uninstlaling programs

[passthejonch]

i want to uninstall america's army the game

how would i go about doing this on my mac?

[Veldek]

Originally posted by passthejonch
i want to uninstall america's army the game

how would i go about doing this on my mac?

Put it into the Trash. That's it.

[Daveman Deluxe]

One thing that's nice about Windows is the Add/Remove programs feature. I wish Mac had a similar feature. That way you could get rid of the prefs files, application support files, etc. without really trying.

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by Daveman Deluxe
One thing that's nice about Windows is the Add/Remove programs feature. I wish Mac had a similar feature. That way you could get rid of the prefs files, application support files, etc. without really trying.

But the add/remove feature never removes everything. If what want to complete delete everything installed by a program you have to do it by hand (this includes getting into the registry).


Lethal

[chadfromdallas]

Originally posted by LethalWolfe
But the add/remove feature never removes everything. If what want to complete delete everything installed by a program you have to do it by hand (this includes getting into the registry).


Lethal


Odd, I just removed Folding@home from this computer and it uninstalled it, and registry items. ;)

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by chadfromdallas
Odd, I just removed Folding@home from this computer and it uninstalled it, and registry items. ;)


exception that proves the rule. ;) More often than after I perform a "remove" I get a dialog box saying that not all files were removed.


Lethal

[chadfromdallas]

Originally posted by LethalWolfe
exception that proves the rule. ;) More often than after I perform a "remove" I get a dialog box saying that not all files were removed.


Lethal

Ah, in that case, yea, you just have to go where the folder is and erase it. It usually tells you.

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by chadfromdallas
Ah, in that case, yea, you just have to go where the folder is and erase it. It usually tells you.

And then I go and run a registry cleaning program which almost always finds entries for the programs that have been "removed."


Lethal

[rainman::|:|]

the average pref file is about 5k. there's no reason to flip out if it's not uninstalled-- it takes no real disk space, and will be there again if you ever install the program again (in many cases, complete with serial number). So dragging to the trash is a fast and effective way of removing the app. In my windows experience, add/remove programs does not remove near enough, so you have to go through the extra step of "removing" the program, only to go remove things by hand. Usually, in some cryptic path that the average user can't follow from memory, so they don't bother.

pnw

[mrjamin]

Originally posted by Daveman Deluxe
One thing that's nice about Windows is the Add/Remove programs feature. I wish Mac had a similar feature. That way you could get rid of the prefs files, application support files, etc. without really trying.

whats easier:

windows:
click on start, click on settings, click on control panel, double click on add/remove programs, scroll thru' list to find application, click remove, follow on screen prompts, wait 60s for app to remove, get told that not all files where removed, navigate windows to program files, find folder, attempt to delete folder, get error message saying folder is still in use, reboot, attempt to delete folder again

ok, as proved, that last chunk isn't always required but 50% of the time you have to delete folders manually

osx:
hit shift+cmd+a
find folder/app, ctrl+click >move to trash, OR cmd+backspace OR drag to trash

QED :D

[Freg3000]

Originally posted by mrjamin
whats easier:

windows:
click on start, click on settings, click on control panel, double click on add/remove programs, scroll thru' list to find application, click remove, follow on screen prompts, wait 60s for app to remove, get told that not all files where removed, navigate windows to program files, find folder, attempt to delete folder, get error message saying folder is still in use, reboot, attempt to delete folder again

ok, as proved, that last chunk isn't always required but 50% of the time you have to delete folders manually

osx:
hit shift+cmd+a
find folder/app, ctrl+click >move to trash, OR cmd+backspace OR drag to trash

QED :D

Hmmmmmm......tough choice. Most of my Windows friends don't understand how it could possible.

[acj]

Actually on XP, you can just do what some people find more idiot proof than the whole concept of "dragging" to the trash. You press one key: Delete.

Or right click and click "delete"

Then it tells you that you are only deleting the icon, and provides you a link to remove the whole program. Deleting any little remaining files is not that necisary unless you are anal.

[mrjamin]

Originally posted by acj
Actually on XP, you can just do what some people find more idiot proof than the whole concept of "dragging" to the trash. You press one key: Delete.

Or right click and click "delete"

Then it tells you that you are only deleting the icon, and provides you a link to remove the whole program. Deleting any little remaining files is not that necisary unless you are anal.

good point. however, that only works for shortcuts that the installer created and doesn't seem to work for 50% of the things in the start menu (the start menu - now that's a bloody stupid idea! i NEVER use mine!)

[acj]

Originally posted by mrjamin
good point. however, that only works for shortcuts that the installer created and doesn't seem to work for 50% of the things in the start menu (the start menu - now that's a bloody stupid idea! i NEVER use mine!)

Another good point.

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by acj
Actually on XP, you can just do what some people find more idiot proof than the whole concept of "dragging" to the trash. You press one key: Delete.

Or right click and click "delete"

Then it tells you that you are only deleting the icon, and provides you a link to remove the whole program. Deleting any little remaining files is not that necisary unless you are anal.

does this way delete entries from the registry? I've only tinkered w/XP. I've been using Win2k for a few years now and haven't found a compeling<sp?> reason to change to XP.


Lethal

[FattyMembrane]

Originally posted by acj

Then it tells you that you are only deleting the icon, and provides you a link to remove the whole program.

one of the things i like about osx is that the icon is the application. whenever i want to download a new program, i don't have to use an installer that places the file inside of some byzantine structure on the hard drive and then throws up "shortcuts" on the desktop/startmenu/etc.

[mattmack]

Originally posted by FattyMembrane
one of the things i like about osx is that the icon is the application. whenever i want to download a new program, i don't have to use an installer that places the file inside of some byzantine structure on the hard drive and then throws up "shortcuts" on the desktop/startmenu/etc. I have to agree with you. I like the fact the icon is the app not some obscure reference to it

[coolsoldier]

Originally posted by FattyMembrane
one of the things i like about osx is that the icon is the application. whenever i want to download a new program, i don't have to use an installer that places the file inside of some byzantine structure on the hard drive and then throws up "shortcuts" on the desktop/startmenu/etc.

Oh I just wish that was always the case :)

Honestly, even though the OS was apparently designed to have application=icon, about 50% of the applications I have installed have to be found among their support files. If Apple could manage to get every developer to package their apps, that would be great...problem is, they don't :p

[Daveman Deluxe]

Only Cocoa apps have that one-to-one icon-to-app ratio. Carbon apps still install their support files in a separate directory since they have to be compatible with OS9.

[coolsoldier]

Originally posted by Daveman Deluxe
Only Cocoa apps have that one-to-one icon-to-app ratio. Carbon apps still install their support files in a separate directory since they have to be compatible with OS9.

warning: rant below

Carbon apps CAN be put into OS X bundles -- Think iTunes. Actually, I've gone in with App Bundler and "packaged" several Carbon apps for personal use (so it is possible), but unfortunately, too many times developers put their programs into bundles and still leave their support files outside of the application bundle (i.e. ../../../<data file> relative to the application). AppleWorks does this -- There is an OS X-Style bundle, but then support folders sitting next to it. If they are going to leave required files outside of the package, I'd rather they not package them at all (so that I can go in and package them myself).

ATTENTION DEVELOPERS: EITHER FULLY BUNDLE YOUR SOFTWARE OR DON'T BUNDLE IT AT ALL

I'm presently working on a utility that basically tries to do exactly what I am describing--bundling a user's unbundles carbon apps into .app bundles, but like I said, STUPID DEVELOPERS LEAVE REQUIRED FILES OUT OF THEIR BUNDLES. App Bundler is as close to this as any program currently available -- but it's still kind of messy.