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MacRumors
Sep 5, 2007, 04:07 PM
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Apple has posted (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/specialevent0907/) the quicktime stream for today's event, which introduced a number of new/revised items:

- iPod Shuffle (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/09/05/new-ipod-story-1/)
- iPod Nano (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/09/05/new-ipod-story-2/)
- iPod Classic (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/09/05/new-ipod-story-3/)
- iPod Touch (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/09/05/announced-at-apple-september-5-special-event/)
- WiFi iTunes (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/09/05/itunes-wifi-music-store-announced-one-more-thing/)
- iTunes with Ringtone Support (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/09/05/new-itunes-released/)
- Apple/Starbucks Partnership (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/09/05/apple-announces-starbucks-partnership/)
- 8GB iPhone Price Drop (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/09/05/8gb-iphone-price-drop-4gb-iphone-discontinued/)

Some additional details, photos

- iPod Touch Guided Tour video (http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/guidedtour/)
- iPod Touch hands-on video (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/first-ipod-touch-video-hands-on-296455.php), iPod Touch Gallery (http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/05/ipod-touch-first-hands-on/), Another Gallery (http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/05/ipod-touch-first-hands-on/)
- iPod Nano Gallery (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/ipod-nano-hands-on-296715.php), Another Gallery (http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/05/ipod-nano-3g-first-hands-on/)


Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/09/05/apple-posts-quicktime-stream-for-beat-goes-on-event/)



beaker26
Sep 5, 2007, 04:08 PM
The Touch makes the iPhone look huge.

Daveway
Sep 5, 2007, 04:09 PM
That was quick. Its not even up on Apple.com yet.

Wait....the stream references to the iMac intro....

Proper link:
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/s83522y/event/index.html

EricNau
Sep 5, 2007, 04:09 PM
It's still linking to the keynote stream from August.

JosephEsquivel
Sep 5, 2007, 04:10 PM
its the old one, the iMac one

Derekuda
Sep 5, 2007, 04:12 PM
ABOUT FREAKIN TIME!!!! DOES IT REALLY TAKE 4 HOURS TO UPLOAD A FREAKIN VIDEO! I Held out and now i can finally enjoy this!

EricNau
Sep 5, 2007, 04:12 PM
This will link to the correct stream (even though the page appears exactly the same):

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/s83522y/event/index.html

MrCrowbar
Sep 5, 2007, 04:16 PM
This will link to the correct stream (even though the page appears exactly the same):

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/s83522y/event/index.html

Indeed. Thanks

~Shard~
Sep 5, 2007, 04:16 PM
ABOUT FREAKIN TIME!!!! DOES IT REALLY TAKE 4 HOURS TO UPLOAD A FREAKIN VIDEO! I Held out and now i can finally enjoy this!

Um, it's a video. And it didn't take that long to post. Patience is a virtue. The world isn't coming to and end. Chill. :rolleyes:

Great to see that this has been posted, I'm looking forward to watching it. :)

mwp98223
Sep 5, 2007, 04:16 PM
The "touch" video is interesting.

It is talking disembodied head and hands. LOL

(Black turtleneck on black background doesn't work to well).

petvas
Sep 5, 2007, 04:18 PM
This will link to the correct stream (even though the page appears exactly the same):

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/s83522y/event/index.html

Yes but the resolution is only 320x240. Is there a bigger version also available?

beaker26
Sep 5, 2007, 04:22 PM
ABOUT FREAKIN TIME!!!! DOES IT REALLY TAKE 4 HOURS TO UPLOAD A FREAKIN VIDEO! I Held out and now i can finally enjoy this!

I doubt getting a video online of something heavily blogged to death was something Apple was in a hurry to do today.

zedsdead
Sep 5, 2007, 04:32 PM
The video link keeps reloading...happeing to anyone else?

hob
Sep 5, 2007, 04:38 PM
I've been watching no worries the past 25 minutes...

guess this link just got macrumour'ed...

ariel
Sep 5, 2007, 04:39 PM
i'm getting the Aug 7th iMac intro video via that link at this time

un1ty
Sep 5, 2007, 04:40 PM
Anybody have a link for the high res version?

illitrate23
Sep 5, 2007, 04:47 PM
i always wonder, when watching the keynote vids, why Steve doesn't have a more Apple-like clicker. i would have thought he'd have got something a bit like the apple remote, or a shuffle or something - a bit of extra product placement

DsurioN
Sep 5, 2007, 04:58 PM
The quality is usually low when they initially post it so that they can handle the increased bandwidth better. The next day it is normally up to full quality. The link posted on the homepage is invalid, by the way. Here is the correct one:

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/keynote/

(links to the edgesuite link ppl have posted higher up)

el greenerino
Sep 5, 2007, 05:13 PM
what's the name of the song in the nano commerical?

Doctor Q
Sep 5, 2007, 05:17 PM
I liked watching Steve groove to the music in his ringtones. Let's give him tap shoes or an air guitar the next time.

Merom MacBook
Sep 5, 2007, 05:37 PM
The quality is usually low when they initially post it so that they can handle the increased bandwidth better. The next day it is normally up to full quality. The link posted on the homepage is invalid, by the way. Here is the correct one:

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/keynote/

(links to the edgesuite link ppl have posted higher up)


I viewed the page source and copied the URL of the QT ref movie:

http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/sep/s83522y/m_63827621b_220_ref.mov

then I changed it to this:

http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/sep/s83522y/m_63827621b_650_ref.mov

Save the linked QT ref file to disk and open with QuickTime for the 650 stream instead of the 220.

DavisCollins
Sep 5, 2007, 05:39 PM
what's the name of the song in the nano commerical?

1234 by Feist

the vj
Sep 5, 2007, 05:42 PM
The iPod touch doesn't even have a camera. Too little memory, too expensive. At least the camera would do.

the1andonlytip
Sep 5, 2007, 05:47 PM
Does anyone else think the iphone price drop was very suprising? I bought one on opening day and do not regret it one bit but it still kinda makes me a little mad it has dropped $200 dollars. Its only been two months, think how long it USUALLY takes video game consoles to drop. And to already get rid of the 4gb?! I understand this is what companies do to get more business but it just seems like its a little early and might not go over to well with previous iphone buyers. I cant stand people who say "im waiting till the price drops" on technology because you could sit around and wait a lifetime and iphones will probably be free with contracts some day but what do you guys think about the quick price drop?

amac4me
Sep 5, 2007, 05:48 PM
Watching now. Will swing by the Apple Store this weekend and pick up an iPod Touch :D

atowntx512
Sep 5, 2007, 05:49 PM
Cant say I'm mad about the price drop because I got mine for free but easy on my pocket when I get my wife one. Does this mean someone is going to sue Apple becuase they didnt disclose to customers that the price was going to be dropped? LOL!! I will have seen everything if that happens...

iLionel
Sep 5, 2007, 05:52 PM
Err, good luck with that they arn't shipping until the 28th...

Dammit i can't decide which iPod to get now.. :D

Stopsignguy
Sep 5, 2007, 05:52 PM
you cant it doesnt come out until around September 28th, from what I saw on the estimated shipping date when I tried to order one.

Digitaljim
Sep 5, 2007, 05:54 PM
Has Apple lost it?

None of these designs appeal to me aesthetically. Same goes for the recent hideous iMac redesign. I won't be investing.

The golden age of Apple design is most definitely over.

homeboy
Sep 5, 2007, 06:06 PM
Does anyone else think the iphone price drop was very suprising? I bought one on opening day and do not regret it one bit but it still kinda makes me a little mad it has dropped $200 dollars. Its only been two months, think how long it USUALLY takes video game consoles to drop. And to already get rid of the 4gb?! I understand this is what companies do to get more business but it just seems like its a little early and might not go over to well with previous iphone buyers. I cant stand people who say "im waiting till the price drops" on technology because you could sit around and wait a lifetime and iphones will probably be free with contracts some day but what do you guys think about the quick price drop?

The iPhone is nothing but a 15 minute cash cow. The iPhone is actually an iPod with phone functionality. The whole touch screen thing was meant for the iPod. Steve has said himself that the cell phone industry comes third after the iPods.

iPhone was a gimmick for Apple to gain more exposure and cash in big bucks in a short period of time. Apple is a very clever company and this 200 dollar price cut after one month and a few days is not random. It was planned all along.

Mgkwho
Sep 5, 2007, 06:15 PM
Waahh it's not high-quality waahh.

-=|Mgkwho

headfuzz
Sep 5, 2007, 06:16 PM
None of these designs appeal to me aesthetically.

That new nano design must've used up a whole family size pack of fugly. ftl :(

slimsakus
Sep 5, 2007, 06:29 PM
Did anyone notice when he was talking about the TV shows, he said.."we have sold just shy of 100 million tv shows"...on the screen comes 95 million number and he says...95 thousand. Lol...maybe he was just a little too excited to show the new stuff. Kinda funny.

s10
Sep 5, 2007, 06:37 PM
It's so much fun reading all the posts from complaining iPhone users about the price drop... clearly they're all here for their own interest and not for Apple being successful as a company.

New products always cost more.. cars even sell for more than advertised when they come out... and then prices drop.. how quickly depends on how successful the product is. Apple is not different from other phone makers, Nokia does the same, Moto does, LC does...

Apple can afford to lower the price by $200 because of several reasons: instead of 2 models the offer just one, making a lot of things easier for suppliers and shops and this translates in a cost reduction.

AND using many of the ingredients from the iPhone in the new iPod touch.. by this they will increase the amount of the same components, which means lower prices for those components and Apple can reduce the price of the finished product even more.

slimsakus
Sep 5, 2007, 06:46 PM
It's so much fun reading all the posts from complaining iPhone users about the price drop... clearly they're all here for their own interest and not for Apple being successful as a company.

New products always cost more.. cars even sell for more than advertised when they come out... and then prices drop.. how quickly depends on how successful the product is. Apple is not different from other phone makers, Nokia does the same, Moto does, LC does...

Apple can afford to lower the price by $200 because of several reasons: instead of 2 models the offer just one, making a lot of things easier for suppliers and shops and this translates in a cost reduction.

AND using many of the ingredients from the iPhone in the new iPod touch.. by this they will increase the amount of the same components, which means lower prices for those components and Apple can reduce the price of the finished product even more.

You pretty much nailed economies of production on the head.

jouster
Sep 5, 2007, 06:46 PM
Has Apple lost it?

None of these designs appeal to me aesthetically. Same goes for the recent hideous iMac redesign. I won't be investing.

The golden age of Apple design is most definitely over.

I would say it's just beginning.

bigmc6000
Sep 5, 2007, 06:48 PM
Semi off topic here but does the Touch not have a speaker? If that's the case I'm infinitely glad I bought an iPhone - it's just murder to have something that beautiful and not be able to show it to friends or anything... I understand the no speaker in the classic as the screen is still tiny but the iPod touch? Come on!! Eh well - I've got an iPhone and wasn't in the market for a new iPod anyway as I have a First gen 1GB Shuffle and an 80GB 5.5G black iPod.

shawnce
Sep 5, 2007, 07:03 PM
I would say it's just beginning.

I think folks should actually pick one up and try it before judging things. :D

aliquis-
Sep 5, 2007, 07:06 PM
iPod Shuffle: Same old, lame, don't care at all.
iPod Nano: Decent price for the features, iAudio D2 and similair still owns it.
iPod Classic: More space is ok I guess.
iPod Touch: Why get it when you can get an iPhone for $100 which is way cooler and then remove that stupid company lock.

Ringtones: This is so gay it doesn't even deserv to be mentioned, it sucks and should be free. Way to not go Apple, you always do the wrong thing.

joepunk
Sep 5, 2007, 07:11 PM
I'll miss the orange/tangerine shuffle.

I think the new nano will grow on me. Was afraid that it was going to have a plastic outer shell like the old iPods or the M$ zune.

I really like the new iPod Classics what with their metal shells. Been waiting for that ever since the first mini iPods.

Might get a Touch iPod just for the heck of it.

alana22
Sep 5, 2007, 07:12 PM
I got an iPhone the day it came out, and today I learned that a new gadget that is virtually an iPhone (sans phone capability and camera) was released. My reaction? Duh! Anyone could clearly see that it was only a matter of (very little) time before an iPod with safari/wifi was released.

But I guess most people are more peeved over the 200 dollar price drop. No, I don't feel "slapped in the face". I don't see how people can say "well I wouldn't be mad if they dropped the price after 6 months, but after just 2?!?! Let's file a class action lawsuit!!!"

Really? Why? Honestly, if when I was getting my iPhone the Apple store employee told me it'd be 200 less in September, I still would've bought the iPhone for 599 right then. That 200 dollars, to me, was just part of the experience of hanging out in line with everyone else, chatting up with fellow Apple fans and having those first couple months to be gawked at in public when talking on the thing! A day I'll never forget, ahhh good times! I'll miss it! *wipes tear*

Hattig
Sep 5, 2007, 07:12 PM
Just done watching it all, whilst cooking and eating dinner and all that.

I actually found it interesting just to watch how Jobs has everything in control and can give a decent presentation, keeping things hidden until the right time, and is excited by everything. He knows he has awesome products to work with, and it's easy for him - so we can't all translate this into our day jobs!

It's a good stream though, well worth watching. Answers a lot of questions.

newguineafan
Sep 5, 2007, 07:14 PM
you cant it doesnt come out until around September 28th, from what I saw on the estimated shipping date when I tried to order one.

Yeah, but the product was just announced today. You don't know if it's accurate or not.

Also, the demand for those things must be AMAZING. I think you would be better off getting it at an Apple Store (if there's one near.)

Doctor Q
Sep 5, 2007, 07:20 PM
Did anyone notice when he was talking about the TV shows, he said.."we have sold just shy of 100 million tv shows"...on the screen comes 95 million number and he says...95 thousand.I noticed that too. But I was glad he wasn't constantly clearing his throat as he has at some past events.

Steve Jobs=God
Sep 5, 2007, 07:23 PM
Was it me or did it seem like Steve had someone in the audience as his personal Woo-er, pretty much everything he said he got a woo off the same person!

macftw
Sep 5, 2007, 07:26 PM
iPhone was a gimmick for Apple to gain more exposure and cash in big bucks in a short period of time. Apple is a very clever company and this 200 dollar price cut after one month and a few days is not random. It was planned all along.

If the iPhone had been selling as well as they had hoped, there would have been no reason to lower the price. It's quite unusual for any premium product to have it's price slashed so soon after launch. There's no way this was planned.

I think Apple just blinked. Which might be a mistake, because I'm not sure it was the price that was the big issue. The iPhone is simply a very different kind of device whose value is a little tricky to communicate outside the Convinced Crowd (personally I love it and pitch it to everyone I meet). But they have stuck their necks out and have more or less promised Wall Street specific sales numbers, plus they've probably planned to make too many of them, so they're facing an inventory problem. But I guess we'll see: if sales pick up sharply, then it was the right call.

Another interesting thing is that they dropped the 4G model. Another screwup - they're likely to face a lot of disgruntled 4G customers who actually wanted an 8G model that they're likely to need to help.

Nothing fatal about these errors. On balance, iPhone is the right way to go. I wouldn't call it random, but I wouldn't call it flawless execution either.

Kidman13
Sep 5, 2007, 07:39 PM
I love the iPod touch however my biggest problem (and why I probably might have to settle for a iPod Nano) is that this thing is damn hard to control in your pocket. I mean I can still pause skip if a Nano is in my pocket, but for the Touch I would need to constantly remove it from my pocket. Unless Apple develops a nice remote (not the Radio one they have now), I guess I'm stuck with a Nano...:(

s10
Sep 5, 2007, 07:42 PM
I love the iPod touch however my biggest problem (and why I probably might have to settle for a iPod Nano) is that this thing is damn hard to control in your pocket. I mean I can still pause skip if a Nano is in my pocket, but for the Touch I would need to constantly remove it from my pocket. Unless Apple develops a nice remote (not the Radio one they have now), I guess I'm stuck with a Nano...:(

Is that a Nano in your pocket or are you happy to see me.....

shawnce
Sep 5, 2007, 07:46 PM
If the iPhone had been selling as well as they had hoped, there would have been no reason to lower the price. It's quite unusual for any premium product to have it's price slashed so soon after launch. There's no way this was planned. Well any number of good reasons could exist for the drop and likely do exist...

As I guess I believe the following factors are at play...

1) Apple priced the iPhone high to help control demand during the early release given expectations of demand and supply.

2) Apple wanted to price it high enough to give themselves a way to make the margins they want if cellular carriers in Europe, etc. didn't want to sign up to subsidizing the phone.

3) Apple wanted see what price the market would accept (better to lower prices then raise them).

4) Apple wanted to capitalize on the hype.

etc.

Now that the early release window has passed, Apple has real world sales numbers (likely below what they wanted at the $600 price point), Apple has contracts well under way in Europe, has the iPod touch to help amortize components costs and OS X R&D, competitors are working answers to the iPhone's features/functionality and most importantly Apple wants to hit the holiday season hard with a strong product lineup ... they decided to modify the iPhone pricing.

I think Apple is focused on giving the iPhone and iPod family the best chance to shine this holiday season with aggressive pricing. ...again I don't think it implies that the iPhone is failing in any way (maybe weaker then expected sales wise post release).

Karvel
Sep 5, 2007, 07:46 PM
Was it me or did it seem like Steve had someone in the audience as his personal Woo-er, pretty much everything he said he got a woo off the same person!
Haha yeah I noticed that! And I also thought he was going a bit crazy with the slide animations at the start :D

jacktiernan
Sep 5, 2007, 07:47 PM
OMG, apple unveils some fantastic new products, and it seems the majority of people can only find things to critisize.

We have completely unrealistic expectations for apple.

They are, imo, the most innovative company in their field, and produce the best, most usable products of any electronics i've ever used.

I understand some people's disappointment with the 16gb limit on the iPod touch - but this is why they have kept the classic with more storage.

For god's sake - stop being so negative peoples!!

I am extremely grateful for the release of the touch, as i live in australia, and it will still be some time before we get the iPhone here.

Thankyou apple, for another fantastic evolution of your products

Alloye
Sep 5, 2007, 07:51 PM
I would say it's just beginning.

Agreed. I love the new iMacs and the new iPods. I think Apple's designs are better than ever. Now I just have to decide between 160GB of classic goodness or the UI/WiFi features of the touch. :cool:

shawnce
Sep 5, 2007, 07:51 PM
I love the iPod touch however my biggest problem (and why I probably might have to settle for a iPod Nano) is that this thing is damn hard to control in your pocket. I mean I can still pause skip if a Nano is in my pocket, but for the Touch I would need to constantly remove it from my pocket. Unless Apple develops a nice remote (not the Radio one they have now), I guess I'm stuck with a Nano...:( If it has anything like the ear buds that come with the iPhone then it has a small inline remote that allows you to skip and/or pause.

Stampyhead
Sep 5, 2007, 07:54 PM
Hmm, they dropped the price of the refurb 8GB iPhone to $349. Wasn't it $499 before?

Doctor Q
Sep 5, 2007, 08:11 PM
Was it me or did it seem like Steve had someone in the audience as his personal Woo-er, pretty much everything he said he got a woo off the same person!I'll bet it was this guy. He was on camera straightening his clothes after the event ended, probably a result of all that jumping up and down and whooping and hollering.

mambodancer
Sep 5, 2007, 08:27 PM
I want a Contacts button on my iPhone like it shows on the new iPod!

Muzzway
Sep 5, 2007, 08:28 PM
I can't seem to watch the video, it just keeps saying "switching transports". Anyone know what's going on?

ventro
Sep 5, 2007, 08:29 PM
The iPhone was priced incorrectly. Apple even admitted this in their last conference call, when they said they were making unexpectedly high margins on the iPhone because they underestimated how cheap NAND flash would become when they priced the iPhone.

Also, what's the song played during the "incomplete" iPod touch commercial?

james6000
Sep 5, 2007, 08:35 PM
does anyone know if the iPod touch will have recessed earphone jacks like the iPhone?

EricNau
Sep 5, 2007, 08:38 PM
does anyone know if the iPod touch will have recessed earphone jacks like the iPhone?
Doesn't look like it.

bobpedro
Sep 5, 2007, 08:43 PM
Just spoke with the apple sales chat, the ipod touch, does INDEED have the same recessed headphone jack as the iphone, but the nano does not.

james6000
Sep 5, 2007, 08:47 PM
Just spoke with the apple sales chat, the ipod touch, does INDEED have the same recessed headphone jack as the iphone, but the nano does not.

That sucks so much. Now we are forced to use those awful standard headphones or must fork out extra money to buy a special adapter.

I guess another option would be to "drill" a wider hole to fit other jacks as I haver heard people do on their iPhones.

zeppo93008
Sep 5, 2007, 09:00 PM
I posted a message on this board, and I noticed that it got deleted today. Wondered why? I also noticed that some of my other posts on other places been deleted. So is the moderator practicing censorship here. There was nothing wrong with the message that I posted here. Hmmm.... :-(

geckoseiya
Sep 5, 2007, 09:21 PM
thanks for the info.

thiago824
Sep 5, 2007, 09:24 PM
I am somewhat upset about the price drop. Back in the day, if you owned an Apple product, you were considered well off. The reason why I paid $599.00 for an iPhone is because Apple has always kept the same prices for a long time (never in a million years thought that they would drop almost half the price in a 2 month period, I thought at least 1-2 years). The MacBook Pros and MacBooks have been the same price for quite a while now. Ever since the iPod started selling more, Apple keeps lowering their prices on pretty much everything.
I always compared Apple to Mercedes and Microsoft to Toyotas (example, don't gang up on me now lol). If you buy an Apple computer, it will not depreciate as if you were buying a Windows machine. If Apple does not keep their prices steady, it will become another Microsoft.

Just my opinion...

Glial
Sep 5, 2007, 09:52 PM
I am somewhat upset about the price drop. Back in the day, if you owned an Apple product, you were considered well off. The reason why I paid $599.00 for an iPhone is because Apple has always kept the same prices for a long time (never in a million years thought that they would drop almost half the price in a 2 month period, I thought at least 1-2 years). The MacBook Pros and MacBooks have been the same price for quite a while now. Ever since the iPod started selling more, Apple keeps lowering their prices on pretty much everything.
I always compared Apple to Mercedes and Microsoft to Toyotas (example, don't gang up on me now lol). If you buy an Apple computer, it will not depreciate as if you were buying a Windows machine. If Apple does not keep their prices steady, it will become another Microsoft.

Just my opinion...

How will lowering prices make Apple like Microsoft? Does Microsoft lower the price of Windows and Office often? Does Microsoft sell computers or phones? We know they have an music player that DOESN'T sell.

Your statement makes little sense...not even .02.

And Toyotas have higher resell than Mercedes...so that doesn't fly either.

When you speak of depreciation, please realize that computers and gadgets aren't investments, they are tools and toys. So if you paid $599 for an iPhone because you didn't expect the price to change?

Im totally lost with 99% of your post.

thiago824
Sep 5, 2007, 10:12 PM
How will lowering prices make Apple like Microsoft? Does Microsoft lower the price of Windows and Office often? Does Microsoft sell computers or phones? We know they have an music player that DOESN'T sell.

Your statement makes little sense...not even .02.

And Toyotas have higher resell than Mercedes...so that doesn't fly either.

When you speak of depreciation, please realize that computers and gadgets aren't investments, they are tools and toys. So if you paid $599 for an iPhone because you didn't expect the price to change?

Im totally lost with 99% of your post.

AGAIN, the Toyota and Mercedes "example" was in terms of the quality of a product, not resale value.
A Mercedes is a higher end car (luxury) that's what I meant.

When I said Microsoft I meant resale value of their products. Most computers equiped with Windows, automatically lose its value once it is out of the store. Apple products however do not because Apple has a tendency of keeping their prices steady and for providing a higher quality products.

Like I mentioned before, those were examples not to be followed literally...

Was it that hard to understand? If it was, my bad.

1020
Sep 5, 2007, 10:19 PM
I am somewhat upset about the price drop. Back in the day, if you owned an Apple product, you were considered well off.
<snip>

Let me guess, you think the common man shouldn't be able to afford an iPhone. Well, if you want to feel special because you own things others can't afford, there are many, many other companies out there that will gladly take your money. Here (http://www.rolex.com), here (http://www.prada.com) and here (http://www.hummer.com).

rSm00th
Sep 5, 2007, 10:39 PM
The song during the "incomplete" iPod Touch ad?

Sounds like a great cut to me...

While I'm at it, where is the iTunes update promised for "tonight?" :confused:

twoodcc
Sep 5, 2007, 11:14 PM
i'll try to watch it tomorrow.....hopefully this time it will work for me

gusapple
Sep 6, 2007, 12:24 AM
The song during the "incomplete" iPod Touch ad?

Sounds like a great cut to me...

While I'm at it, where is the iTunes update promised for "tonight?" :confused:

I'm asking the same question.

ct325
Sep 6, 2007, 01:52 AM
I'm asking the same question.

Song: "La La La"
Band: "The bird and the bee"

You can check it out on iTunes. BTW, where's my freaking 160GB superPod Touch?

arsonata
Sep 6, 2007, 02:39 AM
Wouldn't it have made more sense to not release an iPod Classic and just have an iPod Touch with a hard drive? If I had a 160GB iPod I'd want to stock it full of movies, but I'd want to watch them on the iPod touch's screen. It's a shame customers have to choose between great functionality and storage space.

Shagrat
Sep 6, 2007, 02:53 AM
OMG, apple unveils some fantastic new products, and it seems the majority of people can only find things to critisize.

We have completely unrealistic expectations for apple.

They are, imo, the most innovative company in their field, and produce the best, most usable products of any electronics i've ever used.

I understand some people's disappointment with the 16gb limit on the iPod touch - but this is why they have kept the classic with more storage.

For god's sake - stop being so negative peoples!!

I am extremely grateful for the release of the touch, as i live in australia, and it will still be some time before we get the iPhone here.

Thankyou apple, for another fantastic evolution of your products

Indeed! They could always go and get one of those wonderful Zune devices that i keep on hearing so much about.....

Oh, I didn't!

Shagrat
Sep 6, 2007, 02:54 AM
I'm asking the same question.

Just downloaded it about 20 mins ago, even though I still only have my 4gig Red Nano (Gen 2)!

Goldorak
Sep 6, 2007, 04:15 AM
Wouldn't it have made more sense to not release an iPod Classic and just have an iPod Touch with a hard drive? If I had a 160GB iPod I'd want to stock it full of movies, but I'd want to watch them on the iPod touch's screen. It's a shame customers have to choose between great functionality and storage space.

I so agree with you, I was also hoping to see the iPod Touch with a hard drive. 16GB is a very poor performance, I would hardly stuff 1/10 of my record collection (yeah, I'm old skool, I like CDs and I just upload them into iTunes), my photos and videos. I'm not going to buy it now.

I guess we'll have to wait another year before Apple decide to merge the 160GB Classic with the sexy looking Touch... but before that happens they might first come up with an upgrade of the iPod Touch with maybe 32GB Flash memory. Who knows...

...and for those who bitch about the price drop of the iPhone, they just got to understand this is part of the game. I guess for us european it's a good news...

bjorna
Sep 6, 2007, 04:32 AM
Does anyone know if it's possible to download this, instead of streaming it? I don't have internet at home at the moment (working on it :) ) and I have to do my internet things at the university, so I would love to download it and watch it at home. Is there a way?

giganten
Sep 6, 2007, 04:33 AM
The new nano is cool. Will a 4gb be enough for some music and movies/podcast?

whiteboytrash
Sep 6, 2007, 05:04 AM
What I don't understand with a good majority of the comments on this forum is they are trying to align the iPod touch to the tradition iPod collection..... its a new product its not the iPod in its tradition functionality or how we know it.... we are in a production transition phase to a touch interface..... if Apple abandoned the click-wheel for touch we would all cry out... if Apple were Microsoft they would release touch with 2GB of flash and 40GB hard drive which would compromise performance and freeze up more times than we'd like..... the iPod touch is not an iPod... its an internet device for streaming content... youTube, web, radio etc. this is the future... storing files on local hard-drives is not the way we are heading... ask any 16 year old... where are their photos ? on their iPod ? NO there on Facebook iBucket, Flkr etc. - how do they communicate ? via hotmail, gmail etc. ? no through social networking websites and the like...... the iPod touch is so far ahead of its time its not funny but its not an iPod in the traditional sense of the word – storing music files etc. – it’s a lifestyle device. If you are a DJ and need to bring your 100GB of music with you and video and steaming is not a big thing then the classic is for you..... the touch is for the new generation of people not for iPod users of today....... I wonder if PSP users complain that they can't download all 150 games to their PSP unit and take it with them ? :p

erving
Sep 6, 2007, 05:29 AM
The iPod touch doesn't even have a camera. Too little memory, too expensive. At least the camera would do.

Completely agree. Had my credit card in hand ready to buy the iPod touch but soon as I saw that it only had max 16 gigs of memory it went right back in my wallet. I can understand 16 gigs for portability but for the flagship model who now days has less then 16 gigs of media. Realy. Guess the 14 bucks i spent on my 3G bat upgrade a month ago was a good purchase. Also, anybody notice apple still hasn't added bluetooth...Whats up with that.

Kidman13
Sep 6, 2007, 06:21 AM
If it has anything like the ear buds that come with the iPhone then it has a small inline remote that allows you to skip and/or pause.

It looks to me that the iPod Touch uses normal Earphones (from the pictures I've seen). Kinda unfortunate...

Evangelion
Sep 6, 2007, 06:47 AM
Completely agree. Had my credit card in hand ready to buy the iPod touch but soon as I saw that it only had max 16 gigs of memory it went right back in my wallet. I can understand 16 gigs for portability but for the flagship model who now days has less then 16 gigs of media. Realy. Guess the 14 bucks i spent on my 3G bat upgrade a month ago was a good purchase. Also, anybody notice apple still hasn't added bluetooth...Whats up with that.

They couldn't fit more storage to the device, since flash-chips are limited to 8GB (iirc) at the moment, and they have very limited space for those chips in the device. And HD was never really an option, it would totally kill the battery-life. And why would I want to have a camera in my mp3-player?

You guys need to be realistic here.

ahasver
Sep 6, 2007, 09:52 AM
What I want to know is it possible to write emails using webmail. And can you add contacts. If that is the case sign me up it is the best things since they released the original ipod.

dabless
Sep 6, 2007, 10:13 AM
I think the biggest problem with the Touch is that people are expecting it to be the iPhone minus the phone capabilities. ITS NOT!!! It's an iPod and that's its foremost function. WHAT Mp3 player on the market has a camera? None. What Mp3 player on the market has a touch screen with internet capabilities, etc? The iPod Touch! It's SOO far ahead of the game that it's not even funny! It's a great iPod. They crammed as much memory as possible into that guy too, so for now that's all that it gets without being 2 inches thick, having no battery life, and costing 1000 bucks. Can you imagine an iPod Touch with 160GB HD at this point? When the Classic costs 349, you can easily imagine 600-800 for an iPod with touch technology AND a 160GB drive. It's not economical just yet...let the flash market catch up a bit.

Now...to my point about the Classic. I saw somewhere that Steve said in a smaller meeting later that they kept the Classic because there is a percentage of people who would rather have a large capacity, standard iPod in their pocket. I agree, GO STEVE! I am a happy owner of the iPhone, and I think the iPhone has more than enough storage at 8GB for daily use. But I'm probably going to go buy a Classic (to replace my old 5G iPod) just because sometimes on trips and such, I'd like to have a ton of storage and listen to all my songs. So, I have no reason to buy an iPod Touch, although it's awesome and many people will buy them and love them. These are just a FEW of the reasons Apple kept the Classic and added the Touch. I think we should trust that Apple has sat down and done their homework, and give them a little credit. There are 4 iPod's now in many different colors, so there is something for every person, with every budget. Buy the one that works for you, and you'll be happy, but don't cry about the other models that you don't like as much, or the features you wanted your model to have. Nothing is going to satisfy EVERY person, ALL the time.

ahasver
Sep 6, 2007, 10:16 AM
Completely agree. Had my credit card in hand ready to buy the iPod touch but soon as I saw that it only had max 16 gigs of memory it went right back in my wallet. I can understand 16 gigs for portability but for the flagship model who now days has less then 16 gigs of media. Realy. Guess the 14 bucks i spent on my 3G bat upgrade a month ago was a good purchase. Also, anybody notice apple still hasn't added bluetooth...Whats up with that.

According to Gismodo it might even be there. They found a photo the German apple webside which show the bluetooth symbol. Now wouldn't that be nice. I must say I am very tempted...

Derekuda
Sep 6, 2007, 10:23 AM
Has Apple lost it?

None of these designs appeal to me aesthetically. Same goes for the recent hideous iMac redesign. I won't be investing.

The golden age of Apple design is most definitely over.

Can you please explain more please....? Im confused. With the exception of the new and ugly "imo" ipod nano, i think everything apple has made is flawless looking. Amazing engienereing.

PERSONALLY.....I think the ipod touch will evolve into an ipod PDA personally, with all the features of the iphone, (except for the phone part of course)...but just wait, more PDA type apps will come out for the touch.

Hunabku
Sep 6, 2007, 11:09 AM
...if part of the decision, for apple to not include wifi and touch screen with a hard drive, was battery life and size issues.

Haven't heard anyone mention that, so I thought i'd bring that in to the mix.

Well it seems like apple is giving themselves plenty of room to grow - by hopefully consolidating ipod features into a more killer device in the future. Especially as technology gets smaller and more power efficient.

Its good that apple put the antenna on the top - stupid that it is on the bottom with the iphone as my phone (cellular) reception noticeably drops when i hold it like normal phone and cover the antenna with my hand.:(:(

michaelrjohnson
Sep 6, 2007, 11:15 AM
Has Apple lost it?

None of these designs appeal to me aesthetically. Same goes for the recent hideous iMac redesign. I won't be investing.

The golden age of Apple design is most definitely over.

Obviously, your opinions (and everyone else's) are completely subjective, and there will be many people that disagree with you.

I happen to be one of them.

However, Apple didn't just stop investing in world-class product design overnight. They put countless hours into developing the new designs. While this is the point you're arguing, history has shown that Apple's "wild and crazy" designs will become accepted, and emulated in 6 months time.

I doubt that these products will change that track record.

SSpiro
Sep 6, 2007, 12:23 PM
My opinion.. just for ranting purposes. Ignore me. Probably already touched on.

The new ipod touch is a joke. Slick features, but only 16GB for 399??? Forget it. Cool features and all, but my 80GB is too small. How am I supposed to upgrade with only 16GB?

And if they were smart, theyd release an iphone WITHOUT the ipod feature for $199 or $299 and watch how many theyd sell. This is the reason I won't buy an iphone - I don't need a phone with an 8GB flash drive. I'll never use it. It's a waste to me.

Instead, they release an iphone without the phone feature with only 16GB for 399.. Im disappointed. I feel Apple missed the boat on this one.

OK. Ill stop ranting now.

pusa
Sep 7, 2007, 02:34 AM
Does anyone know if it's possible to download this, instead of streaming it? I don't have internet at home at the moment (working on it :) ) and I have to do my internet things at the university, so I would love to download it and watch it at home. Is there a way?


http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/s83522y/iphone/63827621b_1_ip.mp4

Don't right click and save as---will not work. Make sure to open it in another window in the browser and just let it load and when it's done, just save it anywhere from the browser.

BoyBach
Sep 7, 2007, 08:12 AM
I hope that/wonder if Apple will release the live KT Tunstall performance through the iTunes Store. I wasn't expecting to, but I enjoyed it.

Doctor Q
Sep 7, 2007, 10:25 AM
I hope that/wonder if Apple will release the live KT Tunstall performance through the iTunes Store. I wasn't expecting to, but I enjoyed it.If you order her second album, "Drastic Fantastic," be aware that they are selling two versions: a regular version (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPreorder?id=259375637&s=143441) for $9.99 and a Deluxe (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPreorder?id=259841011&s=143441) version with videos for $14.99. Only the Deluxe version is featured on the iTunes Store main "Music" page, so some people will fail to notice the link to the regular album version hiding under the Album Notes.

compuguy1088
Sep 7, 2007, 01:33 PM
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/s83522y/iphone/63827621b_1_ip.mp4

Don't right click and save as---will not work. Make sure to open it in another window in the browser and just let it load and when it's done, just save it anywhere from the browser.

Thanks for the link!

ncsmith4
Sep 7, 2007, 11:45 PM
Hey im not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but... Can I view the event on my iphone? It doesnt seem to work and Im away from internet out on a family trip. This is aggravating. :-/

compuguy1088
Sep 8, 2007, 09:12 PM
If you do not want to use quicktime, I was able to put the keynote onto google video for easy viewing:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1634637042697139136&hl=en

ncsmith4
Sep 8, 2007, 09:36 PM
Hmm... still unviewable via iphone. :-/