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SeeMeRock
Feb 3, 2008, 11:23 PM
I am getting ready to buy a IMac or PowerMac, but not sure which one yet.

I want to be able to convert HD or Blueray movies, does anyone know what I should look for when getting a Mac.

Also will MactheRipper/Handbrake work to do the conversions?

Hope someone can help. Thanks.



Cave Man
Feb 4, 2008, 08:37 AM
No such tools exist on the Mac side. Some have reported success using a Win partition under Boot Camp, Parallels or Fusion and any number of the free ripping utils on that side. If you go that route and follow the specifications from the ATV web site, they should work.

northy124
Feb 4, 2008, 09:55 AM
I use AnyDVD HD for Windows on my Windoze Partition very good program. I also you use Free one but they look like crap.

Northy124

Stoick
Feb 4, 2008, 11:04 AM
Once you guys have those files ripped from the Bluray disc what program do you use to convert it?

northy124
Feb 4, 2008, 11:16 AM
I rip with AnyDVD HD then encode with Divx HD and use QT Pro to put in .Mov container and it plays in iTunes and ATV. Great Quality BTW

SeeMeRock
Feb 4, 2008, 05:33 PM
Which IMAC or Powermac should I get if I want to be able to use AnyDVD HD.

Should I be looking for any particular superdrive?

northy124
Feb 4, 2008, 05:51 PM
AnyDVD HD is WINDOWS ONLY as i stated in my post it is the only way. But get an iMac and boot camp to Windows.

Northy124

robrose20
Feb 4, 2008, 08:31 PM
What is the typical size of an HD movie file?

nordesmic
Feb 5, 2008, 01:07 AM
What is the typical size of an HD movie file?

If you are talking about a complete Rip from a Blu-Ray disc then assuming an average bitrate of 20 mbps (2.5 MB/s)and 120 minutes then you are looking at 2.5*60*120= ~18 GB.

For a 720p Rip, which still looks very decent, you can get away with a total file size of around 5 GB

robrose20
Feb 5, 2008, 06:19 AM
If you are talking about a complete Rip from a Blu-Ray disc then assuming an average bitrate of 20 mbps (2.5 MB/s)and 120 minutes then you are looking at 2.5*60*120= ~18 GB.

For a 720p Rip, which still looks very decent, you can get away with a total file size of around 5 GB

Are there any software companies planning on making software to rip HD DVD's or Blue Ray on the Mac? I do not want to install windows on my MBP. I currently have an HD-DVD player and about 20 HD movies. Would love to convert them to Apple TV format.

Also, will the ripped content work on the Apple TV? I thought there was a limit as to the file size on itunes. Thanks!

mr_matalino
Feb 5, 2008, 08:42 AM
I rip with AnyDVD HD then encode with Divx HD and use QT Pro to put in .Mov container and it plays in iTunes and ATV. Great Quality BTW

Forgive the ignorance, but don't you have to have a blu-ray player/burner to rip blu-rays (in the instance, on your mac)?

northy124
Feb 5, 2008, 09:59 AM
Mr Matalino
I have a windows machine (As stated earlier) just for ripping HD DVD's and Blu-Ray Disc (I have both formats as i can get the best of both worlds).

RobRose
There are no companies currently developing this software at the moment (To the best of my knowledge there isn't).

720p Rips get 4-5GB with compression into Divx HD you can get it down to 750MB-1GB then using QuickTime Pro you put it in a .Mov container or you could skip Divx HD and QT Pro and just use Visual Hub.

For 1080i/p rips they can be as big as 20-30GB (And sometimes bigger) Just use the Divx HD encoding and QT Pro save as .Mov and it down to a 1-2GB.

And both 720p/1080i/p work in ATV.

Do you have windows by any chance RobRose and SeeMeRock?

Northy124

Edit: I forgot to say use Dr.Divx when encoding the Divx HD files.

DJAKO
Feb 5, 2008, 10:05 AM
Forgive the ignorance, but don't you have to have a blu-ray player/burner to rip blu-rays (in the instance, on your mac)?

I was wondering the same. Does your PC need to have a blueray drive to be able to rip the moves with AnyDVD HD?

northy124
Feb 5, 2008, 10:10 AM
Yes you need HD DVD/Blu-Ray for HD Movies (Perhaps it would of helped to read my post above you) It works with standard DVD's as well but doesn't upscale them.

DJAKO
Feb 5, 2008, 10:29 AM
Yes you need HD DVD/Blu-Ray for HD Movies (Perhaps it would of helped to read my post above you) It works with standard DVD's as well but doesn't upscale them.

I did read your post, but you never really made it that clear that you had a combo drive that included both.

northy124
Feb 5, 2008, 10:31 AM
So saying i have both doesn't say i have both players (I don't have combo drives they suck) i think the post is clear and i was referring to Windows not Mac in the ripping part as well.

Northy124

DJAKO
Feb 5, 2008, 10:38 AM
So saying i have both doesn't say i have both players (I don't have combo drives they suck) i think the post is clear and i was referring to Windows not Mac in the ripping part as well.

Northy124
Cool, you think it, but obviously I didn't. Not to burst you're bubble, but combo drives don't suck :). I know you were referring to windows, I have a windows machine I was going to use it for.

northy124
Feb 5, 2008, 10:43 AM
I'm not in a Bubble is just rather have a separate drive for each as i can do one BD and one HD DVD at the same time as well as the drives being made just for that particular format.

mr_matalino
Feb 5, 2008, 10:54 AM
I'm not in a Bubble is just rather have a separate drive for each as i can do one BD and one HD DVD at the same time as well as the drives being made just for that particular format.

How much did that end up costing? I can't imagine buying a blu-ray drive AND an HD-DVD drive just for ripping movies is a cheap alternative.

northy124
Feb 5, 2008, 11:05 AM
HD DVD $120 Blu-Ray $350. I rent all the HD DVD and BD's that i rip so the Drives have paid for themselves in about one month. The PC is a standard crappy one for $300 which i upgraded the Ram and Graphics card my self as to save money. I have a decent set up i think personally for the low cost.

Northy124

mr_matalino
Feb 5, 2008, 11:07 AM
HD DVD $120 Blu-Ray $350. I rent all the HD DVD and BD's that i rip so the Drives have paid for themselves in about one month. The PC is a standard crappy one for $300 which i upgraded the Ram and Graphics card my self as to save money. I have a decent set up i think personally for the low cost.

Northy124

I'm curious to know how you store all these files? Digitally? If so, I can only imagine the hard drive space needed to store them...

northy124
Feb 5, 2008, 11:13 AM
If you read my post above i compress so they end up at 750MB-1GB using Divx HD. And yes i store on my HDD

CWallace
Feb 5, 2008, 11:13 AM
I'm curious to know how you store all these files? Digitally? If so, I can only imagine the hard drive space needed to store them...

northy124 noted that with compression, the 720p rips take up about 1GB and the 1080p rips take up about 2GB.

whooleytoo
Feb 5, 2008, 11:13 AM
Interesting... given that the Xbox 360's HD DVD drive is USB, I wonder if it could be used for this purpose if hooked up to my MBP in Windows?

CWallace
Feb 5, 2008, 11:13 AM
Interesting... given that the Xbox 360's HD DVD drive is USB, I wonder if it could be used for this purpose if hooked up to my MBP in Windows?

As long as Windows has drivers for it, I don't see why not.

northy124
Feb 5, 2008, 11:16 AM
Thats the drive i used 360 HD DVD it works fine. But i got a slightly better one after i broke it. You need drivers if using XP. Vista has them reinstalled

mrriddle
Feb 12, 2008, 05:31 AM
I rip with AnyDVD HD then encode with Divx HD and use QT Pro to put in .Mov container and it plays in iTunes and ATV. Great Quality BTW


When I rip a blu-ray wiht AnyDVD hd TO MY harddrive it creamtes .m2ts files. The main movie is about 32GB. But when i want to open it in the DIVX converter as you said, it says that it is a not supported file format. What did I wrong? what did you do instead. did you creats an avisynth file first or how do you open m2ts files in the converter? Thanx

mrriddle
Feb 12, 2008, 05:33 AM
.... and what about the dolby digital 5.1 audio tracks? can they be used because i don't find any ways to adjust them in the divx converter.