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MacRumors
Sep 2, 2003, 12:16 AM
Someone posted a fake CNet article regarding Apple losing 14,000 processors.

IP: 208.191.58.123
url: adsl-208-191-58-123.dsl.fyvlar.swbell.net

Explanation/Screenshot: [url]http://www.chaosmint.com/mac/cnetfake-g5/



me_17213
Sep 2, 2003, 12:22 AM
How do we know this is fake?

I would just like to have some evidence one way or the other...
before I start to do a DOS attack on his ass!

Just j/k:D

or am I......;)

arn
Sep 2, 2003, 12:23 AM
http://news.com.com@208.191.58.123/2100-1012_3-5069948.html?tag=fd_top

Look at the url.

arn

FredAkbar
Sep 2, 2003, 12:26 AM
I noticed that at the bottom, it shows Apple's stock price--it says it's around $26...which isn't exactly accurate...I don't know if that matters, I just found it odd.

JtheLemur
Sep 2, 2003, 12:26 AM
Hahaha, posted it on forums.macnn.com and the mods quickly deleted it. they have noooo sense of humor. reposted it there as an FYI post. Those bums!

Man, my heart skipped a beat when I saw this for the few minutes it was up on the main page!

me_17213
Sep 2, 2003, 12:28 AM
Thanks for the tip.

Ryan256
Sep 2, 2003, 12:29 AM
How do we know for sure that this is fake? Who/what is the source that says so? And what motivation would somebody have to post a wacked-out fake article like this?

bobindashadows
Sep 2, 2003, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by Ryan256
How do we know for sure that this is fake? Who/what is the source that says so? And what motivation would somebody have to post a wacked-out fake article like this?
We know it is fake because the web address actually goes to the guy's IP address, 208.191.58.123, and the "news.com.com" is irrelevant to the location of the web site.

The reason is because some people have too much time on their hands and spend it wasting other people's time.

cb911
Sep 2, 2003, 12:51 AM
ok, so it's fake in the sense that it's not a CNET article. but that doesn't mean the content is fake.

anyone know a way to find out if that really happened? wouldn't IBM have announced something like that... actually now that i come to think of it they'd probably try and keep it hush hush.

what if it really happened? if might not have been with 14,000 chips, and it might not have been from that sort of sabotage, but IBM could have lost a large number of G5's and this guy is just trying to let everyone know what happened.


and what's up with that site 'news.com.com'? :confused: does it have an exact copy of all the articles from news.com or what?:eek:

arn
Sep 2, 2003, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by cb911

ok, so it's fake in the sense that it's not a CNET article. but that doesn't mean the content is fake

It does mean the content is fake. (And you wonder why people go through the trouble of doing these fakes?)

This page is on some guys home computer via ADSL. The page was entirely fabricated to fool people.

If you believe it to be true... I can forward you a few emails from PayPal and eBay that indicate that you need to reenter your credit card because they need to "verify" your information.

Read: http://www.chaosmint.com/mac/cnetfake-g5/

Sol
Sep 2, 2003, 12:56 AM
Does anyone get the feeling Apple and IBM are being unfairly targeted by people like this idiot who posted the fake story? I wonder what his/her motives were and I hope Apple's competitors are in no way involved with this lying scumbag.

The G5s are real and here to stay. Unforseen delays are not unusual in the computer industry.

MacSlut
Sep 2, 2003, 01:08 AM
A PC that was mission critical in the delivery of the G5 from IBM to Apple was infected by a virus.

Just because I'm joking doesn't make this not true! Enjoy.

ChilyMack
Sep 2, 2003, 01:09 AM
Yeah, all that, and it says it's fake at the bottom.

Some web sleuths we got, here...

heheh.

neb_greely
Sep 2, 2003, 01:15 AM
Yes, you're eager to get your G5s. And probably this guy is too. But before everyone takes the wrath of their impatience out on him, read the full article. At the bottom he said:

" This article is a parody, intended as a little comic relief in a slow news period for a news-starved community. All graphics, stories ('cepting the bogus one) , and other proprietary parts of this here webpage are CNET's, not mine. Hope you enjoyed it - M. "

arn
Sep 2, 2003, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by ChilyMack
Yeah, all that, and it says it's fake at the bottom.

Some web sleuths we got, here...


ChilyMack (or should I say Mr Martin Miller),

The original did not have that notice... as you would know, since it's your page.

Original: http://www.chaosmint.com/mac/cnetfake-g5/applecnetfake.html

ChilyMack
Sep 2, 2003, 01:20 AM
/remove sarcasm "sleuths"

/end

cb911
Sep 2, 2003, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by arn
It does mean the content is fake. (And you wonder why people go through the trouble of doing these fakes?)

This page is on some guys home computer via ADSL. The page was entirely fabricated to fool people.

If you believe it to be true... I can forward you a few emails from PayPal and eBay that indicate that you need to reenter your credit card because they need to "verify" your information.

Read: http://www.chaosmint.com/mac/cnetfake-g5/

yeah, it's a fake news.com article, but haven't people used parody to convey a thought about certain events in the past? :confused: that way, if it is truthful information they won't be held responsible for damages.

edit>>

i remember one story a person wrote about some Apple employees sitting in a bar somewhere talking about new PowerBooks, i think it was about the 17". the person who wrote the stort told it from the perspective of a person just sitting in the bar, overhearing the Apple guys talking.

from what i can remember about it all the info was correct (i think). but of course it was a fake, because you wouldn't see Apple people sitting out in public talking about something like that.

that fake article could have the same purpose as that story. maybe. :p

arn
Sep 2, 2003, 01:47 AM
here's perhaps the most famous fake:

Singer Britney Spears Killed in Car Accident
http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/10_900811

over 150,000 hits in 12 hours.

arn

trog
Sep 2, 2003, 02:00 AM
Boy, if I were you chilly miller, or whatever your name is I'd be careful with stuff like that.

I'm quite sure Apple wouldn't find this the least bit humorous given all the upset consumers this past week.

The littlest things can send stock tumbling... and quite possibly lawyers to your door.

Nermal
Sep 2, 2003, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by cb911
and what's up with that site 'news.com.com'? :confused: does it have an exact copy of all the articles from news.com or what?:eek:

news.com.com - sounds weird doesn't it. If you were to buy the site "apple", it'd be referred to as www.apple.com. In this case, they've bought a site called "com", therefore getting www.com.com. What they've also done is set up a second server on the same domain name. Just like apple has a server called "developer", resulting in developer.apple.com, CNet has one called "news", so you get news.com.com.

Hopefully that all made sense. It's not entirely accurate, I just tried to simplify it (and it's still a mess... figures.)

ChilyMack
Sep 2, 2003, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by trog
Boy, if I were you chilly miller...stock tumbling.

Since Apple is traded regularly at 2 in the morning.

Seriously, I just thought we needed something to talk about. I'm tiring of "*** Al 15 inch TOMORROW Confirmed ***" and "iMac 3 G5??".

And it was a good html brushup, for someone who's been spoiled of late by Dreamweaver.

I've replaced it, anyway, with my favorite Mac desktop. That's harmless enough.

Martin

bwawn
Sep 2, 2003, 03:04 AM
Originally posted by ChilyMack
Since Apple is traded regularly at 2 in the morning.


That's not quite how the market works. It's not like someone can post a convincing fake at 2 in the morning and then figure the next day that all will be sorted out and understood once trading begins.

cb911
Sep 2, 2003, 05:50 AM
Originally posted by ChilyMack
Since Apple is traded regularly at 2 in the morning.

Seriously, I just thought we needed something to talk about. I'm tiring of "*** Al 15 inch TOMORROW Confirmed ***" and "iMac 3 G5??".

And it was a good html brushup, for someone who's been spoiled of late by Dreamweaver.

I've replaced it, anyway, with my favorite Mac desktop. That's harmless enough.

Martin

yeah, good job with that, you had me going. :) i was getting sick of all the same old PowerBook talk as well. although what's up with that pic that's in place of the article? it's a big big isn't it? :p

so the whole story, content and all was fake? come on, tell us - do you know someone who works in IBM, or used to? ;) or just PM me and give me the low down. :D

HasanDaddy
Sep 2, 2003, 06:09 AM
I love my Mac and love Steve Jobs

but Apple is bringing this upon themselves

ever since the 17" PB 6 week wait... Apple has now given itself a reputation of introducing products, and taking FOREVER to deliver them

either they have to start shipping sooner, or become less incompetent with wait times

bikertwin
Sep 2, 2003, 06:55 AM
What most people who do this sort of stuff forget is that they have to emulate the writing style of the newspaper/magazine/news source that they're trying to emulate.

Read any story on News.com and compare it to this fake, and you'll immediately realize it's a fake.

The real danger comes when fakers get good at emulating the style they're mimicking.

bobindashadows
Sep 2, 2003, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by bikertwin
What most people who do this sort of stuff forget is that they have to emulate the writing style of the newspaper/magazine/news source that they're trying to emulate.

Read any story on News.com and compare it to this fake, and you'll immediately realize it's a fake.

The real danger comes when fakers get good at emulating the style they're mimicking.

The people who think of that aren't the people who notice the IP address at the top of the screen.

And the reason the Britney story got so many hits is people like to read good news ;)

MrMacMan
Sep 2, 2003, 10:25 AM
Haha, one of the best apple fake rumors/articles ever.

That and the iWalk.

:p

iJon
Sep 2, 2003, 05:46 PM
HOLY S***. this guy lives in my town. what should i do to him.

iJon

Einherjar
Sep 2, 2003, 07:04 PM
Dude, I live in Fayetteville, too!

iJon and I are wondering who in the **** did it...

Einherjar
Sep 2, 2003, 07:07 PM
EDIT:

Finally decided to RTFA...

Einherjar
Sep 2, 2003, 07:20 PM
Dude, Martin, had me scared there for a while...(actually bothered to go over the thread this time).

Last place I'd expect to see you online, dude, welcome aboard. Nice fake--I decided to stop lurking to comment when I heard that a fyvlar IP did it, lol.. :-P

PM me your AIM, if you happen to use iChat, let's talk.

Adam

iJon
Sep 2, 2003, 07:23 PM
you better watch out martin, im gonna come get ya for the whole macrumors community, lol

iJon

tny
Sep 3, 2003, 12:25 PM
1. If the person who posted this story owns any stock in Apple competitors, he could be begging for an SEC investigation. I wouldn't recommend this particular kind of satire (I didn't read the whole article, so I don't know if any of the other content was obviously satirical; if the disclaimer was always on the page, that might help, but might not - IANAL).

2. The part of the URI before the @ at sign is the username on that server (or if there's a colon, username:password); on a site that has user authentication, that part actually means something.

SiliconAddict
Sep 3, 2003, 05:40 PM
Hmm I wonder if this would erk CNET enough to have them go after the person who did this. I mean they did fake a CNET article.

If nothing it's a pathetic attempt to rain on Apple's parade. Sad sad little man....er....boy.

iJon
Sep 3, 2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by SiliconAddict
Hmm I wonder if this would erk CNET enough to have them go after the person who did this. I mean they did fake a CNET article.

If nothing it's a pathetic attempt to rain on Apple's parade. Sad sad little man....er....boy.
that would suck completly, and i would feel bad for him because he lives 5 miles away from him. he can come to my house and hide from them.

iJon

zac4mac
Sep 4, 2003, 06:21 AM
Thanks for the comic relief, Martin.

I forgot about waiiitttting for my new duallie for a few minutes.

Zack

jjn2724
Sep 6, 2003, 02:38 PM
Friends,

1. I corresponded with the CNet author to which this fake article had been attributed. Evidently I was the first.

2. The article is fake. Don't believe me. E-mail him.

3. A lesson in skepticism or epistomology is in order.

A. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Yes, the story COULD have been true. But lacking solid evidence to that effect, I'm not wasting any of my time believing so.

B. A lack of evidence does not prove the contrary.

There are lots of wonderful sites on the Net about things skeptical and how we know what we know.

On the other hand, don't believe a word I'm saying. http://forums.macrumors.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

iJon
Sep 6, 2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by jjn2724
Friends,

1. I corresponded with the CNet author to which this fake article had been attributed. Evidently I was the first.

2. The article is fake. Don't believe me. E-mail him.

3. A lesson in skepticism or epistomology is in order.

A. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Yes, the story COULD have been true. But lacking solid evidence to that effect, I'm not wasting any of my time believing so.

B. A lack of evidence does not prove the contrary.

There are lots of wonderful sites on the Net about things skeptical and how we know what we know.

On the other hand, don't believe a word I'm saying. http://forums.macrumors.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
dude, have you not been reading the thread, we know its fake. this guy lives 5 miles away from me.

iJon