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MacRumors
Dec 31, 2007, 03:51 PM
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We've received two purported transcripts for the Macworld 2008 Keynote. For some reason, fake transcripts appear to be a popular thing to submit to rumor sites. We publish these for discussion and interest and feel that they do not represent legitimate transcripts about what to expect at Macworld Expo 2008.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/12/26/macworld-san-francisco-2008-keynote-transcripts/)



arn
Dec 31, 2007, 03:52 PM
Transcript #1:

Steve enters from backstage and welcomes the audience to MacWorld 2008. He says that there are big plans for the day, but first he wants to provide numbers. His focus topics are the adoption rates for iPhone and Leopard, as well as quick notes on iTunes, iPod, and Mac sales.

Steve then apologizes, saying that there is nothing as big as the iPhone this year, but he thinks a lot of smaller “revolutionary” changes are happening that will hopefully make this year exciting as well.

Mac Nano
Steve mentions the iPod Nano, calling it the best-selling music device in history. He then reminds us that the “Nano” used to be “Mini” and brings up the existence of the Mac Mini. Steve then unveils the “Mac Nano,” a redesigned Mac Mini that is approximately half the height of its predecessor and in an anodized aluminum shell to match recent design changes in the Apple lineup.

The Mac Nano will come in two flavors, 2.0 GHz and 2.2 GHz (using current Santa Rosa chips), each of which comes standard with a 32 GB solid-state drive. Build-to-order options will include a 64 GB solid-state drive, as well as the option to instead use a conventional hard drive, with sizes up to 160 GB, all 5400 rpm.

On sale: TODAY. Shipping: FEBRUARY.

Mac Pro
Steve then says that “sometimes bigger is better,” and brings up the Mac Pro, lauding it as the “best workstation on the market.” Steve then introduces the new Penryn chipset, praising Intel for its innovation. He then introduces a redesigned Mac Pro. (There is no “final image” present in this draft Keynote). Steve brags that the Mac Pro was the first mainstream computer to feature eight cores, and says its time to bring that into everyone’s hands.

The new Mac Pro comes with dual 2.8 GHz Penryn Xeons standard, with build-to-order options for 3.0 GHz and 3.2 GHz. Standard RAM is bumped to 2 GB, standard hard drive to 320 GB. Standard graphics card is now 512 MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT, with other graphics cards build-to-order.

Steve then reveals a final new feature: the Mac Pro is the first Mac to feature a high-definition optical drive, a Blu-ray drive for $400, BTO.

On sale: TODAY. Shipping: TODAY.

MacBook Pro
“Also an update for our mobile professionals.” Steve introduces the “new” MacBook Pro, built off of the mobile version of the “same Penryn chipset used in the Mac Pro.”

Clockspeeds upped to 2.4 GHz/2.6 GHz. 17” MacBook Pro gets LED backlighting. 15” MacBook Pro gets a resolution upgrade option BTO similar to the 17”. Still using the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT, but video RAM upgraded to 256 MB/512 MB.

New option: black anodized aluminum, like the iPod Classic, due to the high demand of the “BlackBook.”

ON SALE: TODAY. Shipping: FEBRUARY.

New Accessories
Steve then lines up the three Mac desktops and points to their now common aluminum shells, then points out the white plastic Mighty Mouse. Quickly introduces the new aluminum Mighty Mouse, which is slightly slimmer than its predecessor and gets an extra 10% battery life.
On sale: TODAY. Shipping: TODAY.

Updated Cinema Displays
Steve calls the Apple monitors the “most gorgeous displays on the market,” but then lines up the iMac, MacBook, and MacBook Pro. Points to the lack of an iSight camera on the Cinema Display. All Cinema Displays now include a 2 MP iSight camera. Resolutions and other specs stay the same, but backlighting changed over to LED.

New prices:
20”: $399.
23”: $599.
30”: $1,249.
On sale: TODAY. Shipping: TODAY.

Steve then pretends to wrap up the speech, then does his usual...
One More Thing...
Grid illustration using keynote. Across the top: “Compact,” “Consumer,” “Professional.” Across the bottom: “Portable,” “Desktop.” Steve then illustrates how their current five offerings (including the “Mac Nano”) fill in five of the six spots. Steve points out the “missing hole” and brings up the 12” PowerBook G4.

Said that the 12” MacBook Pro was sort of like the PowerBook G5--everyone wanted it, but it was never meant to happen. Instead, Apple is entering the market with the “MacBook Nano,” the smallest and lightest Mac laptop ever produced.

This new ultra-portable will come with a 13” LED-backlit screen with 1280x800 resolution. It will come in two flavors, using 1.6 GHz and 1.8 GHz low-voltage Core 2 Duos each. The lower-end will feature a 32 GB SSD, the higher- a 64 GB. Neither will use optical drives and will rely on integrated graphics.

Steve will also reveal that they will be capable of getting up to 10 hours battery life. The two models will retail for $1,499 and $1,999, respectively.
On sale: TODAY. Shipping: TODAY.

The keynote address concludes.

arn
Dec 31, 2007, 03:52 PM
Transcript #2


iPhone

iPhone SDK released today. Developers will be able to sell their signed applications via iTunes (from March '08)
New iPhone software released today - adds Multimedia Messaging, video recording with camera, eBook reader & other features.
New iPhone games released today - available for purchase via iTMS.
3G iPhone announced (looks almost identical to existing iPhone).
iPhone announcements for new countries (some/all may not be announced - pending network negotiations)


Tunes & iPod

iTunes 8 supports Movie Rentals and eBook sales. Released today.
Software update for iPod Classic & Touch to support eBooks.


Mac Pro

Blu-Ray option to be rolled out to all Macs within 18 months, starting with Mac Pro - available now.
Processor and graphics updates also to Mac Pros, but no other changes.


Cinema Display

Slightly re-designed cinema displays with new range of screen sizes. All support at least 1080HD.


Mac Mini & Apple TV

New product that converges the Mac Mini & Apple TV:
- Thinner & wider that Mac Mini, thicker than Apple TV. Designed to be horizontally or vertically mounted.
- Blu-Ray and hard drive options.
- Graphics capabilities in-line with the iMac.
- Can boot into Front Row 3.0 (not final name - see below) or full OS X Leopard.
- Innovative controller (sold separately).
- Elgato to release a range of specially styled add-ons.


Front Row 3.0 (not final name)

- All macs will optionally be able to boot into Front Row 3.0.
- Supports iTMS.
- Elgato hardware integration, giving (DRM-limited) PVR functionality.
- Front-row versions of iCal, Mail & Safari.
- New eBook application.
- SDK so 3rd parties can make their applications launch directly from Front Row.
- Can be controlled by Apple Remote, new controller, iPhone or iPod Touch.


New ultra-portable/tablet "MacTouch"

- Neither a MacBook nor a MacBook Pro. Totally new product.
- Two 9" multitouch-sensitve widescreens, both 1280 x 854.
- Innovative, minimalist, two-way folding/sliding, dual-screen, multi-position design with magnetic clasps. Inspired by the paperback book, but thinner, more flexible and surprisingly tough.
- No optical drive. No mechanical hard drive.
- Will run most existing OS X apps when in 2-screen mode (the 2nd screen becomes the keyboard and touch-pad).
- iPhone-like "Springboard" when in single-screen mode.
- New possibilities for future OS X Apps - demonstrated by a gesture-driven version of iPhoto.
- Bluetooth, 802.11b/g, USB2.0, optical/analogue audio in/out, built in speakers & microphone.

Daveway
Dec 31, 2007, 03:54 PM
Link is dead.
Hasn't this traditionally been fans writing about what they hope to see? It's written in the same style last year's was, and it was off by a large margin.

Mac nano sounds a lot like AppleTV and that SSHD costs as much as an entire mac mini right now.

minik
Dec 31, 2007, 04:04 PM
I still believe the olid-state drive technology is not mature enough to go mainstream.

tk421
Dec 31, 2007, 04:05 PM
Steve then apologizes, saying that there is nothing as big as the iPhone this year, but he thinks a lot of smaller “revolutionary” changes are happening that will hopefully make this year exciting as well.

Awesome way to start a keynote! Make sure and tell everyone that nothing is going to be as good as in the past! :rolleyes:

These are pretty weak looking.

Wild-Bill
Dec 31, 2007, 04:06 PM
The Mac Pro needs to use the 1600FSB chips, and the video card options had better be worthwhile, not old tech.

timestamp
Dec 31, 2007, 04:12 PM
The Mac Pro needs to use the 1600FSB chips, and the video card options had better be worthwhile, not old tech.

If those speeds are correct those would be 1600FSB.

The major problem for me is the ACDs. I doubt they could do LED backlighting at those prices. Furthermore, There are much better panels available now, including a 24" H-IPS panel. At this point 23" panels are hard to find. I don't see Apple sticking with that size.

guzhogi
Dec 31, 2007, 04:13 PM
The first transcript seems plausible, 2nd one seems like total BS. Sounds really cool, but very doubtful. But I'll wait & see.

bc008
Dec 31, 2007, 04:23 PM
i dunno, "mac nano" sounds so weird

matthewHUB
Dec 31, 2007, 04:32 PM
Mac mini will be discontinued as it sounds like the new half-sized big mac from McDonalds

Brianstorm91
Dec 31, 2007, 04:36 PM
That one'll do me since it has the MBP in it!

aswitcher
Dec 31, 2007, 04:37 PM
I dont recall a transcript ever being valid...so fan boy dreaming at best. Shame, some nice ideas here.

kornyboy
Dec 31, 2007, 04:40 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/3B48b Safari/419.3)

MacWorld is not far away. I'm just waiting patiently waiting at this point.

JML42691
Dec 31, 2007, 04:42 PM
The first one sounds like the most likely (product wise), but there is just something about it to me that just seems completely wrong. The second one sounds like what my dog just left in my backyard, but both are probably a load of BS that a fanboy wrote to screw with our minds, I guess time will tell.

ArtOfWarfare
Dec 31, 2007, 04:56 PM
That idea about being able to boot into either full Mac OS X or Front Row in the second one sounds like a load of crap. I mean, why? First off... how many people turn off their computer? And second off, I see no issue with just launching the full Mac OS X and then running Front Row at start up.

And the second one's tablet sounds like it's just an enlarged copy of the Nintendo DS.

phungy
Dec 31, 2007, 04:58 PM
Only ~2 weeks left!

JML42691
Dec 31, 2007, 05:04 PM
That idea about being able to boot into either full Mac OS X or Front Row in the second one sounds like a load of crap. I mean, why? First off... how many people turn off their computer? And second off, I see no issue with just launching the full Mac OS X and then running Front Row at start up.

And the second one's tablet sounds like it's just an enlarged copy of the Nintendo DS.
That is what I was thinking, and that tablet thing would probably be the biggest fingerprint magnet that Apple has every made.

evilyankeefan
Dec 31, 2007, 05:18 PM
This obviously can't be true. There's no mention of The Beatles coming to iTunes. :)

These do give a whole new meaning to "everything but the kitchen sink".

Nermal
Dec 31, 2007, 05:25 PM
I don't believe that Apple would provide a BR option but no HD DVD option, due to past comments (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/apr/17hd.html):

"Apple is committed to both emerging high definition DVD standards—Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD."

Wayfarer
Dec 31, 2007, 05:48 PM
Let's not set up ourselves for disappointment.

iPhil
Dec 31, 2007, 06:01 PM
Let's not set up ourselves for disappointment.



That's why my standards around this time of the year are near rock-bottom for MWSF..



The numbers part that Jobs will announce is true .. Since it's the almost the first thing he discusses @ MWSF every year.

barijazz
Dec 31, 2007, 06:06 PM
I bought my macbook pro just recently and I can return it up until jan 8. Should I take it back and wait to see what happens at macworld.

I don't believe that Apple would provide a BR option but no HD DVD option, due to past comments (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/apr/17hd.html):

"Apple is committed to both emerging high definition DVD standards—Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD."


If you knew anything about either formats you would know that apple is on the blu ray board. So I don't think they would be supporting HD DVDs. Unless this is some new marketing scam I haven't heard of yet.

GeekLawyer
Dec 31, 2007, 06:51 PM
Wow. That's an overwhelming load of BS. Some things, maybe. But by and large -- wow.

Darkroom
Dec 31, 2007, 06:52 PM
humm... the first one sounds nice... but i can't remember a time when apple released that many updates during a single keynote... (mac mini, mac pro, macbook pro, displays, and new ultra portable)... defo written by a fanboy...

FJ218700
Dec 31, 2007, 07:01 PM
30 inch LED-backlit ACD for < $ 1,300 ?, right.

Nermal
Dec 31, 2007, 07:04 PM
If you knew anything about either formats you would know that apple is on the blu ray board. So I don't think they would be supporting HD DVDs. Unless this is some new marketing scam I haven't heard of yet.

I'm at a loss for words as to how to reply to this. It clearly states on the linked page that Apple is supporting both formats, and even mentions the BR board membership. In addition, also as mentioned on that page, DVD Studio Pro can author HD DVDs. I don't know why you think that Apple would never support HD DVD when its website says the opposite. :confused:

iTeen
Dec 31, 2007, 07:08 PM
sounds halfway true...we shall see in 15 days though.:D

FF_productions
Dec 31, 2007, 07:23 PM
Sounds a bit too good to be true, but its exciting to hear the rumors.

I'm interested in that portable little Mac contraption.

Peace
Dec 31, 2007, 07:36 PM
The part about Elgato integrating with Front Row sounds very plausible.

BlakTornado
Dec 31, 2007, 07:44 PM
"New option: black anodized aluminum, like the iPod Classic, due to the high demand of the “BlackBook.”"

Doubt it.

"New Accessories
Steve then lines up the three Mac desktops and points to their now common aluminum shells, then points out the white plastic Mighty Mouse. Quickly introduces the new aluminum Mighty Mouse, which is slightly slimmer than its predecessor and gets an extra 10% battery life.
On sale: TODAY. Shipping: TODAY."

What about a fix for the Scroll ball?...

"Steve then pretends to wrap up the speech, then does his usual...
One More Thing..."

I doubt the real Keynote transcript says "then does his usual..."


Not very convincing... =\

skinnylegs
Dec 31, 2007, 07:45 PM
Eh....I don't really care if this is fake. It was a great read and fun to dream of. Nice work!

Corran Horn
Dec 31, 2007, 07:55 PM
I'm at a loss for words as to how to reply to this. It clearly states on the linked page that Apple is supporting both formats, and even mentions the BR board membership. In addition, also as mentioned on that page, DVD Studio Pro can author HD DVDs. I don't know why you think that Apple would never support HD DVD when its website says the opposite. :confused:

Sure it can author HD-DVD's... but I've haven't found an HD-DVD burner yet. At college we've just decided to wait until Apple announces what format they are supporting (with the superdrive burners) before we throw our budget at either format. :)

Mydel
Dec 31, 2007, 08:07 PM
I dont need aluminum mouse. Make the scroll ball to work more than 6 months and I'll be happy. Also no way 30inch ACD will cost 1300$. Thats BS. Me likes elegato and front row 3.0 idea. Macs definitely lack in software to serve as HEC.

timestamp
Dec 31, 2007, 08:40 PM
I dont need aluminum mouse. Make the scroll ball to work more than 6 months and I'll be happy. Also no way 30inch ACD will cost 1300$. Thats BS. Me likes elegato and front row 3.0 idea. Macs definitely lack in software to serve as HEC.

There is no way a 30" ACD that is LED backlit will be priced at $1300. A standard ACD with a panel upgrade without LED could be priced at $1300.

iDAG
Dec 31, 2007, 09:23 PM
I know that they are both wrong but I would really like it if the first transcript came true! It also seems like the most "true" thing I've read about what will happen at MacWorld. :cool:

Digital Skunk
Dec 31, 2007, 09:24 PM
************

Why would anyone think this is official or in any way related to Apple and MacWorld.

TheScavenger
Dec 31, 2007, 09:34 PM
It is too good to be true. Too many big announcements.

Josh

iDAG
Dec 31, 2007, 09:37 PM
************

Why would anyone think this is official or in any way related to Apple and MacWorld.

No one does, they are both just wish lists that go into more detail. I think someone should make a thread that people can come up with their own transcripts for MacWorld!

mrkramer
Dec 31, 2007, 09:59 PM
If you knew anything about either formats you would know that apple is on the blu ray board. So I don't think they would be supporting HD DVDs. Unless this is some new marketing scam I haven't heard of yet.

Apple is on the blu-ray board, but they are also part of the DVD forum, who created HD-DVD, so they do support both, and I doubt that there will be either type in a Mac until one format dies or combo burners become available.

WildPalms
Dec 31, 2007, 10:02 PM
The part about Elgato integrating with Front Row sounds very plausible.

I would like to see it but I dont believe it ever will. Doesnt Steve hate TV?

TheScavenger
Dec 31, 2007, 10:32 PM
I think someone should make a thread that people can come up with their own transcripts for MacWorld!

I like his idea:

Steve Jobs drives up to my house in a U-Haul truck full of Apple products on January 15th. He gets out of the truck and says, "Take whatever you want, Josh.".

Thats the end of MacWorld '08

SheriffParker
Dec 31, 2007, 10:50 PM
Funny how the first one puts a solid state drive into the new mac nano. Seems pretty retarded to me.... doesn't need battery life, doesn't need to be smaller, lighter, etc, since its not going anywhere.... needs to be as cheap as possible.... none of which point to a solid state drive. I kind of stopped reading after that. Definitely good for a laugh though. :)

Tom B.
Dec 31, 2007, 10:54 PM
I think the first one seems fairly feasible, apart from one thing - why would the Mac nano (aka the new Mac mini) have SSDs? I thought the Mac mini was meant to be a cheap option to entice switchers. :confused:


************

Why would anyone think this is official or in any way related to Apple and MacWorld.

Yeah! It's almost as stupid a rumour as that leaked aluminum keyboard! Oh wait...
Please don't kill me. I'm sorry.

Digital Skunk
Dec 31, 2007, 11:02 PM
Yeah! It's almost as stupid a rumour as that leaked aluminum keyboard! Oh wait...
Please don't kill me. I'm sorry.

Right... and the aluminum keyboard was definitely needed and is widely accpeted in the pro world. It really just goes to show that consumers would buy any POS that Jobs hands them. (iphone) :)

Like the rumored $2000 Mac Nano with SSD and even smaller than laptop components, when users want a mini tower that is more like the Mac Pro.

Sometimes people just need to think about the rumors they read.

Don't worry Tommy, touche

ThinkGeek
Dec 31, 2007, 11:32 PM
I think that the first transcript is probably the most plausible thing to happen... however... the MacinTouch DS idea... ummm... add a stylus to that and thats a Tablet Mac. I would definately buy that product.!

blastfamy
Jan 1, 2008, 01:16 AM
I bought my macbook pro just recently and I can return it up until jan 8. Should I take it back and wait to see what happens at macworld.

I would. If you can go w/o a machine for a few days, just return it and see what happens. You never know what you would essentially cheat yourself out of (usually at the same price-point, too :) )

Best of luck.

barijazz
Jan 1, 2008, 01:27 AM
Well I typed up a big long story about why apple chose blu ray over HD dvd because blu ray was superior getting 25gb per layer compared to 15gb per layer HD dvd gets. I think you got 720p, 1080i, 1080p confused with HD dvds. long story short I hit the backspace key.:mad:

macflurry
Jan 1, 2008, 02:11 AM
I like the idea of front row being able to boot up on macs, good for those long stays in the airport. Hope that happens for real.

thegman1234
Jan 1, 2008, 05:07 AM
That idea about being able to boot into either full Mac OS X or Front Row in the second one sounds like a load of crap. I mean, why? First off... how many people turn off their computer? And second off, I see no issue with just launching the full Mac OS X and then running Front Row at start up.

And the second one's tablet sounds like it's just an enlarged copy of the Nintendo DS.

I assume booting into Front Row would be something like At Ease.

doncrawford7794
Jan 1, 2008, 08:24 AM
That's a bunch of crap! Blu-Ray won't be on all models that soon, there is no way it will come to the iMac within 18 months. Every iMac except for one was on the market for almost two years before its successor was released. There's know way apple will take the risk of releasing a new iMac that soon after the aluminum was released, not after the iphone price drop.

zedsdead
Jan 1, 2008, 09:51 AM
If you knew anything about either formats you would know that apple is on the blu ray board. So I don't think they would be supporting HD DVDs. Unless this is some new marketing scam I haven't heard of yet.

Apple already supports HD DVD in DVD Studio Pro 4...they are committed to both due to the inclusion of H.264.

Warner is on the Blu-Ray board but also release HD DVD's (they support both)...as does Apple. And they can be burned onto SD-DVD's currently since the HD DVD spec allows for Red Laser SD DVD's to be played back as HD DVD's (something Blu-Ray does not do).

As for the rumors, they are clearly off. The first one has no mention at all of the iPhone, which seems odd considering the SDK is due and the 1.1.3 leak came out, as well as all of the rumors about the Apple TV and movie rentals too.

The second one provides I think every recent rumor to be true, never at any of these events has that happened.

These things are always fun to read though.

joelmejiaganan
Jan 1, 2008, 12:12 PM
All the transcripts are fake.

All the real transcripts are always kept well safe inside Steve's underwear until each presentation.

The tablet should be cheaper than MBP because the lack of horsepower, DVD drive, HDD space and graphics.

The mac pro should be refreshed. So the Macbooks.

The Apple TV-Mini is a good idea. Why do you want to have a computer in a room to send data to the TV while you can get the computer ON the TV. No Blu ray-HD-DVD (for now). Hope for a new front row. Hope for an iphone/itouch as a remote control functionality.

No new iphone, just the rumored firmware upgrade.


I would like that Mac Nano to have:

1-Screen, not touchable since nobody likes to have a dirty screen.

2-Physical keyboard, since the majority of people is used to them.

3-Wi-fi and bluetooth, of course!!!

4-The whole area below the keyboard will be multitouch.

5-No CD/DVD drive, but comes with an external USB2.0 one.

6-Comes with a new remote control that will rock with the new front row 3.0.

7-As thin as a pencil !!!

Something like it.

brewcitywi
Jan 1, 2008, 12:28 PM
It has been sealed on Funk & Wagners porch since last Tuesday:


Steve enters from backstage and welcomes the audience to MacWorld 2008. He says that there is a lot of ground to cover, so let's get started.

iPhone

He tells audience that the numbers are amazing, yet not good enough. He invites Oprah onto the stage. Applause! She says that she has personally purchased 1 million iPhones, and will be giving them out to her studio audiences throughout 2008!

New Features:

SDK not released yet

The iPhone's most exciting new feature is TASER capability!

It comes in 3 new configurations:

1 volt (attention-getter at parties)
5 volts (nice to meet you)
50 volts (dude, get away from me)


Newton

Yes, the Newton is back, EXACTLY how it looked originally, but at only 1/2 the size. Robin Williams announces the product with Steve Jobs...we call it the:

NANEW



Starbucks update:

Apple will buy into 1/10 of the real estate of every Starbucks, where the coffee shop will sell Apple Products.

It will also feature a Genius Barrista!

There is also a new technology feature, where users can battery-charge their iPods at Starbucks, simply by drinking caffienated products.


MacPro Update:

Complete re-design.

The new MacPro features backpack straps on one side, and an astronaut helmet. Once strapping the MacPro onto one's back and putting the fully functioning NASA helmet on (and with a functioning network card for wireless capability), a User can live for 1 full year without food or water.

They affectionately call it the iBubble.

Michael Jackson comes onto stage, saying that he's been wearing it for the past 3 months, and it is working "very well."


One More Thing:

John Mayer comes onto stage with Steve. They announce the iChat Dating service. John shows how he met Jennifer Love Hewitt, Jessica Simpson, and Rikki Lake (to mention a "few"), by using the new service.

They call it: iLove

Keynote ends with John Mayer singing a duet with Hanna Montana.


I think that my recovered keynote has just as much potential!!! Don't you???

lpshean
Jan 1, 2008, 12:46 PM
brewcitywi,

You're fired.

That is all.

barijazz
Jan 1, 2008, 12:59 PM
What if apple adds a wireless cd/dvd reader that you can fit into a laptop bag. Then the ultra portable would be cool and more accessible to more needs.

barijazz
Jan 1, 2008, 01:05 PM
It has been sealed on Funk & Wagners porch since last Tuesday:
[snip]
I think that my recovered keynote has just as much potential!!! Don't you???

That would be awesome. I would buy the new mac pro.

dfoster1992
Jan 1, 2008, 01:36 PM
Keynote 08
:apple:

1st thing - Computer refreshes
Mac Pro - BluRay, HD DVD option
MacBook thinner, bigger hard drives, aluminum (to match the rest of its computer line)
New MacBook Pro Colors
2nd - Redesigns/Updates
Mac Mini - total revamp, thinner, vertically stood, aluminum, wireless keyboard + mouse included, $500 , $600
New Cinema Displays
Apple TV - Full HD conversion, HD content on iTunes, new software features, price drop
3rd - New Products
Ultra Portable Macbook Mini (Subnotebook) - priced below the macbook line
One More Thing......
iPhone 3G, 32gb (flash) coming this summer, along with 16gb model with 2.5G to replace 8gb
SDK relesed today - on iTunes 8, with some apps (like voice notes and games) that apple made
SDK is restrictive but gets the job done
iPhone Update (software)


let me know what ya'll think!

Cousin Dirk
Jan 1, 2008, 01:42 PM
MacBook Pro... Clockspeeds upped to 2.4 GHz/2.6 GHz

This is where it kinda falls down. MacBook Pros have been available at those speeds since November.

Other than that, these are nice dreams, and some aspects of them may very well be true, but not all of them.

All I hope is that the 15" MacBook Pro gets a decent update at the same price-point before I can afford one :rolleyes:

dfoster1992
Jan 1, 2008, 04:14 PM
Why would someone want to disconnect their computer hook it up to their tv just to watch iTunes. How would streaming work??

boot up to Front Row??

dumbest idea ever!!!

:apple:

does any one else agree?
if apple thought that was smart then they wold have already done it.
what the need to do to apple tv is

1. make it more affordable
2. make it have hd content (i.e. movies and tv shows)
3. more useful software features (iTunes store, Rentals, plug any ipod in and play, buy movie tickets on apple tv)
4. better remote
5. dvd player (up conversion)

Digital Skunk
Jan 1, 2008, 04:27 PM
Keynote 08
:apple:

1st thing - Computer refreshes
Mac Pro - BluRay, HD DVD option
MacBook thinner, bigger hard drives, aluminum (to match the rest of its computer line)
New MacBook Pro Colors
2nd - Redesigns/Updates
Mac Mini - total revamp, thinner, vertically stood, aluminum, wireless keyboard + mouse included, $500 , $600
New Cinema Displays
Apple TV - Full HD conversion, HD content on iTunes, new software features, price drop
3rd - New Products
Ultra Portable Macbook Mini (Subnotebook) - priced below the macbook line
One More Thing......
iPhone 3G, 32gb (flash) coming this summer, along with 16gb model with 2.5G to replace 8gb
SDK relesed today - on iTunes 8, with some apps (like voice notes and games) that apple made
SDK is restrictive but gets the job done
iPhone Update (software)


let me know what ya'll think!

I think it's great... I am just hoping that Apple does something more than just give us toys. I hope that the MacPro, MacBook Pro and Cinema Displays get a good redesign that allows them to be Pro machines. And I hope that the iPhone gets a bigger brother that is not tied to AT&T with real smart phone features and EVDO/WiMax.

Cousin Dirk
Jan 1, 2008, 04:48 PM
Also, I note that Intel are due to release the next generation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2#Penryn) of the Core 2 Duo on January 6th... in time for an improved MacBook Pro, maybe?

teleromeo
Jan 1, 2008, 04:56 PM
30”: $1,249

I want that new macpro with two such screens ...

mrkramer
Jan 1, 2008, 05:16 PM
That's a bunch of crap! Blu-Ray won't be on all models that soon, there is no way it will come to the iMac within 18 months. Every iMac except for one was on the market for almost two years before its successor was released. There's know way apple will take the risk of releasing a new iMac that soon after the aluminum was released, not after the iphone price drop.

What are you talking about? the iMac gets updated on average every 185 days. if you don't beleive me you can look at the buyers guide (http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#iMac) to see when the last few updates were.

maclovin
Jan 1, 2008, 06:23 PM
Macbook Pro

on sale: TODAY shipping: TODAY

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE APPLE!!!!

Brianstorm91
Jan 1, 2008, 06:25 PM
New MBP!
I feel that if I rant about it enough, it might happen :)
Did anybody else buy an advent calendar for MacWorld or was that just me?..

mikeishi
Jan 1, 2008, 06:34 PM
I doubt a redesigned Mac Pro would come out. The design is still very, very relevant. Pro users don't care how their desktops look... Especially if they already look like the current Mac Pro does. The Mac Pro is functional to the max. A redesign could definitely hurt Apple's pro sales. (What would they do? Add glass accents to it? Make it fragile?)

evilyankeefan
Jan 1, 2008, 07:05 PM
New MBP!
I feel that if I rant about it enough, it might happen :)
Did anybody else buy an advent calendar for MacWorld or was that just me?..

I'll join the cause!! Bring on the new MBP!

Yuppi
Jan 1, 2008, 07:09 PM
I hope for one thing. Hardware accelerated h264 1080p playback. Yes, even the macbook pro is not able to play some of those videos as there is no multi-core ready video player available that could split the video decoding.

Plus the potential of AVIVO or PureVideo is still unused. It made me very sad to realize this :(
So let's hope that there will be some HD strategy updates as Vista has full h264 built-in with directX 10.
Oh and please at least announce a date for the 3G iphone. I really need it in sweden :)

DaBrain
Jan 1, 2008, 08:08 PM
It has been sealed on Funk & Wagners porch since last Tuesday:


Steve enters from backstage and welcomes the audience to MacWorld 2008. He says that there is a lot of ground to cover, so let's get started.



New Features:

SDK not released yet

The iPhone's most exciting new feature is TASER capability!

It comes in 3 new configurations:

1 volt (attention-getter at parties)
5 volts (nice to meet you)
50 volts (dude, get away from me)

I think that my recovered keynote has just as much potential!!! Don't you???

You forgot the new "Don't Tase Me Bro Apple Logo!!!" :D

2A Batterie
Jan 1, 2008, 08:45 PM
You forgot the new "Don't Tase Me Bro Apple Logo!!!" :D

LOL!!!! Although I'm sure in a few months that will be as funny as the "WAAAZZZZZUUUUPPP Apple logo". Still, kudos to you!

brewcitywi
Jan 1, 2008, 09:27 PM
i KNEW i was close to a joke there, but just missed it!!!

thank you for helping me out!

LanPhantom
Jan 1, 2008, 10:05 PM
Keep dreaming people, maybe if we talk about enough stuff and speculate on as many items we can, we'll hit correct on one or two things. Then the guy who "predicted" that will be king for a day and we'll all start looking at the next thing. I just am so satsified with my new MBP 15inch that anything coming from Apple is only going to help me convince more people to consider MACs for their next PC purchase. I've already personally converted 5 people over and as Apple keeps doing better, staying out of the controversy lime light and releasing great products, I think my job will only get easier.

Just like everyone else, I'm super-double-extra excited for this years MacWorld. I certanly don't think Steve will top the hype and excitement of the iPhone confermation unless he releases a 12inch MAC Tablet with a MultiTouch iPhone like interface. I will ship with a wireless keyboard and mouse and have 100 gig of static memory.

Well, there's my two cents.

LanPhantom

Digital Skunk
Jan 1, 2008, 11:22 PM
I doubt a redesigned Mac Pro would come out. The design is still very, very relevant. Pro users don't care how their desktops look... Especially if they already look like the current Mac Pro does. The Mac Pro is functional to the max. A redesign could definitely hurt Apple's pro sales. (What would they do? Add glass accents to it? Make it fragile?)

I think the redesign goes more with adding in more functionality. The HP Blackbird has space for 5 drives and it has two double wide PCI slots. Those are just some of the things that a redesign could include.

With the MacBook Pro, which needs a serious redesign, a change in the case could open up the possibility of having more FW400 ports, USB or eSATA ports, and maybe even a second hard drive... or better cooling for the 2.6GHz chips.

Wild-Bill
Jan 1, 2008, 11:41 PM
I doubt a redesigned Mac Pro would come out. The design is still very, very relevant. Pro users don't care how their desktops look... Especially if they already look like the current Mac Pro does. The Mac Pro is functional to the max. A redesign could definitely hurt Apple's pro sales. (What would they do? Add glass accents to it? Make it fragile?)

No...... but they could think about maybe putting CURRENT HARDWARE in it.

The ATI x1900xt hits TWO YEARS OLD this week. Worth $400?? I don't think so. Penryn? nVidia 8800GT? 1600 FSB? 2 gigs standard? Realistic pricing?

Apple should take that $15 billion in spending cash and use it for 1) quality conrol and 2) a Mac Pro update.........immediately.

WildPalms
Jan 1, 2008, 11:53 PM
No...... but they could think about maybe putting CURRENT HARDWARE in it.

The ATI x1900xt hits TWO YEARS OLD this week. Worth $400?? I don't think so. Penryn? nVidia 8800GT? 1600 FSB? 2 gigs standard? Realistic pricing?

Apple should take that $15 billion in spending cash and use it for 1) quality conrol and 2) a Mac Pro update.........immediately.

Why do we need the 8800GT? It's not a gaming machine and the 1900XT is MORE than capable.

Why do we need the Penryn which is only just released? I'd rather have a proven chip in my workstation thanks and without the premium of showroom pricing.

Explain the need for a high speed FSB. With serious comments please.

2 GB standard...ok, sounds great. What?

Realistic pricing - check. Got that already.

This reeks of gamer-esque whining... I really hope it isnt.

joeshell383
Jan 2, 2008, 05:14 AM
"boot up to Front Row??

dumbest idea ever!!!

:apple:

does any one else agree?"


No. Ever heard of HP QuickPlay or Dell MediaDirect?

netdog
Jan 2, 2008, 05:29 AM
Why do we need the 8800GT? It's not a gaming machine and the 1900XT is MORE than capable.

At these prices, we deserve a great video card. 3-D rendering could even become part of the OS in the next few years. Who knows? A machine at this level should be equipped to handle whatever can be thrown at it, now and in the not to distant future.

Why do we need the Penryn which is only just released? I'd rather have a proven chip in my workstation thanks and without the premium of showroom pricing.

8 cores. Faster FSB. Lower power consumption. Cooler-running.

Explain the need for a high speed FSB. With serious comments please.

If I could choose a 4-core with better memory handling or an 8-core with the current bus system, I'd choose the 4. Getting things in and out of RAM is the biggest bottleneck at the moment, whereas support for multi-cores is still pretty poor, crippling the power available. Still, when using something that does support multiple cores, like video rendering, the current 8-core performance in rendering is hampered first and foremost by RAM access. Nehalem should be a big deal in addressing that when it comes to market late this year.

2 GB standard...ok, sounds great. What?

1GB is 250MB per core. Frankly, putting 512MB DIMMs in two slots is a waste of space. My wish is that these things ship with 4GB but that is unlikely to happen.

Realistic pricing - check. Got that already.

Had that in August 2006. Don't have it now.

This reeks of gamer-esque whining... I really hope it isnt.

I am not a gamer.

johnnyjibbs
Jan 2, 2008, 07:17 AM
The first one certainly sounds more plausible than the 2nd. That said, it sounds like a hell of a lot of product releases - realistically we may have one or two new products and a quiet update of another line. I believe the MacBook Nano, or whatever it's called, will come out and fill in the gap in the 12" PB market. It really depends on the price of the thing (which, knowing Apple, will be higher than everyone expects - causing much criticism - even though it will go on to be the best selling Mac).

I feel the new notebook could be one of those revolutionary Apple products that gets people talking - and then copying. It won't just be something to immitate the subnotebooks that have been on the market for years - it will be completely new and fix all the flaws that Steve has been talking about with those - and somehow explain why Apple hasn't done one to date (recently). To some extent, that's why I think there might be some truth in the 2nd transcript in this regard - some sort of touch capability.

When the 12" PB was released, it was hailed as the smallest "fully functional" notebook - i.e. Apple regards a full size keyboard and optical drive as standard for a notebook and did not want to remove them. Obviously, things have moved on since then but the CD/DVD is not as dead as people think - comparisons with the floppy disk are a little unfair. We must neither forget about future lag - most normal people are still using CDs to play their music on an everyday basis and buying DVDs. Digital video distribution is in its infancy, and the Apple TV / iTunes movie service show that its harder to get people to budge from DVDs. Indeed, the strength of DVD is ultimately why I think both HD-DVD and BlueRay will fail for watching videos - the HD picture is not so much better that consumers will shell out on all their DVDs again. (The major reason why people moved from VHS to DVD for video was so that 1) they didn't have to rewind - i.e convenience, and 2) because people didn't buy movies so much back then anyway but now people have more money to blow on luxury goods such as entertainment. The increase in picture and sound quality was a bonus, but not the killer feature that got people buying).

Ultimately though, Apple needs to decide which market the new sub notebook will fall into. If it wants it to be the new 12" PB (which was often bought by semi-pro users who wanted more capability than the iBook but couldn't afford the 15/17" PBs), Apple needs to make sure that it is not too expensive. However, it also needs to tap into the market for professionals in need of an ultra-portable workstation. Pricing too low could canbilise MacBook sales and be a similar disaster for Apple.

Neither transcript mentions much (if any) about software. Normally there is a fair amount of demonstration. I'm not expecting iLife as it has already been released recently, but I would have thought Microsoft would be on hand to demonstrate the new Office 2008, plus perhaps one brand new consumer Apple software product. This would fill the gap and pad out the keynote to its usual length of 1.5 hours or so. Even Steve Jobbs would be hard pushed to make either of those transcripts last more than 30 mins!

Orng
Jan 2, 2008, 09:13 AM
Yeah, I think an aluminum mouse would look pretty cool, but as I discovered with my alu keyboard, it would probably get pretty cold to touch, especially in the room I keep my desk in. My home office is a basement office, so it never really gets warm, and some days the keyboard feels like ice. I'd have to get a little Michael Jackson glove if I had an alumimouse.
Why do we need the 8800GT? It's not a gaming machine and the 1900XT is MORE than capable.
...
Explain the need for a high speed FSB. With serious comments please.
...
This reeks of gamer-esque whining... I really hope it isnt.

I need this stuff, and I am not a gamer. At least not a computer gamer; I have a Playstation for games. As a video editor and animator, I need all the speed and power I can get my hands on, and at the moment the Mac Pro is underpowered and outdated compared to similarly equipped PCs. This means that me and many other video/animation professionals who need an equipment upgrade are faced with the choice of either waiting until Apple decides to upgrade the Mac Pro, or switching the edit suites to a PC-based solution (which is more than adequate, whatever your biases may be). I know from reading these boards that some pros have already been forced to a PC solution. I haven't, yet. Still milking the G4 Dual800 for all it's worth. I'd like it if my rendering could be done while I go for a coffee break, not overnight; Anywhere we can crank up the juice makes my work day more efficient. But I couldn't possibly justify to my company a Mac Pro with the current config. They'll be making purchases in the next month or two, and the direction they go will depend a lot on whether we see a Mac Pro update.

So, call us whiners if you must, but don't call us gamers. We are professional whiners. :)

I just am so satsified with my new MBP 15inch that anything coming from Apple is only going to help me convince more people to consider MACs for their next PC purchase. I've already personally converted 5 people over and as Apple keeps doing better, staying out of the controversy lime light and releasing great products, I think my job will only get easier.

Just like everyone else, I'm super-double-extra excited for this years MacWorld. I certanly don't think Steve will top the hype and excitement of the iPhone confermation unless he releases a 12inch MAC Tablet with a MultiTouch iPhone like interface. I will ship with a wireless keyboard and mouse and have 100 gig of static memory.
LanPhantom

Why do you spell Mac all uppercase? It's not an acronym. Or maybe it means Mega-Awesome Computer, who knows?

Glad you enjoy it and are convincing people, though I've sort of reached the point now where I don't care what kind of computer other people have anymore. I just tell them they should get the computer that best suits their needs, though I try to leave them with the idea that a responsible person would properly research all their options.

I thought that after everyone saw the photo books I made for some people for xmas that it would spark some interest in Macs, but I just ended up with a bunch of requests for more photo books! I'll be arranging pictures of other people's babies till April. I don't mind though, they're all willing to pay extra for my time.

darthraige
Jan 2, 2008, 11:08 AM
Does anybody know if the Apple Store still broadcasts the keynote event live on their TV screen?

teleromeo
Jan 2, 2008, 11:33 AM
the last few keynote's did not go live, I don't think they will change that.

jaknudsen
Jan 2, 2008, 11:45 AM
i dunno, "mac nano" sounds so weird

Not as weird as "mac book".

darthraige
Jan 2, 2008, 11:54 AM
the last few keynote's did not go live, I don't think they will change that.

Boooooooooo. I'll take the day off anyway in hopes for a new MacPro.

twoodcc
Jan 2, 2008, 12:16 PM
yeah, both those sound nice, but i don't wanna get my hopes up....

scotpole
Jan 2, 2008, 12:42 PM
Steve Jobs approaches the stage in blue jeans and a black turtleneck. The screens light up with the I phone and the I pod touch.
"Touch, tap and scroll and now we bring it to you in a 12" cinema screen."

The screens bring up the My-tablet. similar in design to the I Phone with a touch and tap screen. "The My-Tablet is about the size of a paperback but less than a half inch in thickness (what is that about 1.125mm?). The device has no keyboard. An onboard touch keyboard, similar to the iPhone keyboard, is available. However the device works with all Apple bluetooth keyboards and mouses.

On board the My-Tablet has a camera, microphone, stereo speakers, an iPod connection, a mini fire wire plug, and a mini-din plug for connection to stereo and video equipment. What you don't see is 802.11n WiFi and Bluetooth.

The My-tablet has an adjustable lucite stand that it can be placed into, and automatically adjusts to portrait and landscape display when tilted in those directions. The My-Tablet comes with flash memory in configurations of 32 gig, 64 gig, and 128 gig.

The My-Tablet can be charged and synced using a powered USB connection again similar to an iPod.

A combination 250gig, HD DVD-RW or Blue Ray DVD-RW and stand for the My-Tablet is available. The stand also charges the My-Tablet.

The My-Tablet runs a full version of Leopard.

Battery life running videos is an impressive 6 continuous hours."

Applause

I wake up.

Fin.

Digital Skunk
Jan 2, 2008, 01:40 PM
No...... but they could think about maybe putting CURRENT HARDWARE in it.

The ATI x1900xt hits TWO YEARS OLD this week. Worth $400?? I don't think so. Penryn? nVidia 8800GT? 1600 FSB? 2 gigs standard? Realistic pricing?

Apple should take that $15 billion in spending cash and use it for 1) quality conrol and 2) a Mac Pro update.........immediately.

AMEN Brother. It'd be nice to get a Pro Apple system with no bugs or faulty construction. How about a MacBook Pro that doesn't creak when I pick it up?

Why do we need the 8800GT? It's not a gaming machine and the 1900XT is MORE than capable.

Why do we need the Penryn which is only just released? I'd rather have a proven chip in my workstation thanks and without the premium of showroom pricing.

Explain the need for a high speed FSB. With serious comments please.

2 GB standard...ok, sounds great. What?

Realistic pricing - check. Got that already.

This reeks of gamer-esque whining... I really hope it isnt.

You can't be serious can you? I mean... did you even think about the Professional users out there that aren't getting their money's worth? Or did you just think about the gamers and automatically assume that they are whining? Not trying to insult you, but it doesn't seem that you thought this comment through.

pjarvi
Jan 2, 2008, 02:00 PM
$400 is too much for a Blu-ray drive. LG makes a drive that supports both Blu-ray and HD-DVD for $299.

Roy
Jan 2, 2008, 03:08 PM
$400 is too much for a Blu-ray drive. LG makes a drive that supports both Blu-ray and HD-DVD for $299.


Then Apple's "Think Different" strategy could be to use LG's Blu-ray/HD-DVD drive as a BTO for $799.:rolleyes:

Big Dave
Jan 2, 2008, 03:26 PM
I am looking to get the rumored ultra compact notebook when it comes out, but 64gb of disk space is ridiculous. I suppose the "ultra compact" part means you have to sacrafice some things and that it was never meant to be a desktop replacement, but I estimate I would need at least 250gb to be functional.

JML42691
Jan 2, 2008, 03:36 PM
I am looking to get the rumored ultra compact notebook when it comes out, but 64gb of disk space is ridiculous. I suppose the "ultra compact" part means you have to sacrafice some things and that it was never meant to be a desktop replacement, but I estimate I would need at least 250gb to be functional.
You do realize that most likely both of these transcripts are completely fake, right?

Big Dave
Jan 2, 2008, 03:41 PM
You do realize that most likely both of these transcripts are completely fake, right?

I hope they are fake, and I understand that current notebook models don't have 250gb, but in my opinion it would be a mistake to regress in hard drive size.

Digital Skunk
Jan 2, 2008, 04:06 PM
$400 is too much for a Blu-ray drive. LG makes a drive that supports both Blu-ray and HD-DVD for $299.

It only reads.

I hope they are fake, and I understand that current notebook models don't have 250gb, but in my opinion it would be a mistake to regress in hard drive size.

Let me help you out there. The transcripts are fake because the writing is far inferior compared to anything considered professional, and the concept of an ultra portable is to be power efficient, hence using Solid State Drives instead of the usual Hard Disk Drives that you find in current notebooks. SSDs only give you up to 64GB in an affordable package. There are 128GB drives out there but you will pay almost $1200 for it.

hayesk
Jan 2, 2008, 05:02 PM
The part about Elgato integrating with Front Row sounds very plausible.

Not really. Elgato doesn't make their own hardware. They OEM generic TV Tuner hardware. Ever notice the eyeTV Hybrid looks remarkably like the WinTV USB stick? Apple would just get the OEM hardware themselves.

None of this sounds plausible, except iTunes movie rentals, and perhaps the Mac Pro updates.

peejack
Jan 2, 2008, 05:46 PM
I have heard a rumor Steve Jobs will be wearing a back top, blue jeans and white trainers this year, can anyone confirm this?? :o

teleromeo
Jan 2, 2008, 05:59 PM
I have heard a rumor Steve Jobs will be wearing a back top, blue jeans and white trainers this year, can anyone confirm this?? :o

what a terrible leak, this was meant to be topsecret ...

:D

evilyankeefan
Jan 2, 2008, 06:21 PM
I have heard a rumor Steve Jobs will be wearing a back top, blue jeans and white trainers this year, can anyone confirm this?? :o

Does anyone really know if there will be a significant outfit change at MWSF? I really need some new clothes, but I'm not sure if I can wait 13 days. Will this new outfit be in stores the same day or will we have to wait.

Sorry if this has been asked before, but the search seems to be broken.

:rolleyes: Couldn't resist.

dfoster1992
Jan 2, 2008, 06:29 PM
I have heard a rumor Steve Jobs will be wearing a back top, blue jeans and white trainers this year, can anyone confirm this?? :o

I've heard that he was wearing nothing. Apple is doing something new this year O.o

LorenK
Jan 2, 2008, 06:32 PM
After reading all of the posts, consensus seems to be refreshed Mac Pro and a touch screen portable. I vote for a more robust Apple TV. As to the other things, probably a number of updates, but nothing really jumps out, so is the one more thing the touch screen portable? :confused:

megfilmworks
Jan 2, 2008, 07:44 PM
I agree the $400 dollar Blu-Ray drive sounds like its too much. You can get a Playstation 3 with an 80 gig hard drive, a free game and Blu-ray (one of Sony's best) for $499 and $399 with a smaller hard drive.

trashy
Jan 2, 2008, 07:53 PM
Some people need to rethink what 'transcript' means. Schedule of events, ok. But an outline of his presentation, or the transcript itself, would be much more detailed. These two are nothing more than fanboi wishlists.

:cool:

Dmac77
Jan 2, 2008, 08:47 PM
Who really turns of their computers anymore? And I, normally make it to the login window on a cold boot in 5 to 10 seconds. what is the point of being able to boot into frontrow?

pamon
Jan 2, 2008, 08:57 PM
agree... don't know if anyone provides transcripts on keynotes anymore since Apple will post the presentation of the keynote that evening. Even the PR from apple doesn't release it to the media so good luck on that request.

ryannel2003
Jan 2, 2008, 08:58 PM
Wow, what a bunch of fake crap. Especially the Mac Nano... I don't even like the way that sounds. Mac mini sounds so much better... and the only thing I see up there that would be possible is the Mac Pro, MacBook Pro's, and possibly the Ultra-Thin MacBook Pro. Otherwise, I don't see anything else happening.

I would love Front Row 3.0. The greatest feature that could be added is iTunes Store support right through Front Row. Also, having a TV Tuner feature would be pretty awesome as well. However, me think that Apple isn't gonna integrate the two anytime soon :/

ideapower
Jan 2, 2008, 11:11 PM
I agree the $400 dollar Blu-Ray drive sounds like its too much. You can get a Playstation 3 with an 80 gig hard drive, a free game and Blu-ray (one of Sony's best) for $499 and $399 with a smaller hard drive.

a burner. a blu-ray burner. why is everyone having trouble getting this?

ideapower
Jan 2, 2008, 11:16 PM
....the only thing I see up there that would be possible is the Mac Pro....

This update better be amazing to justify the wait. I can't see why they would have put off a simple processor update announcement for SO long if that's all it is... if they were saving it for Macworld, it must be something more significant like a product redesign. It would be nice to start fresh after a very non-Mac-centric 2007 with a focus on the core pro Mac line in 2008 - but a boy can dream, right?

M!K
Jan 2, 2008, 11:57 PM
Ok. Quite honestly... i don't believe in any of this so i'll wait and see. However, dreaming's great and those two transcripts totally made me dream!!!

-iPod Touch to control :apple:TV
-Countries announcement for iPhone (Canada GO!)
-Mac Nano sounds great
-Mac Pro gets a redesigned! And comes standard with 2gb ram, 512mb graphic card
-Apple display at a affordable price!!
-MacTouch from the second transcript... 2 touch-screens and everything... it is such a dream!!!

Can't wait 'till January 15th

nc7r
Jan 3, 2008, 10:03 AM
I bought my macbook pro just recently and I can return it up until jan 8. Should I take it back and wait to see what happens at macworld.

If I were you, and can deal without a computer for a couple of weeks, I would.

Oh and remember to get the free HP printer deal when you buy any new Mac. RRP of 59.95 and they sell in Curry's for about £44.95 so ebay gives you £30 or so off your new mac all in all!

:)

ojwk
Jan 3, 2008, 05:27 PM
All I can say is caveat lector.

HyperX
Jan 3, 2008, 08:04 PM
So fake it burns my eyeballs!

Masquerade
Jan 3, 2008, 09:14 PM
MacPro Update:

Complete re-design.

The new MacPro features backpack straps on one side, and an astronaut helmet. Once strapping the MacPro onto one's back and putting the fully functioning NASA helmet on (and with a functioning network card for wireless capability), a User can live for 1 full year without food or water.

They affectionately call it the iBubble.

Michael Jackson comes onto stage, saying that he's been wearing it for the past 3 months, and it is working "very well."


I think that my recovered keynote has just as much potential!!! Don't you???

omg i peed my pants before the 15th!

LemonMAC
Jan 3, 2008, 09:46 PM
I was waiting for the part in the script where:

Steve, suddenly jumps out of a large BOX containing the new iMac with matte monitor and a team of highly professional staff for APPLE AUSTRALIA!

Guys, I've never in my life been screwed around so badly since dealing with Apple Australia.

I've spent the last three days actually researching and contemplating a windows product. I'm completely clueless with windows because I've never owned a non-Mac before, but after the way I have been treated by Apple Australia I seriously don't know if I can go through with another Mac disappointment.

Sad Mac user :?(

aswitcher
Jan 3, 2008, 09:48 PM
I agree the $400 dollar Blu-Ray drive sounds like its too much. You can get a Playstation 3 with an 80 gig hard drive, a free game and Blu-ray (one of Sony's best) for $499 and $399 with a smaller hard drive.

Yeah, I think we are going to need to see some major desperation by the HD/Bluray camps before the prices drop to level where its only a $100 upgrade to get get a HD/BR rather than a superdrive

peejack
Jan 3, 2008, 10:05 PM
I was waiting for the part in the script where:

Steve, suddenly jumps out of a large BOX containing the new iMAC with matte monitor and a team of highly professional staff for APPLE AUSTRALIA!

Guys, I've never in my life been screwed around so badly since dealing with Apple Australia.

I've spent the last three days actually researching and contemplating a windows product. I'm completely clueless with windows because I've never owned a non-MAC befre, but after the way I have been treated by MAC Australia I seriously don't know if I can go through with another MACdisappointment.

Sad MAC user :?(

Please, its a Mac or a mac, NOT a MAC.

Digital Skunk
Jan 3, 2008, 11:04 PM
Yeah, I think we are going to need to see some major desperation by the HD/Bluray camps before the prices drop to level where its only a $100 upgrade to get get a HD/BR rather than a superdrive

We will, but the main hold up is the lack of a real market for it. Most people don't want to pay that much for Blu-Ray or HD/DVD and the ones that know about the technology are already adopting online distribution methods. BR and HD are great techs, but they are really overrated. No one in the professional field has adopted either format, and the price of the players have been high for some time and may not be cut in half for another year and a half or so.

And Apple has to put HDMI on a Mac before they give us BR. This could happen on the 15th, but I am not holding my breath.

aswitcher
Jan 3, 2008, 11:57 PM
And Apple has to put HDMI on a Mac before they give us BR. This could happen on the 15th, but I am not holding my breath.

I agree HDMI is coming. I imagine Steve has wanted it for a while because its such a neater technology, smaller and it carried audio. Only problem is for larger screens beyond 1080p - not sure how HDMI would handle that. So hopefully we will get both.

jnc
Jan 4, 2008, 12:56 AM
Please, its a Mac or a mac, NOT a MAC.

so sad.

a burner. a blu-ray burner. why is everyone having trouble getting this?

UltraDrive? :D

ojwk
Jan 4, 2008, 07:03 AM
I agree HDMI is coming. I imagine Steve has wanted it for a while because its such a neater technology, smaller and it carried audio. Only problem is for larger screens beyond 1080p - not sure how HDMI would handle that. So hopefully we will get both.

I was under the impression that HDMI carried the exact same signals as DVI-D? I didn't realize it was limited to 1080p.

EDIT: Just saw this on Wikipedia:

Video signal 480i, 480p, 576i, 576p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, 1440p, etc. The standard Type A HDMI connector has 19 pins, with bandwidth to support all SDTV, EDTV and HDTV modes and more. The plug outside dimensions are 13.9 mm wide by 4.45 mm high. Type A is electrically compatible with single-link DVI-D.
A higher resolution version called Type B is defined in HDMI 1.0. Type B has 29 pins (21.2 mm wide), allowing it to carry an expanded video channel for use with very high-resolution future displays, such as WQSXGA (3200x2048). Type B is electrically compatible with dual-link DVI-D, but is not in general use.

aswitcher
Jan 4, 2008, 07:08 AM
I was under the impression that HDMI carried the exact same signals as DVI-D? I didn't realize it was limited to 1080p.

EDIT: Just saw this on Wikipedia:

Actually HDMI 1.3 finally jumps that to 2560x1600 so its entirely feasible it will work fine if they use the latest stuff.

kaiwai
Jan 4, 2008, 09:29 AM
Awesome way to start a keynote! Make sure and tell everyone that nothing is going to be as good as in the past! :rolleyes:

These are pretty weak looking.

True, when I saw that, my first reaction was '********' - Steve Jobs doesn't have a humble bone in his body. We're talking about a guy who could spin the hindenburg disaster into an example of how air ships have the best safety record.

If anything it'll be something pretty basic, Mac Pro updates, MacBook Pro update, updated AppleTV and talking up renting movies and streaming them onto the appletv - maybe even creating a set top box with an ADSL modem inside to download movies direct from iTunes with some sort of telecom/itunes link up. Turn telephone lines into carriers for ondemand television.

olternaut
Jan 4, 2008, 12:44 PM
After reading all of the posts, consensus seems to be refreshed Mac Pro and a touch screen portable. I vote for a more robust Apple TV. As to the other things, probably a number of updates, but nothing really jumps out, so is the one more thing the touch screen portable? :confused:

Probably. Because everyone plus dog is expecting the updated macs and ultra thin macbooks. A touchscreen portable would be sonsidered the "one more thing" surprise. Well, not for us anyway. :D

whoami
Jan 4, 2008, 01:08 PM
this article is the reason i need to stop reading this crap...

mrgreen4242
Jan 4, 2008, 01:49 PM
If they did add eBooks to iTMS, I'd buy them. Just saying, is all.

Sannekita
Jan 4, 2008, 02:21 PM
I don't believe it... but i would like to see that MBP!

Dominator
Jan 4, 2008, 03:20 PM
Steve enters from backstage and welcomes the audience, saying that he has some exciting things today for everyone but first he wants to go over numbers. Focusing on Mac sales and highest growth rate in the industry, before moving into the adoption rates for iPhone and Leopard.

Steve moves to center stage and starts his presentation about 1984, the year that the computing industry changed. The Apple logo on the screen behind him fades to the classic logo and pictures of the original Macintosh transition across the screens.

Steve: In 1984 the computer industry changed, the status quo was no longer acceptable and the future was born...the Macintosh. Today we will once again change the industry...ladies and gentlemen it is with no small amount of pride I present to you...the new Macintosh.

The screens behind him fade to black and rising from the stage in front of Steve appears the new Macintosh. A visual melding of the Mac Mini, Mac Pro, and the new iMac presenting a form factor of approximately 50% of the Mac Pro's height, the Mac Mini's width and length, made of anodized aluminum with a black glass front housing a vertical slot load optical drive, in the center of the black glass a glowing white Apple logo appears and the familiar startup chime sounds.

The new Macintosh will come in two standard configurations, 2.2GHz and 2.4GHz with a standard 2GB of memory and SuperDrive, however featuring a single PCI-E graphics slot and accommodation for two, vertically mounted, hard drives with sizes of up to 1TB each.

Steve announces that the new Macintosh is on sale today and shipping in february...
:apple:

pepechin
Jan 4, 2008, 07:26 PM
Dominator, these thing isn't going to change the world, but it's EXACTLY what I had been waiting for years.

SthrnCmfrtr
Jan 5, 2008, 12:41 AM
inor software/firmware updates across the board, a Mac Pro update, and the ultraportable.
No tablet, no new iPhone, and only incremental updates to some of the Macs.
No Blu-Ray, no new models LED-backlit screens besides the ultraportable.
Displays untouched.
New iSight in a new form factor, but basically like the built-in ones in the iMac and MB/MBPs and missing a lot of functionality and power from the old ones. Not useful for Pros.
Growl introduced in iPhone and Apple TV varieties.
New iPhone SDK, of course, but

That sounds about right to me, but I don't believe there'll be an ultraportable. The rest is basically bad news or no news, so I can dig it. Over the past few years, I've learned to temper my expectations of Apple :/

I wonder what the new Apple TV firmware will bring.

alandail
Jan 5, 2008, 10:00 AM
I'm at a loss for words as to how to reply to this. It clearly states on the linked page that Apple is supporting both formats, and even mentions the BR board membership. In addition, also as mentioned on that page, DVD Studio Pro can author HD DVDs. I don't know why you think that Apple would never support HD DVD when its website says the opposite. :confused:

HD-DVD is dead, the format war is over.

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/01/04/hd-dvd-vs-blu-ray-battle-over-warner-switches-to-blu-ray/

More evidence of Blu Ray winning the format war is amazon's top seller list. 14 of the top 35 DVDs right now are blu ray, including all 4 of the top 4. The best selling HD-DVD is at #36, which is also the only HD-DVD in the top 60 best sellers.

Virgil-TB2
Jan 5, 2008, 08:09 PM
Link is dead.
Hasn't this traditionally been fans writing about what they hope to see? It's written in the same style last year's was, and it was off by a large margin. ...Indeed. :(

I wish MacRumors (and everyone else), would stop referring to these as "transcripts" at all. They simply aren't.

Transcripts are written after the fact; they are literally transcriptions of what was said. If that is what these writings purport to be, then they cannot be anything but speculative, "fantasy" transcripts. Let's all just call them that.

We are talking about fan-fiction here, not facts; not even rumours of fact.

These "transcripts" are often presented in a format that mimics the sort of "cheat sheets" a presenter might need on stage. Without ever saying it outright, we are also expected by the creators to entertain the idea that this might be the very sheet of paper handed to Steve Jobs :eek: as he walks out on stage.

However these "transcripts" cannot be that either. No one would have a cheat sheet that said to "Quickly announce the aluminium mouse,..." or any of the other cheesy asides and stage directions contained in these tomes.

thesdx
Jan 5, 2008, 08:26 PM
That sounds about right to me, but I don't believe there'll be an ultraportable. The rest is basically bad news or no news, so I can dig it. Over the past few years, I've learned to temper my expectations of Apple :/

I wonder what the new Apple TV firmware will bring.

Really? Lately, it seems to be if there are there are this many rumors about one product, it'll come true. In 2007, it happened with the iPhone, iMac, Fat Nano, and the iTouch. I'm thinking that there's at least a 97% chance of the ultra-portable.

CoreWeb
Jan 5, 2008, 10:07 PM
Really? Lately, it seems to be if there are there are this many rumors about one product, it'll come true. In 2007, it happened with the iPhone, iMac, Fat Nano, and the iTouch. I'm thinking that there's at least a 97% chance of the ultra-portable.

Yeah, but for two or three Macworld Keynotes before that, there were rumors about touch-screen iPods, etc. So, perhaps now that the rumor mill has become so active, we'll see an ultraportable in a year or two. ;)

Actually, as Apple tends to like to release "revolutionary" products at Macworld, I think they probably will at this one. What, I don't know, but it's bound to be exciting.

iCube
Jan 6, 2008, 02:41 PM
He then reminds us that the “Nano” used to be “Mini” and brings up the existence of the Mac Mini. Steve then unveils the “Mac Nano,” a redesigned Mac Mini that is approximately half the height of its predecessor and in an anodized aluminum shell to match recent design changes in the Apple lineup. The Mac Nano will come in two flavors, 2.0 GHz and 2.2 GHz (using current Santa Rosa chips)

All things point to this really happening!

hempcamp
Jan 6, 2008, 02:45 PM
All things point to this really happening!

What things?

I'd kill for Santa Rosa minis right now, but I'm not so sure they're coming at MWSF.

--Chris

PowerFullMac
Jan 6, 2008, 03:03 PM
I just hope they release a new laptop/tablet priced below current MacBooks... A man can dream...

iCube
Jan 6, 2008, 03:50 PM
What things?

-rumors, speculation, Apple refreshing a product line, spy photos, giving a user base an X3100 after constant public outcry for a better GPU, Apple's drive to make things smaller and sleeker, shifting white products to aluminum, the current desktop Mini doesn't fit in your pocket...the Nano might!
Sorry I was vague with the term "things" on a rumor site. Reminds me of the time I mentioned to someone I was gonna "pop" a hard drive in an iMac and I was asked if I meant "popping in the HD" was me casually referring to the quick physical task of manually installing a new hard drive.:o

thegman1234
Jan 6, 2008, 03:51 PM
I just hope they release a new laptop/tablet priced below current MacBooks... A man can dream...

I heard rumors months ago that that's what was going to happen. A lower level laptop. Now the rumors have shifted in many ways. I'm hoping for like, an $800 or less laptop to get for my mom.

PCMacUser
Jan 6, 2008, 04:53 PM
The new Macintosh will come in two standard configurations, 2.2GHz and 2.4GHz with a standard 2GB of memory and SuperDrive, however featuring a single PCI-E graphics slot and accommodation for two, vertically mounted, hard drives with sizes of up to 1TB each.

You'll need to think this one through again - a PCI-E graphics slot will require a chassis that is much longer than the Mac Mini's, if you actually intend to install a video card into it...

djellison
Jan 6, 2008, 05:15 PM
Transcript #1: Said that the 12” MacBook Pro was sort of like the PowerBook G5--everyone wanted it, but it was never meant to happen.

On this point alone, I call bull. There are 12" C2D laptops with discreet graphics available. When it was the G5 part, Apple could claim that the CPU manufacturer couldn't provide a mobile part. Not any more. They can't hide behind the CPU anymore.

We KNOW what CPU's are available, we KNOW that a 12" laptop using these parts is possible.

We also know that Apple can make a slimmer 15" laptop than most manufacturers.

For Apple to claim they couldn't manage a 12" laptop would be pathetic because it would be an admission of a failure on their part alone.

Doug

gerardrj
Jan 6, 2008, 07:26 PM
Indeed. :(

I wish MacRumors (and everyone else), would stop referring to these as "transcripts" at all. They simply aren't.


Exactly... the people calling these "transcripts" just seem so ignorant.

These are fantasy outlines/speakers notes/scripts but they can't possibly be transcripts.
This isn't a matter of semantics, like calling a comic book a graphic novel, this is on the order of calling a tarot card reading a historical document.

ansella
Jan 6, 2008, 08:33 PM
I don't understand why we can't get the whole package. Why can't computer companies like mac and others just get with the program and use all the new technologies available? How hard would it be to give us a 12 inch convertible Mac Tablet with a kick ass graphics card, a blueRay/HD-DVD optical drive and an LED High Def screen. I don't mean something with low clock speeds like the rest of the world seems to be doing with tablets...I mean 2.8 Ghz and an 512 Invidia 8800 GT or a 512 ATI/Saphire HD3870. Apple always says that they want to appeal to the multimedia type folks. I am a developer that does a lot of gaming and helmet cam Mountain Bike\ skiing movies as well. I want it all and I want it in HD! The only companies that seem to be trying to do this right is Toshiba and Fujitsu. Everyone know that Vista sucks so I for one am not buying a PC until the bugs are GONE! So Apple, if you come out with something good this year... something we really don't mind spending our money on, then I guarantee you that most people like me are going to go MAC crazy. There is a huge opportunity here because of the whole worlds frustration with Vista. I have been waiting for a MAC tablet for 2 years now. Come on already!

ansella
Jan 6, 2008, 08:44 PM
Why do we need the 8800GT? It's not a gaming machine and the 1900XT is MORE than capable.

Why do we need the Penryn which is only just released? I'd rather have a proven chip in my workstation thanks and without the premium of showroom pricing.

Explain the need for a high speed FSB. With serious comments please.

2 GB standard...ok, sounds great. What?

Realistic pricing - check. Got that already.

This reeks of gamer-esque whining... I really hope it isnt.

Come on buddy! Did you seriously say this is not a gaming machine? If this is not a gaming machine what other portable computer does Mac have that is one? Mac can not be the only PC manufacturer out there without a laptop that is gaming capable. The Mac Book Pro should be just that "PRO". It should have all the bells and whistles the Mac Book does not have or I for one will not pay the extra money for it. I am not going to buy one now as it is until they update it. If they don't update it this January I am going to be crushed. It is way overpriced for what is in it right now. I just bought a diamond 512 Radeon HD 3870 for $325.00. Why on earth do the Pro's still have 256 cards in them? The price just isn't worth it.

bobcb
Jan 6, 2008, 10:51 PM
All things point to this really happening!

Did you mean No Things?

bobcb
Jan 6, 2008, 10:53 PM
Come on buddy! Did you seriously say this is not a gaming machine? If this is not a gaming machine what other portable computer does Mac have that is one? Mac can not be the only PC manufacturer out there without a laptop that is gaming capable. The Mac Book Pro should be just that "PRO". It should have all the bells and whistles the Mac Book does not have or I for one will not pay the extra money for it. I am not going to buy one now as it is until they update it. If they don't update it this January I am going to be crushed. It is way overpriced for what is in it right now. I just bought a diamond 512 Radeon HD 3870 for $325.00. Why on earth do the Pro's still have 256 cards in them? The price just isn't worth it.

Did you miss the part where Apple really doesn't care about gaming much? This is clearly gamer whining.

Gunga Din
Jan 6, 2008, 11:13 PM
Come on buddy! Did you seriously say this is not a gaming machine? If this is not a gaming machine what other portable computer does Mac have that is one? Mac can not be the only PC manufacturer out there without a laptop that is gaming capable. The Mac Book Pro should be just that "PRO". It should have all the bells and whistles the Mac Book does not have or I for one will not pay the extra money for it. I am not going to buy one now as it is until they update it. If they don't update it this January I am going to be crushed. It is way overpriced for what is in it right now. I just bought a diamond 512 Radeon HD 3870 for $325.00. Why on earth do the Pro's still have 256 cards in them? The price just isn't worth it.

I think Ansella is spot on. Its not just about the gaming. I think we would all love a little extra horsepower under the hood to cover anything we would like to do. I'm waiting to see what develops at the Expo also. This is primetime to stick it to MS and Vista. If you build it, they will switch !!

iCube
Jan 6, 2008, 11:27 PM
Did you mean No Things?
I've closely watched the life span of many Apple products for a long time, I hope the Mac mini isn't going to be replaced any time soon. I don't want to debate it, we'll all know in two weeks. With 5 versions out, I hope they keep improving it!

CMason09
Jan 6, 2008, 11:36 PM
What I honestly expect at MacWorld:

Steve will come out and announce the numbers (every citizen of China bought an iPod touch this quarter!! And everyone and their brother downloaded from iTunes!! Fanfare!!)

1. Modest hardware upgrades for at least the Mac Pro; updated Intel processors (maybe some Intel rep with a ridiculous accent can announce this one, as usual). Everyone's right about the hardware being outdated, and I think Apple will recognize our plight, too.
2. New ultra-portable or tablet (or at least some notebook that sports the gunmetal everyone's been sighting - maybe a new finish option for the MB or MBP)
3. Updated Cinema Displays with iSight

Redesigns are going to be a stretch, and if there is anything it'll be to the notebooks. A Mac nano seems a little much, also, seeing as only a few months ago they were supposedly going to discontinue the mini.

An iPhone update is not happening, seeing as the thing was announced a year ago and released just six months ago. A 3G iPhone would piss as many people off as the price drop did, so I doubt Apple will drop that baby on us yet.

As for the whole Front Row 3 thing, I highly doubt Apple would be interested in the eyeTV idea. They could come out with some media station to monopolize on people's using Mac minis with their plasmas as media players, but then they could always just improve upon :apple:TV to make it a more popular item.

The BluRay idea is a nice one, but I wonder where Apple stands on the issue. Perhaps a dual-use BR/HD-DVD drive, for reading only (using the LG drive that someone brought up)? Who knows, but it would be nice.

As for the "transcripts," I have problems with both. While nice ideas, I fear they're just fanboys' dreams. And Steve better be in his trainers, or the world as I know it will collapse painfully around me.

zedsdead
Jan 7, 2008, 06:58 AM
What I honestly expect at MacWorld:

Steve will come out and announce the numbers (every citizen of China bought an iPod touch this quarter!! And everyone and their brother downloaded from iTunes!! Fanfare!!)

1. Modest hardware upgrades for at least the Mac Pro; updated Intel processors (maybe some Intel rep with a ridiculous accent can announce this one, as usual). Everyone's right about the hardware being outdated, and I think Apple will recognize our plight, too.
2. New ultra-portable or tablet (or at least some notebook that sports the gunmetal everyone's been sighting - maybe a new finish option for the MB or MBP)
3. Updated Cinema Displays with iSight

Redesigns are going to be a stretch, and if there is anything it'll be to the notebooks. A Mac nano seems a little much, also, seeing as only a few months ago they were supposedly going to discontinue the mini.

An iPhone update is not happening, seeing as the thing was announced a year ago and released just six months ago. A 3G iPhone would piss as many people off as the price drop did, so I doubt Apple will drop that baby on us yet.

As for the whole Front Row 3 thing, I highly doubt Apple would be interested in the eyeTV idea. They could come out with some media station to monopolize on people's using Mac minis with their plasmas as media players, but then they could always just improve upon :apple:TV to make it a more popular item.

The BluRay idea is a nice one, but I wonder where Apple stands on the issue. Perhaps a dual-use BR/HD-DVD drive, for reading only (using the LG drive that someone brought up)? Who knows, but it would be nice.

As for the "transcripts," I have problems with both. While nice ideas, I fear they're just fanboys' dreams. And Steve better be in his trainers, or the world as I know it will collapse painfully around me.

I agree with a lot of what you said, however I do expect Apple to go Blu-Ray (especially now with the Warner announcement). They may leave HD DVD authoring in DVD Studio Pro 4, but will not provide the hardware, but then again, you never know.

As for the rest, I agree that the Mac Pro will likely get updated, as will the Cinema Displays. The Mac Nano might emerge to replace the Mini...might.

The iPhone will not be updated yet in terms of hardware, but I am expecting a major software update (at least the 1.1.3 that leaked anyway). The SDK might be demoed, or Apple might hold an entire separate keynote for that in februrary...who know's.

The ultra-portable Mac seems to be the most reliable rumor, so I expect that...what it will be and look like, who knows.

I expect Apple to release iTunes 8 and update the Apple TV at this event. HD downloads, rentals, and other new software features.

These are my guesses.

ThinkGeek
Jan 7, 2008, 10:39 AM
Steve enters from backstage and welcomes the audience, saying that he has some exciting things today for everyone but first he wants to go over numbers. Focusing on Mac sales and highest growth rate in the industry, before moving into the adoption rates for iPhone and Leopard.

Steve moves to center stage and starts his presentation about 1984, the year that the computing industry changed. The Apple logo on the screen behind him fades to the classic logo and pictures of the original Macintosh transition across the screens.

Steve: In 1984 the computer industry changed, the status quo was no longer acceptable and the future was born...the Macintosh. Today we will once again change the industry...ladies and gentlemen it is with no small amount of pride I present to you...the new Macintosh.

The screens behind him fade to black and rising from the stage in front of Steve appears the new Macintosh. A visual melding of the Mac Mini, Mac Pro, and the new iMac presenting a form factor of approximately 50% of the Mac Pro's height, the Mac Mini's width and length, made of anodized aluminum with a black glass front housing a vertical slot load optical drive, in the center of the black glass a glowing white Apple logo appears and the familiar startup chime sounds.

The new Macintosh will come in two standard configurations, 2.2GHz and 2.4GHz with a standard 2GB of memory and SuperDrive, however featuring a single PCI-E graphics slot and accommodation for two, vertically mounted, hard drives with sizes of up to 1TB each.

Steve announces that the new Macintosh is on sale today and shipping in february...
:apple:

lol, what if....

The new Macintosh will come in two standard configurations, 1 KHz with a standard 521K of memory and SuperDrive, however featuring a single PCI-E graphics slot and accommodation for two, vertically mounted, hard drives with sizes of up to whatever the Floppy can take.

NOSTALGIA FOR SOME PEOPLE!!!!

CMason09
Jan 7, 2008, 04:18 PM
I agree with a lot of what you said, however I do expect Apple to go Blu-Ray (especially now with the Warner announcement). They may leave HD DVD authoring in DVD Studio Pro 4, but will not provide the hardware, but then again, you never know.

As for the rest, I agree that the Mac Pro will likely get updated, as will the Cinema Displays. The Mac Nano might emerge to replace the Mini...might.

The iPhone will not be updated yet in terms of hardware, but I am expecting a major software update (at least the 1.1.3 that leaked anyway). The SDK might be demoed, or Apple might hold an entire separate keynote for that in februrary...who know's.

The ultra-portable Mac seems to be the most reliable rumor, so I expect that...what it will be and look like, who knows.

I expect Apple to release iTunes 8 and update the Apple TV at this event. HD downloads, rentals, and other new software features.

These are my guesses.

To start off, great screen name from a great movie.

Secondly, I forgot to mention anything about iTunes 8, and I expect movie rentals will be included. The iPhone SDK would be a treat, but I agree that they'd make that its own special iPhone event.

As for the BR/HD DVD issue, I really wonder which way Apple's going to go. I think they're both good options with tons of prospects for the future, but really it comes down to which will be in higher demand. I think Apple might offer both drives as high-end upgrades (UltraDrive? Haha) or just wait and see which one becomes more popular. Heck, maybe both.

Tallest Skil
Jan 7, 2008, 04:44 PM
I realize that Warner just went strictly Blu-ray AND that Apple's on the Blu-ray board, but Intel's on the HD DVD board, aren't they? I think we'll see both formats presented by Apple if they do it at MacWorld. If they do it any later, they'll have chosen one side or another.

applemax
Jan 7, 2008, 04:50 PM
Maybe Apple will forget BD and HD DVD and just launch their own format! :p

iRay HD :D :D

zedsdead
Jan 7, 2008, 05:07 PM
I realize that Warner just went strictly Blu-ray AND that Apple's on the Blu-ray board, but Intel's on the HD DVD board, aren't they? I think we'll see both formats presented by Apple if they do it at MacWorld. If they do it any later, they'll have chosen one side or another.

Apple officially supports both (HD DVD authoring is already in DVD Studio Pro 4 with Red Laser DVD-R's) and their are on the Blu-Ray board. Apple supports both because both support their H.264 codec. However, when it comes to putting hardware in their machines, given the recent Warner news I have a feeling Apple may simply go Blu-Ray. You never know though since it was last minute and Apple may have already decided to do Super Blu-Drive to playback both.

thegman1234
Jan 8, 2008, 05:01 PM
My roommate just pointed out the Mac Pro's ability to use up to 32 gigs of ram. Was this always possible or is this new? BTW the 8-Core is now the standard with the Quad being a price drop option, and 1 TB SATA drives are a BTO option.

It looks like the Mac Pro got a minor update before Macworld lol.

MikeTheC
Jan 8, 2008, 05:52 PM
I can't believe you folks dare post such stuff without consulting me first. As Stimpy of Ren & Stimpy fame likes to say, "Hey! I wanna holler the big, loud words!"

;)

kwfl
Jan 8, 2008, 06:47 PM
believe me, they are not launching anything blu ray related, i work for apple :D

techlover828
Jan 8, 2008, 06:49 PM
believe me, they are not launching anything blu ray related, i work for apple :D

i believe you

tmoney468
Jan 8, 2008, 10:35 PM
I wonder if Apple will release some sort of new product for the car...I know that there was rumors that they were working with Volkswagen I think on some car audio stuff.

I just have visions of having a car receiver with a nice, full-face touchscreen that displays the album artwork and all of the artist info. Coverflow anyone? (all though it may not be the best thing to do when you're driving).

Peace
Jan 9, 2008, 12:28 AM
believe me, they are not launching anything blu ray related, i work for apple :D

Posts like this one (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=4527139&postcount=257) are gonna make your departure from Apple a lot smoother huh ? ;)

benspratling
Jan 9, 2008, 02:08 AM
i dunno, "mac nano" sounds so weird

yeah, so does "MacBook"

benspratling
Jan 9, 2008, 02:12 AM
I don't believe that Apple would provide a BR option but no HD DVD option, due to past comments (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/apr/17hd.html):

"Apple is committed to both emerging high definition DVD standards—Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD."

Which apparently really means neither, cause neither plays on my machine.

benspratling
Jan 9, 2008, 02:22 AM
Well I typed up a big long story about why apple chose blu ray over HD dvd because blu ray was superior getting 25gb per layer compared to 15gb per layer HD dvd gets. I think you got 720p, 1080i, 1080p confused with HD dvds. long story short I hit the backspace key.:mad:

yeah, don't you just love web apps now?

benspratling
Jan 9, 2008, 02:29 AM
There is also a new technology feature, where users can battery-charge their iPods at Starbucks, simply by drinking caffienated products.



Don't laugh, I worked on that in a lab last year. Except, instead of caffeine, we used plain sugar. Oh yeah, and the research was funded by NASA. (Actually, it was funded by the AFRL, but it would have been so much funnier if it had been NASA.) It's called a "bio fuel cell" and it uses blood sugar (glucose) to generate micro-power for sensors embedded in astronauts - still experimental. I think maybe LSU was spear heading the chemistry. And when I say "micro-power" I mean power levels so low we had trouble finding resistors with low enough resistivity to even measure the power levels.

benspratling
Jan 9, 2008, 02:37 AM
I was waiting for the part in the script where:

Steve, suddenly jumps out of a large BOX containing the new iMac with matte monitor and a team of highly professional staff for APPLE AUSTRALIA!

Guys, I've never in my life been screwed around so badly since dealing with Apple Australia.

I've spent the last three days actually researching and contemplating a windows product. I'm completely clueless with windows because I've never owned a non-Mac before, but after the way I have been treated by Apple Australia I seriously don't know if I can go through with another Mac disappointment.

Sad Mac user :?(

No, just sad Australian. Move to the US :)

benspratling
Jan 9, 2008, 02:45 AM
AMEN Brother. It'd be nice to get a Pro Apple system with no bugs or faulty construction. How about a MacBook Pro that doesn't creak when I pick it up?

Oh, I thought that was just me...

Warfel005
Jan 9, 2008, 08:27 PM
I'm surprised that the displays didn't go down that much in price, i mean i just bought a 22" lcd with way more features than the apple one for $300 (not that i believe these leaked presentations)

bobcb
Jan 10, 2008, 06:39 AM
i believe you

And I believe you believe him...

myeggsareboiled
Jan 11, 2008, 07:20 AM
I'm thinking Apple must be launching something massive this year. They have invited the European press to a satellite link up at the BBC. They have never done that before, not even with the iPhone. My money is on a big HDTV with a built in mac. What I really want to see though is a mac mini/nano with a half decent graphics card in it, and a Blu ray drive. That would make me a happy bunny for sure!

applemax
Jan 11, 2008, 01:30 PM
I'm thinking Apple must be launching something massive this year. They have invited the European press to a satellite link up at the BBC. They have never done that before, not even with the iPhone. My money is on a big HDTV with a built in mac. What I really want to see though is a mac mini/nano with a half decent graphics card in it, and a Blu ray drive. That would make me a happy bunny for sure!

They've linked up with the BBC TV Centre every year for every Macworld since 2004.

lucky3killer
Jan 11, 2008, 02:47 PM
What's channel about watch Macworld SF 2008 on Jan 15? What time?

Thanks

jnc
Jan 11, 2008, 03:21 PM
What's channel about watch Macworld SF 2008 on Jan 15? What time?

Thanks

You can't see it live, but the video should be available within a day or so from Apple directly.

aswitcher
Jan 11, 2008, 03:44 PM
You can't see it live, but the video should be available within a day or so from Apple directly.

Within 3-6 hours typically. Stream can be choppy. Its a shame they dont make it available from iTunes. For the price of a song I would even pay to download it from the ITMS.

themadchemist
Jan 11, 2008, 06:05 PM
Don't laugh, I worked on that in a lab last year. Except, instead of caffeine, we used plain sugar. Oh yeah, and the research was funded by NASA. (Actually, it was funded by the AFRL, but it would have been so much funnier if it had been NASA.) It's called a "bio fuel cell" and it uses blood sugar (glucose) to generate micro-power for sensors embedded in astronauts - still experimental. I think maybe LSU was spear heading the chemistry. And when I say "micro-power" I mean power levels so low we had trouble finding resistors with low enough resistivity to even measure the power levels.

Got any papers I can read about this? I'm not a physicist, so a review article would be the best thing, if there is one.