View Full Version : What old slow computers are you forced to use?
macstudent
Apr 7, 2002, 08:34 PM
What is the oldest computer that you must use at work? It does not have to be your day to day machine. It could be a scanning station or a server.
At my work(in a poor mini advertising department on campus) I am forced to use a Pentium 150 with 64 mb of RAM. Try doing webdesign on that!
buffsldr
Apr 7, 2002, 08:46 PM
i just sold my 233 mhz, 48 mb (ram was maxed out) compaq to my 8 year old nephew for 5 bucks. It was my scanning machine. Old comps have their place. Its a shame to put a nice comp out to pasture.
macstudent
Apr 7, 2002, 08:55 PM
I just sold two computers. One was a gateway 200 pentium pro, and the other one was something old and crappy, probably a 133 or worse. I sold them to a friend who is learning was to play around with linux. I got $100 for both. I didn't need them, so I thnk it was a fair deal, and he is happy with them.
macopia
Apr 7, 2002, 09:30 PM
I gave my old Compaq 233 Mhz to my parents. As a going away present, I put Windows 2000 Pro on it. You can go cook a Thanksgiving dinner while its booting up.
buffsldr
Apr 7, 2002, 09:32 PM
Now thats just mean. Win2k on the 233 compaq. was that the same one i had (max ram =48 mb)? lol
jefhatfield
Apr 7, 2002, 09:36 PM
since i have a 1999 era compaq laptop not optimized for windows nt 4 server, i have to resort to a pentium 150 desktop from 1996 which works beautifully with nt 4
i have 32 MB of RAM on this machine and i think it maxes out at 64 MB (which was a heck of a lot of RAM then)
as long as i have to refer to nt 4, i will use this machine since it is still the most common server software around where i live and work
windows 2000 server never took off that well and windows xp is too new and who knows if microsoft will go with that format for their future server software
a client of mine still uses his 486 for email, the internet, and defense department work in programming but at work he has a 450 p3
Beej
Apr 7, 2002, 10:58 PM
At Uni I am forced to work on crappy 1.6 GHz P4s. It sucks big time.
teabgs
Apr 7, 2002, 11:37 PM
IM on it now. Though its a good machine (for what it is) I need a new one. I'm on a PPC 6500 275 Mhz with 96MD RAM and a 4 GB HD. Upgrading this summer...had to wait till now because of money
MacAztec
Apr 8, 2002, 12:07 AM
I dont think any of my macs are slow, but I have a few old ones! Right now, I mainly use a G4 500, G4 400, PowerBook G3 500 Pismo, and thats about it.
In my collection storage, I have quite a few oldies but extremely goodies. All in great cond.
Hemingray
Apr 8, 2002, 12:35 AM
At work, (I'm a T.A. at college in the morning), I have to use a Power Macintosh 7100/66. I upgraded it to OS 9.1 but had to DOWNGRADE it back to 8.6 because it slowed to a crawl! Loading web pages is absolutely miserable.
I keep bugging my sysadmin boss to upgrade us... after a year and a half he finally upgraded my teacher's Quadra 660AV (which I added to my Mac collection of course :D ).
mac15
Apr 8, 2002, 03:47 AM
my mates computer is a 133mhz pentium and with 16mb ram and it sucks so hard
my uncles is a 90mhz pentium with 8mb ram
spuncan
Apr 8, 2002, 06:33 AM
Im still in school. But there we have an assortment of 250mhz compaqs, 1ghz Dells, and 900mhz Dell laptops they are all very slow and crash almost constantly. At home I still use this 233 G3 "Desktop" Mac which for its age and whats been done to it, it runs smoothly in 9.2 and once we get the ram to max it out X should run decently.
Spock
Apr 8, 2002, 09:33 AM
I work at home and for writing and such I use my trusty Mac Plus with 1 mb of ram and a 20mb Gcc HrdDrive and MacOS 6 it boots in about 2.1 seconds. Also when I am on the go I bring my MessagePad 120.
I also use a iBook 366 with 128mb of ram It runs OS X fast and smooth.
mcrain
Apr 8, 2002, 09:38 AM
FYI - In my division, I have one of the better computers. It is a 166 pentium Compaq Deskpro. There are mostly 150 mhz machines here, but are scheduled for replacement (dells - yuck - I wish apple would try to get big business and government accounts like ours). Downstairs, they have some 486's that they have to keep because they are the only machines that run certain software.
eyelikeart
Apr 8, 2002, 10:30 AM
G3 Desktop...266...
we have it setup as a RIP for our Heidelberg Quicksetter....works quite well actually...
D0ct0rteeth
Apr 8, 2002, 10:32 AM
My girlfriend has an old Digital Equipment Corp notebook... It may way 15 pounds... :D
She uses it in grad school for basic word and powerpoint stuff...
I'd buy her a iBook but it is too much fun making fun of her :)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2014252335
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macstudent
Apr 8, 2002, 11:20 AM
The new imac might be lighter than that!
jefhatfield
Apr 8, 2002, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by D0ct0rteeth
My girlfriend has an old Digital Equipment Corp notebook... It may way 15 pounds... :D
She uses it in grad school for basic word and powerpoint stuff...
I'd buy her a iBook but it is too much fun making fun of her :)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2014252335
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unlike most high school and college students who may have some help from mom and dad, many grad students are on their own and there are tons of "starving graduate" students out there
first, there is the higher tuition per unit
the chance for working is diminished due to a much harder school work load
and being out of the real working world, in some cases, six to eight years, takes its toll...one can't live on oxygen alone
so a working laptop is a luxury to many grad students and i have seen typewritten stuff at the local university in santa cruz (but there may be some other issues there since there is definitely a pro environmentalist, anti technology bent there)
ask mischief, he will tell you all about it
but at least uc santa cruz was the only place where i can do my bohemian starving musician act with a banged up guitar...i sucked, really, and they though i was bob dylan:D
Kid Red
Apr 8, 2002, 11:44 AM
I'm forced to use this slow ass dual gig until the G5s come out:(
Kid Red
Apr 8, 2002, 12:15 PM
hehe
mischief
Apr 8, 2002, 12:40 PM
I live in a 350 Sq. Ft. Basement Appartment that I and my wife rent for 750 a month. I use an iMac rev-D 333 at home that my mother bought me about a month before the DV's came out. At work there are G4 towers that I configured myself.
UCSC is populated by trustfund babies.
These eco-freak-neo-raver-wanna-hippies have seriously screwed the local economy and political scene. White folks with BAD dredds. Ick.
Picture this: All the most annoying people you knew in HS all going to the same University on Daddy's money-for-love plan.
They get here and do WAY too many drugs (Binge sessions on at LEAST 3 substances) then convince themselves that whatever whacked out theories they come up with while doing Ecological Studies homework while High are the truth. They go down to Pacific and buy themselves canvas Vegan-approved clothes and stop bathing, thinking or contributing.
One of these stinky little debutantes came in with a FW Powerbook just before the TiBook came out and wanted warranty service for her scratched up monitor. Upon examination of the bag she was carrying it in I discovered a small aquarium's worth of sand, gravel, dirt, twigs, etc. She was using it most often while sitting on the ground at various Freak Circles throughout the County then wanted Apple to pay for her irresponsability.
D0ct0rteeth
Apr 8, 2002, 12:41 PM
jefhatfield;
Sorry bro if I offended you... I meant it as a joke... and have nothing but respect for people in grad school (myself included).
Financially speaking she is over 80k in debt due to just tuition at Columbia and her rent is over 1000/month to live in NYC...
I know times are tough on college students and any cpu is a bonus...
I just can't resist ranking on a Compaq product; due to the fact that I am a former Compaq employee...
hugs and kisses all around and "Mad Propts" to anybody in college... always keep learning!!!!
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jefhatfield
Apr 8, 2002, 12:55 PM
no offense at all
i have been there...
in '95 i entered grad school and took a class every eight months or so until 1999 and then one day the school completely cut out the program...not enough students...so i was halfway done and left out in the cold...i am still paying the school off and want to be debt free before i do more grad work...this time i will choose something safe like computer engineering
a friend of mine who started his data processing major in 1972 at mit was going for his phd and right before he finished, they cut his concentration out so instead of a phd, he got a masters
so off to stanford he went to finish the job and spent many years there working toward his phd in computer science (what they called it by then) and he finally finished in 1984...that is twenty six semesters of ivy leaugue level private university education...yikes
he is almost 50 now and he has paid it all off and due to the high cost of grad school, he admitted to me that he was never able to afford a child...i think that hurt him since he makes $120,000 a year now but he feels too old to get started at his age because by the time his child graduated from high school, he would be as old as george burns:D
charlie chaplin had a kid at 72...he he
jefhatfield
Apr 8, 2002, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by mischief
I live in a 350 Sq. Ft. Basement Appartment that I and my wife rent for 750 a month. I use an iMac rev-D 333 at home that my mother bought me about a month before the DV's came out. At work there are G4 towers that I configured myself.
UCSC is populated by trustfund babies.
These eco-freak-neo-raver-wanna-hippies have seriously screwed the local economy and political scene. White folks with BAD dredds. Ick.
Picture this: All the most annoying people you knew in HS all going to the same University on Daddy's money-for-love plan.
They get here and do WAY too many drugs (Binge sessions on at LEAST 3 substances) then convince themselves that whatever whacked out theories they come up with while doing Ecological Studies homework while High are the truth. They go down to Pacific and buy themselves canvas Vegan-approved clothes and stop bathing, thinking or contributing.
One of these stinky little debutantes came in with a FW Powerbook just before the TiBook came out and wanted warranty service for her scratched up monitor. Upon examination of the bag she was carrying it in I discovered a small aquarium's worth of sand, gravel, dirt, twigs, etc. She was using it most often while sitting on the ground at various Freak Circles throughout the County then wanted Apple to pay for her irresponsability.
what is this phenomenon of rich kids dressing in rags?...of all the time i spent at ucsc, i never saw a cell phone or computer...what do the students do? do they use stone tablets because they are ecologically sound?
i am a liberal and i am a democrat, but the ultra left wing i see at ucsc is so left it is right wing nazi reactionary...if you don't blend into the correct form of liberalism, they call you a conservative...go figure:p
that said, ucsc is one of the top rated schools in northern california and many in the know say it is better than that other ultra left wing uc in a city called berkeley (or berzerkely as some of the students call it)...if it's hot you can go to class nude...it is in the berkeley bylaws...i have looked but have not seen naked people, but plenty of mohawks and tie dyed shirts...and that was at boalt, their high end law school...i wonder what their gender studies program looks like...he he
i shouldn't criticize...the grateful dead played on the nude lawn behind the cafeteria at sonoma state where i drank (i mean studied)
mcrain
Apr 8, 2002, 04:28 PM
Off topic -->
I went to Michigan and majored in engineering, followed by law school at Illinois. I consider myself pretty liberal, but if some wacky west coast hippy tried to make it here in the midwest, they'd end up limping home with corn sticking out of their nude hippy butts.
We don't have the weather or scenery of the west coast, but I guess it's worth it to avoid the nappy rich hippies.
mcrain
Apr 8, 2002, 04:31 PM
By the way, no offense to real hippies, it's these 18 year old suburban trust fund wanna-bes. For goodness sakes, embrace who you are, and be liberal in mind. Conforming to some hippie dress code makes you no better than the conservative and his brooks brothers suit. I'm far more progressive in my office because I deviate from the white shirt routine that everyone else does. I don't need dreads to be a wacko.
ejb190
Apr 8, 2002, 04:44 PM
At work I am suffering with a Compaq P3-600 with 360 MB. And XP will still drop to a craw! I think it has something to do with the network, though.
At home I have a Compaq Contura Aero (486SX-25, 8 MB, 170MB HD) that got me through my undergrad and started my MS. I still use it for my journals and other writing (and to play Civ once in a while!).
In grad school I bought a PowerBook 266 w/128MB. By not upgrading on every whim, I had saved enough money to do a serious purchase when the time came. No kickbacks from the parents here. I got through college debt free with some good sound planning (thanks Mom!), a few scholarships, and a lot of hard work.
In the next few months I will probably get an iMac, but I am waiting for the next revision.
jefhatfield
Apr 8, 2002, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by mcrain
Off topic -->
I went to Michigan and majored in engineering, followed by law school at Illinois. I consider myself pretty liberal, but if some wacky west coast hippy tried to make it here in the midwest, they'd end up limping home with corn sticking out of their nude hippy butts.
We don't have the weather or scenery of the west coast, but I guess it's worth it to avoid the nappy rich hippies.
want the truth?
many of these hippies come from out of state...maybe even michigan
and the corn thing in the nude butt is probably some sort of fad some would enjoy in santa cruz:D
Macmaniac
Apr 8, 2002, 05:09 PM
My school has some pretty bad old Wintel boxes, they have second hand keyboards(They stick) They have random moniters, and parts of them are missing. As for the Mac lab it is filled with blue iMacs:) I hope they update them soon. Oh and one good note, their is a new elemetary school being built in our town, and all of the computers are going to be NEW IMACS! I envy them soooo much! I had Apple 2 GS in my day(Oregen Trail was the best) Hopefully this should get some new converts.
buffsldr
Apr 8, 2002, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by jefhatfield
unlike most high school and college students who may have some help from mom and dad, many grad students are on their own and there are tons of "starving graduate" students out there
first, there is the higher tuition per unit
Wait a second. Maybe I was spoiled as an engineer, but most engineering grad students in engineering get tuition wavers and about 12-20k a year on top of that. Match that with student loans, and you live better than you did in undergrad.
buffsldr
Apr 8, 2002, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by mcrain
Off topic -->
I went to Michigan and majored in engineering, followed by law school at Illinois. I consider myself pretty liberal, but if some wacky west coast hippy tried to make it here in the midwest, they'd end up limping home with corn sticking out of their nude hippy butts.
We don't have the weather or scenery of the west coast, but I guess it's worth it to avoid the nappy rich hippies.
Just like Mathew Sheppard?
mischief
Apr 8, 2002, 06:19 PM
Matt Shepard was just Gay. No Prob.
These folks are.........well.........exactly what I dislike most about trustfund babies. These idiots are only alive cuz they're so eco-brainwashed extremist that if they had any real conviction they'd ****ing kill themselves.
These fools believe that the white male (most of them ARE white males) homo sapien is some abortion of nature that some evil extraterrestrial created as a sick joke just to screw with Gaia.
The females of this particular sect eventually screw their way through the whole student body until they decide that being a Lesbian would be the ultimate piss-off for Daddy.
Neo-Hippy-Gutterpunks play both sides of the fence as if it's not hypocritical. They will profess....in the same breath mind you....that Abortion is Wrong and that "Wymyn" should be able to do what they want with their bodies.
They've melded what their prof's want to hear with what they think will get them laid into the most abnoxious and misinformed stillborn Dogma in history.
jefhatfield
Apr 8, 2002, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by buffsldr
Wait a second. Maybe I was spoiled as an engineer, but most engineering grad students in engineering get tuition wavers and about 12-20k a year on top of that. Match that with student loans, and you live better than you did in undergrad.
that has been the case with "some" grad students, but not the average grad student from what i have seen and we live in different states with different systems...you are a mechanical engineer and i am a network engineer (no shortage of us around)
if you are connected with a brick and mortar, which most traditional engineers are of the mechanical, metallurgical, structural, and civil engineers; you probably have an infrastructure that pays for senior engineers to get further education
in high tech in the silicon valley, we are at the lowest time in our history and most of us are tied to one of the 2600+ IT companies in the region
now maybe you are in a computer company, but i am talking in general here and i have not heard of many computer/network/software engineers that got their education paid for by somebody else
traditional non-computer engineers do not often consider us real engineers since i don't recall 4 years of physics, chemistry, and calculus...he he (i got my ba in a business subject and later took the certification route...some got their mba or some other non-techie master's or phd then went the certification route because the pay is there right now in IT)
a lot of computer related engineers, some with huge salaries, never recieved any college degree and not all of us in computers are good in math either...thank god for math co-processors;)
the main society of engineers, or ieee, wants to toss out the designation of engineer for software engineers and programmers and just let the ee's and el's have that title...oh well, as long as i get paid i will be happy being called a computer slave boy...which we all are...unless we are slave girls:D
jefhatfield
Apr 8, 2002, 10:21 PM
ps - very few of us consider ourselves real engineers...we are just called that at work for a lack of a better title like network dude, systems dude, programmer dude, and q and a dude (or dudette...it that a term?:p :p :p
alex_ant
Apr 8, 2002, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by buffsldr
Wait a second. Maybe I was spoiled as an engineer, but most engineering grad students in engineering get tuition wavers and about 12-20k a year on top of that.
Engineering grad students in engineering might, but engineering grad students in English sure don't!
Haha! Ha! Hahaha! Hahahah. Ha. Haha. Ah.
Alex
MacAztec
Apr 8, 2002, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by mcrain
Off topic -->
I went to Michigan and majored in engineering, followed by law school at Illinois. I consider myself pretty liberal, but if some wacky west coast hippy tried to make it here in the midwest, they'd end up limping home with corn sticking out of their nude hippy butts.
We don't have the weather or scenery of the west coast, but I guess it's worth it to avoid the nappy rich hippies.
Really, what years were you there? Are we talkin' about Michigan State University, or Michigan University (Wolverines)
jefhatfield
Apr 8, 2002, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by buffsldr
Just like Mathew Sheppard?
...i remember after that incident there was this christian identity group that condemned mathew shepard and blamed him for getting killed because of his sexual preference
i know religion has been a popular topic here on macrumors this month, but any christian, jew, muslim, hindu, bhuddist, or any others who condemn someone to death or agree to killing in the name of god is truly lost
i have strong views on this because i did missionary work in belfast and the previous christian who got sent to the area before me was shot and killed by the british soldiers on falls road in belfast...and he was an ordained british minister from the church of england
well, now i an well off topic;)
hey krossfyter, help me out here...he he
mcrain
Apr 10, 2002, 01:18 PM
Michigan - Wolverines. I was there from 90-94. Aerospace.
Hemingray
Apr 10, 2002, 10:46 PM
There IS a God! The systems admin is replacing our 7100 with a G3 tomorrow! :D
jefhatfield
Apr 11, 2002, 10:47 AM
i know i will never be god in heaven, but if i ever make it to a level of a real network administrator, i will take on god like power...he he
only the chp in california is more revered or feared...thanks to eric estrada
now we need a show where a network administrator and his network engineer underlings could be a hero in a nighttime tv series called "tcp/ip diaries" or something like that...nah, that would never fly:D
or how about the "adventures of subnetting"
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