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mrat93
May 28, 2008, 02:46 PM
I was searching my Mac for the iPhone SDK dmg file because I never used it and I wanted to delete it. I found a file titled "iPhone.icns" in Macintosh HD>Developer>Platforms>Aspen.platform>Developer>Library>Xcode>Plug-ins>AspenSupport.xcodeplugin>Contents>Resources.

In the file was a group of icons and pictures of the iPhone, and one looked different. Anybody know what this is? Could it be the 3g iPhone? I doubt it, but I still find it interesting.



gloss
May 28, 2008, 02:49 PM
Matches the thinner front bezel on the most recent leak pics. That would be pretty cool.

http://www.anonymousonlineserver.com/2a.jpg

mrat93
May 28, 2008, 02:58 PM
I just searched the file name in Google and it doesn't look like anybody else has posted this before.

brn2ski00
May 28, 2008, 03:04 PM
Holy smokes! Amazing find! I bet this is the 3G iPhone!

good work!

Chris Bangle
May 28, 2008, 03:06 PM
that is the best photo ive seen for months... In comparison could you upload a picture of a normal iphone graphic from the sidebar, (the pic above this one).. even from the small pics the bottom of the present iphone looks much rounder

brn2ski00
May 28, 2008, 03:06 PM
that is the best photo ive seen for months... In comparison could you upload a picture of a normal iphone graphic from the sidebar, (the pic above this one).. even from the small pics the bottom of the present iphone looks much rounder

Good idea! Let's see both of them side by side (I am at work) :D

Auzburner
May 28, 2008, 03:07 PM
Man this is a great find, which version of the SDK do you have?

mrat93
May 28, 2008, 03:08 PM
Man this is a great find, which version of the SDK do you have?

I think I just have the 1st version, I never used it.

brn2ski00
May 28, 2008, 03:09 PM
Post some more close up pics!

t0mat0
May 28, 2008, 03:09 PM
It's kinda hard to compare between the different images - what's different exactly?

Hecklerdanny
May 28, 2008, 03:09 PM
This is a fun and torturous time to be an Apple fan. We get little trickles of information leaked in here and there. Always lots of good rumors to check out this close to something "big" from Apple.

heyp
May 28, 2008, 03:09 PM
I just searched the file name in Google and it doesn't look like anybody else has posted this before.

excuse my ignorance... how does it look different?

Chris Bangle
May 28, 2008, 03:10 PM
the black border around the screen has the illusion of being much bigger and the sides are definatly more defined. Thanks Apple for giving us this gift of seeing what the 3g iphone looks like

brn2ski00
May 28, 2008, 03:11 PM
excuse my ignorance... how does it look different?

It definitely has a thinner bezel and more of a squashed look.. probably thinner too!

mrat93
May 28, 2008, 03:11 PM
excuse my ignorance... how does it look different?

The current iPhone looks rounder.
The top speaker looks higher.
Side buttons look a little different to me.
Chrome bezel looks narrower.

txr0ckabilly
May 28, 2008, 03:12 PM
how 'bout clicking that zoom button and taking another screenshot please :)

David G.
May 28, 2008, 03:12 PM
The current iPhone looks rounder.
The top speaker looks higher.
Side buttons look a little different to me.
Chrome bezel looks narrower.

I bet Apple's going, "Oh ****." right now.

mrat93
May 28, 2008, 03:12 PM
Post some more close up pics!

The one I posted before was the original size. I just enlarged it.

Auzburner
May 28, 2008, 03:14 PM
okay I have like the 3rd or 4th version and just found it.... it's difficult to see the differences, but it seem the edges are different (very minor differences) almost as if Apple messed up the scaling of the images just for the iCons... I'm not so sure this is any type of leak....

londondude
May 28, 2008, 03:15 PM
I also found this after looking at the map of how to get it and to me it looks like the iphone i have now. There is the ipod and the iphone icon files.

sorry to be a party pooper.

mrat93
May 28, 2008, 03:17 PM
okay I have like the 3rd or 4th version and just found it.... it's difficult to see the differences, but it seem the edges are different (very minor differences) almost as if Apple messed up the scaling of the images just for the iCons... I'm not so sure this is any type of leak....

Only your first pic shows the different one.

Chris Bangle
May 28, 2008, 03:17 PM
theres no hold button

Auzburner
May 28, 2008, 03:18 PM
Only your first pic shows the different one.

Right, I simply wanted to provide all of the icons for means of comparison...

mrat93
May 28, 2008, 03:19 PM
Just an additional note: The ones that look the same as the current iPhone now, the buttons are backwards. Sleep/wake is on the left, ringer/volume on the right.

gloss
May 28, 2008, 03:19 PM
Only your first pic shows the different one.

Yeah, the first picture had a thinner bezel and buttons on the left (which also matches the recent photo leak). That one has a thicker chrome bezel and buttons on the right.

SFStateStudent
May 28, 2008, 03:21 PM
I'm a bit skeptical, since the iPhone looks a bit wider in comparison to the one I have in my hand; and the buttons on the left side as you are facing the iPhone, look as if they are too high and are not appropriately spaced as on v1, almost as if it were not allowing for the curve of the iPhone at that "silence button." It just doesn't look right! Nice try, but I'll wait until the ACTUAL release of v2. :eek::cool:

Chris Bangle
May 28, 2008, 03:21 PM
what i meant to say was... theres no ON/OFF button on the iphone 2 pic

phinnaeus
May 28, 2008, 03:22 PM
The fact that this is in the SDK makes me doubt even more that any of these leaked photos represent the final design of the 2nd generation iPhone.

Auzburner
May 28, 2008, 03:24 PM
By the way the iPod Touch icons don't have a hold button at all...

Auzburner
May 28, 2008, 03:27 PM
By the way the iPod Touch icons don't have a hold button at all...

Although I suppose you cannot see the hold button facing the front of a Touch as easy...

mrat93
May 28, 2008, 03:29 PM
By the way the iPod Touch icons don't have a hold button at all...

It's not in any of these.

Auzburner
May 28, 2008, 03:32 PM
Yeah the hold button on the Touch' is on the curve of the top-back portion.

Chris Bangle
May 28, 2008, 03:32 PM
Although I suppose you cannot see the hold button facing the front of a Touch as easy...


very true.. i hate getting my hopes up when it comes to apple rumors but this is close to all the other "spyshots" and descriptions we've had, this could be very good but it could also be bad..

But i think that these are accurate...

Just think, one day we will have an iphone that is as thin as the touch

Auzburner
May 28, 2008, 03:36 PM
yeah, but do you necessarily want something that thin to hold against your ear - much easier to drop a touch with that thickness, but who knows.... In the end no matter how many rumors that come up - what we have in the end is all that matters...

Chris Bangle
May 28, 2008, 03:40 PM
yeah, but do you necessarily want something that thin to hold against your ear - much easier to drop a touch with that thickness, but who knows.... In the end no matter how many rumors that come up - what we have in the end is all that matters...


i didnt even think of that. i just hope the back isn't plastic. the back is unique and plastic will degrade it.

kornyboy
May 28, 2008, 03:45 PM
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I really like this one. I hope that we see a 3G iPhone that looks similar to the current model.

Auzburner
May 28, 2008, 03:47 PM
I'm downloading the brand new version of the iPhone SDK Beta now - Let's see what's in there now...

Auzburner
May 28, 2008, 03:53 PM
It appears the Touch has identical differences....?

phinnaeus
May 28, 2008, 03:55 PM
Going with the theory that this is the 2nd generation iPhone, having a new matching touch would make sense... they could add GPS and up the storage/battery life with the new form factor.

Auzburner
May 28, 2008, 03:58 PM
I'm not saying this is a possible new one... I'm thinking it may be when they created the icon's is changed the 3rd image for some reason on both? I really don't know - Both COULD be new, but who knows...

Auzburner
May 28, 2008, 04:16 PM
iPhone Beta version 6 installed and the icons are no longer in the same location - don't know where they went...

phinnaeus
May 28, 2008, 04:17 PM
[snip] Never mind.

NewSc2
May 28, 2008, 04:18 PM
I don't know, I think somebody just didn't really bother making the iPhone icon perfect. Has anybody compared the Macbook Pro icon with an actual Macbook Pro, and etc.?

stagi
May 28, 2008, 04:22 PM
I bet its just an old icon.

Mykbibby
May 28, 2008, 04:32 PM
I hope thats not it... no front camera!

Pippen Man
May 28, 2008, 05:00 PM
I hope thats not it... no front camera!

The image looks just like a child of the iPod touch. Not as roundy edges, much for square like, and no chrome around the edges. After all these months, I can soon call iPhone 2.0 the son of my iPod touch! Hooray! I'm' going to be an uncle!:)

Peace
May 28, 2008, 05:01 PM
These are old icons and the location of the images have been relocated. I looked at them and it's just the rev. A iPhone.

Move along. Nothing to see here.

maokh
May 28, 2008, 05:02 PM
:rolleyes:
im sure its just an artist rendition, put into the aspect ratio and size that was specified to him/her.

thaitillidie
May 28, 2008, 05:14 PM
I was searching my Mac for the iPhone SDK dmg file because I never used it and I wanted to delete it. I found a file titled "iPhone.icns" in Macintosh HD>Developer>Platforms>Aspen.platform>Developer>Library>Xcode>Plug-ins>AspenSupport.xcodeplugin>Contents>Resources.

In the file was a group of icons and pictures of the iPhone, and one looked different. Anybody know what this is? Could it be the 3g iPhone? I doubt it, but I still find it interesting.


LMAO how long did it take you to come up with this scheme and what were you aiming to become, some sorta rumor superstar?? In a hugely hilarious and ironic twist if you use your current iPhone to tap and enlarge the image you can CLEARLY distinguish the blurriness of the metal bezel on the right-side image --- the so-called "could-this-really-be-IT?" ultimate photo leak! And yes while it is admitted that the image was enlarged, that's the full and pathetic extent of it --- somebody's lame attempt to take a gen1 iPhone and manipulate the image to create unnecessary and unwarranted buzz within this forum! IT'S THE SAME FREAKIN' PHONE (both images), PEOPLE!! So consider yourself BUSTED, partna!!!

I am, however, awestruck at the size of your balls for tryna sneak this one pass us.

[EDIT]: Oops did I post this on the wrong user LOL? Well if I did everybody knows which image I was referring to. Btw I blame this rather embarassing screw-up on my iPhone. I use it to read and respond to this site...and it's kinda tricky to navigate around inside a 3-inch screen and still keep my latitudinal and longitudinal bearings hehe! Oh yeah and I'm still technically a macrumors newbie n tryna get a feel for the place.

xhambonex
May 28, 2008, 05:17 PM
really guys, its an icon, do you know how many icons are out there for iphones, ipods, etc. Somebody probably made that one and didn't really bother to make sure it was EXACTLY perfect. Its just a graphic...lets not get carried away.

mrat93
May 28, 2008, 05:26 PM
LMAO how long did it take you to come up with this scheme and what were you aiming to become, some sorta rumor superstar?? In a hugely hilarious and ironic twist if you use your current iPhone to tap and enlarge the image you can CLEARLY distinguish the blurriness of the metal bezel on the right-side image --- the so-called "could-this-really-be-IT?" ultimate photo leak! And yes while it is admitted that the image was enlarged, that's the full and pathetic extent of it --- somebody's lame attempt to take a gen1 iPhone and manipulate the image to create unnecessary and unwarranted buzz within this forum! IT'S THE SAME FREAKIN' PHONE (both images), PEOPLE!! So consider yourself BUSTED, partna!!!

I am, however, awestruck at the size of your balls for tryna sneak this one pass us.

O-M-F-G!!! You totally figured me out! You're just so smart, aren't you?
So I assume all of the other people who have said "oh, I have that too" are also in on my big scheme? I'm only 15, but I think I have every right to tell you to GROW UP!

EDIT: Oh yeah and I forgot to mention Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/iphone-sdk-contains-a-3g-iphone-icon/) is in on it too. "We looked ourselves and it's definitely there."

SpinThis!
May 28, 2008, 05:29 PM
I am, however, awestruck at the size of your balls
I think we need to leave these 2 alone?

No seriously... get a room already! ;)

iJesus
May 28, 2008, 05:42 PM
I think we need to leave these 2 alone?

No seriously... get a room already! ;)

No we don't. Mrat93 is only 15... here in the states it's a wee bit illegal to let him have a room with thaitillidie :p

Mykbibby
May 28, 2008, 05:47 PM
No we don't. Mrat93 is only 15... here in the states it's a wee bit illegal to let him have a room with thaitillidie :p

Thanks for the guidance iJesus ;)

MacFly123
May 28, 2008, 06:08 PM
LOL well this didn't take too long now did it??? This is insane lol, after what? an hour of them updating the SDK??? Seriously lol wow.

I think this is very probable for the new iPhone, it makes perfect sense and coincides with all the rumors. As for the front camera, I think it is there but will be hidden under the glass, so don't freak people! Apple may have made mistakes before, but not putting a front camera and iChat on the new 3G iPhone would be an IMMENSE MISTAKE!

mrat93
May 28, 2008, 06:10 PM
LOL well this didn't take too long now did it??? This is insane lol, after what? an hour of them updating the SDK??? Seriously lol wow.

I think this is very probable for the new iPhone, it makes perfect sense and coincides with all the rumors. As for the camera, I think it is there but will be hidden under the glass!

Actually, I have only the 1st beta of the SDK. Another user says its also in the 3rd or 4th version too, but apparently it has been either moved or removed from the 6th beta.

frijole
May 28, 2008, 06:13 PM
i took the next size up of both icons, and scaled them down to match. the originals are on the left, the scaled icons are on the right.

the iPod touches line up perfectly. the spacing between the top, the screen, the button, etc. the bezel color is off a little, but that's understandable from scaling and the gradient they put on there.

however, the alignment of the phone elements do not. the spacing from the top to the speaker is different, the button is a different size, etc, and the bezel is more substantially different in shape and color.

MacFly123
May 28, 2008, 06:14 PM
Actually, I have only the 1st beta of the SDK. Another user says its also in the 3rd or 4th version too, but apparently it has been either moved or removed from the 6th beta.

Oooohh. Taking that into account I don't know how valid this is then, HOWEVER, I think that is really what the new one is going to look like anyway pretty much.

Rocketman
May 28, 2008, 06:23 PM
I think there is a dedicated team of two guys at Apple monitoring forums for when Easter Eggs are discovered.

The good news is they are laughing their a$$ off at us for not discovering 2-3 things yet.

The bad news is they cannot go to the tavern until we DO find them. :)

Rocketman

ArtOfWarfare
May 28, 2008, 06:52 PM
As for the front camera, I think it is there but will be hidden under the glass, so don't freak people!

Dope-slap the questioners. It's the obvious answer. Just like the camera that I know is top and center of my iMac is there even if I can't see it.

Damn... Apple's great at hiding cameras...

...

the CIA should hire some Apple engineers to design hidden cameras.

viggen61
May 28, 2008, 07:34 PM
It's just a smaller version of the same icon. Apple pays people to touch up these icons to that they look good at all resolutions. The "thicker" sides on the screen are there just so they look good when you're displaying that 128x128 icon.

I mean, seriously, if that is the "new" iPhone, then icon 5 - the 16x16 one just has to be the iPhone Nano... :D

Oh - and in SDK beta 5 the file is now iPhoneOS.icns.

iJesus
May 28, 2008, 08:25 PM
Screenshot from Beta 6:

bucky
May 28, 2008, 09:15 PM
I agree that this is not an image of the new iphone. It looks to me like it is just a photoshop error of somebody over at apple while making the icon. I work in the advertising business and product shots are heavily manipulated in photoshop before going to the web. The images are similar enough that it is probably the current iphone.... at least this gives me something to read while waiting for details on the real phone :)

lifeinhd
May 28, 2008, 09:20 PM
Wow, I love the radical new design.

phinnaeus
May 28, 2008, 09:29 PM
Wow, I love the radical new design.

I lol'd.

jhamerphoto
May 28, 2008, 10:26 PM
who actually cares what it looks like?
we all know it's going to be almost identical to the new iPhone.
Apple only completely reinvents an image of something once it's been updated several times, and the iPhone is yet to do that.
even look at how long the classic iPod look has lasted. sure it go thinner etc, but that's just from new hardware.
in all actuality, iPods only change now to make current owners want a new one, seeing as almost everyone has one.
not everyone has an iPhone, so they'll still ride along the current iconic iPhone.

why fix it if <s>it aint broke</s> it's an apple product? :p

EDIT: apparently I can't strikethrough...and i meant the current iPhone in the second line... -_- bed time, i guess.

chuckles:)
May 28, 2008, 10:53 PM
LOL well this didn't take too long now did it??? This is insane lol, after what? an hour of them updating the SDK??? Seriously lol wow.

I think this is very probable for the new iPhone, it makes perfect sense and coincides with all the rumors. As for the front camera, I think it is there but will be hidden under the glass, so don't freak people! Apple may have made mistakes before, but not putting a front camera and iChat on the new 3G iPhone would be an IMMENSE MISTAKE!

I don't think it would be a mistake at all. I've seen video conferencing on cellphones before, and its quite useless. Mobile phones are used primarily in places where you need your eyes to be focused on something other that the screen, while driving, walking or working for example. In any of these situation, it just doesn't make sense. As well, video chat on a phone means that you have to hold the phone out in front of your face to talk. This has several negative effects. It makes you look funny to anyone who sees you. The sound is worse through the speakerphone. The mic will pick up background noise. And if you have to talk for a prolonged amount of time, your arm would get tired. Video chat works great on computers, but there are just too many obstacles for it to work on mobiles.

by the way, i think the icon is just some bad image work, but the 3G iphone probably wont deviate too far from the current design, so it could be close to what we'll see.

Mal
May 28, 2008, 10:54 PM
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As for the front camera, I think it is there but will be hidden under the glass, so don't freak people!

Dope-slap the questioners. It's the obvious answer. Just like the camera that I know is top and center of my iMac is there even if I can't see it.

Damn... Apple's great at hiding cameras...

...

the CIA should hire some Apple engineers to design hidden cameras.

See, what you're forgetting is the case manufacturer specs that have leaked. The cases would still have to leave the camera exposed, so if they're also real, then the camera would have to be in the exposed slot in the case designs.

jW

steve jr.
May 28, 2008, 11:22 PM
in regards to the front facing camera (under the glass), don't forget Apple had a patent a few years ago that was a camera made out of many sensors placed between the pixels using software to combine all the images into one large image! How about them Apples!? :apple:

-Steve

http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/26/apple-patent-embeds-thousands-of-cameras-among-lcd-pixels/

Posted April 26, 2006
"Apple goes on to suggest portable uses for the technology, such as employing the displays in cellphones and PDAs, so you can add another item to the list of features we'll be expecting from the iPhone and Newton 2.0 when they finally hit stores."

bacaramac
May 29, 2008, 12:05 AM
in regards to the front facing camera (under the glass), don't forget Apple had a patent a few years ago that was a camera made out of many sensors placed between the pixels using software to combine all the images into one large image! How about them Apples!? :apple:

-Steve

http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/26/apple-patent-embeds-thousands-of-cameras-among-lcd-pixels/

Posted April 26, 2006
"Apple goes on to suggest portable uses for the technology, such as employing the displays in cellphones and PDAs, so you can add another item to the list of features we'll be expecting from the iPhone and Newton 2.0 when they finally hit stores."

I will make sure I get the 2 year warranty if they do this. Sounds like an expensive screen to me.

pranavss11
May 29, 2008, 12:06 AM
"Is that a fly? No, no, no is it an airplane? No, no, no it's SUPERPHONE!!!!"

SFStateStudent
May 29, 2008, 12:15 AM
I'll take (2) to go please! Thanks SJ. You the MAN. :p

oyebto
May 29, 2008, 01:08 AM
all the hype man.. no other phone can compare.

mr.suff
May 29, 2008, 01:09 AM
<snip>
why fix it if <s>it aint broke</s> it's an apple product? :p
<snip>
<sarcasm>
Yeah, just like they haven't changed the nano in three generations, and how the mini was the exact same.
<sarcasm>

I think Apple will need to change the design quite a bit, as most non technologically aware consumers will just think it's the same iPhone and not get the new one if they have the 1G.
I personally couldn't care less, each time I get my iPhone out to use it I just admire it's design and build quality, no other phone I've had got me doing that.

MattyK
May 29, 2008, 02:48 AM
LOLOLOL
barnt
look at you guys, fighting over the internet about somthing that doesn't even exist yet.
bunch of losers you guys. seriously.

rrijkers
May 29, 2008, 04:02 AM
You can get the highres version of these images from the OS:

/System/Library/CoreServices/CoreTypes.bundle/Contents/Resources

iPhone.icns and iPodTouch.icns

Where the iPodTouch is the one with the blueish border.

iPhone
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9070/iphoneyn5.png

iPod Touch
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8935/ipodtouchyl9.png

;):apple:

Hudzilla
May 29, 2008, 04:07 AM
Am i missing something???

What is the difference between the icon, and the current iPhone?

rrijkers
May 29, 2008, 04:16 AM
Am i missing something???

What is the difference between the icon, and the current iPhone?

I don't see it :D

brucebrendon
May 29, 2008, 04:17 AM
in regards to the front facing camera (under the glass), don't forget Apple had a patent a few years ago that was a camera made out of many sensors placed between the pixels using software to combine all the images into one large image! How about them Apples!? :apple:

-Steve

http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/26/apple-patent-embeds-thousands-of-cameras-among-lcd-pixels/

Posted April 26, 2006
"Apple goes on to suggest portable uses for the technology, such as employing the displays in cellphones and PDAs, so you can add another item to the list of features we'll be expecting from the iPhone and Newton 2.0 when they finally hit stores."


ah, good. could be a nice tie-in with some new pro displays to then (def due).

brucebrendon
May 29, 2008, 04:19 AM
has anyone been bothered to try some overlays with the one on the WWDC image?

frijole
May 29, 2008, 07:44 AM
for those of you who can't see the difference, here's an animation.

the icon is spot-on the same as the iPod touch one, with the edge lightened and the buttons added. none of the other iPhone icons are the same as the iPod touch ones.

oops.

Aldaris
May 29, 2008, 03:03 PM
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anyone else notice that the "hold" button is on the wrong side??? Hmmm maybe the new iPhone is....

Chrisrokc
May 29, 2008, 03:12 PM
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anyone else notice that the "hold" button is on the wrong side??? Hmmm maybe the new iPhone is....

If you notice the the picture of the Griffin molds the mold is shown to have the hold buttons on the other side also.

mmoosa
May 29, 2008, 03:33 PM
the icon is spot-on the same as the iPod touch one, with the edge lightened and the buttons added. none of the other iPhone icons are the same as the iPod touch ones.

oops.

does this show that the ipod touch is also getting an upgrade(volume buttons etc)....i hope im not being a complete idiot for seeing something different.:confused:

EDIT: oooh i forgot, ur ipod touch transition animation shows it having an earpiece at the top...hmmm

Aldaris
May 29, 2008, 06:09 PM
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Chrisrokc, I do believe your mistaken- the "left original iPhone" depicts the on/off/hold button on the left side of the unit (I even looked at it again. The left picture of the mold is the back side, with the button above the camera- hmm, of we take the case designs as is- its safe to say pretty much same design, subtle differences but not enough to spend a day on. But having touch sensors for volume would be cool- limiting though, accidental volume changes would be out of control.

I'll just stick with my iPhone for now. Who knows. Only a week and a half!!!

MacFly123
May 29, 2008, 07:00 PM
I don't think it would be a mistake at all. I've seen video conferencing on cellphones before, and its quite useless. Mobile phones are used primarily in places where you need your eyes to be focused on something other that the screen, while driving, walking or working for example. In any of these situation, it just doesn't make sense. As well, video chat on a phone means that you have to hold the phone out in front of your face to talk. This has several negative effects. It makes you look funny to anyone who sees you. The sound is worse through the speakerphone. The mic will pick up background noise. And if you have to talk for a prolonged amount of time, your arm would get tired. Video chat works great on computers, but there are just too many obstacles for it to work on mobiles.

Well I basically disagree with everything you said.

Here is the thing the iPhone really is a computer. You have seen lots of crappy video chatting on phones, yes, BUT NOT APPLE STYLE! I'm not saying every call iPhone owners made would be iChat video, it wouldn't replace regular calling, it would be an addition to be used when you like just like on your computer.

Guess we'll see who is right in 10 days! ;)

Mikey B
May 29, 2008, 07:53 PM
I highly doubt that icon is the new iphone. Apple wouldn't let that slip through their fingers. It would only be in the SDK if it was restricted to the folks enrolled in the paid developers program, if at all. 98% of Apple Inc. has no idea what the iPhone looks like and there's just no way they would make that slip.

Anyway, I'm in the camp that the new phone is not going to deviate much from the first. The iPhone is an iconic device that is instantly recognized and is very symbolic of the direction Apple is heading in. They aren't going to make dramatic changes yet. Someone used the Nano as an example but I feel that was misguided. It was the 3rd gen, first of all, and the form changed because the device itself was radically changed- video. That was a bigger change to that form-factor than 3G or the rumored upgrades. It went from an audio device to one that played videos, something that simply wouldn't have worked in the original design.

Anything can happen of course, but I agree with the if it ain't broke don't fix it sentiment. Apple sticks with a design most of the time until it has to change it, either from dramatic changes in feature-sets, technology, or market factors. I dont think those requisites are being met and I think they aren't going to deviate much from the present design.

bobertoq
May 29, 2008, 08:17 PM
The current iPhone looks rounder.
The top speaker looks higher.
Side buttons look a little different to me.
Chrome bezel looks narrower.AWWWW man! Your right! I hate the chrome border....

Anyways, exciting news, nice find!

lifeinhd
May 30, 2008, 08:40 AM
I highly doubt that icon is the new iphone. Apple wouldn't let that slip through their fingers. It would only be in the SDK if it was restricted to the folks enrolled in the paid developers program, if at all. 98% of Apple Inc. has no idea what the iPhone looks like and there's just no way they would make that slip.

Anyway, I'm in the camp that the new phone is not going to deviate much from the first. The iPhone is an iconic device that is instantly recognized and is very symbolic of the direction Apple is heading in. They aren't going to make dramatic changes yet. Someone used the Nano as an example but I feel that was misguided. It was the 3rd gen, first of all, and the form changed because the device itself was radically changed- video. That was a bigger change to that form-factor than 3G or the rumored upgrades. It went from an audio device to one that played videos, something that simply wouldn't have worked in the original design.

Anything can happen of course, but I agree with the if it ain't broke don't fix it sentiment. Apple sticks with a design most of the time until it has to change it, either from dramatic changes in feature-sets, technology, or market factors. I dont think those requisites are being met and I think they aren't going to deviate much from the present design.

I agree. Apple spent tons of time working on the design for the iPhone when it first came out-- Steve said so during the keynote. It seems unlikely they would change the design now, unless they need more space for 3G or something.

Shasterball
Jun 1, 2008, 04:02 PM
I bet Apple's going, "Oh ****." right now.

Nah, I bet they don't care at this point.

Shasterball
Jun 1, 2008, 04:03 PM
LOLOLOL
barnt
look at you guys, fighting over the internet about somthing that doesn't even exist yet.
bunch of losers you guys. seriously.

Is this coming from a guy who lives in "the shire"?

Gatteau
May 25, 2009, 10:19 AM
I would hate it if they get rid of the surrounding chrome-bezel.

Krevnik
May 25, 2009, 10:33 AM
Do realize that if you post now, you necro'd a thread about the iPhone 3G from over a year ago. :P

Dr. Cabrera
May 25, 2009, 11:00 AM
Nice work frijole


If this is the new iPhone congrats on the find

If not, no big deal

pugnut
May 25, 2009, 11:18 AM
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/iphone-sdk-contains-icon-for-unreleased-model-again/

skubish
May 25, 2009, 06:16 PM
Why am I looking at a year old thread:confused:

drakeshipway
May 25, 2009, 08:39 PM
Why am I looking at a year old thread:confused:

That must be why I didn't understand what I was reading!
I'll remember to read the date next time! :p Haha!