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MacRumors
Jan 14, 2008, 06:40 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/01/14/193927-query.png

There was a flurry of discussion about the MacBookAir.com redirecting to:

http://www.apple.com/?Will+We+see+a+MacBookAir+on+Tuesday

This redirection is not an endorsement by Apple itself. Anyone can redirect any domain to any other domain and add a "query string" (?text). You can change it to whatever you want, and this query is passed to the web server. In this case, Apple.com ignores the query.

Example: http://www.apple.com/?I+love+you (http://www.apple.com/?I+love+you)

And besides, MacBookAir.com isn't registered by Apple.com... it was registered by us. If Apple decides to use the MacBook Air name, they are welcome to the domain.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/01/14/macbookair-com-clarification/)



CWallace
Jan 14, 2008, 06:41 PM
Mystery solved.

Move along. Nothing to see here. :)

macmike47
Jan 14, 2008, 06:42 PM
:eek: It was you!!!??

Eric Lewis
Jan 14, 2008, 06:44 PM
www.macbookair.com

doesnt work now

Peace
Jan 14, 2008, 06:44 PM
I'd love to see the logbook from today for Apple.com :D

Doctor Q
Jan 14, 2008, 06:49 PM
I checked if Apple registered MacBookAirReply.com (http://www.MacBookAirReply.com)
and set it to redirect tohttp://www.macrumors.com/?Yes+you+Will+See+It
No they didn't. Maybe that proves that the answer is No instead of Yes. ;)

Peace
Jan 14, 2008, 06:51 PM
Doesn't it still take like 12-24 hours for a domain name to get updated in all the databases ?

Maybe they will.:)

WildCowboy
Jan 14, 2008, 06:54 PM
I checked if Apple registered MacBookAirReply.com (http://www.MacBookAirReply.com)

First there was the U2 iPod, but now Apple appears to have fallen on such hard times that it is now forced to partner with what sounds like it should be an Air Supply cover band. :( ;)

timmypv15
Jan 14, 2008, 06:59 PM
MacRumors keeps posting "whispers" and "rumors" that the macbook air is true.

and they say that they registered the macbookair.com domain

maybe apple contacted them for it and thats why they know these whispers

thejadedmonkey
Jan 14, 2008, 07:01 PM
And besides, MacBookAir.com isn't registered by Apple.com... it was registered by us. If Apple decides to use the MacBook Air name, they are welcome to the domain.

What (http://digg.com/tech_news/Gizmoron_Runs_Amok_At_CES_Another_Strike_Against_Bloggers) about (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9849168-7.html%22) Gizmodo (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=412069)? Where did responsible journalism go? I rely on MR and MR alone for reliable information (and rumors!), not pranks.

EDIT: I'm not mad or anything, just.. I guess it could've been played better. MR is still my #1 site :D

MrCrowbar
Jan 14, 2008, 07:01 PM
You will just give the domain to Apple? That's noble.

kainjow
Jan 14, 2008, 07:04 PM
You will just give the domain to Apple? That's noble.

For 5 bazillion dollars.

dejo
Jan 14, 2008, 07:04 PM
Anyone can redirect any domain they have control of to any other domain...
Since this is a clarification thread, I've corrected this statement.

Sbrocket
Jan 14, 2008, 07:04 PM
MacRumors keeps posting "whispers" and "rumors" that the macbook air is true.

and they say that they registered the macbookair.com domain

maybe apple contacted them for it and thats why they know these whispers

Or maybe they just get information from reliable sources, which is generally how the rumor industry gets its info in my experience.

ThunderLounge
Jan 14, 2008, 07:11 PM
Wow. But isn't that like taking credit for it being you, when you step out of a crowded elevator? :D

Pretty slick, Arn and Co. Pretty slick.

DPazdanISU
Jan 14, 2008, 07:13 PM
I don't know Arn, I think that is kind of sketchy that you guys would buy up a domain after someone willingly informed you of a possible product release. I mean, it's smart, but the fact that Macrumors had the information before the general public makes this move questionable.

Anonymous Freak
Jan 14, 2008, 07:13 PM
I'm assuming that ars (or someone else at MR) pre-emptively registered it because they saw it was unregistered, and wanted to 'protect' it. MR has *NEVER* said it was an 'unbiased news' site. Heck, the name alone says it. MacRumors.

The fact that they're doing it out of 'love' for Apple rather than a plain squatter isn't a problem to me.

(Heck, a few years ago, one of Microsoft's primary domain names {not microsoft.com, but I can't remember which one it was} accidentally expired, and a Linux programmer picked it up. He turned it back over to Microsoft for no charge.)

arn
Jan 14, 2008, 07:18 PM
It wasn't really intended to be a "prank". I just underestimated people's understanding of the query string. Hence the quick correction/redirect removal.

I registered it on reflex. I register domain names (see: pcrumors.com, applerumors.com etc...). When I see a good free domain name, I register it.

MacBookAir is a special case domain, since if its true, it's going to be a trademarked name. I have no interest in using it, and even if I did, Apple could go through a formal arbitration processes to get it. I'd rather just transfer it to Apple if its true.

arn

MacRumorUser
Jan 14, 2008, 07:18 PM
Arn you should give yourself a time-out for upsetting all the newbies ;):p:D

WildCowboy
Jan 14, 2008, 07:21 PM
MacBookAir is a special case domain, since if its true, it's going to be a trademarked name. I have no interest in using it, and even if I did, Apple could go through a formal arbitration processes to get it. I'd rather just transfer it to Apple if its true.

Registering it is also a good way to see what Apple's reaction to that action might be. ;)

NAG
Jan 14, 2008, 07:21 PM
ILoveBees

(I think people are coming to expect every company does a viral game.)

cazlar
Jan 14, 2008, 07:23 PM
(Heck, a few years ago, one of Microsoft's primary domain names {not microsoft.com, but I can't remember which one it was} accidentally expired, and a Linux programmer picked it up. He turned it back over to Microsoft for no charge.)

Heh, it actually happened to Microsoft twice. Once they forgot to renew hotmail.co.uk (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/11/06/microsoft_forgets_to_renew_hotmail/) and earlier they had forgotten to pay the bill for passport.com (thus taking hotmail down) before a helpful soul paid it for them (http://www.doublewide.net/)

Anonymous Freak
Jan 14, 2008, 07:25 PM
It wasn't really intended to be a "prank". I just underestimated people's understanding of the query string. Hence the quick correction/redirect removal.

I registered it on reflex. I register domain names (see: pcrumors.com, applerumors.com etc...). When I see a good free domain name, I register it.

MacBookAir is a special case domain, since if its true, it's going to be a trademarked name. I have no interest in using it, and even if I did, Apple could go through a formal arbitration processes to get it. I'd rather just transfer it to Apple if its true.

arn

The only problem is that you posted a top-level story (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/01/14/macbook-air-domain-names/) about the registration of macbookair.net/org/biz/etc, and ended it with "So the MacBookAir domain registrations may have been triggered by the MacBookAir.com domain registration - which was not registered by Apple.", but didn't mention in that story that you are the one that registered macbookair.com. At that story, you should have
posted this disclaimer you just wrote.

aimfire
Jan 14, 2008, 07:26 PM
Guys, let's all take a deep breath for a sec... ;)

If Apple had decided to call this the MacBookAir, don't you think they would've registered the domain MONTHS ago...??

NAG
Jan 14, 2008, 07:28 PM
Sigh, lighten up. Oh no, some people jumped to conclusions.

chevitron
Jan 14, 2008, 07:34 PM
Arn is Steve Jobs ;-)

zackkitzmiller
Jan 14, 2008, 07:34 PM
Guys, let's all take a deep breath for a sec... ;)

If Apple had decided to call this the MacBookAir, don't you think they would've registered the domain MONTHS ago...??

My thoughts exactly.

uNext
Jan 14, 2008, 07:45 PM
If Apple decides to use the MacBook Air name, they are welcome to the domain.

For an undisclosed amount of hard cold cash i bet your as will.

How did this horrible name came to be anyways?

macbook air?

I think apple would rather continue a trend like the ipod line.

Macbook nano etc?

MACBOOK AIR? come on people slap yourselfs and ask why would would apple name his think laptop ..MACBOOK AIR?

macbook slim, macbook touch, macbook nano etc.

vandlism
Jan 14, 2008, 07:55 PM
I think apple would rather continue a trend like the ipod line.

Apparently you weren't hanging out on the web the night before the iPod was announced. There were a ton of people hating on the name. Many people thought the iPod was actually going to be a tablet and the name was actually going to be the iPad. There were others who were searching across the net for references to ipod and found out that Intel actually had a product of some sort named ipod and thus declared the name of the now famed-mp3 player to be false. Yes, it was an interesting night on the forums.

DPazdanISU
Jan 14, 2008, 08:00 PM
Arn you should give yourself a time-out for upsetting all the newbies ;):p:D

Sigh, he didn't upset me I just thought it was worth noting.

Anyways I am really excited about the upcoming keynote. I just hope Apple can keep the prices low and maybe lower the prices of some of their current offerings. With the dollar being so weak I don't foresee it happening...

Doctor Q
Jan 14, 2008, 08:16 PM
If Apple had decided to call this the MacBookAir, don't you think they would've registered the domain MONTHS ago...??Months? How 'bout most of a decade? I think they registered iPhone.org in December 1999.

But they always risk exposing the name of the product earlier than necessary if they register before they need to, so perhaps they see the point of waiting.

bigandy
Jan 14, 2008, 08:16 PM
Guys, let's all take a deep breath for a sec... ;)

If Apple had decided to call this the MacBookAir, don't you think they would've registered the domain MONTHS ago...??

My thoughts exactly.

i doubt it. that'd just give new product launches away too easily. it wouldn't make sense, considering apple's secrecy.

timmypv15
Jan 14, 2008, 08:16 PM
Guys, let's all take a deep breath for a sec... ;)

If Apple had decided to call this the MacBookAir, don't you think they would've registered the domain MONTHS ago...??

so true, so true

EricNau
Jan 14, 2008, 08:24 PM
For an undisclosed amount of hard cold cash i bet your as will.
No, because selling a domain in such a fashion would be against the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticybersquatting_Consumer_Protection_Act).

I trust that MacRumors purchased the domain in good faith (and with the suspicions that the name "MacBook Air" will never be used by Apple). :D

BabyFaceMagee
Jan 14, 2008, 08:45 PM
and is asking $49,999 for it. Was that you ARN?

https://www.tdnam.com/trpItemListing.aspx?ci=6711&domain=macbookfeather.com

Seems you had a little lapse in judgement regarding this whole thing. even if it was just the "air" name. I say you buy us all a beer :D

Sprockets
Jan 14, 2008, 09:06 PM
Lots of "1984" avatars in this thread! I feel left out!

:apple:

Adolfo
Jan 14, 2008, 09:33 PM
Guys, let's all take a deep breath for a sec... ;)

If Apple had decided to call this the MacBookAir, don't you think they would've registered the domain MONTHS ago...??

Hmmm... then why don't macbookpro.com and macbook.com point to apple?

queshy
Jan 14, 2008, 09:49 PM
This whole "MacBook air" thing has been blown way out of proportion. It's unlikely they would announce the product name in their teaser poster anyway...

BigPrince
Jan 14, 2008, 11:27 PM
damn so much commotion over a name.

mattvolp
Jan 14, 2008, 11:34 PM
I wish I snapped up that domain. I would have redirected it to this. (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=steve+jobs)
:rolleyes:

miketcool
Jan 15, 2008, 12:01 AM
Months? How 'bout most of a decade? I think they registered iPhone.org in December 1999.

But they always risk exposing the name of the product earlier than necessary if they register before they need to, so perhaps they see the point of waiting.

iPhone was originally for an internet phone device, not the current handset. The name was recycled later by Jobs.

JayLenochiniMac
Jan 15, 2008, 01:04 AM
Let's see, they didn't want:
www.macbookpro.com
www.macbook.com
www.macpro.com
www.imac.com

BabyFaceMagee
Jan 15, 2008, 01:32 AM
Apple lists all of its products in subdirectories under the www.apple.com domain. They don't have a need to start reserving top level domains for every single product, version, etc. Just about all companies work that way. If you go to www.nissanusa.com all the different models of cars are in subdirectories under the main. Same goes for just about every company out there. You think the Ford f150 is under that domain? Of course not. It's under the main www.ford.com site. That's just normal business protocol. The times they differ from this is if the product is a site itself to ease navigation such as www.itunes.com. This way you don't need to go hunting for itunes under the apple directory..it just makes it easier, especially for a company that tries to make things simple for people. But for a product it doesn't make sense because usually you want to compare the numerous offerings within a product line anyway.

Go look at google...if you want to go to the widgets you don't go to googlewidgets.com....you go to it under the subdirectory...so as a rule, new services that are in and of themselves complete new business models get their own top domain. Individual products don't.

mainstreetmark
Jan 15, 2008, 09:12 AM
Apple lists all of its products in subdirectories under the www.apple.com domain. They don't have a need to start reserving top level domains for every single product, version, etc. Just about all companies work that way. If you go to www.nissanusa.com all the different models of cars are in subdirectories under the main. Same goes for just about every company out there. You think the Ford f150 is under that domain? Of course not. It's under the main www.ford.com site. That's just normal business protocol. The times they differ from this is if the product is a site itself to ease navigation such as www.itunes.com. This way you don't need to go hunting for itunes under the apple directory..it just makes it easier, especially for a company that tries to make things simple for people. But for a product it doesn't make sense because usually you want to compare the numerous offerings within a product line anyway.

Go look at google...if you want to go to the widgets you don't go to googlewidgets.com....you go to it under the subdirectory...so as a rule, new services that are in and of themselves complete new business models get their own top domain. Individual products don't.

Yeah! Why protect your own brands and brand images... let some kid on the internet do it. I'm sure that'll work great. Apple doesn't need ipod.com because apple has apple.com/ipod!

ben5959
Jan 15, 2008, 09:53 AM
you intentionally mislead. that is not responsible seeing as you have control of this site. You lost credibility:(

johnzilla
Jan 15, 2008, 09:58 AM
Yeah! Why protect your own brands and brand images... let some kid on the internet do it. I'm sure that'll work great. Apple doesn't need ipod.com because apple has apple.com/ipod!

Registering a domain name has nothing to do with protecting a trademark.

To use a previous example, if Toyota does not register "tundra.com" and Nissan does, Nissan cannot then produce and sell a pickup truck called "tundra" by claiming that Toyota failed to protect their trademark by not registering the domain name.

johnzilla
Jan 15, 2008, 09:59 AM
For 5 bazillion dollars.

Was missing the blatant opportunity for a Dr. Evil quote intentional or just plain oversight? ;)

koobcamuk
Jan 15, 2008, 02:42 PM
you intentionally mislead. that is not responsible seeing as you have control of this site. You lost credibility:(

Agreed. It would have been OK if you had written we registered the domain in white or something...

BabyFaceMagee
Jan 15, 2008, 04:18 PM
Yeah! Why protect your own brands and brand images... let some kid on the internet do it. I'm sure that'll work great. Apple doesn't need ipod.com because apple has apple.com/ipod!

You completely missed the point of my post.

ClimbingTheLog
Jan 15, 2008, 06:01 PM
I'd rather just transfer it to Apple if its true.

It'll be nice to be on the 'we owe you one' side rather than the 'we're gonna sue your ass over some product we're never going to release' side.

If Apple had decided to call this the MacBookAir, don't you think they would've registered the domain MONTHS ago...??

Guess, not, eh?

You lost credibility

Yeah, but we're going to be making 'Arn must've registered it' jokes for years here now.

Agreed. It would have been OK if you had written we registered the domain in white or something...

He did, you just didn't notice it... ;)

jamesnajera
Jan 15, 2008, 06:53 PM
If Apple decides to use the MacBook Air name, they are welcome to the domain.

For an undisclosed amount of hard cold cash i bet your as will.

How did this horrible name came to be anyways?

macbook air?

I think apple would rather continue a trend like the ipod line.

Macbook nano etc?

MACBOOK AIR? come on people slap yourselfs and ask why would would apple name his think laptop ..MACBOOK AIR?

macbook slim, macbook touch, macbook nano etc.

Steve Jobs came into the office one day wearing an old pair of Nike Air shoes. Ive's noticed and said "Nice shoes Steve, those New Balance shoes were boring. I mean think about it, Macbook Balance ... Lame ... Macbook Air ... that is cool." Steve liked the sound of that and told Ive's, "For making fun of my New Balance shoes I want you, Ives, to make a Macbook Air, and have it ready by MWSF 08!" That is how Macbook Air came to be.

jvillarreal1000
Jan 15, 2008, 07:52 PM
I love how the MacBook Air looks but I'm pretty content with my MacBook. Maybe a few more years when I have the money I'll make the upgrade. Here's a video I found on the MacBook Air, so pretty!!!

http://www.webcastr.com/index.php?option=com_seyret&task=videodirectlink&id=2179

Anonymous Freak
Jan 16, 2008, 02:33 PM
Before the official unveiling, I was tempted. Right now I have a MacBook Pro (original release,) as my primary computer. It's now two years old, and a Core 2 and 802.11n would be nice; but the reveal made it a let-down.

Don't get me wrong, the computer itself is great, it's just extremely obviously not an acceptable replacement for a MacBook Pro. 1.8 GHz is fast, but even a Merom at 1.8 GHz is still slower than my Yonah 2.0 GHz for things like video encoding. 2 GB hard-limit isn't a big deal to me. The hard drive isn't a huge deal, although the 'upgrade fee' for SSD seems a bit exorbitant. The big deal-killer for me is the lack of FireWire. I have 5 external hard drives, and only one has USB on it. Plus, my current and likely next camcorders both are FireWire-only.

My secondary computer is an old eMac, which isn't even nearly acceptable for video editing in the world of H.264, and incapable of HD editing (for my likely next camcorder.) So upgrading the eMac to an iMac looks like the most likely upgrade at this point, although I'll probably wait for a quad-core iMac. Then maybe a MacBook Air to replace my MBP. (I had a 12" PowerBook before the MBP, and really wanted a true 'pro' small notebook, which the 12" PowerBook barely qualified as as it was.)

kainjow
Jan 27, 2008, 05:52 PM
arn, did you end up giving macbookair.com to Apple or are you just redirecting it for them?