MacBook Pro Software Update 1.0 Released

[katorga]

I saw this in my update tool today, any clue what it does?

Link to Apple (http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macbookprosoftwareupdate10.html)

[epardilla]

In all the iPhone prerelease hype n hoopla, mbp soft update is not even announced on any of the big mac sites!

[Krevnik]

I saw this in my update tool today, any clue what it does?

Link to Apple (http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macbookprosoftwareupdate10.html)

If we knew... it would be from the link.

BTW, you might want to fix up the link, you have the URL and name backwards. (I fixed the version in my reply)

[krisis1]

The OpenGL framework appears to be updated according to my system profiler!

[Jestered]

The OpenGL framework appears to be updated according to my system profiler!

I am downloading it now. Still waiting for the Optimizing to finish.

The OpenGL framework update would be great. Comparing xbench benchmarks between my 2.2 MBP and my brothers 2.16 MBP... I beat him on everything except the OpenGL test.

[Peace]

Bad link

[Jestered]

The default LCD Color Profile was also updated!

I just switched it from my own calibration and it looks much better than it did with the default color profile that the MBPs (SR) shipped with!

[shambolic]

OpenGL/video driver updates are much welcomed - Aperture has been super-crashy for me since upgrading from my old Powerbook to the new MBP, and the crash log pointed to calls in the GeForce OpenGL driver.

Fingers crossed this resolves the issue (and if so, thanks Apple for not forcing us to wait for Leopard).

[PDE]

IT's true BS that Apple doesn't provide more information about this update. They must be hiding something....

[Jestered]

What we know so far:

Update to the OpenGL Framework
Update to the Default Color LCD profile

I am also noticing that my MBP is running quite a bit cooler now as well.

[Sbrocket]

IT's true BS that Apple doesn't provide more information about this update. They must be hiding something....

I unpacked the update and its just an Nvidia driver and GL engine update. Definitely should be a good thing.

Note: From what I can see, the default LCD profile is not changed.

List of updated files inc...
/System/Library/Extensions/GeForce.kext
/System/Library/Extensions/GeForce8xxxGLDriver.bundle
/System/Library/Extensions/GeForceGA.plugin
/System/Library/Extensions/GeForceVADriver.bundle
/System/Library/Extensions/NVDANV50Hal.kext
/System/Library/Extensions/NVDAResman.kext
/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/headers
/usr/libexec/oah/Shims/GLEngine.bundle
/usr/libexec/translate

[Jestered]

I unpacked the update and its just an Nvidia driver and GL engine update. Definitely should be a good thing.

List of updated files inc...

Yeah, I was wrong about the LCD Profile....

I checked the modify date on mine and it was new, but I forgot I reinstalled the OS...

Sorry!

My MBP is running much cooler now though.

[AngelGuy7]

By any miracle does this fix the yellowing issue? Can someone who has the issue check and report back?

Edit: I saw the updated post that shows what was included in the update. Unless the video card driver had something to do with the yellowing I'm doubtful this update resolved the yellowing issue.

[mesonic]

Note: From what I can see, the default LCD profile is not changed.

If I open my Color LCD profile it says "Generated at 28.06.07". Maybe it is updated. And it looks different now. I switched back from my own profile to the default color profile. I think it looks less yellowish. Other opinions?

[Jestered]

If I open my Color LCD profile it says "Generated at 28.06.07". Maybe it is updated. And it looks different now. I switched back from my own profile to the default color profile. I think it looks less yellowish. Other opinions?

That is what I saw too. I reinstalled the OS so I thought that is why it showed that. Maybe it was updated. I know when I switched back it did look better to me, but that could have just been my own mind playing tricks on me.

[katorga]

My MBP seems to be running cooler too. I wonder if they underclocked the GPU or tuned the powermiser settings to lower clockspeed? It seems to be running about 10C cooler since the update?

[amitface]

My Color LCD doesn't seem to be updated. Looks exactly the same with same creation date.

Also, the bottom yellow tint is still there. I didn't think a software update would fix this anyway :(

[MacRumors]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

Apple has released MacBook Pro Software Update 1.0 (http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macbookprosoftwareupdate10.html), which "provides important bug fixes and is recommended for all 2.2/2.4GHz MacBook Pro models."

While Apple does not elaborate on the contents of the update, an analysis of the update package indicates that it contains improvements to the graphics subsystem, with updated nVidia graphics drivers and some updated OpenGL components.

Some initial benchmarks (http://www.macworld.com/2007/06/firstlooks/mbp17benchmarks/index.php) of the updated MacBook Pros had indicated some graphics scores lower than its predecesor. This had been speculated to be caused by faulty graphics drivers. This update would seem to be an attempt at correcting these issues.

[sikkinixx]

Apple still makes computers?





I hope this solves some of the little issues that have been plaguing my poor powerbook (yeah yeah I know it's a mbp but powerbook sounds way sweeter)

[ortuno2k]

I just checked software updates, nothing there for me.
I have the 2.33 GHz model, I'm not sure if it applies.
Edit: Nvm, I thought it was models 2.2 through 2.4; and not those two exclusively.
I guess I won't get it - but I wanted an update for my MBP! :)

[BigPrince]

Installed. everything seems fine thus far.

[DMann]

My MBP seems to be running cooler too. I wonder if they underclocked the GPU or tuned the powermiser settings to lower clockspeed? It seems to be running about 10C cooler since the update?

This is quite possible - it's also great to be able to kick the cores into high gear when necessary through Energy Saver.

[BigPrince]

I think I am running cooler now too, especially on the left side.

[skoker]

Apple still makes computers?


:p I was thinking the exact same thing. You can tell that all of the iPhone dev's switched back to their regularly scheduled Mac line duties :) .

[MacUser4_20]

Worked great on my 17" High Res, uodated fine. My wife's 15" 2.4 LCD pdated and color balance seems much better on it now.... And yes seems to be running cooler with no increase in fan speed!!!!

[amac4me]

Will eagerly wait to see new benchmarks published in the next couple of days.

[pianoman181]

Just installed the update and ran Xbench. This is the 2.4GHz version with 2GB ram 15". I forget what my pre-update numbers were, but here are the graphics related tests:

Quartz Graphics Test 153.69
Line 150.64 10.03 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 190.73 56.94 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 179.85 14.66 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 161.90 4.08 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 112.18 7.02 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 136.24
Spinning Squares 136.24 172.83 frames/sec
User Interface Test 370.67
Elements 370.67 1.70 Krefresh/sec

[JimUrban]

My Display definitely feels snappier. :D

[aaronw1986]

Just installed the update and ran Xbench. This is the 2.4GHz version with 2GB ram 15". I forget what my pre-update numbers were, but here are the graphics related tests:

doesn't mean much without before scores...:(

[amoda]

Just installed the update and ran Xbench. This is the 2.4GHz version with 2GB ram 15". I forget what my pre-update numbers were, but here are the graphics related tests:

If you check this (http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/macbook-pro-santa-rosa.ars/3) review of the 2.4 SR MBP and check the xBench section (half way down the page) it shows insignificant/no improvement. The only improvement was by sub 2 points in the Quartz graphics section. The 2 points are probably just the due to slightly different manufacturing conditions.

[twoodcc]

glad apple is still working on macs

[shambolic]

Before, when scrolling through photos, or making adjustments to the crop window, would get random crashes like this one, in the GL driver:

Command: Aperture
Path: /Applications/Aperture.app/Contents/MacOS/Aperture
Parent: WindowServer [68]

Version: 1.5.3 (1.5.3)
Build Version: 6
Project Name: Aperture
Source Version: 704050130

PID: 3900
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x8d8ce1c9

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.apple.GeForce8xxxGLDriver 0x013e3dc5 gldPageoffBuffer + 136133
1 com.apple.GeForce8xxxGLDriver 0x0146c872 gldPageoffBuffer + 695922
2 com.apple.GeForce8xxxGLDriver 0x0146d0d0 gldPageoffBuffer + 698064


Applied the update, spent the past five or ten minutes stressing Aperture as much as possible, making fine adjustments to the crop window (the most reliable way to crash the application before), and can't make it crash now.

If it's snappier/cooler too, then great, but the difference between fundamentally broken and completely working is the big win with this update for me.

[amoda]

Before, when scrolling through photos, or making adjustments to the crop window, would get random crashes like this one, in the GL driver:


Applied the update, spent the past five or ten minutes stressing Aperture as much as possible, making fine adjustments to the crop window (the most reliable way to crash the application before), and can't make it crash now.

If it's snappier/cooler too, then great, but the difference between fundamentally broken and completely working is the big win with this update for me.

Good to hear that this update fixed your problems. Hopefully this update was a fix for that sort of problems. I was worried that they were going to underclock the 8600 to lower temps.

[zeppelin68]

God I hope they didn't underclock the GPU. Can anyone see if its the same clocks as before

[marco114]

I have the newest MacBook Pro 2.2ghz LED model and my computer has been crashing a lot with Flash Video. The computer locks up in a very strange way. No kernel panic, no app quits. The cursor goes crazy and then the spinning beach ball and then complete freeze. It takes about 30-60 seconds for the whole process to happen and there is no way to make it stop other than to hold power and restart. I am on my 2nd computer already and the new one does the same thing. Mostly happens on YouTube videos / flash player but happens sparatically in Safari and more so in Firefox. I really hope this helps!

[ILOVEMYMBP2.2g]

why would it be bad for them to underclock the gpu? What would this do?

[brettanderson]

I have hardware monitor running on my MBP and the CPU voltage has been lowered. Before the update my machine would idle at 0.79V now it idles at 0.69V. The GPU voltage has not changed. This would explain cooler machines.

[Vertig0]

why would it be bad for them to underclock the gpu? What would this do?

You mean besides making the GPU slower? :p

[SMM]

IT's true BS that Apple doesn't provide more information about this update. They must be hiding something....

What a silly remark (and has proven to be so). :p

[whateverandever]

People saying that it runs cooler...

That's because the fans are kicking in faster again. Before my MBP would get up to 65C while browsing the web without the fans going above 2K rpm. Now they kick in around 53C.

Hmmmm, Apple's trying to fix their thermal paste problems with increased fan action again. What a surprise.

[amusiccale]

Well, I'll take an underclocked GPU if it means new drivers make up for the difference in efficiency. <insert blind trust of large corporation here>

[BigPrince]

People saying that it runs cooler...

That's because the fans are kicking in faster again. Before my MBP would get up to 65C while browsing the web without the fans going above 2K rpm. Now they kick in around 53C.

Hmmmm, Apple's trying to fix their thermal paste problems with increased fan action again. What a surprise.

My fans are always at least 1998 RPM. They still are and the computer is still cooler...

[ajhaji]

Installed the update without any problems. No noticeable differences so far. I wonder if this update addresses the flickering issues several users (myself included) have. I guess time will tell.

[whateverandever]

My fans are always at least 1998 RPM. They still are and the computer is still cooler...

Your fans never drop below ~1997rpm.

[katorga]

I don't notice fan speed going over 2000rpm or speeding up at lower temps now, but my machine is running cooler. If the previous post is correct and CPU voltage has been lowered, that would account for it. If they tuned the powermizer 7.0 support in the driver that could account for my much lower GPU temps. (powermizer adjusts the clock speed of the GPU based on powersource and activity).

I use RMclock on my windows laptop to undervolt the CPU to keep the heat down and extend the battery. The same effect should happen here.

I'm pretty darned happy with this update, solved my only gripe about my mbp.

[invasian]

2.2ghz model here...installed without a problem...(although the optimizing part took a while)...and i'll agree with many here...my laptop does feel a bit cooler...mayber 4-5 degrees cooler. Looking at istatpro, my gpu diode temp used to be around 8-10 degrees higher than my cpu, but now it is hovering around 3-6 degrees higher. The cpu temp could be a 2-4 degrees cooler than it usually is. For me, usually it's around 56-60 (with itunes, firefox, adium) during this time (computer has been on 12+ hours continuously) and after this update, the cpu temp is now around 51-53.

Whether it's in my mind or not, I'm very pleased with this update.

[kwong2006]

My MBP appears to be running cooler as well, but I don't know if this is a result of me having the ceiling fan in my room on at full blast. Also, it seems like the processor is really adjusting their clock speeds now. My computer is running at 1.5 GHz right now.

[chem]

For those reporting cooler temps, everyone is talking about idle (or maybe web browsing) temps. What about temps under load? That's the most important thing.

Anyway, good to see that Apple may have at least noticed the issue. Perhaps they improved QC during assembly, too. Fingers crossed.

[hooch]

I have the 2.4ghz model and the one problem I have noticed is my pointer would not be responsive when it was not focused and hidden. I think it happened when I use the up/down arrows to scroll (while reading for example) or typing in a text area (like what I am doing now). I would literally move my finger across the trackpad repeatedly to basically unlock the pointer and get motion. It was getting annoying!

Now, it seems to respond immediately. So, this also seems to be fixed too! Horray!


EDIT: Hmm...maybe that isn't fixed. Does anyone else notice if you do <apple>-t in firefox to open a new tab, it takes a few swipes before there is pointer motion??

[equis.zero]

I think those reporting differences in the lcd could be right, I noticed after the update when viewing the screen at a bad viewing angle it looks alot less yellow than before.

[invasian]

For those reporting cooler temps, everyone is talking about idle (or maybe web browsing) temps. What about temps under load? That's the most important thing.

Anyway, good to see that Apple may have at least noticed the issue. Perhaps they improved QC during assembly, too. Fingers crossed.

So I usually watch everybody hates chris on cwtv.com online. When I do that, the previous temps were always jumped above 70C, sometimes up to 75C.

I'm watching an episode right now as I type and the cpu temp is 64-66C and the GPU diode is 65C. The fans are still at 2000 RPM.


This morning, I was using soxwrap to encode .ogg files to .mp3 . The CPU temp then was around 75-80C (If I remember correctly). I am encoding right now and the temp is around 78C, so it looks like no change there. The GPU diode temp once again, was lower (although I don't have the exact numbers, I'm pretty sure of it).

Again, the fans were still at 2000RPM.

[pengu]

I hope this solves some of the little issues that have been plaguing my poor powerbook (yeah yeah I know it's a mbp but powerbook sounds way sweeter)

right. that is without a doubt the stupidest thing i've ever heard. it's a product, not a child. you cant change the name because you dont like it (unless you happen to become CEO of apple and change the name back on all FUTURE models)

[chem]

invasian,

excellent details in your report! I wonder if the performance is still the same in all those cases. Was the GPU underclocked at all? Is the CPU still performing to its fullest?

Maybe Apple really hit a home run with this patch. Universally good comments so far. That would be great.

[SiliconAddict]

:mad: This is one of the nice things I like about Microsoft.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms07-jun.mspx

They give you blow by blow details on exactly what the fix is for and what they are doing to your system.
Apple's attitude is so blasé, it borders on the irresponsible and IMHO the single biggest reason that they will never take over the enterprise environment.

At any rate like always I will wait a few days and let others beta test the release for me.

[aaronw1986]

:mad: This is one of the nice things I like about Microsoft.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms07-jun.mspx

They give you blow by blow details on exactly what the fix is for and what they are doing to your system.
Apple's attitude is so blasé, it borders on the irresponsible and IMHO the single biggest reason that they will never take over the enterprise environment.

At any rate like always I will wait a few days and let others beta test the release for me.

Apple usually does tell you what the fixes do...this is irregular. Also, this is not a "beta"...

[SiliconAddict]

glad apple is still working on macs

What are those? Is that the new name for the iPhone? Ther renamed it already? DANG that was fast. iPhone...iPhone....iPhone. :p

[opticalserenity]

I'm glad Apple is looking out for us MBP users, its a good sign. I do wish they'd tell us what is in the update.

[kwong2006]

Temps for computer after playing Civ4: 63C.

Doesn't appear to be much change as far as temps, but the game did appear to run smoother.

[Iceduck]

I can definitely confirm that this update addresses the flickering issue.
The flickering appears to have been replaced with "waves" moving across the screen very slowly. On my MBP it is barely noticeable (at least in the lighting here at my work) but since the visibility of the flickering had something to do with the backlight distribution I can imagine that it is more visible on other machines (mine only flickered in the top right corner where it happens to be slightly darker).

I have no real technical insight on this, but I can imagine that they may have underclocked the GPU to save power due to increased power consumption by the increased LED frequency. If they could only increase the frequency even more to completely eliminate the remaining waves...

[maverick808]

I can definitely confirm that this update addresses the flickering issue.
The flickering appears to have been replaced with "waves" moving across the screen very slowly. On my MBP it is barely noticeable (at least in the lighting here at my work) but since the visibility of the flickering had something to do with the backlight distribution I can imagine that it is more visible on other machines (mine only flickered in the top right corner where it happens to be slightly darker).

I have no real technical insight on this, but I can imagine that they may have underclocked the GPU to save power due to increased power consumption by the increased LED frequency. If they could only increase the frequency even more to completely eliminate the remaining waves...

Umm, your MBP is faulty. I received a MBP that had a Samsung display and had a yellow tint at the bottom of the screen and flickered just as you describe. I returned it and received a replacement MBP that has a perfect screen. No yellow tint, no flickering of any kind, no waves at all, equal backlighting. Both flickering and waves would really distract me. If I were you I'd take your faulty MBP back and get a working one.

My new MBP didn't flicker before the update, and there are no waves after the update. The screen was perfect before and remains perfect after.

[Iceduck]

Umm, your MBP is faulty. I received a MBP that had a Samsung display and had a yellow tint at the bottom of the screen and flickered just as you describe. I returned it and received a replacement MBP that has a perfect screen. No yellow tint, no flickering of any kind, no waves at all, equal backlighting. Both flickering and waves would really distract me. If I were you I'd take your faulty MBP back and get a working one.

My new MBP didn't flicker before the update, and there are no waves after the update. The screen was perfect before and remains perfect after.

I have checked out every 15" LED MBP that I could get close to and they all flickered in some form. Some more than others. I think yours flickered too, but possibly not enough to be a problem for you.

Again, the "waves" are barely noticeable (in this lighting, at least) so I wouldn't want to risk very uneven backlighting or dead pixels.

[maverick808]

I have checked out every 15" LED MBP that I could get close to and they all flickered in some form. Some more than others. I think yours flickered too, but possibly not enough to be a problem for you.

Again, the "waves" are barely noticeable (in this lighting, at least) so I wouldn't want to risk very uneven backlighting or dead pixels.

Believe me, when it comes to the screen I am one of the most hard to please customers, and my new display does not flicker. I saw the exact flicker you mention, as I had it on the first SR MBP I received. And it was faint but was there. The new MBP has no flicker whatsoever at any brightness level. I would see it if there was any flicker at all.

I bet if you check you'll see you have the Samsung display, which is widely known to be faulty on the early SR MBPs. My new MBP has the LG display, and I assure you that it does not flicker at all. However, if you are happy with yours, even though it does flicker, then all is good.

[dcv]

About MacBook Pro Software Update 1.0
This update provides important bug fixes and is recommended for all 2.2/2.4GHz MacBook Pro models.

This update requires Mac OS X 10.4.9 or later.

Well that's useful information :rolleyes:

Wonder if this will fix my ****** battery problems. Doubtful...

[DavoMrMac]

I bet if you check you'll see you have the Samsung display, which is widely known to be faulty on the early SR MBPs. My new MBP has the LG display, and I assure you that it does not flicker at all. However, if you are happy with yours, even though it does flicker, then all is good.

Maverick808… did you order online or pick up in a store. If you ordered online, do you know where yours shipped from.

I am on the brink of ordering the 15-inch LED (UK online) but I am sooooo fussy about my screen. Sounds like the LG models are better. Just wondering if all the Samsung ones were out there in the wild already and how I stand a good chance of getting the LG.

I guess I could buy in store and check... ho hum.

[EspressoLove]

Hey guys,
recent switcher here,
maverick808, can you please tell me how to check for display model in SR MBP ?!
system profiler doesn't show this (last I checked :))

I'm going to upgrade my MB to MBP'SR, probably this saturday.
I'll be getting it in Apple Store in Santa Clara, CA, so will have a good chance to check all display virtues right there.

[Iceduck]

I bet if you check you'll see you have the Samsung display, which is widely known to be faulty on the early SR MBPs. My new MBP has the LG display, and I assure you that it does not flicker at all. However, if you are happy with yours, even though it does flicker, then all is good.

Just checked, and I have an LG panel (9c67 in the colour profile). I will have to check out the screen in a darker environment, but so far I think that I am satisfied. While I am picky I am also reasonable, and I can't see the logic in having a computer replaced if I have to focus for 5 minutes on one spot to notice an irregularity :)

[locovaca]

Come on people, I'm sure it has NOTHING to do with the critical fix Intel put out this week:

http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40567

[EspressoLove]

maverick808, Iceduck, guys, can you please tell me what to check when I pick up my SR MBP :
Screen flicker, waves, dead pixels, whatever ...
This will be my truly first Mac, as my MB is really a loaner.

Can you please also elaborate on what tools to use, what to look for, etc

[dcv]

maverick808, Iceduck, guys, can you please tell me what to check when I pick up my SR MBP :
Screen flicker, waves, dead pixels, whatever ...
This will be my truly first Mac, as my MB is really a loaner.

Can you please also elaborate on what tools to use, what to look for, etc

Don't go looking for issues. If there are problems they will be evident. Check out the MacBook & MacBook Pro forum (http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=90) for threads on the specifics.

[EspressoLove]

I was messing today afternoon with 2,4/2Gb SR MBP in Apple store, I was trying to tax the CPU and see how far that may go.

I believe I loaded more than 50% combined, by streaming heavy videos in Safari and Firefox, still I could not manage to make fans spin faster, nor the temps go higher than ~70C (measured with iStat pro widget)

Cannot tell if it had the last update applied, but I can tell, that they not usually updated automatically, so there is good chance it wasn't updated with this last update. Anyway I was mightily impressed with how stable temperature performance was, much more solid than on my MB (gen2,1)

[maverick808]

Maverick808… did you order online or pick up in a store. If you ordered online, do you know where yours shipped from.

I ordered on the UK online store. Both my MBPs shipped from Shanghai. The first I ordered on the 8th June and it arrived on the 18th. The first one had a Samsung display. It had a yellow tint at the bottom of the screen and flickered, especially at lower brightness levels. It also had a dead pixel. I called Apple the following day and they arranged a replacement to be sent. That arrived on the 22nd June. It has the LG display. It is so much better than the Samsung display. No flicker, perfect backlighting, no dead/stuck pixels, and no yellow tint. The screen is extremely bright and the colors are amazingly vibrant. I've owned a 1GHz PowerBook, 1.5GHz PowerBook, 2GHz MBP, 2.33GHz MBP, 1.83GHz MB, 2GHz MB, and many Dells and HPs. The Santa Rosa MBP display I have now easily beats all the previous laptop displays I've seen.

Hey guys,
recent switcher here,
maverick808, can you please tell me how to check for display model in SR MBP ?!
system profiler doesn't show this (last I checked :))

Go to System Preferences->Displays. Click the Color tab and click Open Profile. In the window that opens scroll down to line 13, which is labelled 'mmod' (stands for make and model). Click that line and you'll see the model details. If you have 00009C67 then it's LG. I think the Samsung was 00009C68.

Just checked, and I have an LG panel (9c67 in the colour profile). I will have to check out the screen in a darker environment, but so far I think that I am satisfied. While I am picky I am also reasonable, and I can't see the logic in having a computer replaced if I have to focus for 5 minutes on one spot to notice an irregularity :)

Indeed.

maverick808, Iceduck, guys, can you please tell me what to check when I pick up my SR MBP :
Screen flicker, waves, dead pixels, whatever ...
This will be my truly first Mac, as my MB is really a loaner.

Can you please also elaborate on what tools to use, what to look for, etc

I use Pixel Check to look for dead pixels (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/10793). With that app click automatic and it will switch your display to white, red, green, blue, black. On each color look for any pixel that is a different color. For example, a pixel that always stays black on every color is a dead pixel. One that always stays white is a bright pixel. Ones that are always red, green or blue are stuck. Apple will not normally accept a return for a 1-3 faulty pixels, but if you argue that you need the display for graphic work then you can often convince them. Personally, I have never kept a display that has even one faulty pixel, as I find them very distracting.

As for flicker, yellow tints etc then just have a good look at the display in different colors and lighting conditions. Make sure you check it when the ambient light is low too (a dark room), both at low and high brightness settings. Check on white and on gradients.

Don't go looking for issues. If there are problems they will be evident. Check out the MacBook & MacBook Pro forum (http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=90) for threads on the specifics.

Agreed, I know I am very particular about my displays. However, most people don't even notice dead pixels, minor flicker or poor back lighting. Several times I've asked people if they have dead pixels and they assure me that no way they don't have any, and when I see their laptops/displays it turns out they have one or two. I do the nice thing and don't mention it to them when that happens. If you don't see a problem, then good, be happy with your machine. However, if you do see a problem then don't accept it. You pay a lot for the machine, and you may think you can put up with it, but I bet months from now it will keep bugging you and you'll be cursing yourself for not getting it fixed or replaced.

[maverick808]

I was messing today afternoon with 2,4/2Gb SR MBP in Apple store, I was trying to tax the CPU and see how far that may go.

I believe I loaded more than 50% combined, by streaming heavy videos in Safari and Firefox, still I could not manage to make fans spin faster, nor the temps go higher than ~70C (measured with iStat pro widget

By far the easiest way to max out the processor is to open a Terminal window and type "yes > /dev/null". Do this once for each core. For example, on MBPs and MBs make sure you open two terminals and type it on both.

This will max out each core to 100%. Just press Ctrl-C in the window to stop the process and return processor usage to normal.

[DavoMrMac]

Many thanks Maverick for your response about your journey.

[tonkaxxtuph]

After installing this update, my warcraft 3 crashes upon start up. Any idea or clues why? Maybe the openGL fix? Any solutions?

Thank you

[EspressoLove]

maverick808, Thanks a bunch!
I'm only learning OS X, so all your advices are greatly appreciated!
By the way, I just took a look inside color profile on my MB, and couldn't find info on my display.

It turned out to be, that I had 'Adobe RGB (1998)' active, and I had to change to 'Color LCD' to get to this line 13, which had by the way : 00009C5E (it's MB).

I turned it back to Adobe color profile, because I couldn't stand standard profile, it was quite bleak and sandy, or probably even bit yellowish ;)))) all this on MB made this february.

[jamesybsu]

I am glad they updated the drivers - makes me feel better as I am getting ready to buy a new MBP!

[jonny]

I have the 2.4ghz model and the one problem I have noticed is my pointer would not be responsive when it was not focused and hidden. I think it happened when I use the up/down arrows to scroll (while reading for example) or typing in a text area (like what I am doing now). I would literally move my finger across the trackpad repeatedly to basically unlock the pointer and get motion. It was getting annoying!

Now, it seems to respond immediately. So, this also seems to be fixed too! Horray!


EDIT: Hmm...maybe that isn't fixed. Does anyone else notice if you do <apple>-t in firefox to open a new tab, it takes a few swipes before there is pointer motion??

I found that what fixed this, was unchecking "ignore accidental trackpad input" in the trackpad settings. Other than that, if you switch quickly between typing and cursor, the computron thinks that this is by accident... God forbid we be fast on our mbps.

Side note: I got my update, and my immediate reaction was to test out the OpenGL updates with a game of Call of Duty 2. There is little to no change in that. So while they may have fixed something else, the graphics performance in a gaming environment still can't touch the predecessor.

Please fix it Apple :( I wanna kill me some germans.

[Jestered]

I truly hope that people reading this don't go looking for the LG screen. If you get a MBP and it has the Samsung screen, this does not mean that it is defective. Looking at some of the posts and polls around here it appears you have a better chance of getting a defective (flickering/yellowing) display with the Samsung, but the LGs also have these problems (not as much though).

I have a Samsung screen and it has absolutely no problems. No flickering at all, no yellowing anywhere and no dead/stuck pixels. I would suggest checking with your eyes the display first. If you are happy with it then let it be. Just because it is a Samsung screen does not mean it has problems. Just because it is a LG screen does not mean it won't have the problems.

[Sbrocket]

I can definitely confirm that this update addresses the flickering issue.
The flickering appears to have been replaced with "waves" moving across the screen very slowly. On my MBP it is barely noticeable (at least in the lighting here at my work) but since the visibility of the flickering had something to do with the backlight distribution I can imagine that it is more visible on other machines (mine only flickered in the top right corner where it happens to be slightly darker).

I have no real technical insight on this, but I can imagine that they may have underclocked the GPU to save power due to increased power consumption by the increased LED frequency. If they could only increase the frequency even more to completely eliminate the remaining waves...

Are you talking about this happening during, say, bootup or during normal operation? I get some normal "waves" that is the LED backlight if I'm booting into my Boot Camp partition and sometimes when booting OSX, but nothing at all like that when I'm actually doing something. I think people might be confused as to when these waves or flickering occurs and that's why there's such inconsistent reports.

By the way, I already said way back on the first page that the only files included for update in this package are the Nvidia 8-series drivers (kernel extension and such) and some openGL modification.

[Iceduck]

Are you talking about this happening during, say, bootup or during normal operation? I get some normal "waves" that is the LED backlight if I'm booting into my Boot Camp partition and sometimes when booting OSX, but nothing at all like that when I'm actually doing something. I think people might be confused as to when these waves or flickering occurs and that's why there's such inconsistent reports.

They happens all the time when the display is not set to 100% brightness. However, they are only visible on solid darker colours (that's why you only see it on the boot-up screens).

[danmanix]

Just installed the update and ran Xbench. This is the 2.4GHz version with 2GB ram 15"....

Here are the results from before installing the update... (2.4 Ghz)

Results 191.79
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.4.10 (8R2218)
Physical RAM 2048 MB
Quartz Graphics Test 177.20
Line 153.28 10.21 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 192.34 57.42 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 179.71 14.65 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 161.63 4.08 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 210.90 13.19 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 134.98
Spinning Squares 134.98 171.23 frames/sec
User Interface Test 386.07
Elements 386.07 1.77 Krefresh/sec

And after - not much in it really, apart from what appears to be a jump in the UI test...

Results 197.14
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.4.10 (8R2218)
Physical RAM 2048 MB
Quartz Graphics Test 177.47
Line 153.36 10.21 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 189.78 56.66 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 180.97 14.75 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 162.32 4.09 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 212.92 13.32 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 136.67
Spinning Squares 136.67 173.37 frames/sec
User Interface Test 441.22
Elements 441.22 2.02 Krefresh/sec

[tonkaxxtuph]

Is anyone have issues with crashes after installing update? I can't get quictime to work, I can't get warcraft 3 to work and I can't even get xbench to work.

Please help.

[Jstarko0329]

This update dramatically improves HD movie file playback under OS X also. I learned yesterday that the video drivers in OS X were sub-par compared to the Windows counter-part. I have a high motion 1080i DivX file that was unplayable in OS X but worked beautifully in Windows. With this update, it now plays 10x better in OS X than it did before.

EDIT: Before update, VLC player used 100&#37; processor and dropped many frames making the movie unwatchable. Now, after the update, VLC player only uses ~50% processor and drops no frames.

[benguin]

I have the 2.4ghz model and the one problem I have noticed is my pointer would not be responsive when it was not focused and hidden. I think it happened when I use the up/down arrows to scroll (while reading for example) or typing in a text area (like what I am doing now). I would literally move my finger across the trackpad repeatedly to basically unlock the pointer and get motion. It was getting annoying!

Now, it seems to respond immediately. So, this also seems to be fixed too! Horray!


EDIT: Hmm...maybe that isn't fixed. Does anyone else notice if you do <apple>-t in firefox to open a new tab, it takes a few swipes before there is pointer motion??

This sounds like it might be the "Ignore accidental trackpad input" option. You could try turning that off in System Preferences > Keyboard & Mouse > Trackpad. I turned it off long ago, because it totally messed up a game I was playing (Lugaru).

EDIT: Oops, someone already posted that. I guess I should open replies in new tabs and only write/post them after reading the whole thread...

[invasian]

invasian,

excellent details in your report! I wonder if the performance is still the same in all those cases. Was the GPU underclocked at all? Is the CPU still performing to its fullest?

Maybe Apple really hit a home run with this patch. Universally good comments so far. That would be great.

I have no idea how to check these really. I never did anything to the GPU and never checked it. I assume the CPU is working fine.

I will add that right now (after 10 mins or so after turning on), my cpu temp used to be low 50s (49-53)...but right now it is at 41C. I will see how long it takes for the temp to climb, if at all.

[katorga]

IMHO the single biggest reason that they will never take over the enterprise environment.

I'm not sure that Apple even actively markets their products to the "enterprise market".

They are making so much money on their niche markets I'm not sure they really care about MS all that much.

[finchna]

has there been any mention of fixes related to the sound problems in these new machines?

[Alloye]

I truly hope that people reading this don't go looking for the LG screen. If you get a MBP and it has the Samsung screen, this does not mean that it is defective. Looking at some of the posts and polls around here it appears you have a better chance of getting a defective (flickering/yellowing) display with the Samsung, but the LGs also have these problems (not as much though).

I have a Samsung screen and it has absolutely no problems. No flickering at all, no yellowing anywhere and no dead/stuck pixels. I would suggest checking with your eyes the display first. If you are happy with it then let it be. Just because it is a Samsung screen does not mean it has problems. Just because it is a LG screen does not mean it won't have the problems.

I'll second that. My first MBP has the Samsung screen. It was pretty much flawless until the backlight failed. My second MBP had an LG that was so unevenly lit that every solid color looked like a gradient. My third MBP has a flawless LG.

[Daveway]

Anyone notice advances in battery life? That was my main concern, and I'm not quite convinced that I'm seeing a boost.

[eenu]

Anyone notice advances in battery life? That was my main concern, and I'm not quite convinced that I'm seeing a boost.

You won't. For those that said their fans have changed, their CPU voltage is lowered etc your wrong. Those kind of changes would have gone in an SMC firware upgrade.

This update is nothing more than an improved driver set for the GPU. For those of your reporting 10C temp drop, i doubt that. I could see a drop in temperature of maybe a degree or two depending on what this update does for the GPU.

[Evangelion]

This is quite possible - it's also great to be able to kick the cores into high gear when necessary through Energy Saver.

You can? I don't have that option in my Energy Saver

[DMann]

You can? I don't have that option in my Energy Saver

New MBP 2.4Ghz. LED? In energy saver, choose options, and then 'best performance' from button menu.

[Mr R]

I ordered mine on June 18th and it also arrived 10 days later (28th June). Its the MBP 2.2GHz 15" (glossy) screen. According to the colour profile I have the Samsung display. I actually phoned up to check on the order and they said it was being built/assembled in China.

Just actually ran the pixel checker you mention and all looks fine. :)

This is the first Mac I have bought for home, and I'm really pleased with it.

What brightness should I have the display set at? At the moment its four notches from max but it seems that only at the very maximum levels is it really bright. Definitely no flicker and no signs of yellow. I was just a bit worried about running it at maximum brightness.


I ordered on the UK online store. Both my MBPs shipped from Shanghai. The first I ordered on the 8th June and it arrived on the 18th. The first one had a Samsung display. It had a yellow tint at the bottom of the screen and flickered, especially at lower brightness levels. It also had a dead pixel. I called Apple the following day and they arranged a replacement to be sent. That arrived on the 22nd June. It has the LG display. It is so much better than the Samsung display. No flicker, perfect backlighting, no dead/stuck pixels, and no yellow tint. The screen is extremely bright and the colors are amazingly vibrant. I've owned a 1GHz PowerBook, 1.5GHz PowerBook, 2GHz MBP, 2.33GHz MBP, 1.83GHz MB, 2GHz MB, and many Dells and HPs. The Santa Rosa MBP display I have now easily beats all the previous laptop displays I've seen.



Go to System Preferences->Displays. Click the Color tab and click Open Profile. In the window that opens scroll down to line 13, which is labelled 'mmod' (stands for make and model). Click that line and you'll see the model details. If you have 00009C67 then it's LG. I think the Samsung was 00009C68.

[rbarris]

After installing this update, my warcraft 3 crashes upon start up. Any idea or clues why? Maybe the openGL fix? Any solutions?

Thank you

Please email me any crash logs you can save.

[airforceixi]

After installing this update on my 17" High Res MBP, I can definately see a difference in Unreal Tournament 2004. Previously had to run at 1920x1200 all at "Normal" settings for smooth play. Now it plays fluidly with everything set to the highest settings.

[Sbrocket]

New MBP 2.4Ghz. LED? In energy saver, choose options, and then 'best performance' from button menu.

That doesn't do anything on Intel processors besides adjust the computer and display sleep times in Energy Saver. The "Best Performance" misconception is left over from the PPC age.

Proof: Adjust the time until computer sleep and it switches from "Best Performance" to "Custom." If it actually adjusted the core frequency, what does "Custom" performance mean? It doesn't work out.

[Evangelion]

New MBP 2.4Ghz. LED? In energy saver, choose options, and then 'best performance' from button menu.

In my case, the Options have these radiobuttons:

"Wake for Ethernet...."
"Automatically reduce the brightness of the display...."
"Restart automatically after powerfailure"
"Show battery status in the menubar"

[dokein]

...just glad to read an article that doesn't have anything to do with the iPhone.

[mainomega]

I found this update made my pc run 3 degrees hotter... but the system seems snappier. Anyways, since we figure the drivers were renewed would burning a new bootcamp driver cd also update the drivers in xp or was this just a OSX update. Thanks

17" 2.4 MBP

[Erasmus]

I found this update made my pc run 3 degrees hotter... but the system seems snappier. Anyways, since we figure the drivers were renewed would burning a new bootcamp driver cd also update the drivers in xp or was this just a OSX update. Thanks

17" 2.4 MBP

Just OSX.
As benchmarks have shown, there is nothing wrong with the Bootcamp drivers.

The question is, how much better do things run in OSX now? We know UT2004 runs much better, how about other games?

[bigjohnwoo]

The OpenGL update crashes motion with near 100&#37; consistency on start up on my High Res 17". All my existing motion projects crash upon opening and if I use the "send to motion" command in FCP, it opens motion, and then immediately crashes the application. I had to do a total system reinstall to undo this update.

Just to make sure it was this update and not something else, I backed up my existing project files. Reinstalled OS 10.4.9 from scratch. Reinstalled Motion 3.0 from scratch. I could open the project files.

Then I updated to 10.4.10. I could open the project files.

Then I updated to Motion 3.0.1. I could open the project files.

Finally I updated to Macbook Pro Update 1.0. Motion:CRASHCRASHCRASH. I dutifully filled out the bug reports.

I just got through with all these reinstallations/updates for a second time (skipping the last this time around, of course). I'll wait patiently for MBP update 1.1. Please, Apple.