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kenyabob
Dec 2, 2003, 06:53 PM
Is there a site out there that showcases cool and new sites, things to get peoples minds going about design and what not. a site similar to flashkits showcase of best flash usage?

sonofslim
Dec 3, 2003, 08:57 AM
there's Kaliber 10000 (http://www.k10k.net) ...although they're a little too "designey" for me.

that probably doesn't make any sense, but in my head i know just what i mean.

mnkeybsness
Dec 3, 2003, 09:07 AM
i wouldn't trust any site that relies on frames.

D0ct0rteeth
Dec 3, 2003, 10:31 PM
http://www.styleboost.com

tomf87
Dec 3, 2003, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by mnkeybsness
i wouldn't trust any site that relies on frames.

Can you explain why?

I had one of our web designers say something similar, and not being a web designer, I have no idea why he thinks that..

Tom

Rower_CPU
Dec 3, 2003, 10:58 PM
Frames are a deprecated mode of page design among designers who wish to enhance accessibility, usability, search engine optimization, page bookmarking/linking, document management, to name a few.

They have certain advantages, but there are means of providing the same or similar functionality without having framesets (PHP/server-side includes, for example).

sonofslim
Dec 4, 2003, 08:58 AM
in a nutshell, frames violate the Keep It Simple, Stupid principle. which, in the world of web design, actually has a significant effect by way of site performance & rankings.

radhak
Dec 4, 2003, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Frames are a deprecated mode of page design among designers who wish to enhance accessibility, usability, search engine optimization, page bookmarking/linking, document management, to name a few.

They have certain advantages, but there are means of providing the same or similar functionality without having framesets (PHP/server-side includes, for example).

can you provide some sample sites that do this (or just give such functionality without using frames)? i am personally so kludgy with design that unless i see a sample i won't get this (call it imagination-challenged).

Rower_CPU
Dec 4, 2003, 12:52 PM
Like I said above, it usually requires a server side technology to combine pieces of pages to create the final page.

For instance, on my website (http://organicallydigital.com) I divvy up the page into 4 parts: header, menu, content and footer. My pages go out and assemble themselves from these parts.

I have one header file, one menu file and one footer file that all get re-used on almost every page, giving me one of the functionalities of frames (re-usable content) without a frameset.

johnhood
Dec 4, 2003, 05:03 PM
I'd agree. Keep the site intuitive - look no further than the Mac OS GUI for inspiration!

jywv8
Dec 4, 2003, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by kenyabob
Is there a site out there that showcases cool and new sites, things to get peoples minds going about design and what not. a site similar to flashkits showcase of best flash usage?

They usually have some nifty sites here:

http://www.coolhomepages.com/

FattyMembrane
Dec 4, 2003, 11:25 PM
most people know about this one, but it hasn't been listed here

CSS Zen Garden (http://www.csszengarden.com)