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MacRumors
Feb 11, 2008, 02:32 PM
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GCap Media has launched (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/feb/11/radio.ipod?gusrc=rss&feed=technology) a new mobile website that provides iPhone and iPod Touch users a way to listen to live radio over the internet.

The new site launched at MusicRadio.com (http://musicradio.com) provides a mobile Safari optimized browsing experience that allows users to listen to live radio streamed over the internet. 5 stations are presently offered from the London based company:

Capital 95.8 - hits and new music
Xfm - interviews, rock, highlights from the Top 20
Choice FM - hip hop and R&B
Classic FM - classical music
Gold - classic hits

The service also provides users to see the last 5 tracks played and buy them through iTunes on your iPhone. In our brief testing, the service worked quite well with good quality through Wifi.



Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2008/02/11/internet-radio-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch/)



Popeye206
Feb 11, 2008, 02:43 PM
The concept here is totally cool! Now if they would just let me pause and rewind the Radio too (like TIVO).

The challenge is going to be how this is delivered... of course, you can't be walking or driving around with WiFi access to listen. But I still love this concept and think this is one of the areas that Apple needs to exploit and expand on more - doing so would take the iPod line to a new level changing the playing field once again for MP3 players.

Cool!

mainstreetmark
Feb 11, 2008, 02:56 PM
Yeah! Really! Works great. I don't know if I'd ever use this, but it's a good demo of what can be done!


All this free bandwidth for YouTube and now Radio, yet our tiny SMS messages are (artificially) limited.

maehara
Feb 11, 2008, 02:58 PM
I still love this concept and think this is one of the areas that Apple needs to exploit and expand on more
Yup - a central list from Apple of iPod-compatible radio streams would be a really useful app (or a good idea for someone else to do once the SDK comes out, maybe?). Not much of a fan of the stations featured, but the idea's a good one...

The Phazer
Feb 11, 2008, 03:17 PM
The challenge is going to be how this is delivered... of course, you can't be walking or driving around with WiFi access to listen.

It just about works on Edge too...

This about the single best innovation Gcap has done for years. I remember giving a presentation there a few years ago talking about building a site that linked to stores to buy the track you just heard as a revenue generator, and there didn't seem to be any buy-in at all, so it's come a bit out of the blue.

But a very welcome surprise.

Phazer

RevolutionOne
Feb 11, 2008, 03:35 PM
I'm glad it has XFM on it or I wouldn't have cared.

This is going to get a lot of use

:)

Drumjim85
Feb 11, 2008, 03:43 PM
The concept here is totally cool! Now if they would just let me pause and rewind the Radio too (like TIVO).

nope, that gets into royalty battles... and how many times does the station have to pay the artist for that song play....

there are pretty strict rules on internet radio about that kinda thing... pandora.com (a great site!) talks about that some.

sammywoj
Feb 11, 2008, 03:46 PM
Can the Sirius/XM stream be accessed on the iPhone/Touch via WiFi? I access my satellite internet radio from my home computer now. Would be nice to take it with me around the home or office. If not, is this a possibility soon?

Popeye206
Feb 11, 2008, 03:47 PM
You know... sometimes you just have to try it. :-) For some goofy reason when I read UK... I assumed it would not work in the US... silly me!

Anyway.. I tried it... seems to have some quirkiness to it, and one annoying feature.... when your iPhone sleeps... the connection is lost! Yikes! Still this is cool and I'll have to play some more to see if I have a setting wrong.

brucebrendon
Feb 11, 2008, 04:07 PM
Oh if only the BBC would move away from realplayer etc for some qt. Would gain them instant easy points until their mac compatible iPlayer comes out. Simple. Easy. Ideal. Unlikely.

madhive
Feb 11, 2008, 04:25 PM
Finally!

deannnnn
Feb 11, 2008, 04:38 PM
How is this any different from FlyTunes?

fart
Feb 11, 2008, 04:40 PM
I'm glad it has XFM on it or I wouldn't have cared.

This is going to get a lot of use

:)

XFM!!!! THE HOME OF KARL PILKINGTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool:

rediffusion
Feb 11, 2008, 06:32 PM
XFM!!!! THE HOME OF KARL PILKINGTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool:

:D yep, he's a genius

breath of apple
Feb 11, 2008, 06:55 PM
Streaming radio - excellent idea! :)

California
Feb 11, 2008, 07:41 PM
I just would like an AM radio player for my iPod or iPhone. Is that possible?

Wolf103FM
Feb 11, 2008, 07:50 PM
I'ved been running Tversity media server on my windows box, along with uxm and usirius to allow mw to listen to live XM and Sirius satellite radio at work on my touch, where I can't get the satellite signals. as well as many radio stations I have manually added to the library

Fender321
Feb 11, 2008, 08:01 PM
This works perfectly for me over Edge (Atlanta, GA)! I've been hoping for something like this for a long time. Let's hope for more stations in time.

Popeye206
Feb 11, 2008, 09:16 PM
nope, that gets into royalty battles... and how many times does the station have to pay the artist for that song play....
there are pretty strict rules on internet radio about that kinda thing... pandora.com (a great site!) talks about that some.

Well... then they are going to get into royalty battles... this service does allow you to pause and rewind. Just Like I was asking for.

Honestly, I don't see what the issue is... I understand the royalty issue, but recording TV and Radio has been out there for years... how is pausing and rewinding any different than that?

Popeye206
Feb 11, 2008, 09:20 PM
This works perfectly for me over Edge (Atlanta, GA)! I've been hoping for something like this for a long time. Let's hope for more stations in time.

Hummm... I really can't get it to work all that well... even on my WiFi... when the iPhone sleeps... I'll loose the feed for the station... so I assume I'm loosing my internet connection when the iPhone sleeps... do I have a setting wrong somewhere???

Looking for some answers if anyone has any suggestions. :D

Ronnoco
Feb 11, 2008, 10:17 PM
Hummm... I really can't get it to work all that well... even on my WiFi... when the iPhone sleeps... I'll loose the feed for the station... so I assume I'm loosing my internet connection when the iPhone sleeps... do I have a setting wrong somewhere???

Looking for some answers if anyone has any suggestions. :D

Mine did that a couple of times as well but now it is working perfectly even while it is in sleep mode...perhaps there are still a few quirks to work out which is to be exoected...all in all a brilliant new function IMO...Cheers to GCap! :)

fpnc
Feb 11, 2008, 10:34 PM
I was able to get this to work over both WiFi and EDGE, but it seems to last only about a minute and then the playback stops. I suspect it has something to do with power management on the iPhone and it could simply be that the iPhone isn't designed to hold an internet stream indefinitely. Also, the sound quality was somewhat suspect. If my results are typical I don't think I could use it to listen to music, maybe talk radio and news but not music.

Fender321
Feb 12, 2008, 12:33 AM
I played it for about 20 minutes on edge, in sleep mode, before it stopped.

It appears as though the "streaming" is done by having the iPhone download a huge file (4 hours long) that the server is writing on the fly.

This means the iphone is likely caching the file as it downloads. Perhaps it's stopping once the phone runs out of memory, because I doubt it has any idea to delete the file as it goes.

Am3822
Feb 12, 2008, 03:18 AM
Oh if only the BBC would move away from realplayer etc for some qt. Would gain them instant easy points until their mac compatible iPlayer comes out. Simple. Easy. Ideal. Unlikely.

How about using their 'embedded' player (the one that pops up from their website)? Will it work on the ipod touch?

EDIT: obviously, the realplayer plug-in is required, and until RealMedia comes up with one compatible with the touch's architecture and/or the helix people do the same (and also manage to install it successfully), there's no chance of it happening.

Wyvernspirit
Feb 12, 2008, 08:52 AM
Yeah! Really! Works great. I don't know if I'd ever use this, but it's a good demo of what can be done!


All this free bandwidth for YouTube and now Radio, yet our tiny SMS messages are (artificially) limited.

I'm sure you could get your SMS' for free if you allow for advertising on each message and message creator/sender.

SouvenirCity
Feb 13, 2008, 07:16 AM
This sorta is minor compensation for the iPods lack of FM Tuner. I checked it out yesterday, and its actually pretty cool. XFM FTW.

amacisbetter
Feb 15, 2008, 04:29 PM
What a great concept. I look forward to seeing what other features will come with these sites!

gusty987
Feb 16, 2008, 03:15 PM
is it possible to see what song is playing without closing the stream?

hexonxonx
Feb 16, 2008, 03:35 PM
I like flytunes better because there is allot more stations to listen to plus I can have a favorite stations list and I am taken to it at login. I don't like the choices on music radio. Hopefully they add more soon. I have it as a webclip till then.

beemerin
Feb 16, 2008, 04:24 PM
yea i like flytunes too, but i will check it out

richardsan
Feb 18, 2008, 07:44 PM
works pretty good, ...

http://www.flytunes.fm/

TravisReynolds
Mar 3, 2008, 08:51 PM
this would be awesome if i could listen to my local stations while i'm in class. Hopefully This will come in the near future

bitslap47
Mar 4, 2008, 02:21 PM
Can the Sirius/XM stream be accessed on the iPhone/Touch via WiFi? I access my satellite internet radio from my home computer now. Would be nice to take it with me around the home or office. If not, is this a possibility soon?

Soon ;)

It is being worked on by NiceMac (http://nicemac.com) and GeeksToolbox (http://www.geekstoolbox.com) as part of the StreamSmart project. It will allow Sirius, XM, and any other internet radio sources the users collect and put in a public list, or collect privately.

Promo video: StreamSmart...What's Next??? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiS5mbVM7do)

sunfast
Mar 5, 2008, 05:58 AM
If it was possible to listen to BBC, and therefore Test Match Special, I would leave my desk right now and buy an iPhone.

Westside guy
Mar 6, 2008, 11:10 PM
this would be awesome if i could listen to my local stations while i'm in class. Hopefully This will come in the near future

Yeah, this is why some of our faculty are lobbying right now to ban laptops from the classroom...

jimmer-uk
Mar 16, 2008, 04:50 PM
If it was possible to listen to BBC, and therefore Test Match Special, I would leave my desk right now and buy an iPhone.

Now your talking!! Would be awesome!!

jimmer-uk
Mar 16, 2008, 04:50 PM
If it was possible to listen to BBC, and therefore Test Match Special, I would leave my desk right now and buy an iPhone.

Now your talking!! Would be awesome!!

biseinen
Mar 17, 2008, 11:38 AM
actually, bbc streaming on the touch is already possible guys:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/

The Phazer
Mar 17, 2008, 12:48 PM
actually, bbc streaming on the touch is already possible guys:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/

That's only of stuff that's already podcasted however, not of things that are available streamed on the listen again site or live.

The BBC have said there are new formats coming at the end of April for the radio player. We will just have to hope the people repeatedly stealing content from the TV iPlayer haven't ruined that for everyone.

Phazer

wooo
Jul 18, 2008, 02:35 AM
ooTunes will let you listen to a few of live BBC streams on your iphone (just not the ones in Real Audio). It also streams pandora, last.fm, and pretty much any radio stream you can listen to in iTunes. There's an online demo, and to buy it's $20.

That's only of stuff that's already podcasted however, not of things that are available streamed on the listen again site or live.

The BBC have said there are new formats coming at the end of April for the radio player. We will just have to hope the people repeatedly stealing content from the TV iPlayer haven't ruined that for everyone.

Phazer