Hacked OSX on Intel??

[iGav]

One of the websites I visit, has a user that says they're running a hacked copy of OSX on a PC?? :eek:

Is this or can this be true??

Their post is below...

I just installed hacked version of OSX on my PC. Amazing! Kazaa & Linux rule. I love Mac interface, before this I used WindowsBlinds (sucks big time). The hacked version of OSX for PC is a bit slow, but still acceptable, I guess "Renegade group" will repackage the installation soon. I'm never going back to Windows again.

If it's true, then damn, do I feel violated... :eek:

[idea_hamster]

That's pretty big news, indeed, if it's true. Can we get a link or is it on the QT?

I'm guessing from the person's praise of Kazaa that s/he isn't too interested in the fact that it's probably a violation of the OS X licensing agreement to do any de- or re-compile significant enough to run OS X on an x86 platform. (Listen to me! Talking like this person's using a licensed copy of OS X! Sheesh.:rolleyes: )

[icetraxxg5]

It would be just about impossible to take MacOS X that has been compiled for PPC to get it to work on X86 no matter what you would do to it. If by hacked he means he stole it or something then it may be true. Apple can't keep marklar underraps forever...

[FattyMembrane]

whoever said that is talking out of his ass. there is no way to "hack" osx to work on intel, you would have to have all of the source code, modify it, and recompile it. you'd see it all over the news if somebody had osx working on intel (other than apple). another giveaway is the fact that there is no official kazaa program for osx and osx is not linux. supposedly apple keeps x86 builds of osx for testing, but you'd have a better chance of stealing the space shuttle than getting one out of cupertino.

[artificiallife]

Originally posted by FattyMembrane
the fact that there is no official kazaa program for osx and osx is not linux.

I think he was referring to the fact he downloaded it from kazaa, and may have mistaken linux for unix. Anyway, yea this is fake.

[rhpenguin]

Yeah. Good call on the Kazaa thing. If he would have said Limewire or Poisoned it would be a lot more believeable.

Even if you could get OSX on an intel machine, it wouldnt be the same experience. Would be just like being back in the beige machine days... ewwww! what an UGLY thought.

[PixelFactory]

Sound like it is just a Linux GUI wrapper that imatates OS X.

[Powerbook G5]

Just another lie...just like when they say Apple is owned by Microsoft or that you cannot upgrade PowerMacs or that the internet "doesn't work" on Macs, etc. Next, we'll hear about how they've hacked the Pentium 4 and made it into a 64-bit processor that is 2 times faster than a dual G5!

[OutThere]

This is obviously not true...but it is only a matter of time until marklar gets leaked...

[rhpenguin]

Originally posted by OutThere761
This is obviously not true...but it is only a matter of time until marklar gets leaked...

Assuming marklar really does exist...

[Sun Baked]

Either he is admitting to stealing a copy of the source code, or is a liar.

A Mac binary does not run too well on a x86, actually about as well as using a Windows install disk on a PowerMac G5.

Don't think Mac on x86 Linux would work too well, unless someone write a x86-->PPC JIT emulator for PC and hacks the PC bootROM.

[tjwett]

impossible and a lie. next!

[xpormac]

Not impossible! :D

[Powerbook G5]

It's not likely...it would require access to the original code, lots of compiling, rewriting, and not to mention seriously stomping on the legal rights of Apple.

[vollspacken]

yeah righ, your mom..!

his statement is the biggest pile of dog poo ever...

vSpacken

[MacsRgr8]

Apple have seeded free versions of Darwin for x86. So it depends on what you mean about "Mac OS X on x86"....
Check this (http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/6.0/release.html) out.
In my opinion Mac OS X is more than Darwin. Mac OS X = Darwin + Aqua.

I don't believe Aqua has ever been ported to Darwin on x86....

[Catfish_Man]

Originally posted by MacsRgr8
Apple have seeded free versions of Darwin for x86. So it depends on what you mean about "Mac OS X on x86"....
Check this (http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/6.0/release.html) out.
In my opinion Mac OS X is more than Darwin. Mac OS X = Darwin + Aqua.

I don't believe Aqua has ever been ported to Darwin on x86....

Heh. Darwin + Aqua + Quartz + LaunchServices + Finder + PasteBoardServer + SystemUIServer + Dock + etc...

[MrMacMan]

Yeah this is BS.

A story with no link.


Says they got KaZaA witch doesn't run on Linux or mac. (Well FastTrack does but it aint 'KaZaA')

So total no go.

[LimeLite]

Ok, guys, first off:

This is possible. Likely? No. But it is *possible*.

Second:

The fact that he mentioned KaZaa doesn't mean anything. His mention of KaZaa isn't in reference to him *using* KaZaa on OS X on his PC. His praise for KaZaa is that he *found* the PC version of OS X on KaZaa.

[GeeYouEye]

I think it's more likely he found a PPC emulator for linux (unlikely I know), and then got a copy of OS X off Kazaa and used... what was it called... "Unsupported X" or something? It let you run X on an early G3 PowerBooks and 604-based machines.

Or, even more likely, he's bull****ting.

[Sol]

Originally posted by GeeYouEye
I think it's more likely he found a PPC emulator for linux (unlikely I know), and then got a copy of OS X off Kazaa and used... what was it called... "Unsupported X" or something? It let you run X on an early G3 PowerBooks and 604-based machines.

Exactly my thoughts. He mentioned that it was slow and this could be so because his OS X was emulated.

Anyway, if this supposed hacked verion was available in file-sharing circles someone else would have posted pictures allready.

[OutThere]

Nevermind my stupid posts...:(

[OutThere]

[XnavxeMiyyep]

Just out of curiosity, what does Darwin look like on x86?

[AdamR01]

Well actually a PPC emulator is possible. I read on www.emulation64.com that there is a GameCube emulator in development that actually runs some home brewed stuff. The GameCube is powered by a PowerPC processor I beleive.

[FattyMembrane]

Originally posted by XnavxeMiyyep
Just out of curiosity, what does Darwin look like on x86?
darwin is just the freeBSD based part of osx. darwin is what you see when you open up a terminal window. darwin on a pc looks just like any other linux/bsd distribution, it does not come with any kind of gui or frameworks.

[andyduncan]

Originally posted by PixelFactory
Sound like it is just a Linux GUI wrapper that imatates OS X.

Ditto. The key phrase is:

...before this I used WindowsBlinds...

This is not a case of someone being hyper intelligent and de/recompiling OSX to run on an x86 machine. In fact, this is the opposite of that, it's someone too stupid to know/articulate the difference between OSX and a window manager theme (http://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/) that looks like OSX.

[MacsRgr8]

Originally posted by XnavxeMiyyep
Just out of curiosity, what does Darwin look like on x86?

The same as logging on to Mac OS X on PPC as user: ">console" (no password)
You get OS X w/o Aqua.

[crenz]

Originally posted by XnavxeMiyyep
Just out of curiosity, what does Darwin look like on x86?

Quite the same as on Mac OS X, I guess. About as sexy as command-line only Linux. :)

If you want to get an impression of it, next time you boot up, try Superuser mode (forgot the key combination -- Cmd-S?).

[whooleytoo]

Just another possibility, it could be something like OpenStep (or GNUStep), modified to emulate the OSX look 'n' feel. That shouldn't be too difficult to do.

Mike.

[Schiffi]

yeah, an OSX skin for Xp is more plausible

[FredAkbar]

Originally posted by crenz
If you want to get an impression of it, next time you boot up, try Superuser mode (forgot the key combination -- Cmd-S?).
It's called single user mode, and yep it's Cmd-S.

[Powerbook G5]

From my understanding, Darwin is BSD 5.0 + Mach microkernal + the various frameworks and APIs + a sprinkling of Aqua/QE/QT, etc. It's a nice Unix, but it definitely wouldn't get the typical Windows user anywhere besides looking at a black screen with a lot of white text with a nifty "Welcome to Darwin!" greeting. :) I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult for the person to do what was already stated, as far as using a simple Aqua look theme for Linux or XP to get it looking kind of like OS X.

[jlambert]

check out the latest version of Gnome and I bet thats what hes got. http://vhost.dulug.duke.edu/~louie/screenshots/2.2/10.jpg

[iGav]

I totally forgot I'd posted this.... :rolleyes: apologies guys...

Okay then, I saw a post on the News Today website from what I presume is just some joe like you find here on MR...

http://www.newstoday.com/

If you go to the 'The Public Voice' section and click back a few of pages (they move quickly over there!heh!) using the 'previous' button at the bottom of 'The Public Voice' section, you come to a thread titled 'Windows XP' and that's where I came across the post that I added at the start of this thread...

Now some people replying to the News Today thread have suggested this guy means some kind of naff OSX skin, yet his post seems quite adament that he's running OSX on his PC, as does another reply suggesting indeed some people have got OSX running on a PC.

Personally I don't believe it, but then I don't understand the amount of work that would be required to get OSX running, even roughly on a PC...

Well you should all visit News Today, find the thread and post and find out what tis' going on.

I just thought this would be interesting to you all, as I'd heard about Apple and Marklar, but didn't think copies had leaked just yet...

G