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MacRumors
Oct 8, 2001, 05:47 PM
Rumors that current Powerbooks are End-of-Lifed (EOL'd) have been circulating... hinting at new Powerbooks in the pipe...

CubeZone posts (http://www.cube-zone.com) about an Ad that hints of new laptops:

We also have spotted an ad in a French Mac magazine about new Apple products. There is the new Quicksilver and the new iMacs introduced at MWNY, the iBook...and two PowerBooks. The low-end one is a 500 Mhz one and the high-end is a 600 Mhz. We do not think that it is a typo.

[Edited by Macrumors on 10-09-2001 at 03:06 PM]

lucs
Oct 8, 2001, 09:45 PM
i think the big question left is whether the new Ti G4s are going to have the so awaited slot loading CDRW/DVD drive.
anyone has any updates on that?

john123
Oct 8, 2001, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by lucs
i think the big question left is whether the new Ti G4s are going to have the so awaited slot loading CDRW/DVD drive.
anyone has any updates on that?

No, but I hope it's just an option. I sure as hell don't want to pay for that.

What I do hope is standard is the new ATI RADEON mobile chipset. That or a GeForce2Go chipset. If neither of those is in there, I swear I'm jumping ship to go buy a Dell.

ThlayliTheFierce
Oct 9, 2001, 02:29 AM
Just as long as you don't buy a Gateway.

GPTurismo
Oct 9, 2001, 10:07 AM
Traitors.

:D

GeForce 2 Go sucks down to much power. So does the Radeon. Maybe a 16 meg Rage. I'm not worried about 3D graphics in my laptop. As long as it can handle OS X and Emulation :D

Harder gaming is for my Desktop ;)

DarkNovaMatter
Oct 9, 2001, 10:11 AM
The radeon mobility doesn't suck all that much power out. If it was a normal radeon, then yes. In fact the new mobility radeons offer GF3 performance while maintaining a low power profile.

falc420
Oct 9, 2001, 10:59 AM
Wouldn't it be nice to see either of these chips in the next revision of the tiBook?

http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/prod_cat/prod_summary.jsp?code=MPC7440&catId=M950644686128

-Colin

Pants
Oct 9, 2001, 12:57 PM
it would be nice to see a chip on a mac that isnt 1.2 ghz behind its competitors :mad:

and judging by macosrumors today, its going to be mid to late next year before apples hardware saviour arrives...hmmpf!!

Mr. Sparkle
Oct 9, 2001, 01:16 PM
The URL in the story on the home page isn't parsing.

In other words, "CubeZone" isn't hot linked....

Looking at the post in this board, it looks like the "a href" part starts with a LT sign "<", but ends with a close-bracket "]".



--
Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiister Spaaark-le!

jeffrs
Oct 9, 2001, 02:40 PM
Well nVidia is fanatical about releasing new cards every 6 months or so... I wish more companies released products as often... and the GeForce2Go is reaching that point so it could be possible we will see a new 2go card, maybe a Titanium2Go? Plus it isn't unprecedented to see them release new hardware on the Mac first, ie GeForce3. Of course this is all mostly wishful thinking on my part =)

GadgetLover
Oct 9, 2001, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by john123
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lucs
[B]What I do hope is standard is the new ATI RADEON mobile chipset. That or a GeForce2Go chipset. If neither of those is in there, I swear I'm jumping ship to go buy a Dell.

Blasphomy! :)

a_graphic_artist
Oct 9, 2001, 09:37 PM
Along with seeing a more powerful 3D video chipset in the new Ti...

What would be even more interesting to see is a 'removable' LCD screen and optional stand to utilize it like a "desktop computer LCD" for those who would like to use their laptop as a desktop replacement, but still retain the ability to become mobile at a seconds notice.

Along with TWO or Three FireWire ports (if need be sacrifice one of the USB ports for the addtional FireWire)

How about some kind of coating that can better protect the Titanium's surface? That would be nice. Seem the finger prints and sodas splatters causes the metal to tarnish.

Lastly, it would be cool to be able to add TWO harddrives into the laptop - One to hold the OS and applications, the other for Video media or whatever else that I can think of while on the road...

Let's all pray and hope... :)

Traveler
Oct 9, 2001, 10:50 PM
Having read what MOSR has to say about Apple's processor woes I'm starting my preparations for a big dissapointment. I'm not sure what exactly to expect from the predicted Oct/Nov Ti update. Sure, a few structural and "peripheral" improvements but when it comes down to the issue of speed and power... It doesn't sound to me like any of the available options are any good and if current timetable predictions are accurate it will be at least 6 months before anything actually "interesting" happens with the g4 portable. It looks like our only hope is an out-of-the-blue type change in chip production schedules and sadly, in this modern day of rapant and unrestricted information exchange, suprises don't really exist.

Here's to hoping for the best but expecting the worst.

packrat
Oct 10, 2001, 02:41 AM
I've a need for doing digital photography work on a portable computer urgently, and since the new powerbooks with better 3d graphics and so forth wouldn't help much, I tried to go ahead and order one of the old/existing ones.

Now, after a week and a half, my order has been quietly bounced by Apple who are refusing to get any more stock of the TiBook into this country -- I've been told that I'll be waiting until the new model is announced and my order will get finalised then.

I'd say this is probably as good a sign as we're going to get that things will be happening Real Soon Now. Or possibly that Apple are cutting back on administrative costs by refusing to accept any new orders.

Pants
Oct 10, 2001, 03:39 AM
and in other news....Moto post another loss.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1590000/1590181.stm

and why two hard drives in a portable when you have a firewire port?

Kela
Oct 10, 2001, 04:28 PM
Kela is back in the house

SPG
Oct 10, 2001, 07:57 PM
To the_graphic_artist who would rather have two (or three!) firewire ports even at the expense of a USB, consider this...
Almost ALL firewire devices have two ports so you can daisy chain them together. Almost NONE of the USB devices have more than one.
Is your mouse firewire? no.
Is your printer firewire? no.
Is your digital still camera? no.
The only firewire device that I can think of that only has one port is my DV camera, and that works just fine chained through the external firewire drive.

Really want something useful on the new tiBook? How about a faster processor, 400mbit Firewire (one will do thank you), bigger harddrive, FASTER hardrive, or lower price?
In my opinion, I don't see what the brouhaha is over display cards, given the option I'd rather see money spent on better audio, more RAM or HD space.

john123
Oct 10, 2001, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by SPG

In my opinion, I don't see what the brouhaha is over display cards, given the option I'd rather see money spent on better audio, more RAM or HD space.

The "bruhaha" has to do with two things:
1) if you want to use a second monitor and not directly mirror, then you need more than 8 MB of VRAM for high resolution and 32 bit color
2) if the PowerBook is your only computer, the current video card is inadequate for fps-intensive games. While some people have the luxury of having a desktop AND a laptop, not everyone does. And besides, it's really easy to add the new ATI card in anyway -- why keep old technology? That's just patently stupid.

john123
Oct 11, 2001, 12:01 AM
http://www.thinksecret.com/features/newportables.html

New PowerBooks and iBooks in Pipeline, Resellers Say
By Nick dePlume, Publisher and Editor in Chief

In recent months, many Mac users have awaited updates to Apple's PowerBook and iBook lines.

Early this Fall, deals and price-cuts on the current PowerBook G4 paved the way for new models. Last month, we reported that Apple's original intentions were to roll out the new machines at Apple Vice President Phil Schiller's Seybold keynote in San Francisco. Delays hindered the release, however -- possibly due to sketchy shipping from Taiwan.

The long wait may be coming to an end. R etail sources say that new PowerBooks and iBooks are on the way, and soon. Apple is taking early orders from some resellers, as it has done in the past. A reseller who receives an early order form typically receives only the new model numbers and prices, a week or two in advance. While sometimes not all model numbers are listed, the reseller usually receives the units quicker after the official announcement.

According to the early order information, there will be three new iBooks (fast, faster, and fastest), and two new PowerBooks (fast, faster). Pricing will be similar to current portable pricing.

GadgetLover
Oct 11, 2001, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by john123


The "bruhaha" has to do with two things:
1) if you want to use a second monitor and not directly mirror, then you need more than 8 MB of VRAM for high resolution and 32 bit color
2) if the PowerBook is your only computer, the current video card is inadequate for fps-intensive games. While some people have the luxury of having a desktop AND a laptop, not everyone does. And besides, it's really easy to add the new ATI card in anyway -- why keep old technology? That's just patently stupid.

I have a PowerBook G3 (2000 - with Firewire). How much VRAM do I have? 8Megs? I haven't been able to find the answer anywhere. I have Fly! and want to set my resolution properly.

john123
Oct 11, 2001, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by GadgetLover
Originally posted by john123


The "bruhaha" has to do with two things:
1) if you want to use a second monitor and not directly mirror, then you need more than 8 MB of VRAM for high resolution and 32 bit color
2) if the PowerBook is your only computer, the current video card is inadequate for fps-intensive games. While some people have the luxury of having a desktop AND a laptop, not everyone does. And besides, it's really easy to add the new ATI card in anyway -- why keep old technology? That's just patently stupid.

I have a PowerBook G3 (2000 - with Firewire). How much VRAM do I have? 8Megs? I haven't been able to find the answer anywhere. I have Fly! and want to set my resolution properly.

You have 8. An ATI 128 Mobility chip.

Traveler
Oct 11, 2001, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by john123
http://www.thinksecret.com/features/newportables.html

New PowerBooks and iBooks in Pipeline, Resellers Say
By Nick dePlume, Publisher and Editor in Chief



This is the kind of exciting rumor that we all live for. And with a tentative action date of about one week it's a bolder claim than most other sites have been making. I'm not sure whether to trust it but the anticipation is already killing me.

jefhatfield
Oct 14, 2001, 09:32 AM
the end of line thing has been a good indication in the recent past for apple products

let's see at least 600 MHz G4 in the new titanium

256 MB min of RAM would be cool, too

idkew
Oct 14, 2001, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by jefhatfield
256 MB min of RAM would be cool, too

Now way, I want 0mb RAM standard. Apple way overcharges. I can get a gig elsewhere for close to what Apple charges for 512.

spikey
Oct 14, 2001, 03:57 PM
Does any1 know why Apple overcharges for RAM?

john123
Oct 14, 2001, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by idkew
Originally posted by jefhatfield
256 MB min of RAM would be cool, too

Now way, I want 0mb RAM standard. Apple way overcharges. I can get a gig elsewhere for close to what Apple charges for 512.

You can get a gig for $260, actually...which is WAY less than what Apple charges for $512.

idkew
Oct 14, 2001, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by spikey
Does any1 know why Apple overcharges for RAM?

that's where they make the big bucks. they don't profit too much on the 'book, it is the accessories that make them the cash.

DannyZR2
Oct 14, 2001, 11:46 PM
Come on people.. look at any major computer manufacturer.. Dell, Gateway, Compaq... ANY.. They all charge standard prices for RAM which IS higher than what you can get at crucial.com because think about it! They have 1 kind of memory to sell.. It is always going to be higher than what you can get at your BARGAIN shop.. also, look at one of the Memory ads in your latest MacWarehouse, or at Fry's or at CompUSA.. Memory is high there too! True the cheapest way to buy is crucial.com or some internet wholesale, but that is true in many products.. take out the third parties, because they will always be higher.

Dell's website shows the mid-line computer with 128 MB.. If you want to upgrade to 256MB, it is an extra $80. If you want two Dimms for 512MB total, it is "add $240"

So that's $80 for only 1 extra 128MB and $240 for only 384MB extra.

Apple shows $100 for 1 extra 128 MB (256MB total)
and $300 for 1 512MB DIMM (one chip rather than Dell's two).. 1 chip is better BTW cause it uses 1 less slot.