View Full Version : For all those thinking about going [back] to the Dark Side...

Jul 17, 2003, 12:01 PM
...or if you are a Windows user currently, consider this...


It's always something with them. It's always something.

Jul 17, 2003, 12:09 PM
" The disclosure was unusually embarrassing for Microsoft because it demonstrated the first such serious flaw in the company’s powerful new computer server software, billed as its safest ever.
The software is aimed at large corporate customers and was the first product sold under a high-profile “Trustworthy Computing” initiative organized last year by Microsoft founder Bill Gates.

"The announcement came one day after the Department of Homeland Security announced that it awarded a five-year, $90-million contract for Microsoft to supply all its most important desktop and server software for about 140,000 computers inside the new federal agency."

Jul 17, 2003, 12:17 PM
I have one thing to say to that...


Stoopid M$. Stoopid government. Shoulda' bought Macs.

Jul 17, 2003, 12:19 PM
1. I do not care about Windows, security in Windows is not even a problem for me because there are 300 things I do not like about the system any way.

2. We have to realize that the security problems in Windows doesn't mean OSX is more secure, it means that Windows is more attacked than OSX. I wonder how secure OSX is any way, I bet is not more secure than windows and is equally hackeable. M$ is a very medicre company.

Jul 17, 2003, 12:28 PM
I didnt hear this many security warning against any unix os - eg: Sun Solaris or AIX. The problem is 'buffer overflow' and it is deep inside. It will take many years to patch the big hole. They are improving. Did u ever notice that Winxp's automatic software update pop up every day? Most of them are just security fixes.

Jul 17, 2003, 12:33 PM
Basically, I agree with the gist of your post, but...

My title was designed to direct this as a reminder to people who were posting that they were going to buy Dell laptops because there was no 15" PB update, or a similar move. Not confrontational, but rather a reminder maybe of why they left.

Also, while I'm no expert, I have to think that *nix-based systems have to have more diagnostic tools for finding security flaws than Windows. (Remember the much-dreaded release of "Satan"? That was a program to detect security flaws in Unix systems.) With tools like these, there really must be fewer holes.

Also, it wasn't clear to me why your statement that M$ is a mediocre company is a sequitur to your contention that we don't know just how vulnerable OS X is.

(Oh, and if you read the article, an analyst said that until it was fixed, a system was "like swiss cheese". That's not small potatoes.)

Jul 17, 2003, 12:43 PM
As a person who does use Windows as well (unfortunetely), I can tell you that it is much less secure than OS X. Unix isn't perfect, and neither is OS X, but Windows is, and always has been, incredibly insecure. Even if it wasn't as popular as it is. Ask any computer security expert.

Hackers don't use Unix and Linux because it's less popular.

You can always find holes, but it's easier on Windows machine, and MUCH harder on *nix.

Jul 17, 2003, 01:21 PM
This story is already posted in the Macbytes section.