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MacRumors
Oct 7, 2003, 08:10 PM
MacBidouille (http://www.hardmac.com/niouzcontenu.php?date=2003-10-07#729) cites sources "close to Apple" which claims that all G5 buyers will get a free (S&H) upgrade to Panther. They warn that nothing is confirmed.

Apple has not yet provided any official details on Panther upgrade pricing.



Freg3000
Oct 7, 2003, 08:14 PM
That sure is nice of Apple. Although I don't really understand why. What makes G5 buyers different than the buyers of eMacs or iBooks? Only people on the rumor scene ever suggested G5 buyers would get a free (or $20) Panther upgrade. Apple never said such a thing.

I am very skeptical to say the least.

Waluigi
Oct 7, 2003, 08:15 PM
S+H? Thats it?!?!?!

applemacdude
Oct 7, 2003, 08:15 PM
I thought MacB wasnt doing rumors anymore...

Phil Of Mac
Oct 7, 2003, 08:19 PM
Pssh. I hereby dismiss this rumor as ludicrous!

snofseth
Oct 7, 2003, 08:29 PM
In the article it talks about only computers bought after apple expo is this paris. Also can you put the savings on a new computer to one of those family packs?

knoxer
Oct 7, 2003, 08:29 PM
I have a G5, and I can say with certainty that everything isn't perfect with 10.2.7. Audio glitches are especially noticeable for me. There are no big problems, but there are a LOT of differences between G4's and G5's, and basically all Apple did with 10.2.7 was re-compile 10.2.6, add a few new drivers and call it good enough. 10.3 is MADE for the G5. That's why they haven't even bothered with a G5 X-Serve yet. And that's why even the Virginia Tech supercomputer cluster is running BETA versions of 10.3 right now instead of 10.2.7.

I believe this could be true (mostly because I really really hope it is true), but even if it's not, I'm buying it.

Thirteenva
Oct 7, 2003, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by Freg3000
That sure is nice of Apple. Although I don't really understand why. What makes G5 buyers different than the buyers of eMacs or iBooks?


Maybe to make up for all the shuffling of our ship dates. And the fact that they made more effort to optimize Panther for the G5 than 10.2.7, they may want their top machines performing at their best.

As a G5 owner I can only hope, as work isn't about to shell out 130 bucks to update a computer that just arrived last week.

However, given apples stand on free upgrades I seriously doubt this is true.

Sun Baked
Oct 7, 2003, 08:46 PM
Usually the Mac OS "Up-to-Date" program (the 19.95 s&h) covers machines that ship (or are in channel) that don't have the newest OS -- or a specific machine.

Can't remember the details...

Chaszmyr
Oct 7, 2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by applemacdude
I thought MacB wasnt doing rumors anymore...

Took the words right out of my mouth

blueflame
Oct 7, 2003, 09:09 PM
so, if i bought a 17 inch AluBook in january, i got those coupons too, what good are they? do they do ANything useful?
Andreas

arn
Oct 7, 2003, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by blueflame
so, if i bought a 17 inch AluBook in january, i got those coupons too, what good are they? do they do ANything useful?
Andreas

probably not, but we won't know until Apple says.

arn

QCassidy352
Oct 7, 2003, 09:17 PM
yeah, I've got a question about those coupons. I just got a new 12" albook so I have some coupons... but they seem to have no date or identifying marks on them. So how would those prove to apple that I bought a computer in the last month?

dho
Oct 7, 2003, 09:23 PM
applemacdude:

I guess they might be doing rumors that don't clearly violate someones NDA.

or maybe just the steve factor:
"if it pisses off his steveniess then we wont announce it"

who knows

Powerbook G5
Oct 7, 2003, 09:48 PM
It does seem odd that they'd do a free upgrade for G5 owners. But who knows...I'd just be happy with a release date posted and if we're really lucky, a pre-order option within the next week.

Genie
Oct 7, 2003, 11:07 PM
I would love it... but I'm not placing much stock in this rumor.

LordMydrin
Oct 7, 2003, 11:38 PM
I recall at some point Apple saying that they would only charge for every other upgrade... pay for 10.0, 10.1 is free.... 10.2 was a pay, so wouldn't that mean 10.3 is free? :-) I like the idea of free, but does anyone remember something like this, or I am I just delusional?

stoid
Oct 7, 2003, 11:47 PM
I know that Jaguar was free for education for awhile. Was that right away, or did they wait a month before that offer?

Phil Of Mac
Oct 7, 2003, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by LordMydrin
I recall at some point Apple saying that they would only charge for every other upgrade... pay for 10.0, 10.1 is free.... 10.2 was a pay, so wouldn't that mean 10.3 is free? :-) I like the idea of free, but does anyone remember something like this, or I am I just delusional?

It was past speculation. Apple said 10.3 will be $130.

sugarprobe
Oct 7, 2003, 11:58 PM
I think anybody who bought a G4 or G5 with in 30 days of the release should get the free upgrade or at least the shipping cost. Either way. I am getting it. Cheers

danielgrenell
Oct 8, 2003, 12:10 AM
how about pbooks, my 15 inch arrived today

danielgrenell
Oct 8, 2003, 12:12 AM
stoid, that was a loooong time after jag was released

Makosuke
Oct 8, 2003, 05:02 AM
I wouldn't call it a surprise if Apple didn't do this, but it's the same sort of thing Apple has done in the past, so it seems pretty logical, likely even.

I wouldn't hold out much hope for Powerbooks, though. But who knows, Apple might be in a giving mood...

In a more general vein, I do wish Apple would institute a bit of an upgrade program. $130 is reasonable, even for an upgrade, but it makes people feel a lot better if you give them at least a bit of a discount when they paid for the last version too. Even a $99 upgrade.

On the every other upgrade free thing, although Steve might've said something along the lines when 10.2 was announced, or it might've been speculation--I don't remember.

I thought, though, that the comment was about .5 releases of Classic being cheap, with full point releases being full price. I don't know if that's how it actually was, but if that isthe case then it would stand to reason that 10.3 is a full-price upgrade; Apple's doing all oh-point upgrades free now, and other than 10.0-10.1, which was huge but as much as anything bugfixes, it looks like every OSX "point" release is easily the equivalent of a Classic full version increase--the differences between 10.1 and 10.2 were way bigger than 8.0 to 9.0 at least.

Macette
Oct 8, 2003, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by Powerbook G5
It does seem odd that they'd do a free upgrade for G5 owners.

I don't think it's odd at all, considering us G5 owners just forked out a lot of cash (read: my entire income for this quarter), as long as waiting for MONTHS, plus putting our faith in a rev 1 product... yep, I reckon we deserve it.

My 0.02.

Lancetx
Oct 8, 2003, 06:58 AM
U.S. & UK Online Stores are down...

DeusOmnis
Oct 8, 2003, 07:05 AM
the ppl want free upgrades, the ppl may get free upgrades.

apple wants happy consumers.

Macette
Oct 8, 2003, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by Lancetx
U.S. & UK Online Stores are down...

well spotted. aussie store too (though they're obviously all linked).

.a
Oct 8, 2003, 07:42 AM
ical & isync update - panther to be here october 24th
.a

agentmouthwash
Oct 8, 2003, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by Macette
I don't think it's odd at all, considering us G5 owners just forked out a lot of cash (read: my entire income for this quarter), as long as waiting for MONTHS, plus putting our faith in a rev 1 product... yep, I reckon we deserve it.

My 0.02.


I just spent over $2700 on a new 15" Powerbook G4 just a week ago. I think I deserve it as well.

Macette
Oct 8, 2003, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by agentmouthwash
I just spent over $2700 on a new 15" Powerbook G4 just a week ago. I think I deserve it as well.

i can't argue with that. surely apple will look after us?

Macette
Oct 8, 2003, 07:54 AM
panther's in the apple store for pre-order. so we shall see.

Nik_Doof
Oct 8, 2003, 07:54 AM
Good call, got a 12" PB on order, started shipping yesterday.... Hopefully i will get some kinda discount :(

Macette
Oct 8, 2003, 08:00 AM
yes, you do. anything ordered after october 8th, plus all G5 owners.

Powerbook G5
Oct 8, 2003, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by Macette
I don't think it's odd at all, considering us G5 owners just forked out a lot of cash (read: my entire income for this quarter), as long as waiting for MONTHS, plus putting our faith in a rev 1 product... yep, I reckon we deserve it.

My 0.02.

I waited just as long for my PowerBook and forked out just as much cash as a PowerMac user, though. Wouldn't it be reasonable that I'd deserve a free upgrade just as much as you?

agentmouthwash
Oct 8, 2003, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by Macette
i can't argue with that. surely apple will look after us?

Doesn't Apple usually give us a 30 day grace period?

Peyote
Oct 8, 2003, 09:22 AM
I certainly hope there's a grace period. My wife and I just added an iMac less than 2 weeks ago to our family and I will be PISSED if Apple doesn't give us the upgrade.

MasterMac
Oct 8, 2003, 03:27 PM
I got my educational discount, so that's good enough for me :)

sugarprobe
Oct 8, 2003, 05:54 PM
Just wondering if Panther is 64 bit on the G5?

cheesy
Oct 8, 2003, 05:57 PM
I ordered my new PowerBook on September 16. I tried entering my serial number and purchase date in the upgrade (Up To Date) page and it worked. It's not free, but it's only $20. That's good enough for me, I was already willing to pay the $70 or whatever for the educational discount.

I already got my confirmation too (I think it was the confirmation)

Phil Of Mac
Oct 8, 2003, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by sugarprobe
Just wondering if Panther is 64 bit on the G5?

Nope.

microrario
Oct 8, 2003, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by cheesy
I ordered my new PowerBook on September 16. I tried entering my serial number and purchase date in the upgrade (Up To Date) page and it worked. It's not free, but it's only $20. That's good enough for me, I was already willing to pay the $70 or whatever for the educational discount.

I already got my confirmation too (I think it was the confirmation)

That piece of information just made my day considering I bought the same product on the same exact day. Except I have not even recieved the powerbook yet...

Genie
Oct 8, 2003, 06:57 PM
YEA!

I just d/l'd the fax form to get the $20 upgrade.

Apple did the right thing!

MasterMac
Oct 8, 2003, 07:54 PM
Yep. I too was able to get the $20 up-to-date thingy for my PB that I got on the 17th :D now I gotta go cancle my other educational discount order :p

tizza
Oct 8, 2003, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Powerbook G5
I waited just as long for my PowerBook and forked out just as much cash as a PowerMac user, though. Wouldn't it be reasonable that I'd deserve a free upgrade just as much as you?
Ditto - waited a long time for my new 15" PB - I would have prehaps even been prepared to wait until Panther was pre-installed if it wasn't for the fact I HAD to get a new computer at the time - don't even ask what I had to pay down here in Australia ...

Sun Baked
Oct 8, 2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by agentmouthwash
Doesn't Apple usually give us a 30 day grace period? I couldn't remember, and Apple had already removed all info from the last Mac OS Up-to-Date program when I looked.

The last one is probably still on the site, here, but I'm too lazy to search.

But Apple does make treat the pre-Announcement dog & pony show different than the actual "New OS is shipping On x Day" announcement.

Phil Of Mac
Oct 8, 2003, 11:32 PM
Why don't we just pay $10 a month ($5 for students) to get a subscription to Mac OS X Update and they can give us new features as soon as they invent them instead of putting everything in big releases like Panther?

cheesy
Oct 9, 2003, 03:12 AM
That wouldn't be as exciting!

kulafarmer
Oct 12, 2003, 10:56 PM
I bought a 15" 1.25Ghz powerbook at an Apple store on 9.17.03.

I logged in on update with this date and my s/n.

I got the update for $19.95 plus tax and $7.00 for 2 day shipping.

Thanks Apple and thanks to you who borught it to my attention