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Gus
Aug 11, 2003, 05:19 PM
Looks like this might stick this time.

http://money.excite.com/ht/nw/bus/20030811/hle_bus-n11205926.html

I really don't know much about the case, but I am familiar with the tech.

Regards,
Gus

agreenster
Aug 11, 2003, 06:13 PM
Serves the bastards right. Im so sick of MS swiping everyone's good ideas without giving them credit. In my opinion, swipe away, but you MUST give credit by buying the technology.

Powerbook G5
Aug 11, 2003, 06:25 PM
Every once in a while I try giving them benefit of the doubt, and then something like this pops up. I swear, I cannot even begin to imagine how much more they have gotten away with. This is one of the many reasons I was more than happy to make the switch to Apple and never regretted it from day one.

crenz
Aug 11, 2003, 07:51 PM
*sigh* Another case of questionable software patents enforced...

irmongoose
Aug 11, 2003, 11:17 PM
What's pissing me off even more is that the jury only gave Eolas half of what they asked for...



irmongoose

Gus
Aug 11, 2003, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by crenz
*sigh* Another case of questionable software patents enforced...

I'm not disputing your statement, but what , in your opinion, exactly is "questionable" about the patents thhat were enforced?

Regards,
Gus

Stella
Aug 12, 2003, 06:12 AM
Microsoft have nothing to worry about.

When they appeal, the courts will overturn this decision and MS will get off scott-free and be free to continue to rip off another company.

It always happens...

dabirdwell
Aug 12, 2003, 09:27 AM
Ashcroft will take a break from busting pot-using cancer patients long enough to squash this.

wdlove
Aug 12, 2003, 11:24 AM
Maybe this time Microsoft will have to pay. At some point their good fortune is bound to change.

e-coli
Aug 12, 2003, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by agreenster
Serves the bastards right. Im so sick of MS swiping everyone's good ideas without giving them credit. In my opinion, swipe away, but you MUST give credit by buying the technology.


Like Apple ripping off Watson and not paying for it?

patrick0brien
Aug 12, 2003, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by e-coli
Like Apple ripping off Watson and not paying for it?

-e-coli

Only if there was a patent infringed upon. Without that, the creators of Watson don't have a legal leg - regardless of who was the first to write the idea.

I hope that Jonas Salling has applied for patents on his Salling Clicker (http://homepage.mac.com/jonassalling/Shareware/) Product.

Simple abstract for the claim of patent: "Use of a mobile computing, communication, or other personal digital devise to control the actions of a personal computer - not limited to "desktop", "laptop", or "notebook" definitions through the transmission of short range radio frequency such as but not limited to "BlueTooth", or IEEE 802.11 protocols."

That should nail it down for the future when MS tried to rip him off for the Windows world - and would preven skirting infringement via circumvension with WiFi or "G".

MrMacMan
Aug 12, 2003, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by dabirdwell
Ashcroft will take a break from busting pot-using cancer patients long enough to squash this.

Damn dying cancer patients!

:(

I can't even believe they are going after them, so sad.

But really if this company owned the abality to 'plug in' an applet wouldn't this affect every main stream browser... ever?

:confused:

VIREBEL661
Aug 13, 2003, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by wdlove
Maybe this time Microsoft will have to pay. At some point their good fortune is bound to change.

Even so, this is really nothing to a company with as much $ in the bank as m$....

patrick0brien
Aug 13, 2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
But really if this company owned the abality to 'plug in' an applet wouldn't this affect every main stream browser... ever?

-MrMacman

Yes, absolutely. Unless they are licensees of the technology - which is how the system works (I think NCSA was - therefore Mosaic and Netscape)

MS lost because they literally stole the tech - not license, not even recognition.


-VIREBEL661

It's not the dollar amount - well, maybe a little, $521m does hit even MS - it's the cracks in the armor. Every case MS loses, sets a precedence for the next.

Vlade
Aug 13, 2003, 10:02 AM
To bad a half a billion dollars to MS is like 50 dollars to me...

MacViolinist
Aug 15, 2003, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by irmongoose
What's pissing me off even more is that the jury only gave Eolas half of what they asked for...



irmongoose


Keep in mind that when you are dealing with a jury, you are dealing with the dullest knives in the drawer: people so dumb they can't get out of jury duty.

themadchemist
Aug 15, 2003, 12:44 PM
sweet! take that, microsloth.

patrick0brien
Aug 15, 2003, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by MacViolinist
Keep in mind that when you are dealing with a jury, you are dealing with the dullest knives in the drawer: people so dumb they can't get out of jury duty.

-MacViolinist

Well, I'll give them this: They're smarter than some folks at the DOJ. Some can only roll over, play dead, and "arf".

Capt Underpants
Aug 15, 2003, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Vlade
To bad a half a billion dollars to MS is like 50 dollars to me...

Exactly. That was pocket change to M$ and the only reason they defended, IMO, was to try and keep a good name (too late).