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MacRumors
Aug 28, 2007, 06:14 PM
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ThinkSecret has posted a gallery (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a527/) of the latest Mac OS X Leopard Build.
Build 9A527, distributed last week to developers, represents a substantial improvement over the previous build, 9A499. On the whole, the build performs faster and has far fewer bugs than before.

They write (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0708leopard9a527.html) that the new build has continuing signs of refinement with high-resolution icons, smaller application sizes and other minor tweaks.




Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/08/28/mac-os-x-leopard-9a527-gallery/)



CJD2112
Aug 28, 2007, 06:24 PM
Looking good, things are slowly shaping up.

psychofreak
Aug 28, 2007, 06:28 PM
Refinement...beautiful refinement...can't wait!

pknz
Aug 28, 2007, 06:29 PM
Sweet more pictures.

AppleiMac
Aug 28, 2007, 06:43 PM
Cool, they're definitely close! I love Leopard, it looks so much more modern then Tiger. A big upgrade for sure.

mark88
Aug 28, 2007, 06:43 PM
Yea, it's looking better each time. I just still don't get the menu bar and the new desktop picture isn't very 'apple'.

Also, the dock looks crap on the side.

psychofreak
Aug 28, 2007, 06:47 PM
Cool, they're definitely close! I love Leopard, it looks so much more modern than Tiger. A big upgrade for sure.There, corrected :)

age234
Aug 28, 2007, 07:03 PM
Yeesh, now the arrows on the Finder back/forward buttons are a few pixels too HIGH.

How hard is it to center something???

ghall
Aug 28, 2007, 07:16 PM
Geez, every build I find something to gripe about. I hate those new close/minimize/resize buttons. :mad:

Everything else looks awesome though.

/dev/toaster
Aug 28, 2007, 07:16 PM
I am rather pissed about the new seed ... what they did to the traffic lights is just terrible (Compared to last seed). I also REALLY hate the new menu bar. I really liked the previous one, it was clean and simple. I hate that line the put under it.

Apple if you are reading this, for the love of god please revert back the menu and traffic lights. (To the previous seed)

iBunny
Aug 28, 2007, 07:19 PM
I really like the Red/Yellow/Green buttons up top of each window. They looks much more colorful and shiny!
:mad: :) :D

cheunghy
Aug 28, 2007, 07:33 PM
http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a527/image/addprinter001.jpg

The selected 'tab' looks similar to that in Coda.

Spaceman Spiff
Aug 28, 2007, 07:47 PM
Was that always the message on the TextEdit icon?

That's awesome!

Wayfarer
Aug 28, 2007, 07:50 PM
I really like the Red/Yellow/Green buttons up top of each window. They looks much more colorful and shiny!
:mad: :) :D

Quoted for post of the day.

elppa
Aug 28, 2007, 07:50 PM
No, there wasn't.

It's the “Here's to the crazy ones” poem!

A nice touch.

http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a527/source/finder020.html

Wayfarer
Aug 28, 2007, 07:56 PM
http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a527/image/system-preferences004.jpg

I thought the dock on the side picture looked amazing!


But I'm still kinda iffy about the new default desktop pic.

Virgil-TB2
Aug 28, 2007, 08:29 PM
I am rather pissed about the new seed ... what they did to the traffic lights is just terrible (Compared to last seed). I also REALLY hate the new menu bar. I really liked the previous one, it was clean and simple. I hate that line the put under it.

Apple if you are reading this, for the love of god please revert back the menu and traffic lights. (To the previous seed)Seconded. :)

I usually don't find much to criticise Apple about in terms of aesthetics, but I am not liking the "cartoony-ness" that making Leopard's GUI more vector based has added to the OS.

Those traffic lights are waay oversaturated, and the shadow detail has been reduced. It's the classic case of the way artists see things as opposed to the way others do. Most people think that "red is red" and probably the brighter or the more red it is the better. They don't understand that all the good colours are in the middle of the colour wheel. I thought Apple got this though. Makes me wonder what happened. :confused:

Don't you think the embossed/engraved items are overdone also? I mean how "fake deep" is the fake engraving supposed to go? Not to mention that way of highlighting something on a tool bar by putting two shaded "cuts" on either side? Yuk! :p

I keep expecting Roger Rabbit's head to pop out from behind one of the windows, or for Corel Draw's artists to come back from the 90's and sue Apple over "common look and feel."

Cougarcat
Aug 28, 2007, 08:43 PM
It seems that the only UI element that hasn't been changed is the aqua checkboxes, sliders, progress bars, and buttons. I'm guessing that they will change to a silvery color to match the dock lights, and the buttons will look like the ones in iPhoto'08's web gallery (the ones that appear in the sheets.) Interestingly, these buttons are in Helvetica--do you think OS X will use this font in replace of Lucida Grande to match the iPhone? It's already present in the new Time Machine prefpane.

SthrnCmfrtr
Aug 28, 2007, 08:46 PM
Anyone know if they've gotten rid of the irritating "feature" of being unable to disable display of certain hours in iCal? Namely the ones in which I am sleeping, since I try to avoid appointments and other scheduled events during that time period?

matticus008
Aug 28, 2007, 08:54 PM
They don't understand that all the good colours are in the middle of the colour wheel. I thought Apple got this though. Makes me wonder what happened.
It's not a mystery. The old style would was muddy and flat, especially taking into consideration requirements for resolution independence. As for being "oversaturated," the base colors are fundamentally the same (which is easily confirmed on machines running the builds), they've just adjusted the glossing and shadow to something that scales better.
I mean how "fake deep" is the fake engraving supposed to go? Not to mention that way of highlighting something on a tool bar by putting two shaded "cuts" on either side?
Actually, the whole thing is shaded. Depth of field is critical on neutral tones. Using a grey background requires exaggeration of features. That said, I think there are other possible ways to show the current tab, but it's not something where you want subtlety. It's supposed to be an immediate visual reference, otherwise it's useless. It's also not clear what you want as the fidelity reference. Certainly a photographic standard doesn't make sense.

AppleiMac
Aug 28, 2007, 09:33 PM
There, corrected :)

Haha, made a mistake there. ;) Thanks for catching it. :)

Iroganai
Aug 28, 2007, 09:33 PM
I loved the pictures ! Come on, Leopard !

Now the problem is one of my Mac, PB G4 12" only has 1GB left in the HD.
How should I install Leopard on it ?

twoodcc
Aug 28, 2007, 09:35 PM
Refinement...beautiful refinement...can't wait!

yeah, i can't wait either. leopard is gonna be good! :)

benlee
Aug 28, 2007, 09:53 PM
looks amazing. No complaints here. The Icons are so detailed its amazing.

iEdd
Aug 28, 2007, 09:54 PM
I am rather pissed about the new seed ... what they did to the traffic lights is just terrible (Compared to last seed). I also REALLY hate the new menu bar. I really liked the previous one, it was clean and simple. I hate that line the put under it.

Apple if you are reading this, for the love of god please revert back the menu and traffic lights. (To the previous seed)

That's just funny. The traffic light buttons are barely lighter than the current ones (they are more futuristic though) and the menu bar doesn't have any more or less of a line under it in Leopard than it does in Tiger. Your entitled to your opinion, but these are really insignificant things. Maybe I've missed something with the menu bar, which picture are you referring to?

DoFoT9
Aug 28, 2007, 09:57 PM
WOW tht looks amazing. i love tht u can zoom in and hve no pixelation. woohoo for vectors!

AeronPrometheus
Aug 28, 2007, 10:03 PM
I have a curiousity question, Think Secret points out that Internet Connect is gone, good.

I have a friend who uses Sherlock, one of the final hold outs from OS 9 still on OS X. Lately he's been reporting to me that Sherlocks search results are rather thin. Tell me, whomever can, is Sherlock still there in the newest build of Leopard. Evidence would suggest that they're phasing it out.

Taylor C
Aug 28, 2007, 10:08 PM
Omg Tiger looks olllldddddddd now. Leopard's really shaping up.

ortuno2k
Aug 28, 2007, 10:26 PM
It's true that the new Desktop Background doesn't feel very Apple-ish, but I have it installed and I'm using it now!

So far, looks great - can't wait 'till it comes out! No complaints here.
I'm glad they got rid of that clear menu bar, and that awful grass background. The rest of the cosmetics look neat.

Toe
Aug 28, 2007, 10:31 PM
Way to go Apple, not only did they have all the high-res artwork to make this bigger, but high-res makes the kid not so creepy anymore. (I mean, don't ya hate the creepy look on the kid's eyes in Tiger?)

Tiger -- -- ---- -- ---- -- ---- -- ---- -- -- Leopard

funkychunkz
Aug 28, 2007, 10:52 PM
I completely took the look of the old stoplights for granted-- the ones in the new build look awful (aside: I vote them for the weirdest feature of the mac OS, I mean really, three colourful bubbles??)

While most thing are looking good to me, the default 'look' of leopard generally looks too washed out with light, and is awkward to look at because some of the most mundane but most used features lack depth and definition (like the window control).

For what it's worth, I happen to be a fan of Window's window control (I guess if they do something right, it's no wonder that it's in the name..windows does windows) and wouldn't mind a feature that would let me tile out all my open windows from a certain app.. or an assign-key-to-window function so I can bring up references then switch back to my document instantly. Spaces is good and all... but I do do a lot at once.

So ya..Apple if you does listen to prayers.. :p

arkmannj
Aug 28, 2007, 10:56 PM
Lookin' good... but here's the big question.... Have they updated Chess ?
this poor forgotten little app feels a bit neglected, all the attention going to things like "Finder", "Time Machine", and all these other fancy-pants things, but what about poor old Chess ?

DanB91
Aug 28, 2007, 11:16 PM
I love this new GUI.
im not gonna nit pick and say this sad depressed blue should be a happy blue

'nuff said

superspiffy
Aug 28, 2007, 11:18 PM
Lookin' good... but here's the big question....what about poor old Chess ?

what about it?

lol I meant what else can they possibly do to improve a chess program? I didn't even know OS X had games until I came across your post. Then I checked my Apps folder and lo and behold! There's a chess program! I think instead, they should add more games. Go anybody?

psychofreak
Aug 28, 2007, 11:23 PM
I think instead, they should add more games. Go anybody?

Most Macs come with a set of 'Big Bang' games...

Analog Kid
Aug 28, 2007, 11:38 PM
Whelp, this gallery succeeded in getting me psyched for the new release! I mean I was always looking forward to Time Machine, but nothing else grabbed me. Now I'm looking forward to using it day to day.

Still don't like the menubar, still don't like the monochrome icons, I don't much care about the traffic lights, and I kinda dig the toolbar indication.

Dumb and random question: Anybody know who the woman is in the Photobooth icon?

Wonder what it's like to be an icon...

arkmannj
Aug 28, 2007, 11:44 PM
what about it?

lol I meant what else can they possibly do to improve a chess program? I think they should add more games. I didn't even know OS X had games until I came across your post. Then I checked my Apps folder and lo and behold! There's a chess program! I think instead, they should add more games. Go anybody?

Mostly I was just joking around, but now you really got me thinking..
Did you ever play "Battle Chess" back in the day (The Harry Potter books called the same concept "Wizards Chess") That would be nice, or just some general spiffing up, more board/piece/style options I guess. Being able to invte (and start) a game of Chess over iChat would be cool.

I know I can do this my own, but it would be nice if the Applications Folder has sub-folders by default. I always break mine up like so:
* Games (For Games!)
* Media (For apps like VLC, Win Media Player, etc.)
* Press ( Office, iWork, Adobe apps, other print/web related apps)
* Utilities

I'm not saying they use my naming convention necessarily, I've just used that since early 90's. but it would be nice to have it broken up by default.

And as you said, a couple other small games would be nice, I almost always load on a couple freebies like tux-racer, a solitaire game, and some bejeweled type game.

DoFoT9
Aug 28, 2007, 11:53 PM
Way to go Apple, not only did they have all the high-res artwork to make this bigger, but high-res makes the kid not so creepy anymore. (I mean, don't ya hate the creepy look on the kid's eyes in Tiger?)

Tiger -- -- ---- -- ---- -- ---- -- ---- -- -- Leopard

wow that really highlights the difference!!! that is sooo much clearer now :)
lol and that kid isnt creepy nemore, i never noticed until then..

Zwhaler
Aug 29, 2007, 12:33 AM
These Leopard builds are looking better and better every time. I love those hi-res icons...

exigentsky
Aug 29, 2007, 03:24 AM
Lookin' good... but here's the big question.... Have they updated Chess ?
this poor forgotten little app feels a bit neglected, all the attention going to things like "Finder", "Time Machine", and all these other fancy-pants things, but what about poor old Chess ?

It's an elementary OS game (although it uses the Deep Sjeng chess engine). I doubt they did anything for it. If you really like chess, try Sigma Chess.

willybNL
Aug 29, 2007, 04:07 AM
Could someone confirm that iCal still doesn't display week numbers? (quite un-usefull in business then).

products7074740
Aug 29, 2007, 07:12 AM
does anyone know if halo online multiplayer mode still doesnt work? I thin kit was the gamespy engine that wouldn't work.

chelsel
Aug 29, 2007, 08:39 AM
New icons and some backup software... I hope there's a better reason to upgrade than this!?

unknown87
Aug 29, 2007, 08:49 AM
Oh c'mon! Clearly if you'd bother doing some research (maybe the Apple website?), you'd know that this isn't the case...

lukeisme09
Aug 29, 2007, 09:22 AM
Dock and hi res icons looking good. For all of those that are complaining about the traffic lights.... Get over it

BP624
Aug 29, 2007, 09:32 AM
Where can i get the vortex wallpaper?

arkmannj
Aug 29, 2007, 09:37 AM
Dock and hi res icons looking good. For all of those that are complaining about the traffic lights.... Get over it

I'd assume you could still change the apearance to graphite...Right ?
I personally like the colors, I identify with colors much faster and at a glance than I do symbols.

vendettabass
Aug 29, 2007, 10:14 AM
Leopard looks SLICK :D

elppa
Aug 29, 2007, 10:29 AM
New icons and some backup software... I hope there's a better reason to upgrade than this!?

The whole will be greater than the some of it's parts.

Some of the new frameworks will see some amazing apps produced.

BP624
Aug 29, 2007, 10:35 AM
Where can i get the vortex wallpaper?

Toe
Aug 29, 2007, 10:49 AM
New icons and some backup software... I hope there's a better reason to upgrade than this!?
$129 for the best interface ever on what looks like some supreme backup software is quite an excellent price. Then throw in massive Finder improvements (stacks, quicklook, coverflow, spaces, and so on), a huge improvement to iCal and to Mail, and three hundred other refinements (http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/features/), and you have a heck of a deal. (I mean, just the addition of Core Animation is going to significantly change the way you interact with your computer.)

People have paid a lot more ($175 to $340) for a lot less (Windows Vista).

What backup software did they get with their $340 purchase? Oh, here it is (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/features/details/backup.mspx) (and note that it's only available on the expensive versions of Windows, not the "cheap" $175 version). How much would you pay to upgrade a piece of crap like that to an awesome tool like Time Machine? Negative $210?

vohdoun
Aug 29, 2007, 10:57 AM
Where can i get the vortex wallpaper?

http://tuxlink.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/leopard_fondo_espacialwide.jpg



Why do they arse up the traffic lights but make nice ones for an icon...

This below would have been extremely slick, same if they followed the titlebar gradient in that little image.

T-Mac
Aug 29, 2007, 10:57 AM
As one who is waiting for Leopard to purchase my first Mac, my anticipation is growing with every new piece of information. I think it is starting to look very polished and more like an upgrade rather than an update!

Callaway
Aug 29, 2007, 11:17 AM
As one who is waiting for Leopard to purchase my first Mac, my anticipation is growing with every new piece of information. I think it is starting to look very polished and more like an upgrade rather than an update!


*shrug* you're saving $129 dollars or so (I could be off on the pricing). Tiger still is a great os.

BP624
Aug 29, 2007, 01:56 PM
http://tuxlink.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/leopard_fondo_espacialwide.jpg



Thanx.

zakatov
Aug 29, 2007, 02:34 PM
Finally changed the Display icon in system pref to reflect the current models

Iroganai
Aug 29, 2007, 02:49 PM
Is the `My computer' icon in the Finder still iMac G4 ???

Toe
Aug 29, 2007, 03:29 PM
What backup software did they get with their $340 purchase? Oh, here it is (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/features/details/backup.mspx) (and note that it's only available on the expensive versions of Windows, not the "cheap" $175 version).

Clarification: it's only partially available on "Home Premium." I guess home users don't need system restores?

:eek:Click for Microsoft's insane, stick-it-to-ya version comparison (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/choose.mspx):eek:

djejrejk
Aug 29, 2007, 03:39 PM
http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a527/image/addprinter001.jpg

The selected 'tab' looks similar to that in Coda.

Yeah, that is the first feature of the new UI that really makes me gag... makes the toolbar seem cluttered IMO. Hope they change it.. just for me. ;) Overall, I think Leopard looks really nice,.. the unified interface looks great,.. I plan on purchasing it the day it is released.

Toe
Aug 29, 2007, 03:47 PM
Yeah, that is the first feature of the new UI that really makes me gag... makes the toolbar seem cluttered IMO. Hope they change it.. just for me. ;) Overall, I think Leopard looks really nice,.. the unified interface looks great,.. I plan on purchasing it the day it is released.
You could buy it right now (http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Mac-Version-10-5-Leopard/dp/B000FK88JK). You just can't have it until October. ;)

johnnyjibbs
Aug 29, 2007, 04:01 PM
I think it all looks great. One thing I would love to see though is some kind of neat (but quick) window draw effect similar to the one I have seen in Vista. Rather than a new window draw itself slightly awkwardly, why not have it fade in and slightly enlarge from 95% zoom - and all in 0.2 of a second so that it doesn't waste time, but enough to really highlight whereabouts the window is appearing. That would be awesome.!

Muzzway
Aug 29, 2007, 08:46 PM
That pink menu bar may turn off some people... I think the whole thing is looking good myself overall.

http://tuxlink.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/leopard_fondo_espacialwide.jpg



Why do they arse up the traffic lights but make nice ones for an icon...

This below would have been extremely slick, same if they followed the titlebar gradient in that little image.

I agree, those look much better.

zap2
Aug 29, 2007, 08:48 PM
I'm eager, but I want it to be done right...in a way I'm glad Apple delayed it. I mean I'd like it now, but if its not ready, whats the point?

Rom Rim
Aug 29, 2007, 09:13 PM
Ha! What do I see here? NeXTSTEP had darker title bars for active windows and lighter title bars for inactive ones. Jagwire had pinstripe title bars and transparent/translucent. Panther had who knew what. Tiger had a bit of both. Now the latest alley cat is going back to what NeXTSTEP had in the beginning. In fact the whole system is getting a NeXTSTEP feel about it.

Shows you how far you really get in 10 years. :D

But I don't care how it looks - I care how it works. And right now I'm not happy. No one has reason to be.

Pass the Kool-Aid.

PS. It amazes me that not a one of you discuss the underbody, the important features. I guess that more or less shows what your level of expertise is. Discuss the look of the windows? Sorry but that's pathetic.

Now pass the Kook-Aid back again please.

matticus008
Aug 29, 2007, 09:25 PM
PS. It amazes me that not a one of you discuss the underbody, the important features. I guess that more or less shows what your level of expertise is. Discuss the look of the windows? Sorry but that's pathetic.
You're a newbie, so maybe you haven't gotten the hang of the whole "topical thread" thing yet. This is about what Leopard looks like, and your none-too-subtle clue to that is the collection of images being the entire content of the posting.

There are plenty of places discussing the nuts and bolts. In fact, there's a big, fat article just a little lower on the page. Perhaps instead you should be asking to pass some reading glasses and should lay off the Kool-Aid for a while until your sugar high wears off so you can pay attention.

Musubi
Aug 29, 2007, 10:10 PM
Is the `My computer' icon in the Finder still iMac G4 ???
They've reimplemented something similar to the way System 7 (and earlier) used to show the machine type information in the About This Macintosh dialog; the computer icon is now representative of the system you are using.

Taylor C
Aug 29, 2007, 10:33 PM
I love the new interface more and more each time I look at it. October can't come soon enough.

bousozoku
Aug 30, 2007, 12:10 AM
Ha! What do I see here? NeXTSTEP had darker title bars for active windows and lighter title bars for inactive ones. Jagwire had pinstripe title bars and transparent/translucent. Panther had who knew what. Tiger had a bit of both. Now the latest alley cat is going back to what NeXTSTEP had in the beginning. In fact the whole system is getting a NeXTSTEP feel about it.

Shows you how far you really get in 10 years. :D

But I don't care how it looks - I care how it works. And right now I'm not happy. No one has reason to be.

Pass the Kool-Aid.

PS. It amazes me that not a one of you discuss the underbody, the important features. I guess that more or less shows what your level of expertise is. Discuss the look of the windows? Sorry but that's pathetic.

Now pass the Kook-Aid back again please.

Why should everyone have to be technical? Most Mac users aren't technical and don't need to be. Besides, I haven't seen any useful information about what's included in Leopard and it's tough to discuss what's not been disclosed.

I'm happy that Apple moved to a more stable and useful platform and fortunately, they keep replacing the internals until the operating system is actually good. Perhaps, Leopard will be better, finally.

elchicano99
Aug 30, 2007, 06:38 AM
Leopard looks so so so crappy! Windows 3.1 was a huge improvement over this piece of garbage... where's the start-menu? THERE IS NONE! Where's the intricate and immersing Registry Editor? THERE IS NONE! Seriously guys, you only like OS X because you haven't used Windows enough obviously, you are all so naive. Vista is so frickin cool! You can cycle through your open apps with a cool 3D effect called Aero, and you have awesome Gadgets right on your desktop! I hear OS X has stupid widgets or something but they sound aweful. Honestly guys, give Windows a try, it'll blow you away.
:apple: sucks ass.

elchicano99
Aug 30, 2007, 06:43 AM
Tee hee... i'm kidding by the way, I mean... obviously... don't strike me down! :p

I can't wait for Leopard! Does anyone know if the speed increases will be felt for us PPC users? or mainly just for you intellies? Cuz I could seriously use a speed boost...

P.S... sorry if I made all your blood collectively boil , I couldn't resist :D

AdeFowler
Aug 30, 2007, 08:24 AM
That pink menu bar may turn off some people
It's not pink - just transparent. If you use a blue desktop, the menu bar will be light blue.
Anyone know if they've gotten rid of the irritating "feature" of being unable to disable display of certain hours in iCal? Namely the ones in which I am sleeping, since I try to avoid appointments and other scheduled events during that time period?
Unless I misunderstand you, it's already possible to set the start and end time for your days, thus not showing your sleep time. Afternoon naps may be a problem though ;)

ChaosAngel
Aug 30, 2007, 08:40 AM
I also think it is looking great. IMO it gets better with every new seed.

One thing though, how is the performance? Im a G4 (Last PB Revision) user and want to know how Leopard will be running?

Anyone got any performance data yet or is there debugging stuff enabled that is currently slowing it down?

vohdoun
Aug 30, 2007, 09:35 AM
That pink menu bar may turn off some people... I think the whole thing is looking good myself overall.


Bare in mind that the pink is coming from the wallpaper. Which will give you the illusion that the menubar is pink.

Truthfully I think that space wall is awful, and it really does not compliment the whole look at all.

You'd think Apple could create better space walls. I've seen better space walls from hobbyists.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5458/picture7rz9.th.png (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture7rz9.png) http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9407/picture6sy8.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture6sy8.jpg) http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5118/picture1fw6.th.png (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1fw6.png)

It's not pink - just transparent. If you use a blue desktop, the menu bar will be light blue.


It seems strange about that. Like the menubar seems to bump up the contrast or hue when something is below it rather than the neutral colour of whatever image is below.

Blue seems to become cyan like and so on...

billyboy
Aug 30, 2007, 12:25 PM
Apart from the weirdness of the 3-d dock on the side of the screen, it looks really sharp. I just upgraded to Tiger and I'm loving it, so Leopard should be something else again. (I assume Leopard will work on an 867 MHz Titanium Powerbook with more lifting paint than a burnt out car wreck?)

Iroganai
Aug 30, 2007, 03:15 PM
the computer icon is now representative of the system you are using.
Thanks, that's nice ! Then there's no need to replace the icon file deep inside /System/CoreServices/ anymore to show the Mac I'm using in the Finder :)

johnnyjibbs
Aug 31, 2007, 03:07 AM
I love the new menu bar now that Apple has made it more opaque. Now it is much more readable and looks slick, especially when there's an ever-so-slight blur going on with the detail behind it. I've gone from Leopard menu bar sceptic to advocate! :)

Bring on October! :D

Ben Logan
Aug 31, 2007, 11:20 AM
Ditto on the menu bar. I like it. Not to sound reductionist, but it reminds me of Ubuntu (second best OS out there, imo).

I do miss the rounded edges on the menu-bar though. The rounded edges are one of the key little visual cues that remind me I'm on a mac. Hope they bring those back.

I like the new brighter colored traffic lights, but they don't seem to be "embedded" in the window frame. Rather, they seem to be sort of pasted-atop. Hope those get polishing.

I don't hate the little blue lights that indicate a running application nearly as much as others. I welcome the change, although the triangles do a better job of clearly indicating what's open and what's not.

Have fun with it.

Toe
Aug 31, 2007, 02:44 PM
Yea, it's looking better each time. I just still don't get the menu bar and the new desktop picture isn't very 'apple'.
I think pretty much everyone agrees on this. Apple should be embarrassed. What were they thinking?

I'd encourage anyone who thinks the Leopard default is cheesy to go to http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/ and tell them that.

I did so and recommended they choose a pic from:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html
where there are a ton of awesome space pics.

Don't you think one of these would be a million times better?
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070719.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070724.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap051222.html

...and so on...

djejrejk
Aug 31, 2007, 04:29 PM
You could buy it right now (http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Mac-Version-10-5-Leopard/dp/B000FK88JK). You just can't have it until October. ;)

I know, I would rather pick it up at an Apple store.

exigentsky
Sep 1, 2007, 02:36 AM
I think pretty much everyone agrees on this. Apple should be embarrassed. What were they thinking?

I'd encourage anyone who thinks the Leopard default is cheesy to go to http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/ and tell them that.

I did so and recommended they choose a pic from:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html
where there are a ton of awesome space pics.

Don't you think one of these would be a million times better?
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070719.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070724.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap051222.html

...and so on...

WOW! This one: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0512/m31_gendler_Nmosaic1.jpg is pure awesomeness. :p I really like it, thanks. The fact that it's real makes it even cooler.

BTW: I'm 99% sure Apple's is not real.

GSMiller
Sep 5, 2007, 09:27 PM
Ditto on the menu bar. I like it. Not to sound reductionist, but it reminds me of Ubuntu (second best OS out there, imo).

I do miss the rounded edges on the menu-bar though. The rounded edges are one of the key little visual cues that remind me I'm on a mac. Hope they bring those back.

I like the new brighter colored traffic lights, but they don't seem to be "embedded" in the window frame. Rather, they seem to be sort of pasted-atop. Hope those get polishing.

I don't hate the little blue lights that indicate a running application nearly as much as others. I welcome the change, although the triangles do a better job of clearly indicating what's open and what's not.

Have fun with it.

I can't agree more about the rounded menu bar. The top corners of all windows are rounded so it only makes sense for the top corners of the main screen be rounded as well. Hopefully the guys/gals in Cupertino realize this and fix it.