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MacRumors
Feb 19, 2008, 04:40 PM
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Announced today, Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile are offering (http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2008/02/19/att_0220.html) new $99.99 unlimited voice calling plans. This allows mobile phone customers to talk as long as they want, seven days a week. The plans will be available to new and existing wireless subscribers for $99.99 a month for unlimited U.S. calling on all devices with no domestic roaming or long distance charges. The $99 plans is also available (http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/02/19/using-atts-new-unlimited-voice-plan-with-the-iphone/) to iPhone users, though you are still required to add the $20 unlimited data plan.



Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2008/02/19/atandt-offering-unlimited-voice-plan-for-99/)



shadowfax
Feb 19, 2008, 04:54 PM
My first question is, is it still $10/mo to add a line for a family plan?

chr1s60
Feb 19, 2008, 05:02 PM
My first question is, is it still $10/mo to add a line for a family plan?

I was thinking the same thing. Is this even an option for iPhone users on a family plan and if so how much does it cost per line?

sportsfanMAW
Feb 19, 2008, 05:20 PM
I was thinking the same thing. Is this even an option for iPhone users on a family plan and if so how much does it cost per line?

haha my thoughts exactly, Will it end up costing me a ton of $$ fora family plan or will it be $9.99 extra per line?

LastZion
Feb 19, 2008, 05:25 PM
sounds good, wish something like it would come to Canada

yellow
Feb 19, 2008, 05:35 PM
That's only for a single line plan (on Verizon). Family plan unlimited is $199 for 2 lines and some charge for each line after that.

mwp98223
Feb 19, 2008, 05:36 PM
Looking at Verizon it is basically $99 per line on a family plan. At least that's how I'm reading it.

SirOmega
Feb 19, 2008, 06:41 PM
Its $99/line unlimited talk. So if you had a family plan with 3 lines it would be $99 each.

What I'm interested to know is if you can have one line on the unlimited talk plan and two other plans on the same "family talk plan" that use minutes. I mean, I suppose I could break the family talk plan apart, but its a PITA and AT&T might possibly charge contract fees.

starflyer
Feb 19, 2008, 07:35 PM
This drops on the 22nd according to AT&T. They are still working on the logistics on the Family Talk plans.

Hooka
Feb 19, 2008, 07:35 PM
Why would you want unlimited calls on your iphone? My iphone sounds like crap and i can never get a signal, I drop call constantly, it is a complete nightmare, I live in South Florida, anyone else have this problem? Don't get me wrong it does some cool things and it's a great ipod but as a phone, come on? I drop calls on I-95, in Miami Fort Lauderdale home to 5,000,000 people.

mediumofmeaning
Feb 19, 2008, 07:43 PM
at&t will never convince me they are not greedy scumbags who provide awful plans. someone please shank their ceo.

MajorC
Feb 19, 2008, 07:52 PM
Hooka-I am in West Palm and travel daily into Broward and almost never lose a call. My earpiece volume could be better, but the connection is always full bars. Is your iphone screwed up???

shadowfax
Feb 19, 2008, 08:16 PM
Why would you want unlimited calls on your iphone? My iphone sounds like crap and i can never get a signal, I drop call constantly, it is a complete nightmare, I live in South Florida, anyone else have this problem? Don't get me wrong it does some cool things and it's a great ipod but as a phone, come on? I drop calls on I-95, in Miami Fort Lauderdale home to 5,000,000 people.

Sounds like a problem with the network to me... Particularly considering the high volume of praise for the phone. Cell tower handoffs (what happens when you are driving) are often dropped when there aren't enough lines on the tower you're switching to. If you have reception issues in general, though, you should consider taking it back--get it replaced under warranty.

Tattoo
Feb 19, 2008, 08:47 PM
Anyone know how the Unlimited Voice will affect those items? :confused:

Hooka
Feb 19, 2008, 08:56 PM
when I walk my dog around the block I loose reception all the time. I don't get it. I bought my phone in December 2007, can I get an exchange? I've even called AT&T to tell them that the reception is awful in my neck of the woods. I have checked the coverage map and it says I'm in the best place to get full bars. I have never jail-broken or done any modding to the phone. It was also a brand new sim card. I switched from T-Mobile where I had great coverage and rarely dropped calls. oh well?

MacFly123
Feb 19, 2008, 08:59 PM
Anyone think this will lead them to lowering the current iPhone rate plans or add more minutes? I really want them to sweeten the plans before I get iPhone 2.0, is that likely???

Beligerent
Feb 19, 2008, 09:14 PM
Yeah great timing guys...I just walked into an AT&T store and cancelled my contract cause my iPhone was useless in Concord NH. I paid my $175.00 termination fee right there at the counter and now this.

avalys
Feb 19, 2008, 09:50 PM
Yeah great timing guys...I just walked into an AT&T store and cancelled my contract cause my iPhone was useless in Concord NH. I paid my $175.00 termination fee right there at the counter and now this.
You think paying extra for unlimited minutes would solve your reception/coverage problem?

ortuno2k
Feb 19, 2008, 10:10 PM
Why would you want unlimited calls on your iphone? My iphone sounds like crap and i can never get a signal, I drop call constantly, it is a complete nightmare, I live in South Florida, anyone else have this problem? Don't get me wrong it does some cool things and it's a great ipod but as a phone, come on? I drop calls on I-95, in Miami Fort Lauderdale home to 5,000,000 people.

You're not alone. I live in South Florida too and my iPhone has dropped a good amount of calls, no matter who I'm talking to. And the reception indoor TOTALLY SUCKS, even inside a grocery store or something.
I'm not sure if it's AT&T or if it's the phone itself - considering taking it back to :apple: and have it checked before the warranty expires.

NewSc2
Feb 19, 2008, 11:38 PM
great news, unfortunately i barely use my 700 shared minutes (2 on my plan). As for network coverage, I get excellent coverage, save for a few random spots. Less than 1% of my calls ever drop or have shoddy signal.

liberty4all
Feb 19, 2008, 11:43 PM
http://blog.treonauts.com/2008/02/att-centro-now.html

What I really want to know is, where is the iPhone's Push To Talk?! The Centro on AT&T has that, Music ID and XM Mobile...

X86BSD
Feb 19, 2008, 11:45 PM
that the telco's were raping people for dedicated digital lines (T1-T3). Now it appears they didn't learn the lesson from that and are offering unlimited voice for 99/mo?! Who in their right mind pays for these outrageously over priced plans? I have a sneaking suspicion with the SDK launching at the end of the month they know that skype, gizmo, etc are coming to the iphone and the days of raping customers per minute for voice are over. Just my theory but the writing is on the wall.

X

jlanuez
Feb 20, 2008, 12:04 AM
Why would you want unlimited calls on your iphone? My iphone sounds like crap and i can never get a signal, I drop call constantly, it is a complete nightmare, I live in South Florida, anyone else have this problem? Don't get me wrong it does some cool things and it's a great ipod but as a phone, come on? I drop calls on I-95, in Miami Fort Lauderdale home to 5,000,000 people.

Agreed! My iPhone drops calls daily, often has no signal.
Absolutly the worst " cellphone" I've ever had. Love it for everything else it does though.

Does not even work in the airport in baggage!

BTW - we are in Tucson, AZ.

SilvorX
Feb 20, 2008, 12:44 AM
sounds good, wish something like it would come to Canada

If only.. data prices still need to change quite a bit.

There was an internal memo sent out today by Rogers, data prices changing quite a bit, no unlimited but $15 buys 20mb, which is a big jump from 1.5mb, and unlike paying insane overage if you go over the usage, it bumps up into the next tier of data, which is up to 60mb for $30, and a maximum of up to 5GB for $100 (and each megabyte being $0.03 afterwards!). Which is insanely better than a couple cents per kilobyte in the past!

Anywho.. Unlimited minutes is not something I need, I'm paying 10 bucks for 250 min and unlimited evenings, and I'm well below that, however when I worked at Sprint I did see one or two accounts with Unlimited voice minutes for $60/month, plus unlimited texting for $0 as part of an old promo back around 2001

Master Atrus
Feb 20, 2008, 01:07 AM
I talked to at&t today and the plan is $99.99 for the first line, on a family talk it is $199.99.

Now I know it is nit-picking, but that is a penny more than having two single plans. What is with that?

Atrus

Jphillippe
Feb 20, 2008, 01:38 AM
Why would you want unlimited calls on your iphone? My iphone sounds like crap and i can never get a signal, I drop call constantly, it is a complete nightmare, I live in South Florida, anyone else have this problem? Don't get me wrong it does some cool things and it's a great ipod but as a phone, come on? I drop calls on I-95, in Miami Fort Lauderdale home to 5,000,000 people.

I live in Kendall, south florida as well and I have no problems, I am running an unlocked iphone with t-mobile.

vlj9r
Feb 20, 2008, 02:45 AM
I'm having the same issue in the Tampa Bay area. I'll speking to someone and all of a sudden they sound like they are gargling. Can't understand what they are saying. A very few times, it will clear up but most of the time I have to hang up and re-dial. I can see this happening while traveling in a car and being switched from tower to tower but this can also happen while standing on the street.

jerry

Why would you want unlimited calls on your iphone? My iphone sounds like crap and i can never get a signal, I drop call constantly, it is a complete nightmare, I live in South Florida, anyone else have this problem? Don't get me wrong it does some cool things and it's a great ipod but as a phone, come on? I drop calls on I-95, in Miami Fort Lauderdale home to 5,000,000 people.

Hooka
Feb 20, 2008, 06:54 AM
I'll try to go to ATT and see if they can do anything. I know this is the wrong topic to vent like this and for that I am sorry. I do overall think ATT is by far some of the worst cell coverage I have had in almost 5 years. T-Mobile say what you want but in Fort Lauderdale, FL their signal is A+++.

krye
Feb 20, 2008, 07:35 AM
How about unlimited voice/data/text for $59.99 a month? What a way to suck more cash out of your customers. Giving us unlimited calling requires nothing extra on their end, so why charge more for something we should have had from the get-go? Greedy bastards. And they make it sound like they did us a favor.

Hooka
Feb 20, 2008, 08:47 AM
I'll give you all an update. AT&T called apple and I have a apoitment at the bar tomorrow. The girl from apple, who was very nice told me they would most likely exchange my phone. I'll let you all know what happens. Thanks for the advice.

question fear
Feb 20, 2008, 09:19 AM
at&t will never convince me they are not greedy scumbags who provide awful plans. someone please shank their ceo.

Is that really necessary? First of all, threats against the CEO? Immature and uncool. Second of all, AT&T has almost price for price the exact same plans as Verizon. If you don't like them, fine, but calling out violence against a stranger because you have a problem with the company is just not ok.

skeep5
Feb 20, 2008, 10:42 AM
You're not alone. I live in South Florida too and my iPhone has dropped a good amount of calls, no matter who I'm talking to.

I'm such a mac geek, i didn't even care my reception was terrible at my house when i bought my iphone. But, the ATT gods smiled upon me at Christmas, and all of a sudden i had almost full signal at home. Because i'm in a developing area, i suppose they finally put a tower up closer and now i'm happy. The thing i don't understand about the T-Mobile/ATT signal issue that some are having here, is that ATT and Tmobile use the same type of signal and the same towers, no? Verizon's is different and therefore (until xmas) my neighbors with verizon had better coverage cause a verizon tower was nearby.

EagerDragon
Feb 20, 2008, 10:50 AM
How unlimited is unlimited?

EagerDragon
Feb 20, 2008, 10:55 AM
Its $99/line unlimited talk. So if you had a family plan with 3 lines it would be $99 each.

What I'm interested to know is if you can have one line on the unlimited talk plan and two other plans on the same "family talk plan" that use minutes. I mean, I suppose I could break the family talk plan apart, but its a PITA and AT&T might possibly charge contract fees.

I think you forgot to also count the fact you probably need a texting plan and the standard 20 dollar plan for each iPhone line.

You maybe looking at close to $450 for an unlimited family plan (3 lines all iPhones).

Akitakoi
Feb 20, 2008, 11:01 AM
I just read someplace that Verizon includes unlimited texting with the $99 price and Sprint to offer $60 unlimited.

I hope this starts a price "war" to bring down the ridicules costs.

I'll try to find it.

hauss316H
Feb 20, 2008, 11:04 AM
had to ditch the iphone. dropped calls, crappy signal, awesome phone which is tarnished by att. im with tmobile, 39.99 for 1000 minutes, 19.99 unlimited txt and data. ...gee whats the better deal?

EagerDragon
Feb 20, 2008, 11:05 AM
Yeah great timing guys...I just walked into an AT&T store and cancelled my contract cause my iPhone was useless in Concord NH. I paid my $175.00 termination fee right there at the counter and now this.

If it was useless, what difference does it makes that you get more minutes for less?

If the phone does not work in that area then what is the point?

Confused.

EagerDragon
Feb 20, 2008, 11:16 AM
at&t will never convince me they are not greedy scumbags who provide awful plans. someone please shank their ceo.

Dude, if something happens to the man, guess who they are going to come looking for?

KittyToy
Feb 20, 2008, 11:17 AM
all cells have their good and bad reception area, i live in orlando and i have no issues with AT&T, and i also got Tmobile and theirs go in and out for me daily.

kasei
Feb 20, 2008, 11:36 AM
I just switched from a Sony Ericsson S710a to an iPhone and let me tell you the reception is so much better. I couldn't talk on my Sony in my home office. I had to sit a certain way at my desk just to get reception. My iPhone has only had one problem which occurred the other night. I was talking long distance when it just turn black and went dead. The battery was fully charged, but it just died. It came back on a few second later. It was weird as I was talking to someone who was also using an iPhone.

So far I am really happy with my purchase. I couldn't wait until the iPhone 2.0. I live in LA where you would think reception would be awesome, but it sux depending on where you are in the city. I've heard it doesn't matter who you are with or what phone you are using you will run into dead spots.

joeshell383
Feb 20, 2008, 01:40 PM
You think paying extra for unlimited minutes would solve your reception/coverage problem?

That's my concern with a price war, that the loss of revenue will result in a loss of much needed continued infrastructure investment.

Also, to all the people saying (not necessarily here) that Cricket or Metro PCS offers unlimited for $30-$50 per month, what they are conveniently forgetting is a) those companies aren't available to everyone b) those don't have the freedom of the Big 4's unlimited plans because (hefty) ROAMING charges exist.

I like unlimited, and it is definitely the way of the future (look at landline/mobile long distance, look at the internet), and will definitely happen considering many people are going mobile-only and usage will not increase that much except at the very top (people who already pay hundreds for 2000+ minutes per month), but the talk of a price war and rumors of Sprint's $60/month unlimited access scare me (as well as investors). I think $99-$179 is perfectly fine for unlimited EVERYTHING, and if you don't like it than just stick to a lower cost per-minute plan.

joeshell383
Feb 20, 2008, 01:45 PM
I just read someplace that Verizon includes unlimited texting with the $99 price and Sprint to offer $60 unlimited.

I hope this starts a price "war" to bring down the ridicules costs.

I'll try to find it.

I don't. See my comment above. PLEASE MERGE.
Also, it is "ridiculous". There is no ridiculing going on.

esquire360
Feb 20, 2008, 03:57 PM
when I walk my dog around the block I loose reception all the time. I don't get it. I bought my phone in December 2007, can I get an exchange? I've even called AT&T to tell them that the reception is awful in my neck of the woods. I have checked the coverage map and it says I'm in the best place to get full bars. I have never jail-broken or done any modding to the phone. It was also a brand new sim card. I switched from T-Mobile where I had great coverage and rarely dropped calls. oh well?

hook, u gotta get another iphone user to drive your house see if your phones bad

mediumofmeaning
Feb 20, 2008, 04:05 PM
Dude, if something happens to the man, guess who they are going to come looking for?

"Hey, Detective Brenshaw, the AT&T CEO was shanked, did you hear?"

"No, I didn't, but it must be related to that kid who jokingly called for an attack on a mac news website months ago, you know, that one we rigorously monitor?!"

"Right!"

For some reason the CEO being shanked jailhouse style isn't one of my greatest worries.

Well, I'm off to seek maturation.

chicagostars
Feb 20, 2008, 04:34 PM
Dude, if something happens to the man, guess who they are going to come looking for?

"Hey, Detective Brenshaw, the AT&T CEO was shanked, did you hear?"

"No, I didn't, but it must be related to that kid who jokingly called for an attack on a mac news website months ago, you know, that one we rigorously monitor?!"

"Right!"

For some reason the CEO being shanked jailhouse style isn't one of my greatest worries.

Well, I'm off to seek maturation.

You've got to understand that some may be a little sensitive to bad jokes about committing unnecessary act of violence because someone didn't get their way. Too many of us are ranting and screaming when we don't get our way in even the most minute and trivial matters. Not happy with a telecom company's rates? Be disappointed, but your life will go on.

A buddy of mine had to bury his little sister this weekend after she was killed in the shootings at Northern Illinois University by a deranged someone who wasn't getting his way. Not saying that you shouldn't have a sense of humor, but please realize when -- to some -- you may cross that line and appear to be nothing more than a whining, unfunny, insensitive ass.

pseudonymph
Feb 20, 2008, 05:05 PM
You're not alone. I live in South Florida too and my iPhone has dropped a good amount of calls, no matter who I'm talking to. And the reception indoor TOTALLY SUCKS, even inside a grocery store or something.
I'm not sure if it's AT&T or if it's the phone itself - considering taking it back to :apple: and have it checked before the warranty expires.

i don't know, i get full bars and 3g here in west boca. ATT has been much better than sprint

mediumofmeaning
Feb 20, 2008, 05:09 PM
You've got to understand that some may be a little sensitive to bad jokes about committing unnecessary act of violence because someone didn't get their way. Too many of us are ranting and screaming when we don't get our way in even the most minute and trivial matters. Not happy with a telecom company's rates? Be disappointed, but your life will go on.

A buddy of mine had to bury his little sister this weekend after she was killed in the shootings at Northern Illinois University by a deranged someone who wasn't getting his way. Not saying that you shouldn't have a sense of humor, but please realize when -- to some -- you may cross that line and appear to be nothing more than a whining, unfunny, insensitive ass.

Way to go. You've somehow drawn a loose parallel between my admittedly facetious comments and the acts of a mentally deranged psychotic bastard murdering students. This conversation is entirely futile, and I don't feel like going on with it anymore than anyone cares to read this. So if you or anyone else insists on pursuing the unnecessary, let's do it through private messages.

chicagostars
Feb 20, 2008, 05:52 PM
Way to go. You've somehow drawn a loose parallel between my admittedly facetious comments and the acts of a mentally deranged psychotic bastard murdering students. This conversation is entirely futile, and I don't feel like going on with it anymore than anyone cares to read this. So if you or anyone else insists on pursuing the unnecessary, let's do it through private messages.

Friend, as I mentioned before, I'm not telling you to not have a sense of humor, nor do I expect some statement of contrition, but know that you opened the door to someone else possibly having issue with your comments.

I agree that we don't need to have some long, drawn out series of dueling posts over this, but facetious or not, sometimes words can spark unintended or undesired responses.

BTW, you're no mentally deranged psychotic bastard to me. :)

teknishn
Feb 20, 2008, 06:24 PM
Agreed! My iPhone drops calls daily, often has no signal.
Absolutly the worst " cellphone" I've ever had. Love it for everything else it does though.

Does not even work in the airport in baggage!

BTW - we are in Tucson, AZ.

I live in Marana and work all over Tucson. I have had ZERO issues and virtually no dropped calls in my 6 months of iPhone use. In fact, it has been the best phone I've used to date for signal and lack of dropped calls. I even got a weak signal at Rose Canyon near Mt Lemmon and was able to make calls.

I would say you either live in a dead zone or have a bad phone that needs to be replaced under warranty.

maceleven
Feb 20, 2008, 06:28 PM
when I walk my dog around the block I loose reception all the time. I don't get it. I bought my phone in December 2007, can I get an exchange? I've even called AT&T to tell them that the reception is awful in my neck of the woods. I have checked the coverage map and it says I'm in the best place to get full bars. I have never jail-broken or done any modding to the phone. It was also a brand new sim card. I switched from T-Mobile where I had great coverage and rarely dropped calls. oh well?

drain your battery and tell them it drops to many calls ,and the battery sucks:confused:

mediumofmeaning
Feb 20, 2008, 06:45 PM
Friend, as I mentioned before, I'm not telling you to not have a sense of humor, nor do I expect some statement of contrition, but know that you opened the door to someone else possibly having issue with your comments.

I agree that we don't need to have some long, drawn out series of dueling posts over this, but facetious or not, sometimes words can spark unintended or undesired responses.

BTW, you're no mentally deranged psychotic bastard to me. :)

I see where you're coming from. Settled it is.

Hooka
Feb 21, 2008, 04:01 PM
I'll give you all an update. AT&T called apple and I have a apoitment at the bar tomorrow. The girl from apple, who was very nice told me they would most likely exchange my phone. I'll let you all know what happens. Thanks for the advice.

What a difference a day makes, Apple exchanged my 3 month old phone for a new one and ATT is sending me some updates for my sim card. I told them I was have a bunch of GSM noise when the phone was next to any kind of speaker. It's doing it restore and i took the sim card out for 20 seconds we shall see what happens.

I think it is strange how quickly Apple will exchange a phone. We should do a poll, how many have had to exchange an iphone for what ever reason?

anthonymoody
Feb 22, 2008, 09:27 AM
Well, I went on ATT.com this morning and changed my plan to the new $99 unlimited. It kept my existing data services ($20 + the $10 bump for more texts). HOWEVER, it doesn't take effect immediately. It says it'll take effect on 2/29, a week from now.

Not sure if this is just because this is a brand new plan, or if ATT's back end systems simply suck. But coming from TMobile, where switches were instantaneous, this is disappointing...

Anyway, I'll now pay $130/mo for unlimited voice and data, and practically unlimited texts. That's down from $140/mo for 4000 minutes. I'm pretty happy about that!

TM

davids8477
Feb 22, 2008, 09:40 AM
I have a Family Plan (2 Iphones) with 2100 minutes.

Called AT&T to get details on the $99.99 unlimited.

Answer was I would have to get the $99.99 plan for EACH phone PLUS add back in the data plan!!!

This would mean an increased in monthly cost of about $60!!

Oh well, makes you want to unlock your phone!

dsgalit
Feb 22, 2008, 04:52 PM
Just wondering, does this also apply to Gophone plans?

zenntench_oni
Feb 22, 2008, 09:34 PM
i was about to change my plan to the unlimited voice plan today. but i rather save a bit of money. and also my girlfriend (well me actually) bought a gophone today so i can talk to her during the weekdays and not use my minutes XD.

grahambrunk
Feb 24, 2008, 05:45 PM
Why would you want unlimited calls on your iphone? My iphone sounds like crap and i can never get a signal, I drop call constantly, it is a complete nightmare, I live in South Florida, anyone else have this problem? Don't get me wrong it does some cool things and it's a great ipod but as a phone, come on? I drop calls on I-95, in Miami Fort Lauderdale home to 5,000,000 people.

I live in South, FL and i have had no problems at all with the iPhone!! I even find AT&T EDGE faster here than anywhere else i have been, especially not where you are in Ft Lauderdale. You shouldn't be talking on the phone on i-95 anyways, we dont need more bad drivers there :P

jlanuez
Feb 26, 2008, 05:06 PM
I live in Marana and work all over Tucson. I have had ZERO issues and virtually no dropped calls in my 6 months of iPhone use. In fact, it has been the best phone I've used to date for signal and lack of dropped calls. I even got a weak signal at Rose Canyon near Mt Lemmon and was able to make calls.

I would say you either live in a dead zone or have a bad phone that needs to be replaced under warranty.


Well, my wife also has an iPhone and it is equally bad in similar locations. Many dead spots in Tucson!

babalou
Feb 26, 2008, 05:32 PM
Just wondering, does this also apply to Gophone plans?

I am wondering the same thing because I want to upgrade my plan but don't want to use one of the existing gophone plans if there is an unlimited deal available. If someone knows, please share with the rest of us.:confused:

morley
Mar 1, 2008, 09:06 AM
I have the same problem...dropped calls all over the area and hard to hear. I live in the Los Angeles Ca.

AJsAWiz
Mar 2, 2008, 10:06 AM
$99 sounds like a good deal if:
You have no land line
You run out of your allotted minutes each month

Me . . . . I am hard pressed to use my rollover minutes before they expire :p