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Heart Break Kid
Nov 4, 2003, 02:19 PM
is there anyway to check your hotmail account in MAIL.APP in Panther?



Falleron
Nov 4, 2003, 02:37 PM
I read you could. Not tried it though + not sure what settings are needed. Intersted to know though.

Thirteenva
Nov 4, 2003, 02:41 PM
Yes download this plug-in for mail.app.

It works pretty well.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/httpmail-plugin

illumin8
Nov 4, 2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Thirteenva
Yes download this plug-in for mail.app.

It works pretty well.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/httpmail-plugin
Thanks so much! This rocks and I didn't even know it existed.

Heart Break Kid
Nov 4, 2003, 05:29 PM
that app doesnt seem to work in panther

all seems to work well and then when i check the account types HTTP is not in the list

ahh welll - guess im stuck using safari to check my hotmail

Thirteenva
Nov 4, 2003, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Heart Break Kid
that app doesnt seem to work in panther

all seems to work well and then when i check the account types HTTP is not in the list

ahh welll - guess im stuck using safari to check my hotmail

Version 1.3 does run in panther, make sure you read the install instructions. Mine works fine under panther.

daveyt
Nov 4, 2003, 05:54 PM
try uninstalling and then re-installing...didn't work for me the first time, but I was diligent and tried again. Like a dream...

Foucault
Nov 4, 2003, 06:19 PM
Does it allow you to send e-mail via mail.app or does it just let you fetch the mail from hotmail?

Frisco
Nov 4, 2003, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by Foucault
Does it allow you to send e-mail via mail.app or does it just let you fetch the mail from hotmail?

Send and Receive via Mail App

rainman::|:|
Nov 4, 2003, 08:15 PM
keep in mind that this is just a patch, and MS could easily make it non-functional just by changing Hotmail enough. web-based accounts like Hotmail were never meant to be accessed by normal mail programs, except MailAndNews.com (when it existed) gave you free POP3 accounts...

the best option is to get a better account somewhere. anywhere. POP3 accounts are a dime a dozen, ISPs give them out like candy.

:)

pnw

JohnGillilan
Nov 4, 2003, 08:23 PM
Does anyone know if there is a plugin/patch to recieve AOL mail through Apple's "Mail"?

Frisco
Nov 4, 2003, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by JohnGillilan
Does anyone know if there is a plugin/patch to recieve AOL mail through Apple's "Mail"?

Mail Forward X (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/14848)

It only forwards to another email address. Don't know if it works in Panther.

JohnGillilan
Nov 4, 2003, 09:00 PM
Yeah, it works great. Thanks so much!!! I was always under the impression that it was impossible to get AOL into a mail client. Thanks again!!

jrv3034
Nov 4, 2003, 09:22 PM
How about Yahoo mail on Mail in Panther? Is that one possible?

JohnGillilan
Nov 4, 2003, 09:24 PM
Yeah. Mail Forward X supports the following types: AOL, Hotmail, MSN, Yahoo, and POP. Great piece of software. Works for 30 days, then you need to pay $15. I paid already -- its definitely worth it.

iEric
Nov 5, 2003, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Frisco
Send and Receive via Mail App

Can I delete??

Frisco
Nov 6, 2003, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by iEric
Can I delete??

Messages are not removed from the server when you put them into the trash. For them to be removed from the server you need to use the "Erase Deleted Messages" item from the "Mailbox" menu or press Applebutton and K

iEric
Nov 6, 2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Frisco
Messages are not removed from the server when you put them into the trash. For them to be removed from the server you need to use the "Erase Deleted Messages" item from the "Mailbox" menu or press Applebutton and K

Oh okay, so you can delete them off the server. Thanks man!

cb911
Nov 6, 2003, 03:25 PM
i'm having some problems installing that plug-in and getting it to work.

i followed the instructions and re-named the folder from 'Bundles (disabled)' to 'Bundles', but i don't get the option for 'httpmail' account type. all it has is .Mac, POP, IMAP and Exchange. and now this morning it doesn't even have the 'Exchange' option.

can anyone help me out?

beefcake
Nov 6, 2003, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by cb911
i'm having some problems installing that plug-in and getting it to work.

i followed the instructions and re-named the folder from 'Bundles (disabled)' to 'Bundles', but i don't get the option for 'httpmail' account type. all it has is .Mac, POP, IMAP and Exchange. and now this morning it doesn't even have the 'Exchange' option.

can anyone help me out?
I had the same exact problem. Quit out of mail, and run the terminal command again, then quit terminal and close the finder window (don't know if this really matters) and open Mail again. This worked for me.

Laslo Panaflex
Nov 6, 2003, 05:38 PM
I set up the account and everything seems to be fine and I try to fetch mail from my account and it says there are no new messages, which is bogus.

What gives?

cb911
Nov 6, 2003, 08:25 PM
thanks beefcake. it all works now. :D

Laslo Panaflex, i don't know what you can do. you could try beefcake's suggestion a couple of times, and then just make sure that you enter all he right settings.

i also just realised that the reason i got a Hotmail account was so i didn't get junk and stuff sent to my proper account, and i didn't have to read it from Mail. oh well...

also, when you access Hotmail from Mail.app it registers on Hotmail.com that you've logged in doesn't it? so now i don't have to make sure i visit Hotmail at least once every month so my account doesn't de-activate? that's going to be handy. :)

beefcake
Nov 6, 2003, 10:33 PM
cb911, i realized the exact same thing as I watched Mail download 200 messages, so I just split accounts up into Mailboxes (by checking some preference box). Keeps the plague that is hotmail spam out of my regular mailbox.

Squire
Nov 6, 2003, 11:01 PM
That Hotmail trick is useful. I'll have to try it when I get Panther.

I'm having trouble logging in to .mac on my PC. I want to be able to check my "Mail" at work but every time I log in, I get an error message ("Page can't be found" or something). Anyone else had difficulty? What's the minimum system requirements for a PC to access .Mac?

Squire

joshuwa72
Nov 12, 2003, 08:29 AM
wouldnt you be able to just open outlook on a pc, copy the information it uses for hotmail, and then enter that in mail.app?

im new to mac so i dont know mail's features, but this is what i was hoping i would be able to do.

jelwell
Nov 12, 2003, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by joshuwa72
wouldnt you be able to just open outlook on a pc, copy the information it uses for hotmail, and then enter that in mail.app?


No. Outlook & Outlook Express work with hotmail because surprise, they're both Microsoft applications and Hotmail is a microsoft email service. You have to pay to check hotmail mail with a client other than Outlook/Outlook Express. Microsoft does this to lock you into their client. Yahoo does something similar, but they don't have an email cilent, that I know of, so I suppose they do it simply to generate revenue.

What has been presented in this discussion is http_mail, which is a hack to allow mail.app to use hotmail, even though you're not paying for the extra service.

joe.

kenbaby
Nov 16, 2003, 07:44 PM
At the second time, finally 'httpmail' appeared in the account type pull-down manu.

How should I set the "outgoing mail server?"

They don't mention anything about it in the "read me" file. I tried to set it as "smtp.verizon.net" since I'm using Verizon DSA service but it seems to change to 'None' every time I close the preference window.

BTW, I have some messages in the mailbox of Hotmail but they don't seem to be downloaded. Even the new emails. What's going on?

Of course I have checked the setting and all many times to make sure I didn't make any mistakes in the process except for SMTP server part.

Thirteenva
Nov 16, 2003, 08:19 PM
Just set the outgoing mail server to be

hotmail.com and with username and password authentication.

abhishekit
Nov 16, 2003, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by kenbaby
At the second time, finally 'httpmail' appeared in the account type pull-down manu.

How should I set the "outgoing mail server?"

They don't mention anything about it in the "read me" file. I tried to set it as "smtp.verizon.net" since I'm using Verizon DSA service but it seems to change to 'None' every time I close the preference window.

BTW, I have some messages in the mailbox of Hotmail but they don't seem to be downloaded. Even the new emails. What's going on?

Of course I have checked the setting and all many times to make sure I didn't make any mistakes in the process except for SMTP server part.


i am having the same experience.. even after setting the outgoing server as hotmail.com with my username and password, when i save it and recheck it it shows none. and when i try to send a mail using that server, it fails...
any help??