "I'm more creative" is just the same thing as bragging with equipment. What I believe is most important is that everything is good enough for YOU. It's all about personality and individuality. Not about comparison. As long as you've got equipment you're happy with, then fine, and if you're making ******* products and earn a lot of money then OK, who's judging the products anyway? I'm quite sure every productive person makes as good products as possible based on the knowledge and creativity they've got. Saying that something is crappy is just another way to compare and judge without reason. It really doesn't matter for your own good. What's good, on the other hand, is to observe and experience and then base your own skills and knowledge on the positive impressions. I don't say "this is the way", but I'm just giving you a thought.

Alte22a
Jul 3, 2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by Makosuke
Sure, this is a ***** envy contest for some people, but I and I'm sure others enjoy seeing what sort of setup other Mac users really have or will get, not what their dream system is. Once you factor price and the real world in, the compromises are where most of us end up, and I like seeing where people think it's worth spending the money.

For example, there aren't many of us claiming a 23" cinema display, since for most a 17" LCD or 19" CRT is enough, and we can't afford thousands for the bragging rights.

I couldn't agree more. I think most of people who are shelling out this year might be looking else where for their displays, I my self included. Been using Mitsubishis for a while now and the're great for a fraction of the cost. This means that my company can spend money in other areas like a decent coffee maker :D

On a more serious note we could spend the extra cash on high quality scanners and printers etc... But its good to shout about your equipment here but the reason that I posted here is to see if my investment is worth it and hear others out on opinion on other third party equipment to accompany the G5.

illumin8
Jul 4, 2003, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Zenith
Well, if this was a "my c0ck is bigger than your's" thread, it's really not getting anywhere. Saying that "I'm smarter than you" or "I'm more creative" is just the same thing as bragging with equipment. What I believe is most important is that everything is good enough for YOU. It's all about personality and individuality. Not about comparison. As long as you've got equipment you're happy with, then fine, and if you're making ******* products and earn a lot of money then OK, who's judging the products anyway? I'm quite sure every productive person makes as good products as possible based on the knowledge and creativity they've got. Saying that something is crappy is just another way to compare and judge without reason. It really doesn't matter for your own good. What's good, on the other hand, is to observe and experience and then base your own skills and knowledge on the positive impressions. I don't say "this is the way", but I'm just giving you a thought.
Hear, hear. Some of us don't have unlimited funds to spend on computers and want to hear about how others might have saved money on certain components while still remaining productive. That's the main point of this thread anyway.

QCassidy352
Jul 4, 2003, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
You'd be surprised at what i;ve seen. Some of the crappiest designers I know use the best equipment.

One of my favorite photographers, a friend of mine's mom, uses disposable cameras.

And her photos got into an arts fest as an emerging artist. And yet, I know some people who are professionals who have 40k equipment set ups who take crappy pictures.

A friend of mine got a bunch of his paintings copied by a large imaging house here in town. He paid 80 bucks per shot, for about 20 paintings and the images were CRAP. Noisy, one was blurry, I had to spend tons of time in PS post processing these, which was supposedly included....

So yea. You can have the best equipment but your can not be worth a crap.

Or you can shoot award winning Scottish landscapes on a disposable, printed at Wal Mart and have a brilliant amazing shot. ;)

So good luck with your g5's. Or your super g4 systems. Or whatever.

I'll let my skills speak for themselves. I could outdesign a lot of people using g5's with only a Mac II, Pagemaker 2 and Illustrator 88. You know why? I have the best computer around, and I know how to use it- My mind. :)

;)

Of course, everyone knows that. But if all it takes is your mind, then why did the mac community spend the last few years bitching about how slow the pro macs were? Look, if you picked up Tiger Wood's golf clubs, you wouldn't play like him. And if he used crappy clubs, he'd still be very good. But no matter how skilled he is, he's still gonna use the best (legal) equipment available to him, and it's not just because that equipment is impressively expensive.

Abstract
Jul 4, 2003, 02:30 AM
Damn long quotes. Sometimes you can just snip out the parts of the quote that aren't relevant to your post. Just a thought. ;)

Anyway, the best part of this thread is when people mention the type of monitors people own. The setup of your Macs isn't going to vary too much, but the monitors........mmmmmm, it's just great to know that not everybody can afford (or bothers) to purchase an Apple display. Sometimes, I get the "impression" that many people around here own an Apple display when it's obviously not the case at all. Its just nice to know that we're all (or many of us) are in the same boat and suffer from the same limitations regarding income, even though it may not seem like it when things like "Cinema Displays" and other expensive gadgets and software is discussed here on such a regular basis. I think people forget that others are just "discussing" these products, and don't actually own it themselves. Impressions of seemingly "unlimited incomes" of a large number of members have been squashed.

This is a good reason for this thread, me thinks. ;)

Alte22a
Jul 4, 2003, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by QCassidy352
Of course, everyone knows that. But if all it takes is your mind, then why did the mac community spend the last few years bitching about how slow the pro macs were? Look, if you picked up Tiger Wood's golf clubs, you wouldn't play like him. And if he used crappy clubs, he'd still be very good. But no matter how skilled he is, he's still gonna use the best (legal) equipment available to him, and it's not just because that equipment is impressively expensive.

All Good equipment is expensive because of all the processes of making, researching and testing. But its always nice to own nice equipmen eh;)

But hey all the top end stuff never really flys off the shelves anyway. usually the middle model that consumers are most interested in. Even though everybody wants the all dancing all singing top notch machine, most of the buyers end up with the mid option. Look at the sales of the iPod, the 30Gigs aren't selling as well as the 15GB right even though these buyers wish for the 30Gb.

Back to topic we are all here to talk about our setups or potential setups for our G5. Everybody here wants to have the best setup possible depending on buget. So the best way to do is to listen to what other people have experience, instead of wasting time, money and effort doing it your self. we are all here and part our a minority computer users so lets all stick together. was I being a bit harsh? :rolleyes:

tazo
Jul 4, 2003, 03:19 AM
I think after a while and you have all these great products, you lose sight of what is really most important. Being a mac user.

remember the first time you opened your new mac?
I do. Everyday I think to myself, thank god my parents listened to me enough to buy me an imac.

You may have a mac and a thousand cinema displays, but you are still a mac user like the rest of us. Thats whats really important.

Kwyjibo
Jul 4, 2003, 03:25 AM
this is like the macrumors high roller thread.... i wish i had a g5 on pre-order to talk about...

Zenith
Jul 4, 2003, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by tazo
I think after a while and you have all these great products, you lose sight of what is really most important. Being a mac user.

remember the first time you opened your new mac?
I do. Everyday I think to myself, thank god my parents listened to me enough to buy me an imac.

You may have a mac and a thousand cinema displays, but you are still a mac user like the rest of us. Thats whats really important.

Man, I remember the moment when I got the bondi blue iMac back in -98. It was great, but getting a Cube in 2001 was even better! What a work of art... Now I really look forward to the day in september when I'm opening a box saying "PowerMac G5". I don't even dare thinking about how badly my social life will suffer from that moment on... :p

ozubahn
Jul 4, 2003, 03:42 AM
After your G5 arrives, my setup will look like this:

PowerMac G5
PowerBook G4 500
external 80GB firewire drive
15 GB iPod


That is, assuming Fedex makes a big mistake... Not likely, but you never know.

hvfsl
Jul 4, 2003, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by zarathustra
Whaaaaa? So the gov't in the UK pays for Nintendos and all those computers? Hard to believe... :rolleyes:


I get money from the gov becuase I am dyslexic, the money is only allowed to be used on equipment that can help me (computers). Of course the games consoles were bought with my own money. I have actually spent more money on my 4 Macs than my 8 PCs since each PC only cost me about $600 to make, while the Powerbooks cost me $3000 each and the other Macs cost me around $1500 each.

hvfsl
Jul 4, 2003, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Zenith
Man, I remember the moment when I got the bondi blue iMac back in -98. It was great, but getting a Cube in 2001 was even better! What a work of art... Now I really look forward to the day in september when I'm opening a box saying "PowerMac G5". I don't even dare thinking about how badly my social life will suffer from that moment on... :p

The enjoyment of getting a new computer only lasts about a week, so I doubt you will miss out much on your social life.

MacRonin
Jul 4, 2003, 10:44 AM
PowerMac G5
-dual 2GHz 64bit CPUs
-8GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM
-SuperDrive
-Two 250GB S-ATA HDDs (OS X software RAID implemented)
-wishing for nVidea QuadroFX1000 OpenGL card...

23" Apple Cinema Display (hooked to ADC port)

18" Wacom Cintiq LCD/graphics tablet (hooked to DVI-I port)

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Nuff said, true believers...

(well, code doesn't hold the formatting, and straight posting does just that, straightens out the entire lines... But you folks get the jist of it...)

Peyote
Jul 4, 2003, 11:45 AM
Mine will be:


Powermac G5 2x2ghz
1 GB RAM
160GB ATA
Radeon 9600 pro
Superdrive


14" 900Mhz G3 Ibook
512 MB RAM
40GB HD


My Current Monitor is a LaCie 19" Electron BlueII, which I LOVE....but with all this new space on my desk from replacing my wife's junky PC with an Ibook, the LaCie 22" is REALLY tempting me. I'd love a Cinema display...but just too damn expensive. If the 20" Cinema Display was around $800, I'd snap that puppy up. I might even drop the cash for a 23" if it was around $1500. IMHO, there's just no justification for spending that much on a display. Granted, I would kill for a 23" CD, but buying one defies logic.

negrito
Jul 4, 2003, 12:16 PM
my setup will look as follows:

- Apple Power Mac G5 Dual 2 GHz
- 1.5 GB RAM
- superdrive
- 160 GB harddisk
- ati radeon 9600 pro 64 MB
- bluetooth

- Apple Studio Display 17" (is this one ok or can you propose other displays with high quality colour reproduction)

for CHF 5430.- or USD 4028.- ...yes! everthing is more expensive here...

AND

- Intel Pentium II 500 Mhz
- 256 MB RAM
- CD-ReWriter
- 80 GB harddisk
- nvidia geforce 2 MX 32 MB

- Philips 17b CRT monitor 17"

so this will be my first apple product i will buy :) and also the first computer since about 6 years :D.
my creativity never related on a computer because it is a tool like a pencil but it's a very useful tool. if there is no creativity no computer can resolve that but in this thread it was the goal to see the systems and discuss the specific use of those systems.

Winston Smith
Jul 4, 2003, 12:42 PM
Currently a Bondi Blue 233mhz iMac

The plan is:
Put a 500mhz G4 in the iMac and max the RAM
Get a 2nd hand last gen Pismo with (or put in) a G4 500mhz and max the RAM.
802.11g links for both of them.

Then a dual 2ghz G5 with 4GB RAM. (or similar as by then it will hopefully Rev b)

The G5 will come after xmas when I reckon there'll be workable ways of linking to home stereo and TV to fully digitise everything. (I'm in the UK so TIVO home media is not an option)
An Eyegonomic screen with the G5 (probably with the Pismo first)

Any comment on the Pismo?

Peyote
Jul 4, 2003, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by negrito

my creativity never related on a computer because it is a tool like a pencil but it's a very useful tool. if there is no creativity no computer can resolve that but in this thread it was the goal to see the systems and discuss the specific use of those systems.


Most people that are true creative types and work in a creative field requiring a compuer know this. Then there are friends of mine who believe that trying to show photoshop skills in a portfolio is the key to a job.


Like he said, a computer is a tool. Until they come up with a program that will let you input the parameters and spit out a concept for you, it will never be anyhting more than an output device. I don't get it!? Do people really believe that before computers came around there was no good design, advertsing, film, or music? The computer can only give us the ability to reproduce our concept...it CANNOT make up for the lack of a concept in the first place.

beatle888
Jul 4, 2003, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Alte22a
True very true, like my teachers use to say "You cant make ***** shine"

its easy to make **** shine with some high gloss finishing spray and lighting....i wouldnt listen to your teachers.

beatle888
Jul 4, 2003, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
You'd be surprised at what i;ve seen. Some of the crappiest designers I know use the best equipment.

One of my favorite photographers, a friend of mine's mom, uses disposable cameras.

And her photos got into an arts fest as an emerging artist. And yet, I know some people who are professionals who have 40k equipment set ups who take crappy pictures.

A friend of mine got a bunch of his paintings copied by a large imaging house here in town. He paid 80 bucks per shot, for about 20 paintings and the images were CRAP. Noisy, one was blurry, I had to spend tons of time in PS post processing these, which was supposedly included....

So yea. You can have the best equipment but your can not be worth a crap.

Or you can shoot award winning Scottish landscapes on a disposable, printed at Wal Mart and have a brilliant amazing shot. ;)

So good luck with your g5's. Or your super g4 systems. Or whatever.

I'll let my skills speak for themselves. I could outdesign a lot of people using g5's with only a Mac II, Pagemaker 2 and Illustrator 88. You know why? I have the best computer around, and I know how to use it- My mind. :)

;)

this is crap.......you need the power to allow the creative process to flow....you cant tell me it isnt the preference to be able to create without having to be interrupted by a progress bar for a two minute wait on a transform.....a transform that you might want to refine.
and when your up against deadlines power is even more important.

Peyote
Jul 4, 2003, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by beatle888
this is crap.......you need the power to allow the creative process to flow....you cant tell me it isnt the preference to be able to create without having to be interrupted by a progress bar for a two minute wait on a transform.....a transform that you might want to refine.
and when your up against deadlines power is even more important.


You have a lot to learn.


The creative process shouldn't be happening when you are on the computer (for the most part anyway). The creative process should be going on while you are creating thumbnails, roughs, and comps. Once you finish your comp, you already know what it will look like on the computer...so you're not going to be playing guessing games like "hunt and peck typography" or "Let's see what this looks like." That stuff should betaken care of before you get to the computer. THE COMPUTER IS NOT A CREATIVE TOOL. Do you study design? If so, what college so I can make sure not to recommend anyone go there.

Alte22a
Jul 4, 2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Peyote
You have a lot to learn.

The creative process shouldn't be happening when you are on the computer (for the most part anyway). The creative process should be going on while you are creating thumbnails, roughs, and comps. Once you finish your comp, you already know what it will look like on the computer...so you're not going to be playing guessing games like "hunt and peck typography" or "Let's see what this looks like." That stuff should betaken care of before you get to the computer. THE COMPUTER IS NOT A CREATIVE TOOL. Do you study design? If so, what college so I can make sure not to recommend anyone go there.

Yeap all the creative process is done before it actually reaches digital. This is a true fact, but do you ever get one of those days when the client says "I want this this and this" and you show them something "You mean this, this and this?" and they reply YES! all is going well until the proof is out and they want a friggin CHANGE!!!

At this very point in the post production office you want to throw wacom tablet at the client and poke their eyes out with the stylus and if you have a 12"PB handy I guess I would have cooked them alive. Well you get my point. When things like this happens you pray to god that the render or what ever the function is perform as quickly as possible cause you just want this job over and done as soon as.

At College concept refinement is all good, but sometimes the real world just doesnt happen. Well thank god this doesnt happen very often hence I'm on a 3months break. Going back and hopefully getting new equipment for the new office. :D

Frohickey
Jul 5, 2003, 01:38 AM
Normally, I don't upgrade equipment or software quickly. I'm still using a PowerMac G4 AGP graphics. For me, its been very stable, on for months on end, quietly checking email, opening .pdf files, .xls files, etc. I could connect to it via Timbuktu while out travelling, and I haven't had to worry about it. Heck, its still running OS 9!

But I think its about time to start using a PowerMac G5. The old standby is starting to feel slow and sometimes it can't run the important business apps. So, it will be a PowerMac G5 dual 2GHz, 250GB SATA drive, Superdrive (included) and ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (hopefully).

Jookbox
Jul 5, 2003, 02:02 PM
Mac:
Dual 2.0 Ghz. PowerMac G5
1GB PC3200 RAM
160GB Serial ATA
4x Superdrive
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
Apple Keyboard/Mouse
20" Cinema Display

PC:
Athlon XP2100(1.7GHz)
512MB PC2700 RAM
75GB Western Digital HD
2x20GB Western Digital HD
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB
Microsoft Keyboard and Optical Mouse
19" Iiyama CRT

not sure why i was compelled to post this

Freg3000
Jul 5, 2003, 08:33 PM
See my sig. :)

Before that I had a 333Mhz Blueberry iMac. Way beforfe that we had a really old Mac, I think it cost $4000 and was 25 Mhz.