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sr5878
Jan 17, 2008, 12:08 PM
hey everybody,

i just spoke with an at&t rep and she told me definitively that iPhones would be allowed on business and corporate accounts as of January 21, 2008.

details:

- same iPhone, no 3G, no 16GB, same price
- requires eligibility (unknown qualifications to me, but supposedly regarding whether or not the company receives discounts), eligibility determined with the 'foundations account number'
- same data plan (UNLIMITED!), rumors of a 5GB cap are false.
- data plan will be more expensive -- $45 for 200txt/unlim data per month
- $25 discount per month promotion starting on the 21st (essentially a promotion to keep the $20 price of the data plan of individual users)
- $25 promotion ends after the 2yr service agreement is up
- no activation fee
- (current at&t customers) no upgrade fee

i am VERY excited... i've been waiting a long time for this. the woman i spoke to told me that her call center had just finished corporate iphone training, so this IS going to happen. i'm surprised there are no rumors about this... oh well.

yay :D



Drumjim85
Jan 17, 2008, 12:13 PM
hope you're right, but rarely is an ATT Rep ever correct about future product or policies

ben5959
Jan 17, 2008, 12:16 PM
hmmmm, sounds great, and it was only a matter of time before this happened, however, due to the society that we live in, and the common occurance of people posting incorrect information, i cannot accept this without some sort of credible evidence. If it is infact true, you are more than welcome to say "i told ya so" haha

sr5878
Jan 17, 2008, 12:27 PM
hope you're right, but rarely is an ATT Rep ever correct about future product or policies

you are more than welcome to call at&t and confirm, if this news really is relevant to you. she told me that theres are 3 call centers, and that she isn't sure if all of them have completed training.

the fact that she gave me specific information regarding price and specific dates gives me absolutely no doubt that she is telling the truth. she has no reason to lie.

im not asking anyone to take my word... i just thought i'd post this to give back to the community that has helped me countless times with my mac and iphone purchasing decision.

Drumjim85
Jan 17, 2008, 12:34 PM
you are more than welcome to call at&t and confirm, if this news really is relevant to you. she told me that theres are 3 call centers, and that she isn't sure if all of them have completed training.

the fact that she gave me specific information regarding price and specific dates gives me absolutely no doubt that she is telling the truth. she has no reason to lie.

im not asking anyone to take my word... i just thought i'd post this to give back to the community that has helped me countless times with my mac and iphone purchasing decision.

No, this information doesn't affect me at all... I've had the phone for awhile now ...

And I'm not saying you're lying or she's lying ... but ATT reps have told us stuff before that has been completely false... whether its on purpose or not ...

sr5878
Jan 17, 2008, 12:38 PM
No, this information doesn't affect me at all... I've had the phone for awhile now ...

And I'm not saying you're lying or she's lying ... but ATT reps have told us stuff before that has been completely false... whether its on purpose or not ...

oh, i completely understand... i've called maybe 8 times in the past two days trying to get a straight answer. some people have no idea, and two refused to give me any information. one guy i talked to said he couldnt give me an exact date, but "very very very soon". i plan to call again today and tomorrow to see if her story stands up.

again, she gave me incredibly specific information regarding this change, and how it would affect my business account. i think it would be incredibly hard to be that misinformed. we shall see.

MacRumors
Jan 17, 2008, 06:21 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

Electronista cites an anonymous source saying that AT&T will begin offering the iPhone to business accounts on January 21st (http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/01/17/iphone..business.accounts/). Among the details includes the continuity of corporate discounts and the requirement of having a data plan at or above $25/month. There will also reportedly be no equipment discounts, and users will be required to pre-activate via iTunes.

Just yesterday there was news that IBM is introducing iPhone compatibility for Lotus Notes (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/01/17/ibm-to-release-lotus-symphony-for-mac-notes-iphone-compatibility/) users, which IBM counts as approximately 135 million.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2008/01/17/atandt-to-offer-iphone-to-business-accounts-january-21st/)

sr5878
Jan 17, 2008, 06:25 PM
just called again and this seems to be confirmed.

sooooo happy right now :D

emccus01
Jan 17, 2008, 06:36 PM
I'm confused as to what the pricing will be. If the data os 45$ then how much is the plan $5.00? Can someone fill me into how the pricing will work?

Plus, it won't make much sense for me, even though my company has the full corporate discount, if it does not have better exchange support.

dacreativeguy
Jan 17, 2008, 06:36 PM
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perhaps I am missing something but the 'deal' you describe doesn't sound like much. Aside from free activation, it looks like the fees are exactly the same after the data overcharge and discount. Why do you think these terms are so special?

I signed up for service under my corporate discount which is 15 or 20% off per month. This discount has been available since day one afaik.

emccus01
Jan 17, 2008, 06:44 PM
I agree with the above post. Our company has the same discount on individual plans and family plans. If I want the phone it would just be the added 20 for data. Paying 45 or even 25 without any added benefits is pointless. I really want the phone to be discounted.

This makes very little sense.

sr5878
Jan 17, 2008, 07:21 PM
according to the rep the $25 discount is only for a very short time... after the promotion is over data will be $45.

i dont know the deal with corporate accounts. all i know is that right now i would be unable to activate an iphone under my father's small business account. on monday, i will.

i didnt make up the terms i'm just reporting what i've heard ;)

i called the 800 number to find this out... if you really want verification, call them! :)

Grimace
Jan 17, 2008, 09:16 PM
doesn't make much sense.

Everyone els = XYZ Minutes ($59, etc.) + $20 unlimited data.

But now you'll have to have $25 or more in data? What is 125% of "unlimited"? :confused:

sr5878
Jan 17, 2008, 09:46 PM
doesn't make much sense.

Everyone els = XYZ Minutes ($59, etc.) + $20 unlimited data.

But now you'll have to have $25 or more in data? What is 125% of "unlimited"? :confused:

im sure apple is doing it to circumvent enterprise discounts. it's all about the money, remember?

lakhoon
Jan 18, 2008, 12:59 AM
I called a couple of local AT&T stores and the corporate AT&T reps. I heard the same thing as well. Discounts for corporate/business accounts only, no individual accounts.

I am an existing AT&T member and here is a way I continued my discounts since I have a family plan. I'm sure it will work for new customers who sign up on the family plan.

My phone number was the primary line and my wife was the secondary line ($9.99 for adding an additional line). I changed my phone number as the secondary line and moved my wife's number as the primary. That way, the discounts are taken off the primary number. Basically, the only thing I pay is the $9.99 +$20 data package with taxes. A way to continue the existing discounts.

bbkj1211
Jan 18, 2008, 01:05 AM
The business I work for has an AT&T account and we have been bugging them about iPhone's release for business accounts since it was released. Finally, with news of the supposed release next week, our CEO went into the store and talked to our business account manager. He told me that the manager showed him a memo stating that iPhone's business plan included a Summer roll-out. Not only this, but that the business account must have more than 100 phones enrolled.

This leads me to believe that Apple is waiting for a 3G iPhone release before making it an option for business/corporate accounts.

I hope this is not true, but this came straight from our AT&T store yesterday afternoon.

sr5878
Jan 18, 2008, 08:58 AM
Not only this, but that the business account must have more than 100 phones enrolled.

i believe your instore rep is misinformed. i just called right now and the customer service rep told me that activating an iphone would be 'no problem at all' on my account (which is an additional line on a business plan with only 4 lines total).

aricher
Jan 18, 2008, 09:31 AM
apple better have full exchange integration if they want this to fly. My IT dept still won't let their servers play with iPhone.

emccus01
Jan 18, 2008, 11:01 AM
apple better have full exchange integration if they want this to fly. My IT dept still won't let their servers play with iPhone.

Same here. They need to do this right if they are to compete fully with blackberry. I want this to work.

rjohnstone
Jan 18, 2008, 11:08 AM
apple better have full exchange integration if they want this to fly. My IT dept still won't let their servers play with iPhone.
1.1.3 has Exchange listed under "Other" as a supported mail service.
You must enable IMAP support on your Exchange server.

You need IMAP enabled for Blackberry access, so I don't see why your IT guys would not enable IMAP support for iPhone access.

DiamondMac
Jan 18, 2008, 11:14 AM
apple better have full exchange integration if they want this to fly. My IT dept still won't let their servers play with iPhone.

Amen. This is a good step but before my business or many others go towards this they have a lot more things (such as this) that will NEED to be done

emccus01
Jan 18, 2008, 11:42 AM
1.1.3 has Exchange listed under "Other" as a supported mail service.
You must enable IMAP support on your Exchange server.

You need IMAP enabled for Blackberry access, so I don't see why your IT guys would not enable IMAP support for iPhone access.

Companies, such as mine which is a major financial organization, do not want to enable imap on the device. They use the blackberry servers now and do so because it is very secure. They do not trust the iphone yet as it is a new device. If they enabled imap anyone could forward our mail to outside mail accounts e.g. gmail. And by no means do they want us doing that. They even blocked forwarding on ms outlook. I can't even make an automated rule to send emails to my gmail account. They are very very tight with their security.

rjohnstone
Jan 18, 2008, 12:47 PM
Companies, such as mine which is a major financial organization, do not want to enable imap on the device. They use the blackberry servers now and do so because it is very secure. They do not trust the iphone yet as it is a new device. If they enabled imap anyone could forward our mail to outside mail accounts e.g. gmail. And by no means do they want us doing that. They even blocked forwarding on ms outlook. I can't even make an automated rule to send emails to my gmail account. They are very very tight with their security.
Understandable.
And in that case, yes, I can see where it can be an issue.

aricher
Jan 18, 2008, 01:16 PM
exactly. imap is a serious security issue for my company.

michaelsviews
Jan 18, 2008, 03:16 PM
I still don't see anything from them on the tethering part yet? Also 3G models are do out in a few months.

Wait till some corporate / business customer tethers and gets a HUGE bill

the1payday
Jan 19, 2008, 12:42 AM
Does the data plan on a business account cover all of the phones on it, or only one phone? Also, does anyone know...if you were to get an iPhone on a business account, do you have to get a minute plan and data plan for that phone, or can you just share iPhone minutes out of the "pool" with the others on the plan, and just get the data plan for it?

sr5878
Jan 19, 2008, 09:43 AM
Does the data plan on a business account cover all of the phones on it, or only one phone? Also, does anyone know...if you were to get an iPhone on a business account, do you have to get a minute plan and data plan for that phone, or can you just share iPhone minutes out of the "pool" with the others on the plan, and just get the data plan for it?

if you call at&t im sure you can ask.

i doubt it'd matter with data because the package will still be unlimited data.

as for minutes, i'm an additional (9.99/mo) line on my father's business account and we pool our minutes... the few people i talked to on the phone said that my account specifically would be able to use the phone so i'd assume that wouldnt change.

jt2ga65
Jan 20, 2008, 02:47 PM
apple better have full exchange integration if they want this to fly. My IT dept still won't let their servers play with iPhone.

Not all phones on the business accounts at corporations have any capibility to connect to exchange servers, and not all of them are billed to the company. 95% of the phones my company's employees have are under the corporate business agreement (sometimes called foundation), and have no corporate email and are paid for by the employees themselves. Some of us expense out phones, some have phones that are owned and billed to the company. The advantage of the business/foundation plan is that it saves anywhere between 15 and 30% off of the monthly services. I was hoping that AT&T would enable the discount for iPhone plans, as I'm paying an extra 26% to have my iPhone without the discount.

exactly. imap is a serious security issue for my company.

It's not about security, but more about information control. Some companies wish or need, either by internal policy or by financial regulation, to control the information. There is nothing more insecure about imap technology than exchange.

-jt2

Kenal0
Jan 20, 2008, 04:38 PM
I have premier small business account.We have one FAN and one BAN on the account with 7 phones. All I want is to use my iphone on account with the pooled minutes and if I have to pay for the data plan, that is fine. Even, no discount is okay. Any idea if this will be possible?
Kenal0

emccus01
Jan 20, 2008, 05:32 PM
Not all phones on the business accounts at corporations have any capibility to connect to exchange servers, and not all of them are billed to the company. 95% of the phones my company's employees have are under the corporate business agreement (sometimes called foundation), and have no corporate email and are paid for by the employees themselves. Some of us expense out phones, some have phones that are owned and billed to the company. The advantage of the business/foundation plan is that it saves anywhere between 15 and 30% off of the monthly services. I was hoping that AT&T would enable the discount for iPhone plans, as I'm paying an extra 26% to have my iPhone without the discount.



It's not about security, but more about information control. Some companies wish or need, either by internal policy or by financial regulation, to control the information. There is nothing more insecure about imap technology than exchange.

-jt2


These are both true, but for someone who is caught between buying the iphone and a blackberry it is a pivotal point for myself. I can't shell out money for 2 phones. I also have verizon and the top 8 people I call all have verizon. I need the iphone to support exchange to justify myself converting my family over to att and thus buying the iphone.

brentg33
Jan 21, 2008, 09:18 AM
this would be great news....i do have a question, i have had my iphone for a few months now and when i got it and activated it, i enrolled it with my companies discount plan with at&t. everytime i check my account status online with at&t, i have my company discount code up on the top right of the screen under my name and stuff...however, no discounts have been applied. If this is true, will i just start getting a discount, or willl i need to call at&t?
thanks
brent

attadj
Jan 21, 2008, 09:37 PM
I've got two phones on business plan, both had the discount before I switched to the iphone. Now only the non-iphone has the discount. I checked the account screen today and the Iphone still shows no discounts. I don't think they will simply change all their accounts. Plus with what's being reported, I don't think we want to switch to the Business plan, looks way overpriced. I just want the discount off our base rate like I have with my other phone. I can't see that happening with this listed below.

2 year commitment, voice service, and data plan required

$45 per month for unlimited data, visual voicemail, and 200 SMSes; $55 ups the SMS limit to 1,500; $65 for unlimited everything
An extra $25 per month nabs a 20MB monthly data plan good for 29 countries, $60 per month ups the limit to 50MB

Activate by 31 March and qualified accounts will receive a service credit of $25 per month good through 31 December, 2008 -- yeah, that's a sweet deal

bpeikes
Jan 22, 2008, 12:50 PM
I have an iPhone, and I'm moderately happy, but the biggest issues I have as a "power" user are:
1) No contact search
2) No contact categories, and no I don't want groups, which supposedly work if you have folders in outlook
3) No support for multiple calendars
4) No ToDo
5) No synch of Notes with Outlook

As a business, why would you want to outfit your company with phones that were obviously made to sell songs and videos to kids, instead of a phone that has features that enhance your business. If adult usage was important to Apple, they would have contact search before "dancing icons" you can't really arrange.

erch63
Jan 22, 2008, 01:10 PM
Has anyone been able to get this done with AT&T yet? I am dying to find out if this is true.