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MacRumors
Dec 8, 2003, 02:40 AM
According to reports, Apple finally released their "iTunes Producer" tool to independent record labels back in Mid-November.

This Apple tool was released to "Indie" record labels who had signed a contract with Apple in order to allow them to encode and transmit their music to Apple for inclusion into the iTunes Music Store. Apple initially hinted at this tool during their meeting with Indie labels (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/06/20030606081257.shtml) back in June.

After some delays, the tool finally made its way into the hands of the Indie labels, but based on one report, the submission process is less-than-ideal. Reportedly, the tool allows little room for error and offers no method to correct submitted information. Beyond this, encoding and transmission of albums can take an excessive amount of time, with little feedback from Apple. As a result, there may be ongoing delays with representation of smaller indie labels on the iTunes Music Store.

stoid
Dec 8, 2003, 02:42 AM
I hope this is where Apple is spending a good deal of money and resources. If Apple really wants to make iTMS stand out, they need to have excellent support for indie groups.

york2600
Dec 8, 2003, 02:45 AM
Maybe this explains the title errors with the Live from the Apple Store Thursday/Thrice album. Great album, but they screwed up the track names.

Sabenth
Dec 8, 2003, 05:00 AM
its like anything new theres gona be problems. This will get sorted out if apple really wants the indies..

MrMacMan
Dec 8, 2003, 06:16 AM
I really hope they allow Indie to be umm Independent.

Let they have some freedom... Sumbit the Music then become like the Admin for your band, allow you to change around the titles of the songs and stuff. :p

SiliconAddict
Dec 8, 2003, 07:37 AM
Sounds like a v1 Microsoft app. What is with Apple lately and them getting so sloppy?!!? :confused:

rotorblade
Dec 8, 2003, 08:02 AM
"The tool allows little room for error."

Isn't that the idea.

"The encoding process can take an excessive amount of time."

I'm not saying this new indie tool is perfect and may not have it's flaws, but I find it hard to believe that this new tool is that much more complicated than whatever has been used with the few hundred thousand songs that are available up to this point.

tny
Dec 8, 2003, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by rotorblade
"The tool allows little room for error."

Isn't that the idea.

"The encoding process can take an excessive amount of time."

I'm not saying this new indie tool is perfect and may not have it's flaws, but I find it hard to believe that this new tool is that much more complicated than whatever has been used with the few hundred thousand songs that are available up to this point.

Which leads to an interesting question: did Apple encode all the music from the big 5? If not, what software did they use? Didn't Apple say that the indies were going to be given equal treatment?

mclosers
Dec 8, 2003, 11:37 AM
Fat Wrekchords is one of the indie punk labels out there yet is still not on iTunes. They have bands such as NoFx and others. I think that is a real travasty. People that like those types of bands love music in general. and of the people i know that like punk music 100% of them own iPods (me included). Check out what Chuck from A Simple plan has to say about hte iTunes Music Store and online downloading in general.http://www.vttv.vt.edu/stupid/chuck.mov

TomSmithMacEd
Dec 8, 2003, 11:56 AM
It sounds good, anymore music is good music. I don't care how bad some indie bands are. Some are great!

daku
Dec 8, 2003, 12:22 PM
When I was at CMJ this year I came across this companies booth: http://www.iodalliance.com/.

From their mission statement:
ODA provides comprehensive services for independent artists, record labels, and publishers in the digital music world, to:

* create collective bargaining leverage to counter the advantages currently enjoyed by major labels and publishers within digital music outlets

* provide first-class media encoding services and metadata management tools

* aggregate and administer royalty payments and provide reporting tools for precise tracking of digital releases

* promote the presence of independent music online and assist with digital retail marketing

* provide one-stop shopping for digital music services to license valuable indie music

No I don't work for them. :)

mclosers
Dec 8, 2003, 03:52 PM
Here is an interview with MxPx about the iTunes Music store. "They like it... What's a buck... you drop a buck on a cup of coffee."
BTW their newest cd "Before Everything and After" is amazing
Get it on the itunes music storeInterview (http://www.vttv.vt.edu/stupid/mxpx2.mov)
and no I don't work for MxPx
Let me know by email if you want to see more interview with bands about the iTunes music store. stupid@vt.edu thanks

jero
Dec 8, 2003, 08:09 PM
itunes needs an indie section. like, oh say...well, just peep my sig.

york2600
Dec 8, 2003, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by mclosers
Fat Wrekchords is one of the indie punk labels out there yet is still not on iTunes. They have bands such as NoFx and others. I think that is a real travasty. People that like those types of bands love music in general. and of the people i know that like punk music 100% of them own iPods (me included). Check out what Chuck from A Simple plan has to say about hte iTunes Music Store and online downloading in general.http://www.vttv.vt.edu/stupid/chuck.mov

Wait a second. When did Simple Plan become punk? No seriously. When?

mclosers
Dec 8, 2003, 11:49 PM
I don't believe i said they were punk? Did I?
They are decent and support the iTunes music store. What else can you ask for?


http://www.vttv.vt.edu/stupid/Simply Stupid (http://www.vttv.vt.edu/stupid/)

cdreviewscom
Apr 13, 2005, 12:47 AM
HAHA, simple plan is not punk.

As for iTunes, check out http://onramp.digitalmusicworks.com as a way to get onto iTunes :cool:

kd0tc0m
Apr 13, 2005, 01:03 PM
Which leads to an interesting question: did Apple encode all the music from the big 5? If not, what software did they use? Didn't Apple say that the indies were going to be given equal treatment?

They did say that the Indies would get the same treatment. It's obvious things haven't been as smooth as they thought would happen.

I would think Apple used their own software... they had to create iTunes for themselves, why trust anyone else to build this new component?

Dunepilot
Apr 28, 2005, 04:17 AM
They did say that the Indies would get the same treatment. It's obvious things haven't been as smooth as they thought would happen.

I would think Apple used their own software... they had to create iTunes for themselves, why trust anyone else to build this new component?

They had to create the iTunes Music Store themselves, but iTunes was built on an existing mp3 player programme that they purchased.