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Mr. Anderson
Jul 3, 2003, 07:19 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/07/03/hacker.warnings.ap/index.html

This ought to suck - anyone *know* anything about it?

Looks like it might be better to find something better to do than be online come Sunday.....

D

pretentious
Jul 3, 2003, 10:29 AM
Yeah, in this story at PC World (http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,111438,00.asp), OS X gets a full compliment of 5 points if hacked!

Rather than focusing on the amount of defacement, the Defacers Challenge is set up to reward the skill of malicious hackers who can compromise sites. The contest targets servers running nonstandard or less frequently used operating systems like the Apple Macintosh and such Unix variants as IBM AIX and Hewlett-Packard HP-UX.

Contest organizers have even set up a Web site that outlines the rules of the game. It provides a point system for compromised machines and spells out guidelines for what counts as valid defacement. Windows servers count for 1 point, while HP-UX and Macintosh servers count for 5.

Not saying that this any good or anything, but its kinda cool that we get props by the hacker community :D.

Mr. Anderson
Jul 3, 2003, 10:36 AM
Well, it also says a lot that you get 5 points for a Macserver :D

Anyone know the website? I'd love to follow the results....

D

MrMacMan
Jul 3, 2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Well, it also says a lot that you get 5 points for a Macserver :D

Anyone know the website? I'd love to follow the results....

D

The website was brought down because they apparently broke the Terms of Service... but it was

defacers-challenge.com

which is stupid because .com is already totally tight with restrictions ...

*MrMacMan will not be taking part of this event, though I know somepeople who will...

They are already 'preparing'... but they might not acually do it currently there is alot of FUD going around about how people will get 'points' and who is keeping record... scoring... time to start... etc.

Go to an underground IRC channel ... :rolleyes:

Stelliform
Jul 3, 2003, 11:25 PM
One thing it is going to mean for me is alot of updates on the servers I maintain. I guess this will be a good excuse to update the web servers with fixes.
I just wish they wouldn't have picked the first scheduled weekend I had off in a month. Wish the script kiddies would get a life.... (No offence to the guys you know MrMacMan. Well Yeah kinda. :) and tell them I called them Script Kiddies.. :D)

MrMacMan
Jul 4, 2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Stelliform
(No offence to the guys you know MrMacMan. Well Yeah kinda. :) and tell them I called them Script Kiddies.. :D)

haha, they are legit man.

I don't need to go into details but they have majorly messed up some places.

meh...

Wardofsky
Jul 4, 2003, 07:40 AM
Sorry to all hackers prior to this post.

Please, do something other than hacking, it may be fun to bring sites down and cause trouble for them but, c'mon...

And I don't mean to stereo type anybody but you have made a pretty bad reputation for yourself...

I'm tempted to say "Get some friends, read a book, turn off ya computer".

Do I really have the power to say this, I'm on these forums :D

Wardofsky
Jul 4, 2003, 07:44 AM
http://216.239.33.104/search?q=cache:TpZap_A8DOwJ:www.defacers-challenge.com/defeng.htm+defacers+challenge&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

The cache thanks to Google.

I might turn my firewall :D

The systems OS windows will have pontuation = 1 ,

The systems linux, unix, and * bsd will have pontuation = 2 ,

Systems AIX will have pontuation = 3 ,

The systems Hp-ux and Macintosh will have maximum pontuation of 5 points

Zeke
Jul 4, 2003, 08:38 AM
Did you guys see the link on the same page about colleges teaching hacking as an ffort by Microsoft to help new software engineers write more secure code (because they're definitely the experts in this area). I thought that was really funny.

MrMacMan
Jul 4, 2003, 10:51 AM
Haha guys, I didn't say I hack... :p


That would be illegal! :rolleyes:

But anyway there are always Challenges in hacking, but never with a point system like this... haha.

Wardofsky
Jul 4, 2003, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by Zeke
Did you guys see the link on the same page about colleges teaching hacking as an ffort by Microsoft to help new software engineers write more secure code (because they're definitely the experts in this area). I thought that was really funny.

That's probably why they only get 1 point per site down...

bousozoku
Jul 4, 2003, 05:13 PM
The school where I attend classes has "Internetworking security" which is a class about securing your servers against attacks. However, part of the class involves testing your safeguarding by hacking.

Wardofsky
Jul 5, 2003, 07:35 AM
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6704119%255E1702,00.html

I know some kids whos parents are in the Australian IT Security Sector.

It's a pretty full on place with so much technology, not many Macs.

janey
Jul 5, 2003, 04:28 PM
i really despise hacking other people's computers but with
500mb of hosting
webmail
email forward (limitless)
Domain Name (that YOU choose).

as the prize for defacing the most websites it sounds irresistably good :(

Stelliform
Jul 6, 2003, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by übergeek

as the prize for defacing the most websites it sounds irresistably good :(

But that prize isn't so hard to setup yourself. Stock Macs running OS X can do that with a little work. (Far less than the hacking would require.) And do you really need all of that bandwidth? Not for a piddly little site that a script kiddy would have.

FYI challenge started at 9am. None of my servers affected yet. I haven't bumped into a defacement yet, except www.zone-h.org is under a DOS attack currently. (The place you were supposed to report defacements.)

Stelliform
Jul 6, 2003, 08:13 PM
Seems like the challenge didn't amount to much... CNN article. (http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/07/06/hacker.day.reut/index.html)

janey
Jul 9, 2003, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Stelliform
But that prize isn't so hard to setup yourself. Stock Macs running OS X can do that with a little work. (Far less than the hacking would require.) And do you really need all of that bandwidth? Not for a piddly little site that a script kiddy would have.

FYI challenge started at 9am. None of my servers affected yet. I haven't bumped into a defacement yet, except www.zone-h.org is under a DOS attack currently. (The place you were supposed to report defacements.)
i can't believe someone defaced zone-h :rolleyes:
anyway, it's 500mb, webmail, a domain name and e-mail forwarding for FREE. that's the thing to keep in mind.

Wardofsky
Jul 9, 2003, 12:45 AM
Heh, they've got a list of defacements with caches of them, how funny, you can see what they did.

Only 93 sites though :D

http://www.zone-h.org/en/defacements