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MacRumors
Dec 18, 2003, 10:39 AM
IDG World Expo has officially announced (http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20031218005136&newsLang=en) that Steve Jobs will be delivering the opening keynote address at MacWorld San Francisco on Tuesday, Jan 6 2004 at 9:00 am (Pacific).

In the past, Apple has traditionally provided a live Quicktime stream of the event, as well as satellite broadcasts to their retail Apple Stores. Details on these transmissions are not yet available.

Dahl
Dec 18, 2003, 10:40 AM
iApps updates ?

bobbyp80521
Dec 18, 2003, 10:48 AM
new iphoto, ichat av for windows (see side note) and home on ipod




side note: I noticed a friend of mine who is a pc user (yes i do talk to some of them) and next to his name on my ichat buddy list had a phone. I said to him "your on a mac, good man". not true, he got the new AIM beta, and it claims to have av ability. While the phone icon is lightened out like he is on another convo and he is unable to ask me to connect too, i hope to see whatever is stopping that go away and the av ability become more used

Chaszmyr
Dec 18, 2003, 10:48 AM
I can't wait until MWSF!!! *Explodes*

obeygiant
Dec 18, 2003, 10:49 AM
Is this keynote date earlier than normal?

blueBomber
Dec 18, 2003, 10:49 AM
I'm thinking it's going to be mostly ipod related. Talking about what a success the ipod was over the holidays, and then introducing either;

1. A lower priced value ipod
or
2. Larger capacities for the same prices

That's my predictions.

Chaszmyr
Dec 18, 2003, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by bobbyp80521
new iphoto, ichat av for windows (see side note) and home on ipod




side note: I noticed a friend of mine who is a pc user (yes i do talk to some of them) and next to his name on my ichat buddy list had a phone. I said to him "your on a mac, good man". not true, he got the new AIM beta, and it claims to have av ability. While the phone icon is lightened out like he is on another convo and he is unable to ask me to connect too, i hope to see whatever is stopping that go away and the av ability become more used

iChat uses an open source video codec, the new AIM beta doesn't. They are not, and likely will not be compatible.

Chaszmyr
Dec 18, 2003, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by obeygiant
Is this keynote date earlier than normal?

No

AmigoMac
Dec 18, 2003, 10:53 AM
for that day I'll be in America, not in SF but still can feel me closer... :D

What's coming? iApps, iChat windows (maybe), new low-priced iPods, speed bumps, giveaways, big 20 years cake ;) and of course... one more thing...:)

Photorun
Dec 18, 2003, 11:02 AM
Maybe finally they'll announce Disney buying them, or Sony... JOKING! That was a big joke.

Speed bumps making my G5 look like a Texas Instruments calculator I'm guessing, doubt the iPod lower price (Jobs? Lower the price of something with high profits? You're kidding?), maybe iPod updates... and a pony.

Java
Dec 18, 2003, 11:03 AM
Come on, when has Jobs not done the keynote at MWSF? (Not counting before he was the iCEO)

pgwalsh
Dec 18, 2003, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by blueBomber
I'm thinking it's going to be mostly ipod related. Talking about what a success the ipod was over the holidays, and then introducing either;

1. A lower priced value ipod
or
2. Larger capacities for the same prices

That's my predictions. A little conservative, aren't we.

I think this will be a rather big presentation wth lots to talk about.

blueBomber
Dec 18, 2003, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by Java
Come on, when has Jobs not done the keynote at MWSF? (Not counting before he was the iCEO)

I don't think it was meant to be a surprise, just announced as a formality

AmigoMac
Dec 18, 2003, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by Java
Come on, when has Jobs not done the keynote at MWSF? (Not counting before he was the iCEO)

maybe some newbies are just getting used to the keynote schedule, but I guess the main idea of this topic is to increase the expectation level for every mac user and start wishes for the upcoming products... mac veterans know even which brand of T-shirt, jean, shoes steve uses ;)

SiliconAddict
Dec 18, 2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by AmigoMac
maybe some newbies are just getting used to the keynote schedule

Raises hand.... :)


Heck for the last few months I've been referring to MWSF as that January thing.

blueBomber
Dec 18, 2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by pgwalsh
A little conservative, aren't we.

I think this will be a rather big presentation wth lots to talk about.

Just playing it safe. I'm sure Steve will have surprises that will knock my socks off, last year, the announcement of the 12" and 17" PBs made me gasp for air. Hopefully, he'll have something equally awesome as I watch the keynote on one of those 12" PBs

AmigoMac
Dec 18, 2003, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Java
Come on, when has Jobs not done the keynote at MWSF? (Not counting before he was the iCEO)

sorry for posting again but just realized that is the same when mom says "Santa is coming this X-mas" ... of course there are some bad boys "Ehh mom, is it a surprise? when hasn't santa come?"... but children always start "I want to have this, I wish that...."

Let our Santa to be announced... it's X-MACs time ;) :D

Jerry Spoon
Dec 18, 2003, 11:18 AM
Can't wait. I think I'm excited b/c I've got no expectations. I'll be happy with whatever comes out. Hope the QT stream is good for me. Seems to be a bit hit and miss over the years.

bobbyp80521
Dec 18, 2003, 11:22 AM
if ichat av and aim will not be compatable then i will switch to aim. no need to feel superior if noone uses it....

RandomMacGuy
Dec 18, 2003, 11:23 AM
Did anyone really doubt that he would do the keynote? He loves the SF MacWorld.

aldo
Dec 18, 2003, 11:24 AM
I'll be watching that... 5pm GMT for any UK-ers here :), assuming they have a quicktime feed of it up.

I think this could be quite possibly the biggest year for Apple (2004) as marketshare is finally going up, Apple actually has the largest marketshare in the portable digital music player market and they have got rid of motorola. It's also the 20th anniversary, of course :P.

hvfsl
Dec 18, 2003, 11:30 AM
I am looking forward to:
-New ipods
-Updated PowerMac G5s
-Early info on Mac OS X 10.4
-New 20th Aniversary Mac (hopefully a new, cheaper G5 cube)
-Updated iMacs, maybe G5s (although these could be the 20th aniversay Macs)

dernhelm
Dec 18, 2003, 11:30 AM
No matter what is announced everyone will look at what wasn't, and there will be a bunch of "underwhelmed" people.

"What do you mean no G5 tablet-based TIVO-enabled iPod? Sheesh, what's all the hype about?"

macMaestro
Dec 18, 2003, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by AmigoMac
maybe some newbies are just getting used to the keynote schedule, but I guess the main idea of this topic is to increase the expectation level for every mac user and start wishes for the upcoming products... mac veterans know even which brand of T-shirt, jean, shoes steve uses ;)

I've been around the mac for a while, but what brand of T-neck, jeans and shoes does Steve wear?

supercres
Dec 18, 2003, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by AmigoMac
sorry for posting again but just realized that is the same when mom says "Santa is coming this X-mas" ... of course there are some bad boys "Ehh mom, is it a surprise? when hasn't santa come?"... but children always start "I want to have this, I wish that...."

Let our Santa to be announced... it's X-MACs time ;) :D

I like your analogy.

LostPacket
Dec 18, 2003, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by aldo
... and they have got rid of motorola ...
Besides the fact there's a Motorola processor in every Mac besides the PM :)

LP

wdlove
Dec 18, 2003, 12:09 PM
To me the only suprise would have been if Steve had announced that he would not be doing the Keynote. Now I pray that he will attend Boston also.

Now we can probably expect that Steve will be making some big announcements.

pb1212580
Dec 18, 2003, 12:11 PM
What about the Special Edition iPod that was talked about for Paris??? maybe this is it?!
If I remembered correctly, there were quite a few times the same rumors poping up. Last thing I read, it was pulled...

maybe this will also introduce:

HOME ON iPOD?

kinda nicely tie in with the whole Digital Music theme...

plus new updated G5s.

I don't think Powerbooks or iBooks will be updated (majorly anyways). It's only been 4 months for pb and less for ibooks. None for iMacs either.

something about iPod for sure. I don't think it's going to get MUCH bigger. 40G is ReALLY Plenty... I have movies stored on my 40G and it's still got plenty left... and music is my profession! ;)

I am hoping for a complete "PLAY NICE" iChat!!! and a line-in accessory for iPod that enables mic. recording (stereo) (iTalk? from Griffin?)

They'll most likely super promote .mac somehow... more storage for same $, I'd be pissed off cuz I just got .mac!!! I don't know how they'd tie that in with .mac.

Maybe Home on iPod sync also with .mac! that'd be rad!!! but too big for the 100MB we pay for in .mac???

blah blah blah...

my thoughts.

kenaustus
Dec 18, 2003, 12:28 PM
Steve has a lot of things he can talk about, but I would guess a speed bump for the G5 and, with luck, a shift to single G5's in iMacs and duals in PMs. Maybe even a headless G5 iMac to go along with an update of the current version. The new 90 nm makes a lot of things possible and I think Steve is going to take full advantage of the opportunity.

An iPod announcment would be great, both for a lower priced version and a 60 Gig. Larger drives are ideal for those of us who travel a lot and want some major backup space on the iPod - my 5 Gig is straining.

New displays? Possible. Would be even more exciting with a headless iMac option.

Another factor will be who be brings on stage. Loved the IBM VP making a commitment to 3 Gig within a year.

Finally, the "one more thing". Who could have predicted the iPod? My credit card is ready if he brings out an innovation as significant as that.

pb1212580
Dec 18, 2003, 12:33 PM
Well,
I know he has a pair of the New Balance 991 gray. The hippiest shoes ever and the best. I swear I have found the best pair of runners and he's got it, too!
my guess:
Apple brand black tshirt...and levis jeans?!

winmacguy
Dec 18, 2003, 12:44 PM
just off the topic a litttle bit, I spotted this review in our National Morning News Paper talking about the fantastic features of Panther:
Apple's new cat has arrived with plenty of agility

19.12.2003
By ADAM GIFFORD
Panther, or Mac OS X 10.3, the latest version of Apple's operating system, is the moment we can say "This cat has arrived".

The first release of OS X was considered a beta by anyone who tried it. Version 10.1. which fixed many of the bugs, had the development name Puma, but wasn't marketed as such.

Jaguar or 10.2 was an improvement, but still had users hankering for some of the speed and functions Apple's old operating system had built up by 9.6 or so.

No such qualms with Panther. This is faster, smarter, more responsive. Stuff just happens like it is supposed to. And there are lots of really cool features.

Don't worry, Windows users, you can have these features too. Probably about the time Microsoft gets Longhorn to market - about 2008 or so. Snicker, snicker.

The first cool feature is Expose, Apple has finally woken up to all the function buttons at the top of the keyboard. Push F9 and all the open windows are tiled across the screen. Nice trick, but they will probably be too small to use.

Press F10 and the open windows for the application you are using tile out. That is useful if you want to quickly switch between multiple documents or browsers windows.

Press F11 and everything goes away to expose the desktop.

Now hold down the shift key while pressing one of the function keys. Everything happens in slow motion. Not particularly useful, but cool.

If you want to use other keys or combinations to make Expose work, you can change them in System Preferences.

Finder is a useful application in its own right. The icons for the available disks have moved from the top to a column on the left. Put the cursor over any disk and the contents appear in the next column. Drilling down becomes quick and simple.

The left hand column includes icons for Desktop, the iTunes music file, the user's home folder and the applications folder. You can drag and drop any folder to the column and it stays there as a useful starting point - particularly useful if you are involved in a number of projects.

If you still can't remember where a file is, a search pane in the top right corner starts generating matches as soon as you start typing. This search pane is a feature of every Apple application, including Mail and Preview. It might be the feature which means I finally abandon Eudora Mail. That and the built-in spam filter. Set Preview as the default for opening Acrobat files, and you get the search function, as well as a blindingly fast rendering of the image.

Microsoft is trying to spin that Windows is not inherently less secure than Unix-based operating systems. This is tosh, and Panther makes good use of Unix's security.

A new feature in System Preferences is FileVault, which secures your Home folder by encrypting the contents, using your login password.

For multiple users, just create an account for each one. Fast User Switching allows them to leave documents open and applications running when a new user needs to log in - the screen flips around (another cool effect) to the new desktop.

Under Panther's skin are hundreds of pieces of Unix and Linux which help connect Mac to the rest of the world.

These include Gimp-Print, an open-source printer driver project which gives Mac users access to hundreds of devices not supported on Mac OS X by vendors. And you can throw away your fax. Panther has a Print & Fax utility, allowing you to send and receive faxes.

It will pay to do a software update before and after installing. When I installed Panther I lost connections to the Bluetooth keyboard and mouse I use with my laptop, but recovered them after updating.

An operating system should be about usability and productivity. Panther delivers.

If you are a Mac user who has been holding on to OS X, now is the time to shift.

And Windows users - maybe it's time for you to switch.

Mac OS X 10.3

Apple

$280.

Pros: Fast, increased security, powerful organisation and search capability.

Cons: Can mean having to reset some preferences and auxiliary devices.

Rating: 8.5/10


As for SJ's key note speech.... Bring it on baby I am salivating already

centauratlas
Dec 18, 2003, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by AmigoMac
mac veterans know even which brand of T-shirt, jean, shoes steve uses ;)

Which? ;-)

[As a Mac user since 128K, with the pre 1.0 beta, dated Nov/Dec 1983, I don't know the brand of jeans...I'd like to though, in all seriousness.]

centauratlas
Dec 18, 2003, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by winmacguy
[B>Apple's old operating system had built up by 9.6 or so.
[/B]

That was kind of interesting, but "9.6"????

Freakk123
Dec 18, 2003, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by winmacguy

19.12.2003
By ADAM GIFFORD
Panther, or Mac OS X 10.3, the latest version of Apple's operating system, is the moment we can say "This cat has arrived"...

$280.


Last I checked, Panther was $130. Maybe the writer of the article needs to check his facts (see above).

Anyway, for the Expo, I see something special happening to the iPod... Not sure what, but I just have a feeling... Perhaps it will be a special edition iPod... That would be awesome. Also, definately some minor speedbumps, maybe a major one, like 2.6 GHz for the G5. And finally, (Hopefully) a TRUE 20th Anniversery Mac. Something along the lines of a headless iMac or a new Cube... Can't wait to see what Steve has in store for us!

EDIT: Shortened quote

wdlove
Dec 18, 2003, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by centauratlas
That was kind of interesting, but "9.6"????

That would be great to have an update to my current 9.2.2. Just got that in October.

Qunchuy
Dec 19, 2003, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Freakk123
Last I checked, Panther was $130. Maybe the writer of the article needs to check his facts (see above).

Ah, but did you check the prices in New Zealand, where the article was written?