Predictions for MWNY!

[jermsmingy]

Here are my predictions for Macworld NewYork

G4 Tower
1.2. ghz
faster system bus somewhere in the neighbor hood of 266mhz
ddr ram
bluetooth

Powerbooks ( I don't think that we will see them till NewYork)
800mhz to 933mhz
faster system bus somewhere in the neighbor hood of 266mhz
ddr ram
bluetooth
64mb graphics card
better battery
higher screen resolution

iMac g4
no updates

iMac classic
speed bumps to 700mhz g3

iBook
speed bumps to 700mhz g3
with a combo drive (maybe)
I really doubt that we will see a bigger screen.

[Ensign Paris]

Personally I think its a bit early for predictions (we need to get WWDC out of the way first!

I doubt will see combo drives in the iBook due to the fact we already have them and we have also already got the larger screen.

I would expect to see 700 G3 iMacs because we have had them before and I just think we will see them again.

I hope we get G4 iMac updates! (1ghz all the way, please?)

Ensign

[AlphaTech]

I'd like to see faster towers (even faster then the 1.2GHz, how about 1.4+?) as well as PowerBooks with a healthy speed bump. If the towers get the extra umpf in speed, they could really sell the PowerBooks at up to 1GHz. How many of us would go even deeper into debt to get one of those??? Count me as one of them.

DDR should be either inside systems, or at least announced as coming in x months.

How about the bluetooth as an BTO option??? I have 0 need/use for it currently, just like a modem in a tower.

Give us either the option/ability to get more screen resolution on the PowerBooks, and/or a screen size increase. With the peecee laptops coming out at 16" (a couple a little larger??) we should get a bump to 16.2" to 16.5" maybe even 17" but still maintain the same proportions. I wouldn't mind getting a new bag to carry my über TiBook, if I could get the peecee laptop buttheads to shut up again with a larger screen. :D

Keep it at the 1" form factor though, and PLEASE hard chrome that puppy. :D

[jermsmingy]

Switch my predictions on the imac classic and the ibook
I mean for the imac classic to get a combo drive
The iBook will get a speed bump to 700mhz

[mmmdreg]

ensign's right...wait at least until after WWDC for speculation...but you could always compile a wish list now..

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Ensign Paris
Personally I think its a bit early for predictions (we need to get WWDC out of the way first!


I've been saying this for over a week! Besides, you haven't even considered the rumors on the new TiPB coming out on the 30th of April. I can't see a another update in MWNY that would have a mobo redesign (for the system bus and ddr ram), it would be too soon.

[Backtothemac]

Here is what is coming.

April 30th....
New TiBook's. 867 and 700 MHZ G4's. DDR in the 867 and PC 133 in the 700's. Combo drives standard, and superdrives an option in the 867 through BTO. 40 gig standardard in 867, and 60 gig optional 30 in the 700's. Screen resolution will increase, although the size will remain the same. NO BUILT IN BLUETOOTH! Everyone is talking about that, but it won't happen.

WWDC....
X.2 preview, with a launch date for NY. News on QT6. No hardware will be released.

MWNY...
New G4's.
1, 1.2 and 1.4 GHZ.
1 GHZ pc 133. 1.2 and 1.4 DDR at 266MHZ.
256, 512, and 768megs
1 GHZ supports 1.5 GB and the 1.2 and 1.4 support 4 gigs
Rapid I/O
Built-in Bluetooth controler.
60, 80, and 120GB drives.
Combo drive, super and super. Super an option on the entry system.
ATI Radeon 8500 on 1ghz, and GeForce 4 Ti on high ends

New digital device
Not a camera though.

iMac...
No changes

iBook...
750 and 850 MHZ G3's.
20 and 30 Gig HD
256 and 256 exp to 640 MB
CDRW and Combo drives. CD option only for education models.
12.1 and 14.1 obviously

iPhoto 1.1 or 2.0 call it what you want.

iMovie 3 ? possible, but maybe later.

X.2 and all of the normal stats and hubub.

[AlphaTech]

Backtothemac, pretty good predictions. Now we get to wait and see who's comes closest to being true. :D

I'm still rooting for a GHz PowerBook though. :D

[mmmdreg]

Backtothemac...pretty detailed and possible predictions there...but I can't really see Apple putting different types of RAM in different models of the same series...and weren't people saying the superdrive won't fit in a TiBook without whole new dimensions which will probably result in a whole new case design, if so, maybe making the PowerBook a TiBook no more...

[Backtothemac]

I would roll over and beg (my wife that is) for a 1GHZ powerbook :D

I hope those run accurate. If not, then I have a person to hunt down and cane!

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by mmmdreg
Backtothemac...pretty detailed and possible predictions there...but I can't really see Apple putting different types of RAM in different models of the same series...and weren't people saying the superdrive won't fit in a TiBook without whole new dimensions which will probably result in a whole new case design, if so, maybe making the PowerBook a TiBook no more...

Well, I agree that Apple has really never had two differnet types of Ram in one series before. But they have had two different logic boards before. Look at the new iBooks. One is 66 MHZ and the other is 100 MHZ. It is the same situation with the new G4's. One is the current standard, and the other is the future.

Also,
Prices on the 1 GHZ will be 1 either 1449 or 1499.
1.2 will be 2399
1.4 will be 3099

As for the TiBook.... Don't believe the hype ;) IE: They can do anything they want to with the CURRENT case design.

[cb911]

i'd like to see towers faster than 1.2GHz, and i also think that the new TiBooks will be out on the 30th of April. at least we don't have to wait for them, even though it is only a small speed increase.

[Ensign Paris]

Apple have sold the G4 with different mother boards (350mhz g4 and he 400 + 500mhz models)

Ensign

[MacAztec]

PowerMac G4:

1067MHz, DDR Ram, 60GB HD, Rapid I/O
Dual 1200MHz, DDR Ram, 2x80GB HD, Rapid I/O
1400MHz, DDR Ram, 100-12GB HD, Rapid I/o

PowerBook G4:

867MHz, DDR Ram, 30GB HD, Combo
1000MHZ, DDR Ram, 60GB HD, Combo
New 32MB DDR Graphics

iBook:

600MHz G3, 20GB HD, Combo
700MHz G3, 30GB HD, Combo
New 16MB DDR Graphics
Optional 14in Screen

iMac:

No new updates

[Catfish_Man]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
Here is what is coming.

April 30th....
New TiBook's. 867 and 700 MHZ G4's. DDR in the 867 and PC 133 in the 700's. Combo drives standard, and superdrives an option in the 867 through BTO. 40 gig standardard in 867, and 60 gig optional 30 in the 700's. Screen resolution will increase, although the size will remain the same. NO BUILT IN BLUETOOTH! Everyone is talking about that, but it won't happen.


Which chip does motorola make that supports DDR and maxes out at 867MHz? None that I know of (and I've done quite a bit of research on it). However, there is one that uses very little power, maxes out at 800MHz, and doesn't have DDR. I think that's more likely.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Catfish_Man


Which chip does motorola make that supports DDR and maxes out at 867MHz? None that I know of (and I've done quite a bit of research on it). However, there is one that uses very little power, maxes out at 800MHz, and doesn't have DDR. I think that's more likely.

Maybe the reason we haven't seen any huge speed increases on the G4 (from one release to the next), is because they are creating chips that will be able to use DDR RAM. Wouldn't that be great??? They could even brag about it... 'yes, we haven't been increasing the speeds of the G4 processors lately. But, as you now see, we have been dedicating more resources to getting the new G4's at 1.07, 1.2 and 1.4 GHz with full support of up to 3GB of DDR RAM (PC3300)' That would be good way for motorola to start getting back into the Mac faithful's good graces. The only real way for people to stop b*tching about motorola (not without reason) is for them to get off their thumbs and put out the G5 processors (at over 1.4GHz). :D

[Kethoticus]

If the past is a pattern to be followed...

MT (low-end):

933MHz G4
60GB HD
Superdrive (optional)
256MB 133MHz SD-RAM
Radeon 7500
IEEE1394b
OS X 10.2

MT (mid-range):

1GHz G4
80GH HD
Superdrive (standard)
512MB DDR-RAM (maybe maybe maybe)
Geforce4 MX
IEEE1394b
OS X 10.2

MT (high-end):

Dual 1.2GHz G4
80GB HD
Superdrive (gotta think that by July there'll be an upgraded version, either being faster or supporting higher-capacity DVDs, and it might only see the high end of Apple's line)
512MB DDR-RAM (again, maybe 3x)
Geforce4 MX
IEEE1394b
OS X 10.2

iMac: Possibly some incremental improvements, like 100MHz clock speed increases, IEEE1394b in the highest end model, 40-60GB HDs in the line, GF4 MXs, maybe even a new color scheme (although I highly doubt this).

Tibook: No upgrades (I expect it to be upgraded sooner, but not by anything that comes anywhere near Dell's new 1.8GHz P4 laptop).

iBook: Same as above, upgrades being made sometime this spring.

Overall, if I am right, nothing terribly exciting. I do expect to eventually see serious architectural improvements, but not necessarily this summer.

[TyleRomeo]

good call Kethoticus, i think you've made some good predictions but i seriously think the superdrive needs an upgrade. its not that super anymore. having it burn cds and dvds at twice the current speed would be nice and possibly supporting up to DVD-10.

[jermsmingy]

I made the prediction that we won't see the Powerbook till mwny because I think that the next revision will support ddr ram and I don't think that they will let the powerbook support ddr ram before the powermac.

[mcrain]

I predict an annoucement that the G3 and G4 are being retired followed by an annoucement that the G5 will be in all the iMacs and iBooks and the NEW G6 will be in the pro lineups. Speeds will be ridiculous. Shortly thereafter, Bill Gates will come out and do the keynote as he is the new owner of Apple (in the spirit of M$'s love of competition).

:D

[SPG]

I wouldn't be surprised to see the next tiBook be an intermediate machine, introducing some of the next "all new powerbook" features while still using the currently possible processors, ie: 800mhz G4. This would be a decent stopgap and a very robust machine, but ultimately would be laying the groundwork for an all new G5 based killer laptop sometime in the winter of '03.

[mcrain]

I certainly don't want an intermediate machine.

When you haven't seen someone for a while, and they have changed, you really notice those changes. On the other hand, if you live with someone, they could slowly turn into Yoda, and you probably wouldn't notice.

This slow changing and morphing into something else is fine for the slow evolution of a model, but I think the TiBook is ready for something more major than that. The iMac is fresh, the iBook is still pretty fresh (especially since it has the 14" now), but the TiBook and the tower are getting rather stale and in need of something.

Sure, they are fine machines, and I'd be happy if they were made better, but I'd be even happier if they were really overhauled and made into something "NEW."

[AlphaTech]

mcrain, over a year and only minor revisions to show for it kind of blows. More speed, better video card, screen resolutions.... and chrome finish are high on the list of new feature wishes.

I wonder which we will see first... Faster CPU, better video and a chrome finish are my top three items.

[SPG]

Everyone wants to see a new laptop, especially Apple. The problem is that all the components and chips haven't been developed yet. Once the new powerbook is ready it will be introduced, until then we will keep getting baby step revisions. Some of these baby steps are more important than others, simple speed bump of a 100mhz? not too important. New MOBO and I/O architecture with DDR? very important step. The ti may very well morph right up until the only thing seperating it from the all new powerbook will be a G5 chip and a different skin.

[bobindashadows]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
Here is what is coming.

April 30th....
New TiBook's. 867 and 700 MHZ G4's. DDR in the 867 and PC 133 in the 700's. Combo drives standard, and superdrives an option in the 867 through BTO. 40 gig standardard in 867, and 60 gig optional 30 in the 700's. Screen resolution will increase, although the size will remain the same. NO BUILT IN BLUETOOTH! Everyone is talking about that, but it won't happen.

WWDC....
X.2 preview, with a launch date for NY. News on QT6. No hardware will be released.

MWNY...
New G4's.
1, 1.2 and 1.4 GHZ.
1 GHZ pc 133. 1.2 and 1.4 DDR at 266MHZ.
256, 512, and 768megs
1 GHZ supports 1.5 GB and the 1.2 and 1.4 support 4 gigs
Rapid I/O
Built-in Bluetooth controler.
60, 80, and 120GB drives.
Combo drive, super and super. Super an option on the entry system.
ATI Radeon 8500 on 1ghz, and GeForce 4 Ti on high ends

New digital device
Not a camera though.

iMac...
No changes

iBook...
750 and 850 MHZ G3's.
20 and 30 Gig HD
256 and 256 exp to 640 MB
CDRW and Combo drives. CD option only for education models.
12.1 and 14.1 obviously

iPhoto 1.1 or 2.0 call it what you want.

iMovie 3 ? possible, but maybe later.

X.2 and all of the normal stats and hubub.

Looks pretty good and on the money, but I doubt we're going to see Rapid I/O on the G4's, since it looks like from Motorola's PPC road map that's going to be an implementation of the G5 series. Maybe if we see a complete reversal of LCD prices the iMac's will drop back down in price. :D

[imamacguy17]

i said this back in december last year prior to apple starting the hype. i said this is the year of the mac.
predictions
1) DOJ and microsoft will cut a deal.
Microsoft will be forced to pay a 1 billion dollar fine.
Microsoft will buy brand new macs worth 1 billion dollars (for the next 5 years) for underprivalleged school
Microsoft will provide office for mac with same functions (programs) as its windows conterpart.
Microsoft must comit to the mac for the next 5 years
After the five years are up microsoft must meet with the DOJ and prove that its monopolistic ways are over and have been. if not fines and purchases will be continued for another 5 years.
Microsoft must also make its operating system affordable.

2) flat panel imac (we already saw this one but here are my MWNY ideas)
speeds 800, 900, 1 GHZ
full sized ram
bigger hard drive
blue tooth
bto wireless keyboard and mouse
prices drop back to 1299, 1499, 1799

3) G5s
we will see the G5 at MWNY we will finally see ddr, we will see the faster bus probably 266 but maybe 333 or 400 (not likely) speeds of 1.4, 1.5, 1.6 GHZ (while this is still 1.0 gig a way MWSF will provide even more jumps probably 1.6, 1.7, 1.8) where p4 only gets to 3 GHZ we will see standard minimum 256 ram capable of holding 4 gigs. this will also support bluetooth standard wireless keyboard and mouse. wireless promouse optional (two buttoned) at this time we will also see a new case design (same principle of easy acess but closer to the new apple look)

4)ipod price drops
299 10 gig version
399 20 gig version

5) product matrix shift
we will see the low end grow (imac classic)
ibook prices drop 999,1199,1499 respectively

middle of the road
imac G4
Macintosh Pad

high end
Power Mac G5
Tibook 800, 933

6) the Macintosh Pad
this is my dream machine its 8.5 x 11 like a sheet of notebook paper. a 700 mhz G4 256 ram a combo drive adc out conection ipod style battery and a beautiful 13" screen. The premise of the pad is you take a powermac G4, a Tibook, a newton, and Powerbook Duo dock and throw them in a blender. You get the pad. This computer resembles a giant PDA. It has the handwriting recognizition that apple has been perfecting. When at your desk it sits in a little craddle dock that resembles the studio display (slightly thicker) the dock itself houses permanant power, one PCI slot, and airport base station. the pad can then be used as a desktop machine. when you go to board meetings you take the pad in with you and just write notes. none of this graffiti crap. you double tap apple works, open a new writing document (not word processing, writing document) and start writing. when its your turn for the presentation just plug the projector in. when you want to show your boss the ad you've been working on uncraddle the machine walk into his office and show him. He tells you he wants the sky to be overcast. well make it over cast and find out what he thinks. this machine will cut down on paper waste, time waste, email waste and everything else that goes along with havinging to sync three machines (desktop,pda, notebook) everyone will want one of these.

7) Servers
we will see a modified G4 server that is basically a double wide powermac. it will have the internal raid on one side and the powermac on the other. this will continue to use the g4 as long as possible.

we will see another new addition to the server line with a rack mounting design. im thinking something along the effect of the cube.

8) software out the wazoo.
imovie 3
itunes 3
iphoto 2
mac os 10.2
mac os 9.5
quicktime 6
Appleworks 6.5
education stuff
business stuff

9) oh and one more thing
ipod has a new friend the icam

and finally number 10 prediction
apple will sell a record 2 million machines in q2 and 6 for the year
pushing its market share from 4 percent to nearly 6 percent.

this is the year of the mac folks we have much to see yet and apple will do it you will see.

[iGav]

After Apple recent form this year of releasing things on the sly..... I think it really throws the cat amongst the pigeons now doesn't it.....

Powermacs are definite....... just what kind are they going to be.......?

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :eek: :eek: :eek: the excitement......

[ericb88]

this is what will happen, i am sure of it my genuis has used all posts on 3 forums i have looked at over the last 3 months and apples product line to make these predictions all of which will prove to be true.
By upgrading the tibooks apple leaves room for a ibook with a G4 to come, but not compete with the tibook for the time being. Drool over whatever specs you wish, but it will most likely be 400 and 500 or 450 and 550 mhz. it will offer bus speeds of 100 or 133 i really don't know. and will offer a 16 or 32 mb graphics card, it is total assumption as to which. (most likely the 32 though) the high end wil offer standard airport card.

With the G3 being dead, apple moves onto the G5 in the powermacs. Beleive whatever specs you wish, but it should be from the 1-1.6 ghz range support ddr, and have bus speeds of over 300mhz.
The tibook will go unchanged, maybe the lowend will get standard airport card or there will be something with bluetooth although that is unlikely.
The imac will go unchanged, a slight possibilty of a minimal increase in speed and the odds of a 17inch is 99-1.
The emac will finally go on sale to the public if it hasn't already.
The ipod may have a price decrease, or a rebate program. no other changes on the ipod.
Good chance of 10.2, unless 10.1.5 hasn't come out yet.
30% possibilty of another handheld device that looks really cool.
MWSF will bring the tibook G5 unless it is realeased some time between july and january. MWNW 2003 will probably bring something cool that was unexpected and some time between now and then the ipod will change in some way. MWSF 2004 will bring os11 which will be absolutely by far the best operating system known to man.By the time os12 is realesed apple will control 15-20% of the market.
isn't that cool?

[mmmdreg]

imamacguy17: Isn't that slightly optimistic there? but it is worth dreaming for..

[cb911]

does anyone think we'll see 1GHz TiBooks at MWNY? i know it's a bit soon after the 800MHz, but you never know with Apple.

[gambit]

Hey erricb88 read my thread called G3s all gone:eek:! It turned into a war zome bcuz every 1 was flamin each other!

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by gambit
Hey erricb88 read my thread called G3s all gone:eek:! It turned into a war zome bcuz every 1 was flamin each other!

Oh yeah!!!! Feel the BURN!!!! LOL

[ericb88]

Originally posted by gambit
Hey erricb88 read my thread called G3s all gone! It turned into a war zome bcuz every 1 was flamin each other!
where is it under?

[mcrain]

Originally posted by imamacguy17
1) DOJ and microsoft will cut a deal.
Microsoft will be forced to pay a 1 billion dollar fine.
Microsoft will buy brand new macs worth 1 billion dollars (for the next 5 years) for underprivalleged school
Microsoft will provide office for mac with same functions (programs) as its windows conterpart.
Microsoft must comit to the mac for the next 5 years
After the five years are up microsoft must meet with the DOJ and prove that its monopolistic ways are over and have been. if not fines and purchases will be continued for another 5 years.
Microsoft must also make its operating system affordable.


Unfortunately, Courts are very reluctant to enter orders in which the Court, or worse, someone else, is "babysitting" a defendant. For example, a court won't enter an order requiring a defendant to build a house, but will enter an order requiring a defendant to immediately pay a plaintiff the value of a new house.

The reason for this is because (other than family and child law), Courts want cases to be resolved.

If the Court required M$ to do anything in the future, it is setting itself up in an oversight role, which is unlikely.

Devil's advocate: On the other hand, an order requiring that certain things be done on or before certain dates is enforceable through contempt proceedings. Should the actions be met on or before the target dates, then there is resolution.

The only limiting factor there is whether the DOJ wants to oversee M$'s conduct in the future.

[gambit]

:confused: AlphaTech proabably remembers.:confused: