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NiroNavro
Jul 11, 2008, 01:36 AM
First let me apologize in advance if this has already been discussed. Now for my question:
Is it possible at all that the iPod touch will get a cosmetic makeover to look like the iPhone 3G? Because I fricken hate the chrome backing. Mine is scratched to ****. It is as ugly as all hell. I love the look of the new iPhone. It's the bees knees. Is there any chance of this happening? If so then I am all over that.

Edit: And what are the chances that we'll ever see an iPod touch with a hard drive instead of a flash drive?



Tragedies
Jul 11, 2008, 02:07 AM
There's always the chance.

This September should see some iPod improvements, and that may be one for the iPod Touch.

rioting
Jul 11, 2008, 12:52 PM
As long as the other iPod have the stainless steel backing, I highly doubt it will be changed. It's the 'classic' look, ya know what I mean?

philMBP
Jul 11, 2008, 01:06 PM
and you think the high gloss black plastic won't scratch?

nish123456
Jul 11, 2008, 01:10 PM
I definitely prefer the stainless steel.

philMBP
Jul 11, 2008, 01:34 PM
I definitely prefer the stainless steel.

Agreed. I also prefer the first iPhone back cover over the glossy 3G.

sam10685
Jul 11, 2008, 02:11 PM
Go stainless steel!

Dark K
Jul 11, 2008, 02:15 PM
iPod Touch should have his era soon, everything is now iPhone, and what comes the iPhone comes to the iPod, sometime soon, Apple must develop something unique for the iPod.

illidian
Jul 11, 2008, 04:49 PM
I would be surprised if Apple moved away from the current backing. The Touch doesn't need the better reception for 3G and GPS as the iPhone does. I see it as a way to differentiate between the Touch and the iPhone, visually.

Also, all the iPods have the aluminum/stainless back. Keep it standard across the entire line.

brent0saurus
Aug 21, 2008, 07:52 PM
I would be surprised if Apple moved away from the current backing. The Touch doesn't need the better reception for 3G and GPS as the iPhone does. I see it as a way to differentiate between the Touch and the iPhone, visually.

Also, all the iPods have the aluminum/stainless back. Keep it standard across the entire line.

let this be known as the best answer. It makes sense for Apple to have something to differentiate the iPod touch from the iPhone, while keeping all of the iPods consistent. Plus, the stainless steel is more environmentally friendly.
All i want from the new iPod touch is a camera.

copydeskcat
Aug 21, 2008, 08:02 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

1. New case (same as iPhone).
2. More memory (possibly up to 64GB).
3. More Colours.
4. Price drop
5. The 8GB will be dropped.

Don't expect anything else major to the Touch other than cosmetics and memory.

You simply are not going to get Bluetooth, a camera or GPS on the Touch - or sales of iPhone would drop.

atad6
Aug 21, 2008, 08:08 PM
Exactly, look at the relatively small changes that were made to the iphone. GPS would be kind of useless without a data connection and adding a camera/microphone would make it too similar to the iphone. The only way I could see them adding 64gb would be if they bumped up the iphone to at least 32gb at the same time.

sushi
Aug 21, 2008, 08:26 PM
Is it possible at all that the iPod touch will get a cosmetic makeover to look like the iPhone 3G?
Don't think so.

The metal back is more than for looks. It provides a heat sink. It also provides structure to enable the Touch to be thinner.

The iPod Touch is 0.31 inches thick. The iPhone is 0.42 inches thick.

The iPhone is 35% thicker than the Touch.

And what are the chances that we'll ever see an iPod touch with a hard drive instead of a flash drive?
Never, unless...

The Touch form factor replaces the Classic version of the iPod.

I would be surprised if Apple moved away from the current backing. The Touch doesn't need the better reception for 3G and GPS as the iPhone does.
Exactly.

I see it as a way to differentiate between the Touch and the iPhone, visually.

Also, all the iPods have the aluminum/stainless back. Keep it standard across the entire line.
Interesting points.

The only way I could see them adding 64gb would be if they bumped up the iphone to at least 32gb at the same time.
Currently, the iPhone has one memory slot and the Touch has two. So the max memory in the Touch will be twice that of the iPhone with the current designs.

adbe
Aug 21, 2008, 08:41 PM
GPS would be kind of useless without a data connection

Please, wont somebody make it stop...

branjosef
Aug 21, 2008, 09:20 PM
Please, wont somebody make it stop...

We all know you need a data connection to use GPS. I pay $20 a month for unlimited data for the Garman I have in my car. Its just how it is. ATT says so. I also have a handheld GPS which I pay another $20 a month through ATT. Funny though...they seemed to work before I started the plans... must be a glitch by ATT (suckers!!!). I think when my contract is up I will ask if my GPS devices can be used on the 3G network. I know it would cost more but I want faster GPS service.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Master Debater
Aug 22, 2008, 01:36 AM
We all know you need a data connection to use GPS. I pay $20 a month for unlimited data for the Garman I have in my car. Its just how it is.

Not all GPS systems do. I have one that uses pre-downloaded maps for GPS. It might not be as up-to-date, but it's still GPS. This is probably how Apple would make GPS available on the touch, if they ever wanted to do it.

adbe
Aug 22, 2008, 12:10 PM
We all know you need a data connection to use GPS. I pay $20 a month for unlimited data for the Garman I have in my car.


You do? Why? I have a Garmin in my car. I don't pay any service fees. I don't have a contract. It works just fine. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Or maybe you don't understand what GPS is?

Real-time traffic updates are a value added service, and sure, you're gonna pay for them. A map and GPS is an entirely offline thing though. Kind of like how I don't pay a service charge to Sekonda to allow my wristwatch to work.

Mac-Addict
Aug 22, 2008, 12:24 PM
Edit: And what are the chances that we'll ever see an iPod touch with a hard drive instead of a flash drive?
Never. And I hope we never do see one. 1. A hard drive would be far to big to fit in one without making it a lot bigger. 2. Hard drives wear out over a short period of time in a portable device. 3. Quick movements stutter them.

California King
Aug 22, 2008, 08:20 PM
My guess of what the new iPod touch will have:

-Redesigned to look similar to 3G iPhone.
-Volume buttons
-Same storage capacity, but cheaper! (16GB at $329 / 32GB at $429) No more 8GB!
-Better LCD screen

I doubt we'll see anything that is not predictable. What I would like it to have is a speaker and camera, but highly doubt it!

reubs
Aug 22, 2008, 09:16 PM
I really hope it doesn't get redesigned to look like the new iphones. The plastic back looks tacky, and I'm sure it's not durable. I could care less about the chrome getting scratched; a scratch on chrome is better than a hairline crack in plastic casing.

I also don't really care about a camera. Bluetooth might be nice for syncing over the bluetooth connection on most Macs (or does it already do that?) to eliminate the need to open up iTunes to sync up the calendars and address books.

More storage and/or a lower price would obviously be nice, too.

benlee
Aug 22, 2008, 09:28 PM
My guess of what the new iPod touch will have:

-Redesigned to look similar to 3G iPhone.
-Volume buttons
-Same storage capacity, but cheaper! (16GB at $329 / 32GB at $429) No more 8GB!
-Better LCD screen

I doubt we'll see anything that is not predictable. What I would like it to have is a speaker and camera, but highly doubt it!

I really don't see them costing that much. I think we will see them at $299 and $399 at most.

branjosef
Aug 22, 2008, 11:54 PM
You do? Why? I have a Garmin in my car. I don't pay any service fees. I don't have a contract. It works just fine. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Or maybe you don't understand what GPS is?

Real-time traffic updates are a value added service, and sure, you're gonna pay for them. A map and GPS is an entirely offline thing though. Kind of like how I don't pay a service charge to Sekonda to allow my wristwatch to work.



I was JOKING!!!!! :D:D:D:D I was just repeating what I've heard other people (who have no clue about how GPS works) in the forums say in reference to the touch incorporating GPS.

California King
Aug 23, 2008, 03:14 AM
I really don't see them costing that much. I think we will see them at $299 and $399 at most.

Hopefully you're right and I'm wrong! Cheaper is always better. :)

adbe
Aug 24, 2008, 12:05 PM
I was JOKING!!!!! :D:D:D:D I was just repeating what I've heard other people (who have no clue about how GPS works) in the forums say in reference to the touch incorporating GPS.

My bad :(

Vigilante
Aug 24, 2008, 12:39 PM
I have always wanted to remove the chrome backing on my iPod Touch. The chrome doesn't bother me as much as the Apple icon on the back-- that thing has always felt strange in my hand. My plan was to remove the chrome backing and add on a translucent neon lime green backing from one of my n64 controllers; but I don't know if it would stand up to the heat.
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Edfrommars
Aug 24, 2008, 01:22 PM
Unfortunately it probably will get redesigned to have a plastic back if the rumors of a lowered price are true. I really hope that doesn't happen though. Stainless steel (or whatever metal it is) is a lot better than crappy plastic.

MatrixPrime
Aug 24, 2008, 05:36 PM
why, oh why can't we get a speaker? Keep your plastic back. Keep your extra memory. Keep your GPS. Keep your camera (though that would be great), just give me a speaker!

.Chris
Aug 24, 2008, 06:05 PM
was thinking could apple add the old iphone backing to the new touch? at least make the touch look a bit nicer?

.Chris
Aug 24, 2008, 06:05 PM
why, oh why can't we get a speaker? Keep your plastic back. Keep your extra memory. Keep your GPS. Keep your camera (though that would be great), just give me a speaker!

that along with physical buttons. Some want to control the volume from their pocket and change tracks...

Beric
Aug 24, 2008, 07:18 PM
that along with physical buttons. Some want to control the volume from their pocket and change tracks...

What about GPS, volume buttons, external speakers, and a camera all rolled into one device?

This is Apple, after all. And people (like me) are willing to pay for such a device. There is no way I will buy an iPhone under someone other than Verizon. But I do want the iPhone features, out of contract.

GPS maps were always preloaded, until recently. A camera isn't hard to install (and it's cheap, I hear). External speakers would be very nice, especially for games. And volume buttons would be very nice.

People continue to forget that the iPhone and Touch are two completely separate markets that have basically no competition with each other. One is a phone, and the other isn't. For product distinction, the other features couldn't matter less. Nothing the iPhone has or practically might get would convince me to buy one at this time. And I'm certain most Touch owners feel the same way.

Domofloge
Aug 24, 2008, 08:46 PM
Dude the stainless steel looks/feels awesome. I guess is all personal pref. Anyway, I'll be the jerk who says that you should have invested in a cheap case so it wasn't "scratched to ****."

4DThinker
Aug 24, 2008, 09:34 PM
What about GPS, volume buttons, external speakers, and a camera all rolled into one device? You may very well get GPS. The front page links to a site where someone claims he heard from a worker at the chinese manufacturer that there was GPS in the new Touches. If you look at the computer rendering/scan they had to do to make cases for the new Touch, there are a couple of interesting additions to the upper bezel. One might be a camera lens for video chat between devices, or possibly a microphone.

StrudelTurnover
Aug 24, 2008, 10:06 PM
We all know you need a data connection to use GPS. I pay $20 a month for unlimited data for the Garman I have in my car. Its just how it is. ATT says so. Others have already mentioned how odd this is. But I'll say that in Japan you don't need any kind of data connection. If you want to update your travel map in an average Tokyo car, you can *gasp* buy a new CD-ROM and shove it in your dashboard. The Global Positioning will work with nothing but the car battery power, which is how it should be.

California King
Aug 24, 2008, 10:45 PM
that along with physical buttons. Some want to control the volume from their pocket and change tracks...

I think they're going to add volume buttons this time. I can't not believe that isn't something all iPod touch users wish it had!

Also, what do you guys think about a leather backing (like the Blackberry Bold)? It won't scratch like the chrome, it won't be slippery like the iPhone aluminum backing is, and it won't crack like the 3G iPhone does. I'm not asking for premium leather..just something that is affordable and feels nice!

Beric
Aug 24, 2008, 10:54 PM
Also, what do you guys think about a leather backing (like the Blackberry Bold)? It won't scratch like the chrome, it won't be slippery like the iPhone aluminum backing is, and it won't crack like the 3G iPhone does. I'm not asking for premium leather..just something that is affordable and feels nice!

Unfortunately, the environmentalists would be jumping at Apple for this the first chance they got. Too bad, too, as a leather back would actually be very nice.

California King
Aug 24, 2008, 10:58 PM
Unfortunately, the environmentalists would be jumping at Apple for this he first chance they got. Too bad, too, as a leather back would actually be very nice.

Ah yes, how can I forget about those people! In that case, there's always alternatives to leather. Have anyone heard of "PureSoft?" It feels like premium leather, but is not actually leather and is "eco-friendly." They usually use it in chairs though..lol