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Sweetbike40
Feb 3, 2008, 03:06 PM
I've posted comments on how i thought the MBA was beautiful based on photos. I just came back from the Apple store and i have to say i was not impressed. I'm sorry, it's my opinion but i think it looks cheap. Anyone who would pay $3000 for this is crazy. Looking at, it looks worth about 700-800. After playing with it then looking at the MBP.... the 15" MBP is 1000 time more beautiful and so much more worth the money. I'd caution anyone who has ordered it without seeing it.



camarobh
Feb 3, 2008, 03:36 PM
I've posted comments on how i thought the MBA was beautiful based on photos. I just came back from the Apple store and i have to say i was not impressed. I'm sorry, it's my opinion but i think it looks cheap. Anyone who would pay $3000 for this is crazy. Looking at, it looks worth about 700-800. After playing with it then looking at the MBP.... the 15" MBP is 1000 time more beautiful and so much more worth the money. I'd caution anyone who has ordered it without seeing it.

Couldn't disagree more. I decided not to order one until I had held it in my own two hands. Did just that the other night. The MBA is an engineering marvel. Granted, it's not a desktop replacement, but for my purposes, to fit nicely in between my iPhone and iMac, it is perfect. I don't know how you can look at a MBA and not see the beauty of the design.

Airforce
Feb 3, 2008, 03:38 PM
The MBA is an engineering marvel

The hell? It's a shrunken chip and minus an optical drive/firewire/ethernet/ect.

Engineering marvel? :rolleyes:

Hankster
Feb 3, 2008, 03:44 PM
$3000? It's $1700. Also, it's only worth it based on your needs. Not every laptop is developed and designed for everyone. Each model has their place. MBA would never find a home in my house, but that's just because I have no need for what it offers. It doesn't mean it's not a good computer for someone else.

whenders0n
Feb 3, 2008, 03:45 PM
The hell? It's a shrunken chip and minus an optical drive/firewire/ethernet/ect.

Engineering marvel? :rolleyes:

ok that's a little disingenuous.

Sweetbike40
Feb 3, 2008, 04:17 PM
Even at the base price of 1799 it's too much. It looked like plastic to me. and yes, it has it's use, i understand the purpose of it and don't knock it for that.... i just think Apple is charging way too much. I'm done with this argument... i just think i should give a heads up to people that may have ordered it. You may want to see it in the store first. So be it if your happy. Enjoy.

Cybergypsy
Feb 3, 2008, 04:18 PM
Even at the base price of 1799 it's too much. It looked like plastic to me. and yes, it has it's use, i understand the purpose of it and don't knock it for that.... i just think Apple is charging way too much. I'm done with this argument... i just think i should give a heads up to people that may have ordered it. You may want to see it in the store first. So be it if your happy. Enjoy.Funny I feel the same about the MBP, move on...

richard371
Feb 3, 2008, 04:53 PM
Remember people its form first. Buy it because its sexy and looks cool not for power or practicality.


Funny I feel the same about the MBP, move on...

aiongiant
Feb 3, 2008, 05:36 PM
Even at the base price of 1799 it's too much. It looked like plastic to me. and yes, it has it's use, i understand the purpose of it and don't knock it for that.... i just think Apple is charging way too much. I'm done with this argument... i just think i should give a heads up to people that may have ordered it. You may want to see it in the store first. So be it if your happy. Enjoy.

fair enough
everyone has thiere opinions

i however love the air hehe and can't wait for mine to get deliver =)

and concerning the price.. obvious i would like it cheaper
however the key word here is "Apple" it's pretty and almost non existent to see an Apple product to be considered "cheap" or "cheaper"

drchipinski
Feb 3, 2008, 05:50 PM
It is a great looking, lightweight machine. It is an incredible tool for the traveler. Do I think it is overpriced...YES. Could I perhaps get one...YES.

HLdan
Feb 3, 2008, 06:06 PM
Even at the base price of 1799 it's too much. It looked like plastic to me. and yes, it has it's use, i understand the purpose of it and don't knock it for that.... i just think Apple is charging way too much. I'm done with this argument... i just think i should give a heads up to people that may have ordered it. You may want to see it in the store first. So be it if your happy. Enjoy.

I already saw it at Macworld and my conclusion is you have bad eyes and don't recognize quality. The fit and finish is better on the AIR than any of Apple's notebooks.

Sesshi
Feb 3, 2008, 06:08 PM
ok that's a little disingenuous.

Not really. A Sony TZ is an engineering marvel, relatively speaking. An Air is merely a marvel of marketing combined with the best that Apple can do in terms of shrinkage. They've taken the usual Apple 'smoke & mirrors' approach, this time making the machine look razer-thin by sticking with an almost-normal-laptop area. A true subnotebook with the same vertical dimensions wouldn't look as thin to the eye.

However it has a use for us business types who doesn't need the power of an MBP but likes to carry lighter stuff. To my Windows eye it's a bit crap, but it's the only choice I have for a truly portable OS X machine. I also think it's the prettiest Apple laptop out there, but that is subjective, and subject to review after I've used the Airs for a while.

NC MacGuy
Feb 3, 2008, 06:11 PM
Power Mac G5 4GB iPod Mini 1GB Nano-White 16 GB iPod Touch Mac Book Pro 2.4 17"HD 7200

"and everyone knows iPod mini is for girls..."

To each his own. I have both and they both have their places.

squeeks
Feb 3, 2008, 06:20 PM
i too just went to the apple store last night and saw my first macbook air, ive been against it from its announcement..and for the price i still am, but geeze that thing is LIGHT, i guess if you've got the money, go for it...im not getting one but, yeah

Alfadoc
Feb 3, 2008, 06:29 PM
I'm done with this argument... So be it if your happy. Enjoy.

Good. Don't like it, don't buy it!

A lot of people think a Ferrari's not worth it, but enough do...

I can't wait to enjoy mine! :)

NC MacGuy
Feb 3, 2008, 06:33 PM
Good. Don't like it, don't buy it!

A lot of people think a Ferrari's not worth it, but enough do...

I can't wait to enjoy mine! :)

Here, here!! They are sweet machines & if it's what you want and you have the money, buy it - but not at Southpoint or Crabtree today anyways...

Alfadoc
Feb 3, 2008, 06:39 PM
Here, here!! They are sweet machines & if it's what you want and you have the money, buy it - but not at Southpoint or Crabtree today anyways...

I agree with you on your SP/Crabtree CS comparison. I'm headed to SouthPark to play with one. Mine's already landed at RDU, so it'll be delivered by the time I get back from my Charlotte business trip.

richard371
Feb 3, 2008, 06:42 PM
Only time will tell the quality as right now it is perceived because of the metal constriction. Aluminum is a soft metal and the air is thin. It does bug me that people are getting them and they "some" rock a little bit on a table. Almost like it is warped. Should be easy to fix. Just open and it carefully twist the case a bit until it sits flat :) kidding.

I may get one a month or 2 down the road once the test of time shows the true quality of these things. In the meantime if you got one or are getting one just enjoy it

NC MacGuy
Feb 3, 2008, 06:43 PM
I agree with you on your SP/Crabtree CS comparison. I'm headed to SouthPark to play with one. Mine's already landed at RDU, so it'll be delivered by the time I get back from my Charlotte business trip.

Southpoint has some on display. I was lucky enough to score an over priced POS on Friday and I LOVE IT!! You'll have something to look forward to when you return. They are sweet.

I'll be taking mine on its first trips this week. It sure will be a pleasure sticking its lightness through security.

pscoble
Feb 3, 2008, 06:44 PM
When I saw it at MacWorld I thought it was an amazing design. I personally wanted one however it lacks too much of what I need with my MacBook Pro and iMac.

Melkor
Feb 3, 2008, 06:45 PM
I can't wait to try out one of those bad boys. I could be tempted...

NC MacGuy
Feb 3, 2008, 06:48 PM
I can't wait to try out one of those bad boys. I could be tempted...

If you haven't bit on your PB replacement with the MBP or MB yet I think you truly will be tempted. They are awesome & if it's what you need, you'll know it.

cohibadad
Feb 3, 2008, 06:48 PM
15" MBP is 1000 time more beautiful and so much more worth the money. I'd caution anyone who has ordered it without seeing it.

I'm gonna have to look at my MBP again. Didn't realize it was that beautiful.

NC MacGuy
Feb 3, 2008, 06:55 PM
I'm gonna have to look at my MBP again. Didn't realize it was that beautiful.

IMHO:
They were when they were FIRST released as the old PB Ti how many years ago.?.?. Since then not much redesign, just new guts and a few doo-dads and what-nots to keep people buying. A bit long in the tooth now.

ob81
Feb 3, 2008, 06:57 PM
I just talked to my boss about this. He is the manager for the department, and Travels a hell of a lot, and really NEEDS something like the Air. He is a Mac guy through and through, so he never went sony and just carries his MBP. He owns like 3 macs himself, and his wife and kids all have their own Macs.

We saw the Air introduced and he was all over it.

He went in to check it out yesterday, and the first words he said to me this morning were "not impressed". He said that when he held it, that while light, it wasn't more portable than a Macbook. The compromises didn't bother him, it was the footprint.

I think the idea of the MBA is great, but 13" really isn't portable. If you compromise and get the superdrive, you might as well have gotten a Macbook. The look and feel is sturdy though, and it does what it is intended to do: Be light, and run OSX in it's full capacity when used.

bearwise
Feb 3, 2008, 06:58 PM
Not really. A Sony TZ is an engineering marvel, relatively speaking. An Air is merely a marvel of marketing combined with the best that Apple can do in terms of shrinkage. They've taken the usual Apple 'smoke & mirrors' approach, this time making the machine look razer-thin by sticking with an almost-normal-laptop area. A true subnotebook with the same vertical dimensions wouldn't look as thin to the eye.

However it has a use for us business types who doesn't need the power of an MBP but likes to carry lighter stuff. To my Windows eye it's a bit crap, but it's the only choice I have for a truly portable OS X machine. I also think it's the prettiest Apple laptop out there, but that is subjective, and subject to review after I've used the Airs for a while.
I wouldn't call the TZ a marvel.... I have one, cramped key board very small screen, very slow operation (XP or Vista)...it is a nice sub notebook, and has served me well, but trying to open two windows on the thing and typing more than a paragraph is painful. I just got my air and in my opinion the build quality is much better the keyboard is heaven and i love the screen. And its running OS X and is even pretty snappy with Vista in VMFusion. Give the decision to offer a 13 inch screen and full sized keyboard seems to have been paramount i think the engineering Apple put into it is impressive, and I think its looks soooo good.

synth3tik
Feb 3, 2008, 07:01 PM
I have not yet put my own two hands on a MBA, not really planning on it anyhow. I don't think for myself it is worth it, but to base it's worth on looks is silly. If one was to say it lacks power and can not perform anywhere near a MBP that would be one thing, but to say it is not worth it because the MBA is 1000 cooler is just silly.

Sweetbike40
Feb 3, 2008, 07:04 PM
Good. Don't like it, don't buy it!

A lot of people think a Ferrari's not worth it, but enough do...

I can't wait to enjoy mine! :)

No, i won't buy one. My post was just to let pre-orders know it may not be what they expect. I wanted to love it. It looks beautiful online but the screen and keyboard weren't that great. Maybe i'm just used to looking at high resolution screens and a nicer keyboard. The MBA looked fine closed.

Ferraris are for insecure guys who can't get a date with a woman who likes them for who they are.

NC MacGuy
Feb 3, 2008, 07:07 PM
[QUOTE=Ferraris are for insecure guys who can't get a date with a woman who likes them for who they are.[/QUOTE]

Or for someone turning 50 who after working their butts off their whole life finally has some money to burn!

I want a Ferrari...

robrose20
Feb 3, 2008, 07:29 PM
Or for someone turning 50 who after working their butts off their whole life finally has some money to burn!

I want a Ferrari...

me too ... or a Porsche 911 Turbo ... or the new Audi A8 ... my wife promised me one in a couple years. NICE!

aiongiant
Feb 3, 2008, 07:37 PM
Ferraris are for insecure guys who can't get a date with a woman who likes them for who they are.

i think ppl that say this are the ppl that can't afford one LOL

Sweetbike40
Feb 3, 2008, 07:47 PM
i think ppl that say this are the ppl that can't afford one LOL


NOT TRUE

Sweetbike40
Feb 3, 2008, 07:51 PM
me too ... or a Porsche 911 Turbo ... or the new Audi A8 ... my wife promised me one in a couple years. NICE!

Porshe 911 Turbo -- my love and any Audi are not in the same class as a flashy Ferrari. They are nice looking, high performance, beautiful, reliable, fast and still practical cars.

NC MacGuy
Feb 3, 2008, 08:37 PM
Porshe 911 Turbo -- my love and any Audi are not in the same class as a flashy Ferrari. They are nice looking, high performance, beautiful, reliable, fast and still practical cars.

I don't think any of the auto's aforementioned are particularly reliable. Sexy, fast, expensive all, but reliable?

I wouldn't buy any if I didn't have the money to have a factory trained mechanic on retainer. But then again, if you have to ask how much it costs...........

Sesshi
Feb 3, 2008, 08:43 PM
I wouldn't call the TZ a marvel.... I have one, cramped key board very small screen, very slow operation (XP or Vista)...it is a nice sub notebook, and has served me well, but trying to open two windows on the thing and typing more than a paragraph is painful. I just got my air and in my opinion the build quality is much better the keyboard is heaven and i love the screen. And its running OS X and is even pretty snappy with Vista in VMFusion. Give the decision to offer a 13 inch screen and full sized keyboard seems to have been paramount i think the engineering Apple put into it is impressive, and I think its looks soooo good.

Did you remove any of the software that the TZ comes with? I spend 2-3 hours with a new Sony removing the crapware it comes with. I see it as a necessary evil so it works as it should.

The screen has a higher resolution than the Air in an 11" format, so of course it's smaller. Keyboard is not full size of course but is usable. It's not going to be anyone's primary machine so I have no problems with it for mobile use. How's the battery life? Does the Air have a drive? Does it have built-in HSDPA/EDGE? Can it dock? I could go on... :rolleyes:

NC MacGuy
Feb 3, 2008, 09:03 PM
Did you remove any of the software that the TZ comes with? I spend 2-3 hours with a new Sony removing the crapware it comes with. I see it as a necessary evil so it works as it should.

The screen has a higher resolution than the Air in an 11" format, so of course it's smaller. Keyboard is not full size of course but is usable. It's not going to be anyone's primary machine so I have no problems with it for mobile use. How's the battery life? Does the Air have a drive? Does it have built-in HSDPA/EDGE? Can it dock? I could go on... :rolleyes:

To each his own. I like to see a full document I'm working on without having to put on my reading glasses. I got chubby clumsy fingers that amazingly enough work well w. a full size keyboard. I don't need an optical drive. The Air has its place and it may not be yours but as I get accustomed to it, it seems to be more and more mine.

mas90guru
Feb 3, 2008, 09:15 PM
Here's the complaints I expect to see listed most often about MBA:

1. Size / footprint - Not any smaller or more convenient for airline tray use.

2. Battery - mostly life

3. #1 complaint will be lack of hard drive space (and if you have to carry a bunch of doodads to make the computer perform like its (less expensive) cousins - how long will the honeymoon last.

TheBigS
Feb 3, 2008, 09:17 PM
I think the idea of the MBA is great, but 13" really isn't portable. If you compromise and get the superdrive, you might as well have gotten a Macbook. The look and feel is sturdy though, and it does what it is intended to do: Be light, and run OSX in it's full capacity when used.

I agree, I think they got rid of the wrong problem when trying to make an ultraportable. I mean don't get me wrong the macbook air is cool, but I think they should have gone for a 9" screen or something instead of getting rid of something like an optical drive which people really could use.

pondie84
Feb 3, 2008, 09:17 PM
I've posted comments on how i thought the MBA was beautiful based on photos. I just came back from the Apple store and i have to say i was not impressed. I'm sorry, it's my opinion but i think it looks cheap. Anyone who would pay $3000 for this is crazy. Looking at, it looks worth about 700-800. After playing with it then looking at the MBP.... the 15" MBP is 1000 time more beautiful and so much more worth the money. I'd caution anyone who has ordered it without seeing it.

I went through your posts and couldn't find one where you said that you thought the MBA was beautiful based on photos.

robrose20
Feb 3, 2008, 09:18 PM
Porshe 911 Turbo -- my love and any Audi are not in the same class as a flashy Ferrari. They are nice looking, high performance, beautiful, reliable, fast and still practical cars.

Can't afford a Ferrari ... I am married and have children ... A Porsche is definitely within the realm of possibility ... in a few years.

NC MacGuy
Feb 3, 2008, 09:30 PM
Here's the complaints I expect to see listed most often about MBA:

1. Size / footprint - Not any smaller or more convenient for airline tray use.

2. Battery - mostly life

3. #1 complaint will be lack of hard drive space (and if you have to carry a bunch of doodads to make the computer perform like its (less expensive) cousins - how long will the honeymoon last.

1. I complained about the footprint at first until I saw and held one. The thing is as big as a legal pad and weighs not a whole lot more. Had a PB 12" before so understand about airline tray use. Have a MB too and they can be used albeit not the most comfortably on a small plane - which usually has shorter flights. For long flights where I would use the laptop, I typically fly 1st class on a larger plane and room isn't a problem.

2. So far better than my MB & MBP. 4 1/2 hour WITH airport on and running iTunes. For typical airline usage, I should actually pull close or more than Apples claims of 5 hours. I also don't run my laptop itunes traveling, use my ipod which is much more efficient for entertainment. I'll let you know tomorrow when I have my first trip...

3. Got the 80G model and have 28G AVAILABLE. Plenty. Remember, it was just a couple of years ago 80G was a large HD - the largest you could get in many laptop lines.
I don't understand about doo-dads. I'm taking the laptop and charger tomorrow. What else to I really need? Wireless internet, I have USB which is almost everything and let me see, ummm - air! It isn't for everybody but I seldom used many of the doo-dads so it is for me - so far.

To each his own.

ubercool
Feb 3, 2008, 09:39 PM
Anyone who would pay $3000 for this is crazy. Looking at, it looks worth about 700-800.

The OP lost *all* credibility with this statement. Please don't respond to flamers, ignore them. ;)

Sweetbike40
Feb 3, 2008, 09:48 PM
I went through your posts and couldn't find one where you said that you thought the MBA was beautiful based on photos.

I never did say in a posting my opinion was based on a photo. I believe i posted before they arrived in stores. I fed into the hype and was thinking i'd be tempted to buy one when i saw it. I wasn't tempted at all based on my time with it.

pondie84
Feb 3, 2008, 09:51 PM
I never did say in a posting my opinion was based on a photo. I believe i posted before they arrived in stores. I fed into the hype and was thinking i'd be tempted to buy one when i saw it. I wasn't tempted at all based on my time with it.

Fair enough! I must've misread you. Personally I'd never buy a computer/notebook without looking at it first. Plus I like to wait a few months at least to see learn a bit about how useful and practical the product is in real life experience.

At the moment I think the Air looks cool... but am not convinced it's the most practical (or cost effective) of machines.

Alfadoc
Feb 3, 2008, 09:51 PM
i think ppl that say this are the ppl that can't afford one LOL

+100000!

Hahahaha! So true.

I was a Ferrari mechanic for twenty-seven years. Driven my F-car 15K miles in a year and a half, changed the oil three times and the tires once...

People are attracted to great design and things that do whatever they do exceptionally well. Apple hardware, software and Ferraris are some of those things...

Alfadoc
Feb 3, 2008, 09:53 PM
I wouldn't buy any if I didn't have the money to have a factory trained mechanic on retainer. But then again, if you have to ask how much it costs...........

I guess it helps that I'm factory trained! :D

Sweetbike40
Feb 3, 2008, 10:23 PM
+100000!

Hahahaha! So true.

I was a Ferrari mechanic for twenty-seven years. Driven my F-car 15K miles in a year and a half, changed the oil three times and the tires once...

People are attracted to great design and things that do whatever they do exceptionally well. Apple hardware, software and Ferraris are some of those things...

It is not the price of the Ferrari that is a problem... Its how flashy it is. I would not own one if it was given to me. The Porsche is classier. Now this posting is turnig into an auto forum! :)

macenforcer
Feb 3, 2008, 11:28 PM
Sorry but the Sony TZ is a marvel not the macbook air. Sony's TZ is twice as small and even has a dvd burner built in and still has fingerprint reader, sd slot, dvd drive, firewire, 2 usb ports, removable battery, oh and its lighter.

Anyone can make a laptop that size by taking everything out of it. Apple didn't even make the bezel around the screen small, its huge.

Burgess07
Feb 3, 2008, 11:51 PM
Anyone who would pay $3000 for this is crazy.

How about $18,000?:D

http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MacBook-Air-Brand-New-In-Hand-Ships-Today_W0QQitemZ300196144653QQihZ020QQcategoryZ140064QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

SFCAMacuser
Feb 4, 2008, 12:19 AM
I wouldn't call the TZ a marvel.... I have one, cramped key board very small screen, very slow operation (XP or Vista)...it is a nice sub notebook, and has served me well, but trying to open two windows on the thing and typing more than a paragraph is painful. I just got my air and in my opinion the build quality is much better the keyboard is heaven and i love the screen. And its running OS X and is even pretty snappy with Vista in VMFusion. Give the decision to offer a 13 inch screen and full sized keyboard seems to have been paramount i think the engineering Apple put into it is impressive, and I think its looks soooo good.

Couldn't agree with you more on TZ and other subcompact. They all focus on what they can pack in as small of space as they can, so they miniaturize even the ergonomics; screen size, keyboard and CPU power. After years of using subcompact, I have to say MBA have all the right criteria for most people whom need portable computing. I used to think I could not do without a DVD burner, but in reality I have maybe used it to reinstall system (Windows).

I used to think I need at least 3 USB ports, but after years of use, I really only need 1 port for iPod / iPhone sync and external drive.

The reality is that if most people pay attention to their daily use, they will find that all the 'missing' ports and interfaces are not necessary, especially trading for CPU horse power like the TZ and Toshiba R500.

Yeah the TZ have higher resolution screen, but if it requires a magnifying glass to read, it's not usable on the plane or work with on the road for long period of time.

So IMO, MBA does hit the mark with most user of their daily computing needs..

Just my 2c

tuneman07
Feb 4, 2008, 12:32 AM
I have yet to mess with the MBA at the store, but it looks from photos and such that it isn't that thin. It seems like it is almost thicker because it sits up off the table but I wanna see it in real life anyway. I think Apple is just having trouble out doing themselves- I mean the MB and MBP are already an inch thick and that is pretty good. Just seems like when compared to these already very thin computers the MBA isn't as exciting or shocking.

HLdan
Feb 4, 2008, 01:15 AM
I have yet to mess with the MBA at the store, but it looks from photos and such that it isn't that thin. It seems like it is almost thicker because it sits up off the table but I wanna see it in real life anyway. I think Apple is just having trouble out doing themselves- I mean the MB and MBP are already an inch thick and that is pretty good. Just seems like when compared to these already very thin computers the MBA isn't as exciting or shocking.

Yeah, well your eyes are playing tricks on you because the AIR is "thin as air". You will feel differently (in a good way) when you see it in person. If you say otherwise it's only because you are forcing yourself not to like it.
Apple is having trouble outdoing themselves?? Is that why they have $18 billion in cash??:p

andyokay
Feb 4, 2008, 01:18 AM
Even at the base price of 1799 it's too much. It looked like plastic to me. and yes, it has it's use, i understand the purpose of it and don't knock it for that.... i just think Apple is charging way too much. I'm done with this argument... i just think i should give a heads up to people that may have ordered it. You may want to see it in the store first. So be it if your happy. Enjoy.

My reaction was the opposite.
I was apprehensive when I saw it online at the keynote, but when I saw it in person, I was completely happy with my purchase. Thrilled, even.

Apple isn't charging too much; it's a very reasonable price, for a laptop of it's weight/size. It's far more affordable than its ultraportable rivals :)

OceanView
Feb 4, 2008, 01:55 AM
I will reserve my opinion until I see it in persn

s57
Feb 4, 2008, 10:05 AM
Good. Don't like it, don't buy it!
A lot of people think a Ferrari's not worth it, but enough do...


Perfect analogy! Light, expensive, beautiful - MBA = Ferrari (well, not quite as fast, but still...)

To all those complaining about the price: Compare it to other ultra-light, ultra-portable notebooks and you will see that the MBA is not more expensive.

tuneman07
Feb 4, 2008, 10:57 AM
Yeah, well your eyes are playing tricks on you because the AIR is "thin as air". You will feel differently (in a good way) when you see it in person. If you say otherwise it's only because you are forcing yourself not to like it.
Apple is having trouble outdoing themselves?? Is that why they have $18 billion in cash??:p

I will definitely be taking a look at it next time I am at the Apple store (hopefully to buy my new laptop- goin with the MB)
I just meant the MB and MBP are so thin that to make the MBA thin enough to have serious appeal above and beyond the MB/MBP is tough- if possible at all. All the Mac people out there are probably used to these computers by now but for the non Mac people like myself the first time I saw a Macbook I was blown away. I could not believe how thin it was- then the 15 and 17 inch MBP just took that shock one step further. The last thing I would have thought was "I wish this computer was thinner". It surprises me that Mac made that their goal.

tuneman07
Feb 4, 2008, 09:47 PM
Well, just got back from the Apple store, I have to say the Air is very thin- it looks thicker in pictures for some reason but it is strikingly thin. I have to say however from picking it up and messing with it a bit I don't see it being any more portable whatsoever. I do like the keyboard though- kinda a throwback. It seems like if they put the screen on the MB or MBP it could shave some space off them and update the look a bit.