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Bernie-Mac
Dec 12, 2007, 11:30 PM
Right now its just a proof-of-concept, all it does is record for 5 seconds and play the video back but the developer will update it and im sure with a few updates it will be fantastic!!
http://www.modmyifone.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=1670



SRSound
Dec 12, 2007, 11:32 PM
Yup...almost anything left to be desired in the iPhone can be accomplished with a software update

TurboSC
Dec 13, 2007, 02:17 AM
Yup...almost anything left to be desired in the iPhone can be accomplished with a software update

I agree. Kinda makes me angry, but then again I think Apple will ultimately do it right.

madofrain
Dec 13, 2007, 02:39 AM
I opted for the ipod touch noting 3rd party developers were really picking up the slack where Apple were happy to cripple a product to ensure their product road map has clear upgrade details for the average joe..

Ideally if its capable of performing a function it should be doing it out of the box. I have a last fm scrobbler and internet radio tuner,both useful to me..Without mentioning the yoinked iphone apps..3rd party developers are really making a big difference with the iphone/ipod touch..How does Apple repay them? Every firmware upgrade they get put back to square one.
Roll on next year and the dev kit..

ajl917
Dec 13, 2007, 08:20 AM
From the developer, this app has a very bright future...

this sample it records 10 fps. but the final will have a 15-30 fps window hopefully. youll notice playback isnt steady the frame numbers kinda jump every other frame.. this is just a quick sample and was thrown together really quick to prove my concept for getting video would work.

the app should be able to record as long as you have space to store the files. and will be a camera.app replacement with more camera features and video or still. and also have filters for video and other stuff.

also will be setting it up to be able to record your desktop. like a screen video capture app. where it will capture whatever you are doing and make a video of it.

Bernie-Mac
Dec 13, 2007, 02:13 PM
^ wow i am really excited about this app's future!!!!

speakerwizard
Dec 13, 2007, 05:45 PM
is there any example vids out there yet? or someone from here post? i'm not jailbroken but curious to see what it will eventually be like legitimately

speakerwizard
Dec 13, 2007, 05:56 PM
ah ok, it doesnt save it, just plays it back once for now.

Cleverboy
Dec 13, 2007, 07:22 PM
Here are some interesting stats. The iPhone currently uses the PMB8876 S-GOLD 2 chip from Infineon Technologies. Back when it first got cracked open, Infineon had a page up describing everything about the chip... then they ripped the page down and started whistling after the launch (so odd). :)

ARM926TM based single modem and application
processor with cache support and fast tightly-coupled memories
Parallel/serial display interface supporting high
resolution colour displays
Supporting camera applications of up to 2 MPixel
MPEG4/H.263 encoder hardware (MOVEŽ coprocessor), support for
video streaming and video telephony
Standardized multimedia extension interface (MMIC-IF), MMC/SD
interface, SD IO capable
USB 2.0 on-the-go, full speed, fast IRDA
Polyphonic Ringer support for up to 44 voices at up to
48 kHz sampling rate

Nice! An H.263 encoder... and a MOVE coprocessor to help out with the encoding...? You don't say! Uh, oh... is that support for recording to an SD card (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card)? Hm. Now that's just teasing. Fast IRDA... as in "Infra Red" device support? Geez. Y'know... its as if there's so much room to grow, it ain't even funny.

Where's my GPS/SD Card Reader/Infra Red transmitter accessory? 'Cause personally, I'd like to use my navigation/video recording/universal remote control third-party applications... like... YESTERDAY! :D

~ CB

Victor ch
Dec 13, 2007, 07:27 PM
I was about to start a thread on this hehe but saw this one. Ok this app must be installed with fugu or something like it, you must change permissions to 0755 and must use this method (not AFPd). Once you can do it its pretty cool... proves that Apple can really make this if they wanted.... anyway its one cool app, shame its 5 secs and it doesn't save but proves that developers rule!

-Victor

MacRumors
Dec 13, 2007, 08:57 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

Monster and Friends posted (http://monsterandfriends.com/?q=node/50) a demo application for the iPhone that allows it to record video at up to 45 frames per second. In its current form, it can only record 5 seconds of video, but the developer expects the final version will record somewhere between 15-30+ fps and have an unlimited file length.

Gizmodo posts a video (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/iphone-video-recording/iphone-video-recording-now-working-with-drunknbass-333346.php) demonstrating the application.

As always, this requires a hacked iPhone to install a 3rd party app, but does demonstrate that the iPhone is capable of video recording. Hopefully we'll see some official applications once the official developer's kit is release in February.



Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2007/12/13/iphone-video-recording-proof-of-concept/)

chr1s60
Dec 13, 2007, 09:17 PM
Cool. So where is Apple with their updates? Just about a month ago there was the article released where the person at Apple said that everything people had been wanting on the iPhone was already developed and Apple was just waiting for the right time to release it... well, any day now is good for me. Apple doesn't want people hacking their phones, yet they continue to not release new updates with useful apps. I know Apple has the talent working for them that could develop these kinds of apps. Third party apps are coming in a few months, so unless Apple is planning on a 500mb software update with new features right before they open the phone up to 3rd party apps, I don't see why they aren't releasing anything new right now.

Drumjim85
Dec 13, 2007, 11:15 PM
It would be cool if you could post the video you recorded to you tube from you phone.

Bernie-Mac
Dec 14, 2007, 01:44 AM
It would be cool if you could post the video you recorded to you tube from you phone.

now that would be awesome

mainstreetmark
Dec 14, 2007, 07:19 AM
I opted for the ipod touch noting 3rd party developers were really picking up the slack where Apple were happy to cripple a product to ensure their product road map has clear upgrade details for the average joe..

Ideally if its capable of performing a function it should be doing it out of the box. I have a last fm scrobbler and internet radio tuner,both useful to me..Without mentioning the yoinked iphone apps..3rd party developers are really making a big difference with the iphone/ipod touch..How does Apple repay them? Every firmware upgrade they get put back to square one.
Roll on next year and the dev kit..

My god. I'm glad I'm not Apple with customers like you. How many years was it under development before it made even a single nickel? I suspect the patent applications alone are more than you make in a year.

Can't you just look at your iPhone and say "Man, it sure is good to get the world's most advanced phone/pod in my hands now, and enjoy my time on it while Apple evolves it." Christ, man. If you were around in 1984, and the Mac 128k came out, your post would say, "This is cool, and all, but where's Spotlight?"

emotion
Dec 14, 2007, 07:24 AM
Wait 'til firmware 2.x. Straight to YouTube video app on iPhone anyone?

crackermac
Dec 14, 2007, 08:41 AM
It would be cool if you could post the video you recorded to you tube from you phone.

The way they have been working with google, I have no doubt they will let that happen.

Rocketman
Dec 14, 2007, 09:06 AM
Cool. So where is Apple with their updates? Just about a month ago there was the article released where the person at Apple said that everything people had been wanting on the iPhone was already developed and Apple was just waiting for the right time to release it... well, any day now is good for me. Apple doesn't want people hacking their phones, yet they continue to not release new updates with useful apps. I know Apple has the talent working for them that could develop these kinds of apps. Third party apps are coming in a few months, so unless Apple is planning on a 500mb software update with new features right before they open the phone up to 3rd party apps, I don't see why they aren't releasing anything new right now.

iTunes could be set-up to install and uninstall preferred applications to simplify the interface and optimize the user experience and space usage.

Rocketman

crackermac
Dec 14, 2007, 10:30 AM
iTunes could be set-up to install and uninstall preferred applications to simplify the interface and optimize the user experience and space usage.

Rocketman

Let's just hope they don't charge you for ever app you want to put on. Leave pricing up to the developer.

thegman1234
Dec 14, 2007, 06:17 PM
Wait 'til firmware 2.x. Straight to YouTube video app on iPhone anyone?

That's going to be an amazing feature, especially for college parties lol. Good thing youtube is moderated haha.

I feel like this is something that Apple would release in a software update, video functionality shouldn't require another program. But for the time being I guess it suffices.

February is going to be a great month for the iPhone.

pedroistheman
Dec 15, 2007, 01:24 PM
is this in apptapp yet? Still looking

SRSound
Dec 15, 2007, 04:20 PM
Here are some interesting stats. The iPhone currently uses the PMB8876 S-GOLD 2 chip from Infineon Technologies. Back when it first got cracked open, Infineon had a page up describing everything about the chip... then they ripped the page down and started whistling after the launch (so odd). :)



Nice! An H.263 encoder... and a MOVE coprocessor to help out with the encoding...? You don't say! Uh, oh... is that support for recording to an SD card (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card)? Hm. Now that's just teasing. Fast IRDA... as in "Infra Red" device support? Geez. Y'know... its as if there's so much room to grow, it ain't even funny.

Where's my GPS/SD Card Reader/Infra Red transmitter accessory? 'Cause personally, I'd like to use my navigation/video recording/universal remote control third-party applications... like... YESTERDAY! :D

~ CB


Well said; couldnt agree more! Especially an automatically-pairing GPS module for the car and an IR module for the home theater...

pedroistheman
Dec 16, 2007, 07:21 PM
so, I was browsing the posts on drunknbass' website and it doesn't look like the app is going to be available on installer at this time. are they waiting for the update,? it is just a "proof of concept" right now and doesn't even store the videos but I hope this will be available on installer soon.

fpnc
Dec 16, 2007, 11:46 PM
I doubt that we will ever see video recording capability on the current iPhone (that is, as an official release from Apple). Apple is unlikely to provide new functionality like that when they can use those features in future products to promote "new and improved" iPhone hardware. Thus, I'd say that features such as video recording, voice-activated dialing, or any truly significant improvement in functionality will have to wait until the second generation iPhone (and you'll have to buy a new handset to get those features).

Just look at the iPod marketing, very minor feature upgrades via software, new functionality only with new models or generations of hardware. It doesn't make any difference whether the current iPhone can do this or that (in theory or in a "proof of concept"), Apple isn't going to spend time or money to make the existing iPhone any better than it is today. The only significant features that Apple has added thus far (ring tones and the Apple WI-FI store) are both revenue generators and unless Apple can make money directly off of recording video there would be no justification to add this feature to the existing product. Sorry, but that's just the reality of doing business.

pedroistheman
Dec 17, 2007, 12:49 AM
I doubt that we will ever see video recording capability on the current iPhone (that is, as an official release from Apple). Apple is unlikely to provide new functionality like that when they can use those features in future products to promote "new and improved" iPhone hardware. Thus, I'd say that features such as video recording, voice-activated dialing, or any truly significant improvement in functionality will have to wait until the second generation iPhone (and you'll have to buy a new handset to get those features).

Just look at the iPod marketing, very minor feature upgrades via software, new functionality only with new models or generations of hardware. It doesn't make any difference whether the current iPhone can do this or that (in theory or in a "proof of concept"), Apple isn't going to spend time or money to make the existing iPhone any better than it is today. The only significant features that Apple has added thus far (ring tones and the Apple WI-FI store) are both revenue generators and unless Apple can make money directly off of recording video there would be no justification to add this feature to the existing product. Sorry, but that's just the reality of doing business.

First of all, the iPod is a completely different product. There is so much possibility with the iPhone. The SDK will be released in Febuary, and I am expecting some fairly useful apps. Besides, if apple refuses to give the iphone video recording when it has already been proven to work, I don't see many people with a model 1 iPhone buying an entirely new product when they can jailbreak and use this free product (I can't wait to see how much apple will charge for the apps!).

emotion
Dec 17, 2007, 01:52 AM
Apple isn't going to spend time or money to make the existing iPhone any better than it is today.

What nonsense.

Sorry, but that's just the reality of doing business.

...so is continuing business, pleasing existing customers and the biggest point of all, competition.

Apple ain't doing all this in a vacuum you know.

twoodcc
Dec 18, 2007, 12:22 PM
i really hope that they release this from apple next month

thegman1234
Dec 18, 2007, 08:02 PM
I doubt that we will ever see video recording capability on the current iPhone (that is, as an official release from Apple).

And you base this assumption on what? Please, I'd love to see any sort of evidence that may even justify this statement.

Apple is unlikely to provide new functionality like that when they can use those features in future products to promote "new and improved" iPhone hardware. Thus, I'd say that features such as video recording, voice-activated dialing, or any truly significant improvement in functionality will have to wait until the second generation iPhone (and you'll have to buy a new handset to get those features).

This one makes no sense at all. First of all the iPhone was developed with an upgradable platform for a reason. Apple releases software updates for EVERY product that can take one.

Just look at the iPod marketing, very minor feature upgrades via software, new functionality only with new models or generations of hardware.

What other than "minor feature upgrades via software" could you do to an iPod. It's a music player, obviously if they want to add a touch interface a new product has to come out.

It doesn't make any difference whether the current iPhone can do this or that (in theory or in a "proof of concept"), Apple isn't going to spend time or money to make the existing iPhone any better than it is today.

That is not true at all, especially because it will be years until the iPhone with 3g comes out. Apple won't just give up on a product less than a year into its release.

The only significant features that Apple has added thus far (ring tones and the Apple WI-FI store) are both revenue generators and unless Apple can make money directly off of recording video there would be no justification to add this feature to the existing product. Sorry, but that's just the reality of doing business.

Yes the ring tones and the music store are money generators, but they're also luxury features. And can you imagine a phone that doesn't have downloadable ring tones in this day and age? Your claim that Apple won't add video because it won't make Apple money is ridiculous. As for the reality of business, if that's a the way you do business, you won't be very successful. As much as a company wants to make money, they have to give back to the customer, it's good business.

Apple developed the iPhone on an upgradable platform for a reason, and with the SDK coming out in february, anything will be possible. If video functionality doesn't come out as a software update to the current camera program, I'm sure there will be a video program available through Apple if that's how the apps are going to be distributed. If not, then there already is one.

speakerwizard
Dec 18, 2007, 08:24 PM
also, apple have stated that their embedded products (appltv / iphone) will have 2 years of software updates garanteed. This is shown somehow in the earning reports also (cant remember the term, but its something to do with why the 802.11n upgrade had to be a paid for update)

fpnc
Dec 18, 2007, 10:40 PM
I still maintain that it's being way too optimistic to think that Apple will provide video recording capabilities on the current generation iPhone hardware. Further, as to the timing of the next generation iPhone all reports that I've seen suggest that this will happen either next summer or early in the second half of next year. Thus, if we don't see all these great new features that everyone seems to expect from Apple (for "free") within the next six months you can probably "forget about it."

Thus, the best that we can probably expect is the SDK in January/Feburary next year, and perhaps some enhancements to support push email and MS Exchange. IMO, anything beyond that is unlikely on the current generation product.

thegman1234
Dec 19, 2007, 09:39 AM
Thus, the best that we can probably expect is the SDK in January/Feburary next year, and perhaps some enhancements to support push email and MS Exchange. IMO, anything beyond that is unlikely on the current generation product.

The SDK is all we need though, look at Mac. You can do ANYTHING on your Mac without Apple giving it to you. You can design (Adobe gave us that), you can play unsupported content (such as WMV's thanks to flip), and you can even (yes you can) play games on a Mac thanks to the various game developers. Once the SDK is released, iPhone users don't even need Apple. So I think it's fairly certain that we'll get what we want on the iPhone. If people are developing for the phone now, when only jailbroken phones can use the software, imagine when ALL iPhones can use the software.

The only thing that the SDK may not help with is flash, because I don't know if plugins will be able to be developed/installed. But I don't doubt that Apple and Adobe will figure something out.

emotion
Dec 19, 2007, 09:50 AM
Thus, if we don't see all these great new features that everyone seems to expect from Apple (for "free") within the next six months you can probably "forget about it."


Mobile OSX is a platform that will continue through to the next iPhone too. Development is likely to be done for both platforms (hey, I can run Leopard on my 867MHz powerbook) so I think what you say is not that valid.

It'll become clear what the situation is in the new year. Glass half full or half empty? You might be right, or the counter argument might be. Neither of us knows at this stage but one thing is clear if Apple want to rule this market like they seem intent on doing then they better make friends of their customers. There is no other way they'll do this.

lanray
Dec 19, 2007, 10:02 AM
I wonder if Apple is doing something like this: they know that demand is up because it's the Holiday Season, so they won't do anything significant until January, when demand would usually be very low. Then, they release more features, a few SDK Goodies, and whet our whistle for more apps down the road.

At least this is a rationalization that will keep my frustration at bay for the lack of software updates so far. Seriously - for the most part, all we've gotten is iTunes and languages, which is not much given they hype early on.

fpnc
Dec 19, 2007, 09:40 PM
The SDK is all we need though, look at Mac. You can do ANYTHING on your Mac without Apple giving it to you...<snip>...

What makes you think that the iPhone SDK will allow complete access to all of the hardware and features on the iPhone (potential or otherwise)? It's much more likely that for security reasons, product stability, and limited time to market that the initial SDK will offer only a constrained set of APIs that will more resemble widgets rather than full-blown native applications. There will likely be no direct access to the hardware which means that something like video recording will still require a "hacked" (jail-broken) iPhone.

thegman1234
Dec 20, 2007, 12:25 AM
What makes you think that the iPhone SDK will allow complete access to all of the hardware and features on the iPhone (potential or otherwise)? It's much more likely that for security reasons, product stability, and limited time to market that the initial SDK will offer only a constrained set of APIs that will more resemble widgets rather than full-blown native applications. There will likely be no direct access to the hardware which means that something like video recording will still require a "hacked" (jail-broken) iPhone.

I disagree with you, but at this point it's a matter of opinion. We won't know until February.

As far as the SDK goes, I don't think applications will have to be developed with it. I think it's more of a symbol of Apple opening up the phone. But like I said it's just a matter of opinion at this point.

Cindy Joffrion
Dec 26, 2007, 10:37 PM
First of all, the iPod is a completely different product. There is so much possibility with the iPhone. The SDK will be released in Febuary, and I am expecting some fairly useful apps. Besides, if apple refuses to give the iphone video recording when it has already been proven to work, I don't see many people with a model 1 iPhone buying an entirely new product when they can jailbreak and use this free product (I can't wait to see how much apple will charge for the apps!).

Lots of folks confuse the iPod and iPhone.

Hecklerdanny
Jan 2, 2008, 10:54 AM
I doubt that we will ever see video recording capability on the current iPhone (that is, as an official release from Apple). Apple is unlikely to provide new functionality like that when they can use those features in future products to promote "new and improved" iPhone hardware. Thus, I'd say that features such as video recording, voice-activated dialing, or any truly significant improvement in functionality will have to wait until the second generation iPhone (and you'll have to buy a new handset to get those features).

Just look at the iPod marketing, very minor feature upgrades via software, new functionality only with new models or generations of hardware. It doesn't make any difference whether the current iPhone can do this or that (in theory or in a "proof of concept"), Apple isn't going to spend time or money to make the existing iPhone any better than it is today. The only significant features that Apple has added thus far (ring tones and the Apple WI-FI store) are both revenue generators and unless Apple can make money directly off of recording video there would be no justification to add this feature to the existing product. Sorry, but that's just the reality of doing business.


I disagree with this theory. Ever heard of iMovie? I can see it now...Record video on your phone and import it into iMovie. It's win-win for Apple, you record the video with the iPhone and you edit it in iMovie, which you need a Mac to use.

Hecklerdanny
Jan 2, 2008, 01:24 PM
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emotion
Jan 2, 2008, 01:30 PM
I disagree with this theory. Ever heard of iMovie? I can see it now...Record video on your phone and import it into iMovie. It's win-win for Apple, you record the video with the iPhone and you edit it in iMovie, which you need a Mac to use.

A simple partnering to YouTube for this generated video would also be attractive to Apple/Google. I mean the only two current legit 3rd party apps are both Google.

mikebook pro
Feb 1, 2008, 07:23 AM
Here are some interesting stats. The iPhone currently uses the PMB8876 S-GOLD 2 chip from Infineon Technologies. Back when it first got cracked open, Infineon had a page up describing everything about the chip... then they ripped the page down and started whistling after the launch (so odd). :)



Nice! An H.263 encoder... and a MOVE coprocessor to help out with the encoding...? You don't say! Uh, oh... is that support for recording to an SD card (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card)? Hm. Now that's just teasing. Fast IRDA... as in "Infra Red" device support? Geez. Y'know... its as if there's so much room to grow, it ain't even funny.

Where's my GPS/SD Card Reader/Infra Red transmitter accessory? 'Cause personally, I'd like to use my navigation/video recording/universal remote control third-party applications... like... YESTERDAY! :D

~ CB

?!

It seems like no one even read this.

Now, I'm no expert but Cleverboy sounds right here... imagine everything i iPhone will be able to do!

erijane
Mar 15, 2008, 04:12 PM
Right now its just a proof-of-concept, all it does is record for 5 seconds and play the video back but the developer will update it and im sure with a few updates it will be fantastic!!
http://www.modmyifone.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=1670

sounds real neat!