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MacRumors
Jul 14, 2003, 12:12 AM
LoopRumors has posted (http://www.looprumors.com/) a design which it claims is a new "adjustable displays coming from Apple".

These images have been floating around the web (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=32055) over the weekend and appear simply to be concept shots (http://www.spymac.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=40033&papass=&sort=1&thecat=502) posted to Spymac.



BaghdadBob
Jul 14, 2003, 12:28 AM
LoopRumors is totally on the spot on this one. Everyone knows that Apple actually thinks holy metal is the design of the future, and that's why they're putting it on their monitors.

Chef Ramen
Jul 14, 2003, 01:04 AM
LMAO!!

We've received more information on the adjustable displays coming from Apple. Unlike the iMac display its only adjustable in height and angle. But it moves in a different manner. It comes very close to the G5 design but I can imagine it looks incredible beside a powerbook. Here's what we got...The display itself is much lighter than the old ones and the bezel is much thinner. looks way cooler. We received no info on the resolution and technical stuff, but the file name says cinema 23" but maybe higher resolution. **** said they had 20" and a much bigger one but they all look the same just different sizes. They have 4 ports on the back, 2 firewire and 2 USB ports. I dont know if USB 2.0 but no fw 800 for sure (shape of the port) **** is a dork man, he works with top secret stuff and does not even look at the details...

i jumped the gun on arn's thread with these but quickly realized their photoshopness. lol :D

BJNY
Jul 14, 2003, 01:48 AM
The exact same info was posted on July 11th in the comments of the OEM Pipeline Report at MacWhispers. Those mockups are hideous.

jbomber
Jul 14, 2003, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by BJNY
The exact same info was posted on July 11th in the comments of the OEM Pipeline Report at MacWhispers. Those mockups are hideous.

Seriously, but the G5's no beauty queen either. I guess that's why people are believing it...

danielgrenell
Jul 14, 2003, 02:45 AM
this is bs, defiantly not real, i saw this on spymac like a week ago, and that person claimed it was just their rendering.

astray
Jul 14, 2003, 04:41 AM
Ok guys, i feel that these are fake and a waste of time. But having said that i have way to much free time at the moment so im gonna produce my own fake, looking the same but without the lcd screen part and to my own aspect ratio, ill keep ya posted.

astray
Jul 14, 2003, 07:04 AM
I think i must have angered the gods when i said i had free time, since within minutes of starting i had to go out and do some stuff which took 1.5 hours. Anywho i have just started again and heres progress so far.

edit: updated the image, but i got boredand so it's a little sloppy and unfinished, but its proof of process, a little skewing and cloning and you can get good results.

Mr. Anderson
Jul 14, 2003, 07:49 AM
Nice example - very nice indeed...;)

Definitely puts the matter to rest for me, even though I pretty much knew it was a mock up in the first place.

But your work shows that it wasn't even 3D just some photoshop.

D

Freg3000
Jul 14, 2003, 08:26 AM
What exactly does "adjustable" mean. More so than the iMac? Horizontal to vertical mode? Someone help explain.

astray
Jul 14, 2003, 08:38 AM
Nobody knows the exact mechanism, but basically it should be more movable like the imac display.

Wes
Jul 14, 2003, 08:45 AM
What a load of CRAP! Who does he expect to believe this? Is the ADC connector going to carry power and signal for all those ports? Is Apple going to put a new connector and make all the old screens obselete in new Macs? How dumb are those people...

pyrotoaster
Jul 14, 2003, 09:27 AM
But who wouldn't trust a source named "****"?! I'm just thinking of all the four letter words LoopRumors could be concealing there... :rolleyes:

macnews
Jul 14, 2003, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by Wes
What a load of CRAP! Who does he expect to believe this? Is the ADC connector going to carry power and signal for all those ports? Is Apple going to put a new connector and make all the old screens obselete in new Macs? How dumb are those people...

Would be just like Apple to change the connector. I have a 17" and 20" flat panel and the ADC does not fit my 500Mhz G4 with something that looks like an ADC connector spot. They do fit nicely with my Quicksilver and MDD G4's but now I am stuck with a CRT on the older model or buying some special connector. I like the "all" in one type of connector with ADC but do they have to keep changing the plug?

innervision
Jul 14, 2003, 10:41 AM
LoopRumors doesn't hold much weight in my opinion... I mean, seriously, grabbing an image that's been around for a week, slapping your logo on it and posting it as info from a source doesn't make you a rumors site. am i wrong?? :confused:

solvs
Jul 14, 2003, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by macnews
Would be just like Apple to change the connector. I have a 17" and 20" flat panel and the ADC does not fit my 500Mhz G4 with something that looks like an ADC connector spot. They do fit nicely with my Quicksilver and MDD G4's but now I am stuck with a CRT on the older model or buying some special connector. I like the "all" in one type of connector with ADC but do they have to keep changing the plug?

You're kidding right?

You should have a DVI port? What kind of video card do you have? You're right, they don't all have ADC. ADC is a connector based on DVI that also carries USB and power. You do have to buy a connector, but they aren't THAT expensive. It would fit just fine with that.

I'm sorry, but when you bought the monitors, didn't you know that? If you didn't, I am sorry, but it does specifically mention this on the specs. You could have just bought a Formac, or other type of monitor, with a DVI port. But if you buy a current Apple display, you have to either have ADC or a DVI to ADC connector.

Don't mean to be rude, but what are you complaining about?

viggen61
Jul 14, 2003, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by macnews
Would be just like Apple to change the connector. I have a 17" and 20" flat panel and the ADC does not fit my 500Mhz G4 with something that looks like an ADC connector spot. They do fit nicely with my Quicksilver and MDD G4's but now I am stuck with a CRT on the older model or buying some special connector. I like the "all" in one type of connector with ADC but do they have to keep changing the plug?

What you need is this: Apple DVI to ADC Display Adapter (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?productLearnMore=M8661LL/A)

DVI doesn't carry the power to run the ADC monitors.

As an alternative, there are a couple video card upgrades that will give you an ADC port.

chubakka
Jul 14, 2003, 11:27 AM
I don't think looprumors was saying that this is what it'll look like...
they just throw up concept images with the description. So you can get an idea of what it MIGHT look like.

Nowhere does it say.... SPY images or anything.

noverflow
Jul 14, 2003, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by viggen61
As an alternative, there are a couple video card upgrades that will give you an ADC port.

Really, how do they get power from the motherboard?

What are these video cards you speak of that will give adc to a computer with an AGP slot and no AGP power connector?

Thats awesome, i always thought it was possible, just connect it to the drive power connector... but the AGP power port is 28V

innervision
Jul 14, 2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by chubakka
I don't think looprumors was saying that this is what it'll look like...
they just throw up concept images with the description. So you can get an idea of what it MIGHT look like.

Nowhere does it say.... SPY images or anything.

true, but they were presenting it as if it were original and/or exclusive material, ie - putting their logo on the display.

PS: they have just recently added a addendum to the 'rumor' saying: "NOTE: These images have been floating around the web since the weekend, and are widely believed to be Photoshopped, however, fun to look at nonetheless."



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etoiles
Jul 14, 2003, 03:09 PM
Samsung has some intersting designs, now just imagine the stand was shaped more like the G5 handles and open in the front center (for the keyboard).

I think it could work

;)

Belgium
Jul 14, 2003, 03:31 PM
If you want a monitor that fits very well (IMHO) next to the G5, check out the LCD's from eyegonomic http://www.eyegonomic.com/page.dsp?page=188

They have an awesome 24', but the rest is very nice as well!

etoiles
Jul 14, 2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Belgium
If you want a monitor that fits very well (IMHO) next to the G5, check out the LCD's from eyegonomic http://www.eyegonomic.com/page.dsp?page=188

They have an awesome 24', but the rest is very nice as well!

those are SWEET !
Do you know what the pricing and image quality is on those screens ?

bertinman
Jul 14, 2003, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Belgium
If you want a monitor that fits very well (IMHO) next to the G5, check out the LCD's from eyegonomic http://www.eyegonomic.com/page.dsp?page=188

They have an awesome 24', but the rest is very nice as well!

I DO like the styles...

I DO NOT like the fact of only VGA connections...

- bert

cheb712
Jul 14, 2003, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by pyrotoaster
But who wouldn't trust a source named "****"?! I'm just thinking of all the four letter words LoopRumors could be concealing there... :rolleyes:
In case you were wondering who "****" is maybe this can help:
http://www.envestco2.com/macwhispers/comments.php?id=P153_0_4_0

Maybe the name is Jason, maybe not.

Freg3000
Jul 14, 2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by cheb712
In case you were wondering who "****" is maybe this can help:
http://www.envestco2.com/macwhispers/comments.php?id=P153_0_4_0

Maybe the name is Jason, maybe not.

Yeah right. The next 15" PowerBook will remain Titanium? And will only get Aluminum along with a update to the other PowerBooks in January 2004? what is he smoking? If this is true.....wow. How sad it would be for Apple to be selling an 867 MHz PowerBook in the first days of 2004. :(

MacWhispers
Jul 14, 2003, 10:34 PM
There's a 17-inch widescreen Cinema Display in the works, near-term. And, right behind that is new 30-inch Cinema. Both of these continue the same styling we now have. And, there is zero product level activity taking place to change any of the displays.

This isn't even a rumor; it's jusy a made up story. There **are no** new display appearance redesigns cmoing anytime soon... at least until deep into 2004.

MrMacMan
Jul 15, 2003, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by MacWhispers
There's a 17-inch widescreen Cinema Display in the works, near-term. And, right behind that is new 30-inch Cinema. Both of these continue the same styling we now have. And, there is zero product level activity taking place to change any of the displays.

This isn't even a rumor; it's jusy a made up story. There **are no** new display appearance redesigns cmoing anytime soon... at least until deep into 2004.

And MacWhispers knows all now...

Right.

negrito
Jul 15, 2003, 12:40 PM
i visited www.apple.com/pr today and i saw a new display. i immediately downloaded the images but in the middle of the download of the second image the download stopped. a reactualized the page in my browser but the photos weren't there anymore. here the one i got:

innervision
Jul 15, 2003, 01:51 PM
my vote is for photoshop... :rolleyes:

doesn't follow what the new G5s look like..

etoiles
Jul 15, 2003, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by negrito
i visited www.apple.com/pr today and i saw a new display. i immediately downloaded the images but in the middle of the download of the second image the download stopped. a reactualized the page in my browser but the photos weren't there anymore. here the one i got:

sure, and my name is Harry Potter...:p

WM.
Jul 15, 2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by MacWhispers
There's a 17-inch widescreen Cinema Display in the works, near-term. And, right behind that is new 30-inch Cinema. Both of these continue the same styling we now have. And, there is zero product level activity taking place to change any of the displays.

This isn't even a rumor; it's jusy a made up story. There **are no** new display appearance redesigns cmoing anytime soon... at least until deep into 2004.
I'm a little confused.

You say your site is "just a hobby", you're just trying to have fun and see if you can predict the future of Apple hardware. OK, I guess I can dig that, although your stories are usually written in pretty absolute language, like they're the gospel truth or something.

But then you go and post something like this, where not only do you insult a competitor (and probably rightfully so), but you make more absolute declarations about the future. Which is it--a "real" rumor site (a la MacRumors and ThinkSecret), or "just a hobby"?

TIA
WM

solvs
Jul 16, 2003, 01:36 AM
Well, at least now we know where Macwhispers gets his rumors from. :p

ConceptVBS
Jul 16, 2003, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by etoiles
Samsung has some intersting designs, now just imagine the stand was shaped more like the G5 handles and open in the front center (for the keyboard).

I think it could work

;)

This monitor is very innovative in the sense that it can be used in various places. If you look at the sides, you can see 3 holes. Those are used to adjust the monitor in 3 different configurations by using the base stand: one is the tabletop config (the one you see in the pics), 2nd is the wall hang, and lastly is the ceiling hang(like those mini LCD's you see on minivans). My friend has this particular monitor and he hangs it on the ceiling. Pretty cool. :)

beastbaby
Jul 16, 2003, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by negrito
i visited www.apple.com/pr today and i saw a new display. i immediately downloaded the images but in the middle of the download of the second image the download stopped. a reactualized the page in my browser but the photos weren't there anymore. here the one i got:


This is complete nonsense.

Apple will not release ANY new designed products with clear acrylic parts anymore, the whole line of "pro" products will switch to aluminium like the PowerBooks, the G5, the new Pro Keyboard/Mouse and other peripherals that are coming (definitely in the near future: new displays, drives etc.), and in the "i" Line, white plastic and chrome/aluminium will continue to be used. The whole "translucent" look is disappearing, just like Aqua is now slowly transcending to "Metal".

My display pictures (the displays that are discussed here and in other forums as well as at www.looprumors.com) are at least something that is very possibly released by Apple (maybe without Handles and a different stand).

Yes, I did those Photoshop pics. So they are "fake".

Here again my "dream-lineup". A 30", a 23" and a 20". I'd like to have the 30" as my main monitor and the 20" for the palettes... ; )

innervision
Jul 16, 2003, 06:46 AM
nice PS job... :) although i'm not too hot on the handles - they could do without them

tdewey
Jul 16, 2003, 08:29 AM
Dont know if this is related but ATI just issued a press release for the 9800 Pro Mac Edition annoucing support for an adjustable display and VERSAVISION, whatever that is. See www.ati.com left hand side.

I dont know, maybe this is old news?

solvs
Jul 16, 2003, 08:40 AM
Rotating the monitor 90 degrees. MacCentral (http://maccentral.macworld.com/).

rt_brained
Jul 16, 2003, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by astray
edit: updated the image, but i got boredand so it's a little sloppy and unfinished, but its proof of process, a little skewing and cloning and you can get good results. Ahaa, The new iMac G5!

negrito
Jul 16, 2003, 11:16 AM
it was just fun to make the display so i thougt it would be good to invent some absurd story like the one that started this thread :D

besides that: the new displays will be based on the imac screen. the transparent acrylic par will be replaced by a aluminium plate with the same thickness as the acrylic. this is just to make fit the isight on it. the white part of the imac screen will be solid aluminium and the transparent part will me a mesh aluminium. (i will make one ;) )

i will make another picture to show it. the design between professional and user is now very distinct:

chrome, shiny plastic, white, smooth = attractive, special, untouchable, enlighted, toy, fun, quality, heavenly.

half shiny, silver, rough = earthy, strong, hard, cold, touching.

so the pro line has really this "use me" touch so this is honest to the professional user. there is no need to make it look something that it isn't. the i-line is more like a toy and promizes to be something that it may isn't. but for the user that hasn't to much money it is a very satisfing design that makes him to feel like the owner of something unique.

the design of apple is very good and they really know what they are doing.

the future
Jul 16, 2003, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by solvs
Rotating the monitor 90 degrees. MacCentral (http://maccentral.macworld.com/).

Hmm... wouldn't it be great if new Apple Displays whenever they are coming took advantage of this Versavision technology? It would be ESPECIALLY usefull for widescreen displays like Apple has made their "trademark" (although other companys have started to manufacture widescreen displays as well). Bring them on!!

donk
Jul 19, 2003, 02:36 AM
I got some info from xxxx that the 20" display is on it's way and that it will have a very high resolution, since the new machine that is used to produce it is able to "write" the whole display in one go, which hasn't been possible before. The way it was used to be done was that a display was assembled by adding a number of 6" display parts in to a larger complete display. So now it's just up to Apple to release it to us.