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Sep 29, 2003, 10:59 PM

I am tending to a friend's B&W G3-350 as it receives a Pioneer 105 DVD/RW upgrade. DVD movies will not play on the Apple DVD Player v1.1 We are aware that this model of Mac uses a hardware encoder to play movies and must use v1.1.

Q: Did removing the original CD/DVD Player take the encoding hardware with it? Or is that encoder on the motherboard after all and I just goofed on a driver/extension!?

ps- it plays CDs & records CDs just fine. Here is the error that haunts us at nights: "Apple DVD Player cannot open because the required hardware cannot be found"

Thank you!
paul & bewildered crew

Sep 30, 2003, 11:37 AM
The encoder on the b&w g3 is a add on card to the video card. If you want to play dvd's on it you would either need teh add on card which will cost 70- 90 dollars on ebay or more since i havnt checked lately, or a video card capable of dvd playback such as the Radeon MAc Edition, Radeon 7000, Ati 128 something. I recomend teh Radeon Mac Edition or the 7000

Sep 30, 2003, 05:12 PM
I will look into your video card solution as I know that is where encoders are found on today's technology. Though I have to admit the machine has been playing DVDs on an ATI 16mb PCI card using it's original DVD player. As soon as I plopped in the Pioneer it stopped being able to play them.

I have an idea that this early DVD-capable Mac is reliant on the original DVD player somehow, even if the encoder is located on that 16mb card. I'll look around, thanks!


Sep 30, 2003, 07:28 PM
What OS are you using?

Sep 30, 2003, 08:01 PM
Yes, you are right that is important! She is running OS9.2 w/ player software v1.1. (Higher v's did not work funny enough)

Here are other stats just for curiosity.
16MB PCI (ATI 3D Rage 128)

(common stats here: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g3/stats/powermac_g3_350_bl.html)

Thanks for your time!
paul and crew

Sep 30, 2003, 09:21 PM
install the highest version of dvd player there is and install this patch

and this (more patches) http://web.tiscali.it/no-redirect-tiscali/thinkdifferent/english/tools.html

and try this http://web.tiscali.it/no-redirect-tiscali/thinkdifferent/english/patchs/appledvddriverpatch.html


Sep 30, 2003, 09:23 PM
and this http://web.tiscali.it/no-redirect-tiscali/thinkdifferent/english/howto/y%26y.html

Oct 7, 2003, 03:59 PM
Thank you for your fast and accurate replys.

We carpet bombed the B&W G3 with your suggestions and got the Pioneer to play DVDs. Funny enough, the Patch now allows us to use ANY version of Apple DVD player. Even v1.1 !

The night's reward was Tolkein's "The Two Towers", a hit for everyone- thanks.

paul :D !