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tego10122
Mar 3, 2008, 07:34 PM
How World Of warcraft and Adobe Cs3 preforme on this machine. Im getting one in the mail tomm. :P just wanted to know.



TrueShotAura
Mar 3, 2008, 07:35 PM
Extremely sluggish. i think they can only read 1GB of ram.. Plus the GMA gpu really sucks.

cherry su
Mar 3, 2008, 07:37 PM
Well the previous poster is probably correct, so why don't you upgrade it? Drop in a T7600 (2.33GHz), 3GB of RAM, and a 7200RPM disk and you have a super mini!

tego10122
Mar 3, 2008, 07:44 PM
@ cherry , dude max is 2gb im getting it with 1gb stock. and I want to do the upgrade to a core duo 2.2ghz but what will the outcome be I might frie the mac.

tego10122
Mar 3, 2008, 07:47 PM
and on top of that lol its 600.00 for the pross :P way too much.

cherry su
Mar 3, 2008, 07:53 PM
@ cherry , dude max is 2gb im getting it with 1gb stock. and I want to do the upgrade to a core duo 2.2ghz but what will the outcome be I might frie the mac.

nope max is 3GB Apple has been lying to you. Screw dual channel!

tego10122
Mar 3, 2008, 07:55 PM
Intel Yonah T2600 Core Duo 2.16Ghz 2.16/2M/667/SL8VN << will that work ?

cherry su
Mar 3, 2008, 07:56 PM
Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 2.00GHz << will that work?

No, that needs a LGA775 socket. Mac mini uses a notebook processor with Socket M

ziwi
Mar 3, 2008, 07:56 PM
for the cost of upgrading the processor and Ram - one would think a nice refurb C2D would be in reach...

tego10122
Mar 3, 2008, 08:05 PM
Very true.

tego10122
Mar 3, 2008, 08:16 PM
Found the upgrade I guess just need some one to ver.

Model
Brand Intel
Processors Type Desktop
Series Core 2 Duo
Model BX80557E4500
CPU Socket Type
CPU Socket Type LGA 775
Tech Spec
Core Allendale
Multi-Core Dual-Core
Name Core 2 Duo E4500
Operating Frequency 2.2GHz
FSB 800MHz
L1 Cache 32KB+32KB
L2 Cache 2M shared
Manufacturing Tech 65 nm
64 bit Support Yes
Virtualization Technology Support Yes
Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T
Voltage 0.962V-1.325V

Cave Man
Mar 3, 2008, 08:34 PM
nope max is 3GB Apple has been lying to you. Screw dual channel!

The Core Solo and Core Duo Minis were firmware restricted to 2 gigs max.

Cave Man
Mar 3, 2008, 08:34 PM
@ cherry , dude max is 2gb im getting it with 1gb stock. and I want to do the upgrade to a core duo 2.2ghz but what will the outcome be I might frie the mac.

If you're going to that much trouble, you ought to put in a Core 2 Duo. T7400, T7600, the such.

tego10122
Mar 3, 2008, 08:37 PM
Thanks CaveMan.

cherry su
Mar 3, 2008, 09:24 PM
The Core Solo and Core Duo Minis were firmware restricted to 2 gigs max.

Crap! Brain fart! Core Solo/Duo were 32bit, so Apple said they could only support 2GB. Hoover dam it!

If you're going to that much trouble, you ought to put in a Core 2 Duo. T7400, T7600, the such.

Unfortunately the T7(even#)00 and X7900 won't fit into the socket cuz they use Socket P instead of Socket M

cherry su
Mar 3, 2008, 09:25 PM
Found the upgrade I guess just need some one to ver.

Model
Brand Intel
Processors Type Desktop
Series Core 2 Duo
Model BX80557E4500
CPU Socket Type
CPU Socket Type LGA 775
Tech Spec
Core Allendale
Multi-Core Dual-Core
Name Core 2 Duo E4500
Operating Frequency 2.2GHz
FSB 800MHz
L1 Cache 32KB+32KB
L2 Cache 2M shared
Manufacturing Tech 65 nm
64 bit Support Yes
Virtualization Technology Support Yes
Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T
Voltage 0.962V-1.325V

Won't work. the Mac mini uses LAPTOP components. That chip is for DESKTOPS. Bummer. :(

sowillo14
Mar 3, 2008, 09:25 PM
Extremely sluggish. i think they can only read 1GB of ram.. Plus the GMA gpu really sucks.

You're wrong bub, 2gigs. I had cs3 running good on a PPC mini with 1gig.:)
Dag!! should have known, got beat to it by about 4 posters, SORRY!

Cave Man
Mar 3, 2008, 10:00 PM
Unfortunately the T7(even#)00 and X7900 won't fit into the socket cuz they use Socket P instead of Socket M

Perhaps you should tell that to all the people who have already done it (http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/582.html).

Cave Man
Mar 3, 2008, 10:07 PM
Crap! Brain fart! Core Solo/Duo were 32bit, so Apple said they could only support 2GB. Hoover dam it!

No, it's because Apple limited the addressing in the Core Solo and Core Duo models. The Intel Minis all use the same Calistoga chipset (i.e., memory controller) which can take Yonah (Core Solo/Duo) or Merom (Core 2 Duo) processors. All Core 2 Duo revisions can give you 3.1 gb of RAM with two 2-gig sticks, while the Core Solo/Duo revisions can only give you 2 gigs. If you put a Core 2 Duo processor in a Core Solo/Duo Mini, you'll still only get 2 gigs max because you cannot change the firmware.

4JNA
Mar 3, 2008, 11:19 PM
Unfortunately the T7(even#)00 and X7900 won't fit into the socket cuz they use Socket P instead of Socket M

Perhaps you should tell that to all the people who have already done it.

like me.:) a long time ago with the same 1.5 core solo system. thread HERE (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=238912) but there are several others floating around the imac/emac/mini forum.

upgraded to a T7200, and it's still working fine today, and it is limited to 2gb. just watch out that you don't break the white pins/clips, and that you don't rip off the temp sensor when you remove the heatsink.

oh yeah, and test it BEFORE you put the cover back on...;)

tego10122
Mar 4, 2008, 12:08 AM
It is rather expensive tho its 400.00 for that id sell my mini for 350.00 and buy a cheap macbook pro used for 800.00. Unless some one can find it for cheap.


Ebay - NEW Intel BX80537T7600 Core2 Duo T7600 2.33GHz Mobile $742.75
Shipping: Not specified

Ebay - Intel T7400 L2 4MB 2.16GHz for Laptop & Mini PC upgrade $380.00 shipped.

tego10122
Mar 4, 2008, 12:31 AM
lol Bought one Intel Core2 Duo Mobile Processor T7200 - 2.0Ghz/4M/667 , hope its compatible lol

Cave Man
Mar 4, 2008, 08:27 AM
lol Bought one Intel Core2 Duo Mobile Processor T7200 - 2.0Ghz/4M/667 , hope its compatible lol

You'll see a very nice performance increase. Two cores, faster cycles and double the cache. Make sure you apply adequate heat sink compound when you reassemble it.

fanboy
Mar 4, 2008, 09:04 AM
I'm upgrading my 1st gen CD mini to get a couple of more years of life out of it. I ordered a T2700 2.33 GHz Yonah off of ebay for $188 shipped. I'll let you know when, if, I receive it and whether it works. AFIK, the CD mini's only take upto 2 GB of ram. It'll be great if someone figures out how to flash the CD mini with C2D mini's firmware. I also ordered a Hitachi Travelstar 200 GB 7200 RPM HD (newegg $150 shipped after rebate). The combination of the faster CPU and HD should significantly boost performance of my 1.66/2GB/80GB/CD mini.

cherry su
Mar 4, 2008, 03:52 PM
Perhaps you should tell that to all the people who have already done it (http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/582.html).

Never mind. I meant T7(odd#)00 (the SR-based chips)

cherry su
Mar 4, 2008, 03:54 PM
I'm upgrading my 1st gen CD mini to get a couple of more years of life out of it. I ordered a T2700 2.33 GHz Yonah off of ebay for $188 shipped. I'll let you know when, if, I receive it and whether it works. AFIK, the CD mini's only take upto 2 GB of ram. It'll be great if someone figures out how to flash the CD mini with C2D mini's firmware. I also ordered a Hitachi Travelstar 200 GB 7200 RPM HD (newegg $150 shipped after rebate). The combination of the faster CPU and HD should significantly boost performance of my 1.66/2GB/80GB/CD mini.

Wow, that's gotta be one fast mini! Unfortunately you didn't get a T7600 chip, which has double the cache (and double the price!) Enjoy your purchase anyway! Your mini is faster than my MacBook Pro :D