Leaked Photo of 4th Generation iPod Nano in Packaging?

[jojo13]

i still don't like the design. :D

me too:(
i liked the fat ones so much:o

[jojo13]

you know what would be nice
it's if apple gave those to the media like that, people think it's the new nanos, but that in real, they are preparing someting so much nicer for the 9th.
IT'D BE AWSESOME:D

[Lesser Evets]

"an all mental design..."

Buwahaha. I think the green one is fake. It looks like the 2G nano design with some photoshopping due to the curve of the body. I am more curious how they place all the products into pricing and the added features in hardware, if any.

[eidrunner247]

I don't have a preference on the form factor, but I do really like the colors. I can't wait to see what they have next. I wonder if the other iPods will be following the same color scheme.

[Foocha]

Here are a couple of mockups, based on the new spy photos, and some guesswork. I've shown the spit-screen interface adapting for portrait screen mode (this issue was highlighted earlier by viniciusc). An accelerometer could manage switching to landscape mode (albeit there's the click-wheel problem that others have already mentioned). In terms of the new color selection - my guess is that if the spy-shot is for real, then gold will replace green.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_DVemXS6fKCQ/SMJgWv73ysI/AAAAAAAAAIA/-_XvqKH7Ss4/s400/rose_nano_colors.jpg (http://www.macpredictions.com)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DVemXS6fKCQ/SMJZ609Bh1I/AAAAAAAAAH4/LnSQ3z1D8SI/s400/rose_nano.jpg (http://www.macpredictions.com)

[Chris Bangle]

It looks nice but It doesnt seem amazing, theres no wow factor or any reasosn why I'd want to buy one. (by the looks of the pictures) It might be amazing underneath, but I cant tell.

Those mockups above are very nice, but still, nothing revolutionary, its the same as the present and the last Nano. Ok, different interface, but thats been it, there needs to be something else.

[rlmccormick]

I think you are on the money as far as the inclusion of an accelerometer. It would make sense with the screen that they allow a landscape mode to make video nicer to watch.

[QUOTE=Foocha;6176300]Here are a couple of mockups, based on the new spy photos, and some guesswork. I've shown the spit-screen interface adapting for portrait screen mode (this issue was highlighted earlier by viniciusc). An accelerometer could manage switching to landscape mode (albeit there's the click-wheel problem that others have already mentioned). In terms of the new color selection - my guess is that if the spy-shot is for real, then gold will replace green.

[chaosconan]

Those mockups above are very nice, but still, nothing revolutionary, its the same as the present and the last Nano. Ok, different interface, but thats been it, there needs to be something else.

I definitely agree. I think they're going to lose sales on this product and this could cause the end of this product line unless they come up with something better.

I'm disappointed. Why buy something that combines the design of 2G and 3G?

[puffnstuff]

I saw a good mockup when you turn the nano to its side it has the cover flow and up right it has tiny little ipod touch icons on the bottom of the screen rather then the usual ipod menu. I think that would make sense.

EDIT:
Mockup (http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2008/08/nanoidea2.jpg)

[Kwill]

My call: FAKE!

http://www.frankreinders.nl/foto/fake_1.jpg
http://www.frankreinders.nl/foto/fake_2.jpg

... because of contrast enhanced JPEG artifacts? :confused:

[Chris Bangle]

I definitely agree. I think they're going to lose sales on this product and this could cause the end of this product line unless they come up with something better.

I'm disappointed. Why buy something that combines the design of 2G and 3G?


Thats why im hoping these are official leaks to divert attention from something more radical, But who knows. I really liked Kevin roses picture with the black clickwheel

[sushi]

Just some random comments:

Doesn't look curved to me (speaking of the first one). Looks like an optical illusion.

Reminds me of the iPod Nano 2G only longer (taller).

I know many who wanted a larger screen on the 2G Nano that were not satisfied with the form factor of the 3G Nano.

Personally I like the form factor of the 2G Nano vice the 3G Nano.

Looks like it will be a winner. :)

[rychencop]

Here's what the nano product line should have been. But instead they're going backwards. :rolleyes:

1G original
2G basically with more memory, battery life and better display
3G video
4G touch screen

i agree....it is a step backwards as far as design goes. i don't get it. and won't buy it.

[lazyrighteye]

so where did all the people that hated the design go? :)

arn

No doubt!
This color is electric. Looking forward to the other colors.
And glad they went back to a more hand-friendly shape.

[Foocha]

I've enjoyed reading these boards for many years, and one thing I've noticed that never changes is the way that some people struggle with change.

When the third-generation iPod nano came out, I remember how there seemed to be a broad consensus amongst users here that it was ugly, and a terrible misstep on Apple's part. Now that they're (probably) switching back to the former form-factor, we're getting exactly the opposite reaction.

I bet if they switch back again next year, we'll have as many people moaning that the fat one was ugly.

In Malcom Gladwell's excellent book Blink, he explores how people's initial reaction to design may not reflect their true opinion, once they get used to it. It takes a true expert to immediately know if a new design "works." He has a great case study in the book about how unpopular the design of the Aeron chair was when it first came out - and now that's considered a design classic.

I work in the design industry myself, and I advise colleagues and clients not to pay too much heed to an instant knee-jerk reaction. You need to give yourself some time to adjust to a new idea before you really know if you like it or not.

[ryanwarsaw]

Still think it has to have new hardware inside or this redesign is pointless.

[chaosconan]

I was so looking forward to seeing iPod touch released with an internal hard drive for this month product release. Now that's my dream iPod. That's what I want. Thats what I have been waiting ever since iPod touch was released. I just don't get it. Why don't they do it.

Apple, will you just get rid of the classic and take the hard drive and install it into the touch. PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE.

[happydude]

i like the orange, just not a fan of the curved screen

[Edfrommars]

I don't think it's real. The green one that this guy posted is an obvious fake due to the plastic packaging, lack of curve, etc., so he's not exactly credible.

[Trajectory]

It's too big to be a Nano. Just have to wait and see.

[themiracle]

I love the orange and all, but what happened to the actual rumors, or at least the surprise? It seems like we get too much in advance these days :( I guess the only thing we don't know about is the actual features of the device.

Now if this was all just a big play to nail down who's been leaking...that would be interesting.

[Roller]

I've enjoyed reading these boards for many years, and one thing I've noticed that never changes is the way that some people struggle with change.

When the third-generation iPod nano came out, I remember how there seemed to be a broad consensus amongst users here that it was ugly, and a terrible misstep on Apple's part. Now that they're (probably) switching back to the former form-factor, we're getting exactly the opposite reaction.

I bet if they switch back again next year, we'll have as many people moaning that the fat one was ugly.

In Malcom Gladwell's excellent book Blink, he explores how people's initial reaction to design may not reflect their true opinion, once they get used to it. It takes a true expert to immediately know if a new design "works." He has a great case study in the book about how unpopular the design of the Aeron chair was when it first came out - and now that's considered a design classic.

I work in the design industry myself, and I advise colleagues and clients not to pay too much heed to an instant knee-jerk reaction. You need to give yourself some time to adjust to a new idea before you really know if you like it or not.

But cosmetic redesign (without adding any significant new capabilities) will only go so far in sustaining flat iPod sales. Once the market is saturated, there are only so many people who will buy a new one just because it looks different. And the iPhone's overlap with the iPod doesn't help the latter's sales, either.

[chaosconan]

I've enjoyed reading these boards for many years, and one thing I've noticed that never changes is the way that some people struggle with change. ........ I bet if they switch back again next year, we'll have as many people moaning that the fat one was ugly.


oh yeah?

I don't think anyone wants to go back to the clam ibook!!!
What a mistake apple made. Something they will never repeat again! :D

It still scares me looking at that monstrosity :rolleyes:

[The Killer Fuzz]

This really changed my perspective on the "new nanos". When i first saw the new nanos, i just couldn't stand it, but now it's growing on me. I have an orange shuffle and love the color, and my orange skullcandy headphones match it perfectly. So, depending on what they say on release (as in specs) will determine if i get on or not.

[minznerjosh]

It looks like some of the fake iPods you see in the shady consumer electronic stores in NYC...

[thejadedmonkey]

When the third-generation iPod nano came out, I remember how there seemed to be a broad consensus amongst users here that it was ugly, and a terrible misstep on Apple's part. Now that they're (probably) switching back to the former form-factor, we're getting exactly the opposite reaction.

No, the fatty iPod was ugly when I first saw it, and it's still ugly. But so is this curved one. :p

[Foocha]

oh yeah?

I don't think anyone wants to go back to the clam ibook!!!
What a mistake apple made. Something they will never repeat again! :D

It still scares me looking at that monstrosity :rolleyes:

That really made me laugh. I agree that the original iBook was ugly - some even called it "Barbie's toilet seat". Funny thing is, I seem to recall I quite liked it at the time. Maybe I just drink too much Apple Kool-Aid ;)

[thecartoonguy]

I like it.

I think it's grown on me. I'm sure once I see it in person I will like it even more.

[thecartoonguy]

That really made me laugh. I agree that the original iBook was ugly - some even called it "Barbie's toilet seat". Funny thing is, I seem to recall I quite liked it at the time. Maybe I just drink too much Apple Kool-Aid ;)

Laughing... I hate to say this but I liked mine.... until I realized how right you were about the toilet seat.

Oh the shame

[Mattjeff]

The last one I didn't think I would like but they proved me wrong. The only thing that discouraged me from the last one was I always had the strongest urge to hurl that baby into a calm pond like a skipping stone ;). It just felt so right. this new design again I don't like much... more then likely apple will bait me in with impressive features:rolleyes:.

[ventro]

Finally, we have a user mockup of a nano that looks more elegant than the actual design it's mocking up:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/elchinocudeiro/2796361827/sizes/o/

I would LOVE a little LED screen inside the clickwheel instead of printed text. But I think circular LED screens haven't been invented yet.

[crunchiespg]

I don't think it's real. The green one that this guy posted is an obvious fake due to the plastic packaging, lack of curve, etc., so he's not exactly credible.

why so? nano's have been sold in plastic packaging for years now...

[queshy]

Why would you need both means of input? :confused:

I don't know, why not?

Who knows what Apple has planned? Although I don't really have a hunch that this will happen, I feel it is still possible.

[chaosconan]

The only reason why iPod fatty survived was because of its thinness. Who would ever buy the fatty that was thick in depth.

Apple knows this to be true and thats why they've decided to change the form factor back to long slim. I don't think they'll be repeating this mistake.

Long slim is here to stay!!! :D Hopefully this will encourage people to lose weight. I would argue that Apple introduced the fatty nano targetting the every increasing fatty population :D

And now we are all on a fitness crave they've decided to introduce slimness once more. I really do believe there is a correlation :rolleyes:

[netdog]

The phatty is lovely and doesn't deserve the bashing it is getting from some quarters in my opinion. The 4G may be really nice too. Looking forward to actually seeing them.

[specialk]

hope this color is real - my orange shuffle has been an anomaly for too long

[neoelectronaut]

Well, I'll have to see how this pans out with possible iPod Touch price reductions and whatever happens to the classic before I pick one up for my girlfriend.

If the 8GB iPod Touch drops about $50 it'll be a touch choice between it and a 8GB Nano.

[BJMRamage]

Well, I liked the 2G iPod Nano (Wife has one). I disliked the early "photos/mocks" of the 'fatty' iPod Nano and even the real photos on Apple's site when they were released. I went to the store and saw them in person and liked them a bit but not the best.
This design is good. I like the tall and thin look. Maybe the CD Artwork will be displayed to the entire edge making teh artwork larger overall.

nice work.

[champ01]

still think and hope its fake

why..... because the design does not make any sense
i just had the current one in my hand and its way better
not even work wise but also with the hole ipod design at this point

again i say that the ipod nano can only be better if apple turns it into a nano touch
like an ipod touch but with half the screen size
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/3/20/f_iPodntouch1m_b0b01b1.png

i know steve sad a while back that having a full touchscreen and no extra buttons there is more room to improve on future updates

with the hole ipod line being touch accept the shuffle they would make it alot easier to work on interfaces and updates (and don't forget the itablets etc.)

so why does everybody think that ugly yellow/orange thing is the real deal
do you want apple to go back in time and not foward?:confused:

[bking1000]

Yawn! Is this Apple's form factor answer to the Zune :confused:

[aaquib]

Yawn! Is this Apple's form factor answer to the Zune :confused:

Apple doesn't need an answer to the Zune. But, I do too hate this design.

[freebooter]

Looks great to me.

I'll be buying a green one (like my old Mini).

I sure hope they have 16GB+ on board. :)

[macshill]

Another pic. Claimed it was the Nano 4G unboxed.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/09/ipod-nano-4g-lime-eng.jpg

I STILL CALL IT: FFAAAAKKKEEE!!!

Wow, that person still loves J.R. :p

[Plutonius]

Yuck....

The 3G form factor is much better than the new 4G.

[voxnj]

We'll see

[chaosconan]

Fatty versus Slim?

Of course with the slim the buttons are smaller in size.

Still debating which I like.

[thisrocks]

I saw a good mockup when you turn the nano to its side it has the cover flow and up right it has tiny little ipod touch icons on the bottom of the screen rather then the usual ipod menu. I think that would make sense.

EDIT:
Mockup (http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2008/08/nanoidea2.jpg)

That mock-up looks the business. The only thing that would be better than that would be the Nano touch listed above. I couldn't get either because I have way too much music, but still. Both very good looking products. Nano touch not being so visionary (same design as iPod touch and iPhone,) nonetheless handy!

[Foocha]

I don't really get the Zune comparison - it seems that this is based simply on the portrait screen, which seems a fairly tenuous similarity. It may be more accurate to say that the Zune is Microsoft's answer to the iPod.

But then, like the new Seinfeld ad, there's so much I just don't get about Microsoft.

(Off topic, but let's be honest, Curb Your Enthusiasm demonstrates where the real talent from the Seinfeld show lay. Enough said).

[sushi]

again i say that the ipod nano can only be better if apple turns it into a nano touch like an ipod touch but with half the screen size
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/3/20/f_iPodntouch1m_b0b01b1.png
I would disagree with you.

IMHO, the Touch is a bit too small as it is -- coming from the Newton perspective. Gut feeling is that a smaller Touch screen would be hard to use and not all that useful. YMMV.

[MrCrowbar]

Yeah, if the click wheel actually turned in sync with the device, this new nano wouldn't be so bad after all.

Maybe there's a little motor that turns the physical clickwheel.
...
Or there's just a weight a the play/pause side an the clickwheel rotates...
Or there are some OLEDs on the clickwheel that display the appropriate icons. WOuld be great for games and movies when the buttons don't do what the labels suggests anyway.

But let's be honest here, does anyone look at the labels after 1 minute of use? You car doesn't have labels on the pedals right?

[Bonte]

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/1476/dsc00823jpgci1.jpg

credit to paxil

[macshill]

oh yeah?

I don't think anyone wants to go back to the clam ibook!!!
What a mistake apple made. Something they will never repeat again! :D

It still scares me looking at that monstrosity :rolleyes:

Updated:

http://i35.tinypic.com/orryav.jpg

"Now in Fugly! :D"

[Roessnakhan]

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/1476/dsc00823jpgci1.jpg

credit to paxil

None of those are tapered and all the video screens have very noticeable borders.

Personally, I think the orange leak is real while the green one is just a bad photoshop job.

[Bonte]

None of those are tapered and all the video screens have very noticeable borders.

Personally, I think the orange leak is real while the green one is just a bad photoshop job.

Maybe so but would Apple really design a new Nano that looks so like a Taiwan fake iPod?

[chaosconan]

Drop the dashboard on the home screen. Don't need them in the nano. Just takes up too much space.

[ventro]

It's funny because the Macbook Air is basically a mature version of the clamshell iBook design.

[MrCrowbar]

Drop the dashboard on the home screen. Don't need them in the nano. Just takes up too much space.
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=133395&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1220718672


Well, it would be cool if it had at least a "Music" and maybe a "Movies" function. :p

[champ01]

Fatty versus Slim?

Of course with the slim the buttons are smaller in size.

Still debating which I like.

how can you watch something on a screen that the slim has?

[chaosconan]

It's funny because the Macbook Air is basically a mature version of the clamshell iBook design.

True, and that's why I never liked the AIR. It always reminded me of the clam iBook. I wish it was box like all around straight and through.

[bobertoq]

so where did all the people that hated the design go? :)

arnThat's what I was thinking. Really :D

I like it; it looks nice, but I don't get why they're making it bigger. Maybe Apple will introduce a 16 or 32GB nano. :p

[puffnstuff]

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/1476/dsc00823jpgci1.jpg

credit to paxil

You can tell this is fake because there is a logo on the border

The green one is obviously fake because it is so pixelated around the screen. Like they took an ipod nano second gen and just stretched the screen.

The orange one I believe is legit

I loathe the idea of a ipod touch nano.

[sam10685]

God this is getting seriously boring. What good is a special event when stuff like this keeps leaking out. They might better have something special up there sleeves or I forse a drop in shares.

Like some of you I used to get excited when a special event was announced. But these days the might just called it a "not so very special event, cause everybody knows about event".

truly this doesn't warrant a special event. Just do a silent release Apple and get it over with. Besides I'm getting sick and tired, tall short make-up you damn mind will ya. This thing isn't ugly but it isn't anything special either.

But I must say I am wondering about one thing. If you have the iPod tilted horizontally will the controls tilt with the screen as well. Otherwise it would make for a strange experience.

Macrumors.com. If you don't like rumors, don't come here.

[chaosconan]

how can you watch something on a screen that the slim has?

Here is an actual size comparison. I think your right. There is more screen but at the cost of being wider.

[born4sky]

NIce color ... Orange iPhone Plz

[Bonte]

Would Apple really design a new Nano that looks so like a Taiwan fake iPod? These fake iPods with bigger screens are on the market for more than a year now, i can't see Apple making a new model so similar to these.


http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/1476/dsc00823jpgci1.jpg

[vfrancisco]

If i had to chose, I'd say i like the fat design better. It always felt better in the hand to me.
But if this is the new design, clearly theres going to be a landscape mode to view videos. I'm also hoping to see an updated UI, as the UI on iPods right now seems to be getting a bit outdated.
Aside from the nano news, I'm interested to see the price drops, as you can get an iPhone for 200 bucks now.
Anyway, I'm happy with My 3g iphone and FAT nano for now :)

[fiftydollarshoe]

Maybe there's a little motor that turns the physical clickwheel.
...
Or there's just a weight a the play/pause side an the clickwheel rotates...
Or there are some OLEDs on the clickwheel that display the appropriate icons. WOuld be great for games and movies when the buttons don't do what the labels suggests anyway.

But let's be honest here, does anyone look at the labels after 1 minute of use? You car doesn't have labels on the pedals right?

I think a clickwheel yes. However like the MacBook Air trackpad it will double as a multi-touch pad. So the screen is not multi-touch but the clickwheel is flat and is a clickwheel but doubling as a multitouch pad. Think thats the best transition from iPod classic/nano to full multi-touch iPods for the full range.

[knightlie]

still think and hope its fake

why..... because the design does not make any sense
i just had the current one in my hand and its way better
not even work wise but also with the hole ipod design at this point

again i say that the ipod nano can only be better if apple turns it into a nano touch
like an ipod touch but with half the screen size
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/3/20/f_iPodntouch1m_b0b01b1.png

i know steve sad a while back that having a full touchscreen and no extra buttons there is more room to improve on future updates

with the hole ipod line being touch accept the shuffle they would make it alot easier to work on interfaces and updates (and don't forget the itablets etc.)

so why does everybody think that ugly yellow/orange thing is the real deal
do you want apple to go back in time and not foward?:confused:

A touch screen isn't useful for everyone. I can operate my Classic while it's playing without even looking at it, and the Nano would be the same, but make it a touch screen and you have to give it your full attention to do anything with it. No use in the gym, or while running, or driving, etc.

The iPod Touch line might expand. say with a Nano Touch, but I think there will always be room for an iPod with physical controls.


PS, it's whole, not hole, and you should capitalise I and Steve. ;)

[alphaod]

I hope the screen won't be glossy, cause if it is, it would be glare so badly! (since the curve would be have more angles)

[chaosconan]

A touch screen isn't useful for everyone.

On the iPod nano touch just make it simple to click things on the screen leaving out the motion sensors and multi touch movements.
Leave all that for iPod Touch. You don't need the same technology incorporated. After all its just a nano which should just have the basics of touch screen and nothing more. I'll be happy if I can just click with my fingers.

[gazcross]

Why I think the Orange one is a fake:

The whole picture seems to be out of focus, while the reflection of a strip-light or some sort of light is pin sharp - the light reflection doesn't even closely match with the light reflection on the bottom right corner of the box - it's far too bright for the whole contrast ratio of the photo - also, look at the way the surface the box is lying on changes half way up the screen - there's been some strechin here! It's an ipod mini.

[abercrombie]

i like the taller nano form factor if real. i always thought the wide nanos look kinda dorky. would like a touch nano even better. hope they shrink down the current touch. it's a bit too big or if they keep it the same, add one of those cool cameras that are on the iphones. :apple:

[mrrory]

I don't dislike it, but it doesn't seem to be very "nano" any more. Maybe they'll rename it the "micro"...

[CSIrules]

Is it just me or does the new Nano constantly get less tappered? I just don't see Apple releasing an iPod that's so non-original. I think this guy put a knock off inside of a 2G Nano case.

[chaosconan]

Is it just me or does the new Nano constantly get less tappered? I just don't see Apple releasing an iPod that's so non-original. I think this guy put a knock off inside of a 2G Nano case.

With all the evidence posted on this forum you still believe this is a fake?

[NC MacGuy]

Come on, a Nano touch? The idea of the Nano is to be a small. I don't have wee little pixie fingers to use a touch interface on a device as small as the current Nanos - any rev.

[Hawkeye411]

I'm going to get 2 of them ... one for each kid for xmas :)

[gazcross]

With all the evidence posted on this forum you still believe this is a fake?

Yes. The image has clearly been altered in PhotoShop, bit of light reflection me thinks

[Macman1993]

I've seen those before, they are not made by apple they are just another type of mp3 and video player. Whoever made that picture just put that into a box from the old ipod nano.

[iTeen]

I really don't hope they use this green.

Ugly as sin.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/09/ipod-nano-4g-lime-eng.jpg

[SilentCrs]

Orange = ugly.

[Apple!Fre@k]

so where did all the people that hated the design go? :)

arn

It just reaffirms Steve Jobs' philosophy: People don't know what they want until you show it to them. Show them images that aren't the production shots and they will cry foul. Show them the final product and they will scream with glee.

[GR33NIE]

Dont like the Orange myself, big fan of the current Nano :cool:

[Wolffie]

Just a Suggestion:

Plastic caps to allow for Wi-Fi so they can stream music through iTunes 8, Apple Remote for iTunes 8, and Apple TV.

Looks like similar hardware but the inside and software are new and updated within.

Again, just a suggestion...

[mtrctyjoe]

I ran the image through a pixelated condenser and none of the CRG codecs aligned. Total FAKE.

P.S. I have no idea WTF I am talking about.

[byeehaaw]

looks nasty. i hope the touch looks nicer than this crap

[MrCrowbar]

I really don't hope they use this green.

Ugly as sin.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/09/ipod-nano-4g-lime-eng.jpg

Well that one isn't curved at all... That's just a 2G nano with the screen copied and pasted over to make it longer.

[Dagless]

Well, I kind of like it in the 'flesh'. Much rather have one of them than a fat 3rd gen Nano.

Though I still think video watching on them things is ridiculous and is why I'd still opt for a 1st or 2nd gen iPod Nano.

[dvince2]

so where did all the people that hated the design go? :)

arn

I'm still here.

[chaosconan]

Yes. The image has clearly been altered in PhotoShop, bit of light reflection me thinks

Man, it sure looks real to me. Will find out soon won't we.

[chaosconan]

Where are all the rumors for the new iPod Touch?

[Chappers]

If this new curved nano is real - could that curve provide a magnifying effect?

[greggstroud]

Where are all the rumors for the new iPod Touch?

It's pretty obvious what the iPod touch is going to be like and what features it is going to have to be honest.

[Catch Them]

I really don't hope they use this green.

Ugly as sin.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/09/ipod-nano-4g-lime-eng.jpg

same colors as the 2g nano minis. the previous fat nanos had a sleeker color matching scheme and I'd presume the next ones would follow in as well.

show some model/product numbers and then when can verify if its legit.
;)


but so far none of em are.

[chaosconan]

It's pretty obvious what the iPod touch is going to be like and what features it is going to have to be honest.

So, basically GPS add-on and more capacity and lowered cost.

[Topher15]

If people want a touch screen iPod so much buy a god damn iPod touch!

Touch interface on a Nano would be ridiculous. The fact the iPod touch works well does not mean you can just shrink it down and think it would be as effective.

[MattZani]

The Orange Nano looks so real, but the green one is definitely photoshopped.

I Wish a 16Gb Touch and a soon to have 16Gb iPhone were enough :( Obviously not :D

Just seen, the Green Nano has the old style USB cable, not the current thin no push to release Dock Connector.

[donlphi]

Why I think the Orange one is a fake:

The whole picture seems to be out of focus, while the reflection of a strip-light or some sort of light is pin sharp - the light reflection doesn't even closely match with the light reflection on the bottom right corner of the box - it's far too bright for the whole contrast ratio of the photo - also, look at the way the surface the box is lying on changes half way up the screen - there's been some strechin here! It's an ipod mini.

If this was the real deal, wouldn't Apple have yanked it down by now? When the fat iPods were leaked on another website for a moment, they were yanked down in hours. I think Apple goes through great lengths to keep things secret. I wouldn't expect to see a real leak until closer to the date. :rolleyes:

[champ01]

Come on, a Nano touch? The idea of the Nano is to be a small. I don't have wee little pixie fingers to use a touch interface on a device as small as the current Nanos - any rev.

thats not true at all
it may be smaller than a ipod touch but that doesn't mean the controls should be just more basic

also the orange ipod nano most be fake or.... (and thats the only way i see its possible!)
the new orange ipod touch hasn't got landscape mode:confused:
just for the fact that apple would never make a design where the controls are not logical
if apple is good at one thing the last couple of years its about design

and second where is the prove that actually a new ipod nano is comming soon or even needed at this point ;)

[sam10685]

It's hilarious how many people are in such a state of denial that they are trying to find every little off-pixle. lol! 50 bucks says we wake up tuesday morning to one of those.

[nagromme]

If it has landscape tilt, I wonder if accelerometer games will come out for it?

[chaosconan]

Not sure why would it be silly to put touch screen on ipod nano.
They already have touch screen watches. And they don't consume that much power. It would sell like crazy.

[Topher15]

If this was the real deal, wouldn't Apple have yanked it down by now? When the fat iPods were leaked on another website for a moment, they were yanked down in hours. I think Apple goes through great lengths to keep things secret. I wouldn't expect to see a real leak until closer to the date. :rolleyes:

Because doing that would essentially be a confirmation that it's real.

[Topher15]

Not sure why would it be a silly to put touch screen on ipod nano.
They already have touch screen watches. And they don't consume that much power. It would sell like crazy.

It's not about power, it because the Nano/Classic and the touch iPods serve different purposes. The former it just music/video/photos and the current interface works. The latter is media device hence the touch screen.

[chaosconan]

just music/video/photos and the current interface works

Companies who had that kind of mindset "if it works don't change it" like Motorola with their cell phone product line got kicked really bad. Last I heard Motorola was dropping their cell division or selling it off. Wonder why?
Oh yeah, they don't have simple and cool features that others do.

[NiroNavro]

Is it possible that this generation of nanos will take the low end iPods back to the hard drive set up instead of it's current flash drive set up? Like the iPod minis?

[queshy]

Is it possible that this generation of nanos will take the low end iPods back to the hard drive set up instead of it's current flash drive set up? Like the iPod minis?

Not gonna happen.

[LoMonkey]

No watermarks.
http://picboost.com/images/2008/September/6/nano4G.jpg

[Cassie]

Somehow looks like the 2G copycats you find on eBay all the time.

I won't be getting one, but I guess it looks OK.

[chaosconan]

Is it possible that this generation of nanos will take the low end iPods back to the hard drive set up instead of it's current flash drive set up? Like the iPod minis?

No way. Nano's were specifically designed with no moving components and compact design for sports activities to withstand high impacts and constant motions.

I would be more logical to phase out the ipod classic and introduce hard drive based models carried over to iPod touch.

I would surmise that two streams will develop in this product line.
- iPod touch with solid state memory that's ultra thin
- iPod touch with small solid state base memory like 1GB or so and a massive data storage hard drive resulting in a form factor thats thinker in design.

[LloydBraun89]

if all of these pictures are real, why hasn't there been pictures or videos with the iPod turned on?

[Lesser Evets]

The pink highlights on the casing look painted on.

[dante@sisna.com]

I like it .

The curved design is a great evolution while retaining the traditional look that symbolizes the iPod brand.

[Philberttheduck]

I've been repeatedly saying this, but the clickwheel design just makes no sense on these pictures. Apple would not release a product that's half-assed on design, so that's giveaway number one. The 2nd photo (the green one) makes little sense to me because I think Apple is shifting their new iPods (correct me if im wrong) with the smaller/shorter USB connector (the end that docks into the iPod), which has been shipping with the iPhone. The newer USB connector is smaller and serves the same purpose as the old one, probably making it cheaper because you don't have the buttons on the side to press (not much, but considering they're selling millions, it does save money) and sticks to their minimalist philosophy. And third, although no longer as common anymore, Apple would've taken this picture down by now wouldn't you think? If they're making a big event for the iPod, these leaks are too easily slipped.

Here's what I've been talking about the clickwheel design, if they're shifting to the longer nano design. It's similar to the Moto Rokr E8, in which it "lights" up different signs in different modes, eg video viewing, landscape mode vs music player. Of course, because the click wheel isn't that large, in landscape mode, just use and light up the letter "M" for the reverse or forward.

http://www.mobilegazette.com/handsets/motorola/motorola-rokr-e8/motorola-rokr-e8-combo.jpg

[scottylans]

iPod nano touch?!

Apple have usually been quite hot at pulling REAL images from the net, so maybe there is a hidden secret to this image...


I have been thinking a lot about the ipod nano touch also as I would love one.

We have to be realistic though.
The actual physical parts inside there would definitately make it quite big, the battery for one would now have to support such a large screen, plus of course the screen itself is bigger, 'stealing' real estate.

If they ever made a nano touch in a shape like the current touch (or the 3g fatty, on it's side) I think you'll find it would still be 25% bigger than the current fatty at least.

I think this new one, will only have one feature from the touch and iphone and that's the gyroscope thingo which detects if it's up or sideways - purely for video watching.

It'll probably be 16gb too.
I still find the curves ugly and I honestly hated the fatty at first but eventually I loved it - it's a shame to go back to tall to be honest :/

[scottylans]

I was so looking forward to seeing iPod touch released with an internal hard drive for this month product release. Now that's my dream iPod. That's what I want. Thats what I have been waiting ever since iPod touch was released. I just don't get it. Why don't they do it.

Apple, will you just get rid of the classic and take the hard drive and install it into the touch. PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Two words can answer that question.

Battery life.

[scottylans]

Fatty versus Slim?

Of course with the slim the buttons are smaller in size.

Still debating which I like.

There's no debate to be had, one is actually useful for movies and video, the other looks like crap - fatty wins in the nano touch mockup awards.

[scottylans]

I would disagree with you.

IMHO, the Touch is a bit too small as it is -- coming from the Newton perspective. Gut feeling is that a smaller Touch screen would be hard to use and not all that useful. YMMV.

LOL no.

The touch is far far too big for anyone who goes to the gym.
My 3g nano is perfect at the gym, whereas a touch is ridiculously too big and heavy.

If they make a nano touch, ever, it has to be a bit bigger than the current 3g fatty but the same kind of shape (so it can do widescreen)

They need to keep the weight and size down for it to be practical.

[scottylans]

Aside from the nano news, I'm interested to see the price drops, as you can get an iPhone for 200 bucks now.


No you can't this rumour needs to die as soon as possible, argh it's people like you that wonder where credit card debt comes from.

[twoodcc]

well, i really am not sure about this new nano, but i guess i better get used to it

[scottylans]

Ok I caught up to date with the thread.

I have to sadly concede defeat :/
I am pretty sure the orange one is real - so we're stuck with dopey plastic caps at the ends and a curved screen (W.T.F?)

Then again the black ones allllmost look ok, I still prefer fatty much, much more but what can you do.
It better be 16gb though god damnit.


I have a philisophy of ALWAYS selling my ipods about this time of year and buying the new ones, purely because apple fans are such morons that I can sell the old one for 75% of the cost of the new one, keeping me with a fresh warranty and new features for very little money.

I sold my 2gb 1'st gen nano for 2/3 the cost of an 8gb 2gb nano.
I sold my 8gb 2g nano for 90% of the cost of my 8gb 3g nano!
and now, I'll likely sell my 8gb 3g nano for 70% the cost of a new 16gb 4g nano.

Fresh warranties, new features - better re-sale value if it's the newer model (try selling a 1 or 2g nano now)

Still,.... through all this, I do wish I could just have a 16gb 3g model - I don't like the slim much.

[dawnraid]

i found the green fake? in higher res. it actually looks a bit more real (the screen, closer up). i hope sj dosent release this.

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/2229/dsc10935by5.jpg

[Belly-laughs]

Here's a thought regarding the image of the boxed orange nano: Since the product now (allegedly) features an oval profile, would it not be in typical Apple style to reflect this in the packaging too, making the lid slightly curved rather than flat with rounded edges? Of course it may be due to box stacking in transit or on shelves, but still I feel the box shown doesn't quite go with Apple's usual attention to detail and presentation.

[LloydBraun89]

i found the green fake? in higher res. it actually looks a bit more real (the screen, closer up). i hope sj dosent release this.

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/2229/dsc10935by5.jpg

that has the old connector. so it is fake

[cobaltchroma]

that has the old connector. so it is fake
how so?

[gkarris]

how so?

The new connectors are smaller and simply pull out. The one pictured is the older, locking one...

[puffnstuff]

I've been repeatedly saying this, but the clickwheel design just makes no sense on these pictures. Apple would not release a product that's half-assed on design, so that's giveaway number one. The 2nd photo (the green one) makes little sense to me because I think Apple is shifting their new iPods (correct me if im wrong) with the smaller/shorter USB connector (the end that docks into the iPod), which has been shipping with the iPhone. The newer USB connector is smaller and serves the same purpose as the old one, probably making it cheaper because you don't have the buttons on the side to press (not much, but considering they're selling millions, it does save money) and sticks to their minimalist philosophy. And third, although no longer as common anymore, Apple would've taken this picture down by now wouldn't you think? If they're making a big event for the iPod, these leaks are too easily slipped.

Here's what I've been talking about the clickwheel design, if they're shifting to the longer nano design. It's similar to the Moto Rokr E8, in which it "lights" up different signs in different modes, eg video viewing, landscape mode vs music player. Of course, because the click wheel isn't that large, in landscape mode, just use and light up the letter "M" for the reverse or forward.

http://www.mobilegazette.com/handsets/motorola/motorola-rokr-e8/motorola-rokr-e8-combo.jpg

Like that idea! I hope apple does something like that

[scottylans]

that has the old connector. so it is fake

My ipod 3g has that connector with the buttons to remove it? When was a different one even released?

[majordude]

What more could you want from the shuffle?

A screen. :rolleyes:

[pooryou]

Wow those phones ^ look absolutely AWFUL :eek:

[SBik2]

My ipod 3g has that connector with the buttons to remove it? When was a different one even released?

i think one came with my first gen iPhone. and since the picture when a newer ipod is connected to a computer (3rd gen nano, iPod classic) thats when i noticed the change

[Mjmar]

It looks the best I've ever seen it in this picture. And after looking at my sister's 2nd gen. iPod nano, I realize how small this one will actually be in person. (if released) I certainly looks giant in these pictures. I still can't understand the curve though.

[na1577]

And third, although no longer as common anymore, Apple would've taken this picture down by now wouldn't you think? If they're making a big event for the iPod, these leaks are too easily slipped

You're right about it being less common now, which is why we can't assume that they will ask to have the pictures removed. Pictures and other details (http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/25/the-second-gen-iphone-3g-gps-only-slightly-thicker/) about the iPhone 3G were leaked months in advance (then again (http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/27/even-more-leaked-3g-iphone-photos-make-it-out/), and again (http://www.weiphone.com/thread-105920-1-2.html)). It's very possible that Apple will leave the leaks alone, especially for a minor iPod nano update.

[Mjmar]

I just watched the 3g nano keynote, and Steve clearly stated how Apple was trying to get away from the plastic caps that were on the 2g nano. No matter how much that I play this out in my head, it just doesn't make sense. I won't believe it until i see it. Also, if these photos were real wouldn't Apple ask these websites to take them down like they did last year?

[iTeen]

Ya know...I wonder if they would change the design of the nano after just one year?

Also, the nano is ment to be a COMPACT MUSIC PLAYER.

Why would they change the design just for videos?

[joenspa]

I just got back from China. I was there working on the Olympics. I saw this exact "iPod". The packaging was slightly different and there were a lot of knock offs so I paid no attention to it. The last time I saw it though was at the Yao Show market around the 26th of August at was suppose to be an "authorized" dealer.
Can't help but wonder now if some slipped out of the factory early.

[mr.suff]

No watermarks.
http://picboost.com/images/2008/September/6/nano4G.jpg

The bottom edge of the iPod looks odd, like the colour hasn't quite been PS'd properly.
The light reflection also looks PS'd. Far too in-focus, where the whole of the picture is out of focus.

I don't have an issue with this form factor, preferred the old 2G in my hand anyhow.

But this image just doesn't look right.

[PhotoPhoenix]

Whoaah... another FAKE picture!. My goodness, people are SO gullible!. Looks like a very good render, with a box photo superimposed onto it.

Amazing what Maya can do ;)

the photo is real. very bad camera/lens quality, more than likely a camera phone. take it from a photographer.

i find it weird that people still believe this is fake. we've seen the cases for these iPods before this photo even surfaced.

[Pikemann Urge]

50 bucks says we wake up tuesday morning to one of those.
Do you have PayPal? That's American dollars, yes?

[Lesser Evets]

the photo is real. very bad camera/lens quality, more than likely a camera phone. take it from a photographer.

i find it weird that people still believe this is fake. we've seen the cases for these iPods before this photo even surfaced.

If this is real, why are the strange pink highlites similar to a photoshop paint brush and utterly out of context in terms of light source? Why are the highlites SHARP and the rest of the photo blurry?

FAKE as FAKE can BE.

[echosmyron]

there's no doubt that it's the new nano. apple did a pretty bad job in keeping this a secret

[billysea]

This new iPod just feel like a step backward from Apple.
It feels like they can't come up with something new so they have to reuse their old design, with some tiny changes so it doesn't appear to be 100% the same.
The 3rd gen nano feels much more compact and expensive compare to this. I guess it has to do with the smaller proportion of the screen to the rest of the case.

[sushi]

The touch is far far too big for anyone who goes to the gym.
I would think that the 3g Nano or Shuffle would be a better fit.

My 3g nano is perfect at the gym, whereas a touch is ridiculously too big and heavy.
Well, yes. :confused:

If they make a nano touch, ever, it has to be a bit bigger than the current 3g fatty but the same kind of shape (so it can do widescreen)

They need to keep the weight and size down for it to be practical.
Let me clarify.

Agree that the iPod Touch is too big for the gym.

Personally, I have a 32GB Touch. I like it. But it is no Newton. The current Touch would need to be bigger and have more features to replace a Newton for functionality.

However, to shrink the current Touch to a Nano size, would reduced it's effectiveness as the screen would be too small IMHO. So I don't ever expect to see a iPod Touch Nano added to the iPod line.

[J71]

What I would like to see is a scratch proof case and a manual EQ for the new iPods.

[FightTheFuture]

as much as i like this new design, i really don't buy it. it's simply just a small design bump... when has Apple ever 'bumped' a products design for a generation? the 1st Gen nano was absolutely different from the mini, the 2nd Gen took some of the mini's looks back but was still a nano. the 3rd Gen was the size of a matchbook.

look at the evolution from the iPod to the iPod classic. the shuffle. the iPhone. i just don't think we'll see the nano go back to it's 2nd Gen roots with a longer screen. it'll most likely be as plasticky and curvy as the iPhone 3G. the 2nd Gen nano and iPod Classic took after the 1st Gen iPhone after all.

what i would really REALLY like is built in nike+ support. maybe nike can make the receiver smaller? they've been working with Apple for 2 years now and both are reaping the rewards. it's even possible that gym equipment will have it built in soon.

[LloydBraun89]

I would think that the 3g Nano or Shuffle would be a better fit.


Well, yes. :confused:


Let me clarify.

Agree that the iPod Touch is too big for the gym.

Personally, I have a 32GB Touch. I like it. But it is no Newton. The current Touch would need to be bigger and have more features to replace a Newton for functionality.

However, to shrink the current Touch to a Nano size, would reduced it's effectiveness as the screen would be too small IMHO. So I don't ever expect to see a iPod Touch Nano added to the iPod line.


Newton? dude this is 2008 that was 1993.

[Topher15]

Companies who had that kind of mindset "if it works don't change it" like Motorola with their cell phone product line got kicked really bad. Last I heard Motorola was dropping their cell division or selling it off. Wonder why?
Oh yeah, they don't have simple and cool features that others do.

Design changes for a reason, one of which is not "because it can be done". Apple change their designs because of some function they wish to achieve. For instance, they made the 3G Nano fat because they wanted a bigger screen, now they want a widescreen and so have resorted back to the tall form which is the best form for a widescreen.

If they create a 'Nano touch' then just buy a damn iPod touch - does the same but with additional features.

If your argument against buying the full iPod touch it because you like to use it when running/at the gym/etc then a touch screen makes even less sense. A touch screen on such a small device will require even more focus than the iPod touch does.

[WordLife565]

http://gizmodo.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2008/09/ipodnanocomparison.jpg

there we go, the packaging, the materials in package, this is the new iPod nano. it apparently went through a few revisions, as the appearance of the orange one seems a bit different than the green one.


http://gizmodo.com/5046304/the-mystery-of-ipod-nano-spy-photos

[Topher15]

I just watched the 3g nano keynote, and Steve clearly stated how Apple was trying to get away from the plastic caps that were on the 2g nano. No matter how much that I play this out in my head, it just doesn't make sense. I won't believe it until i see it.
They made the Nano fat for the bigger screen, not to get rid of the plastic caps. The plastic cap comment was probably a justification after the fact.

Are there any examples of Steve/Apple saying one thing then doing it a few years later? I remember him joking that making a flat screen iMac by cutting off the front of the iMac G3 wouldn't work - then they did exactly that a few years later!

Also, if these photos were real wouldn't Apple ask these websites to take them down like they did last year?
If they did that they would confirm it is true.

[avingochea]

well it doesn't look TOO bad..

[mossimo]

i like it, looks sharp to me :)

[archesdevil]

Much cooler than the fatty. Slight throwback to the mini, which I think is cool.

[jessica.]

I don't care I want an orange shuffle or nano!
I have a red shuffle which absolutely rocks, but orange is sweet.

[Pikemann Urge]

The light reflection also looks PS'd. Far too in-focus, where the whole of the picture is out of focus.
I don't think the image is fake, I just can't see this as an Apple product. I'd say that if someone wanted to fake the image with compositing software they would have blurred all the reflections to try to make it all look okay on superficial inspection. The reflections that are 'sharp' are likely just blown highlights.

[sushi]

Newton? dude this is 2008 that was 1993.
The Newton 2100 was discontinued in February 1998.

And it still does many things that the iPod Touch cannot do as of yet.

For example:
- Cut/Copy and Paste. :p
- Handwriting recognition.
- Microphone for recording.
- Speaker for audio playback.
- Ability to connect to an external keyboard.
- Built in screen protector.
- Ability to share data stores for use by all applications.

I could go on, but you get the point.

The iPod Touch is a wonderful device no doubt about it. However, it still cannot do things that the Newton could do and yet the Newton was discontinued over 10 years ago.

[mrat93]

The one on the left couldn't look more fake. The screen edges are a giveaway. And there's the older USB cable.

[archesdevil]

I don't care I want an orange shuffle or nano!
I have a red shuffle which absolutely rocks, but orange is sweet.

Agreed, I kick myself a lot for not getting an orange shuffle. Ahhhh, sweet redemption.

[brendanspah764]

First of all, the lawyers can't do anything since the picture is not Apple property. The 3G Nano pictures were off a Apple computer from the headquarters and someone took a picture of it, so the lawyers had the right to do something about it. With the new Apple keyboard, the lawyers couldn't do anything because someone took the picture probably off the Apple campus and the picture was not Apple property, it was just simply a pic of their product, not from a computer or anything.

[brendanspah764]

http://gizmodo.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2008/09/ipodnanocomparison.jpg

there we go, the packaging, the materials in package, this is the new iPod nano. it apparently went through a few revisions, as the appearance of the orange one seems a bit different than the green one.


http://gizmodo.com/5046304/the-mystery-of-ipod-nano-spy-photos

Except the unboxing photo is fake. Look at the universal dock thing, it is the style of the 2G Nano. The Nano has a more oval shape to it, so this is fake. Doesn't anyone see this???

[Desamell]

Except the unboxing photo is fake. Look at the universal dock thing, it is the style of the 2G Nano. The Nano has a more oval shape to it, so this is fake. Doesn't anyone see this???
and the middle button of the click wheel is indented in the one on the left and isnt on the right :apple:

[JW008]

and the middle button of the click wheel is indented in the one on the left and isnt on the right :apple:

I noticed that, too. Eerily similar to my 2G nano... :)

[kockgunner]

so where did all the people that hated the design go? :)

arn

hahaha i was wondering the same thing!

[serpico]

Once again, Apple has reinvented the ... Zune 4G?!?

But I like it — especially compared to the current iPod nano. Although every tech journalist in existence is going to hound on the fact that it looks just like the Zune 4G, over and over again.

Because it does look like a Zune. Just accept it and move on.;)

[serpico]

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5089/nano22st3.jpg

OMG, why curve the screen? This must be fake.

[serpico]

Yes... the UI does need a re-design. The Zune is absolutely killing us there. This half-menu/half-cover art thing is just awful.
I agree, the Zune UI is killer compared to the current menu we put up with in the current ipods.

[Vulcan]

I like it, hopefully we'll be able to see some price drops soon.

[SchneiderMan]

how can this reflection be?

[grubworth]

how can this reflection be?

Don't know if your being sarcastic but that apple logo you have circled is ON the packing, behind the plastic casing. "They" wouldn't photoshop that when you can just print out the documents or use some old ones. :)

It's pretty much certain that that is the new shape of the new nano.

[SchneiderMan]

it still looks like the old one
http://the-gadgeteer.com//assets/apple-2g-nano-1.jpg

[grubworth]

The green one is a early proto.

If anyone can come up with a new shape that is like a square or rectangle? We have had a fat square nano, a long rectangle nano, and now another one? when will apple invent a new shape?

I personally think the nonagon would be perfect. the new nano nonagon.

http://www.gazinotes.com/KS3-GCSE/AT4-Names%20of%20Shapes_files/image014.gif

[Pikemann Urge]

when will apple invent a new shape?
Hey why not? A circular iPod which is convex on both sides. The motto: "Rock 'n Roll" Rock it on the convex sides and roll it along its egde. Pure genius!

[Tosser]

Hey why not? A circular iPod which is convex on both sides. The motto: "Rock 'n Roll" Rock it on the convex sides and roll it along its egde. Pure genius!

Yeah, then the fanboys could claim apple invented that too, just like they did with the click wheel:
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/sc/31236402-2-440-overview-1.gif
http://bp1.blogger.com/_8U5YGYinltk/SABxurDR1oI/AAAAAAAABsw/FMQ2fot_92Q/s1600-h/BeoCom+4+-+Black+1.jpg
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~arne/phones/beocom3.JPG
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~arne/phones/beocom4_5.JPG
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~arne/phones/beocom1US_4.JPG
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~arne/phones/beocom1US_6.JPG

[sushi]

OMG, why curve the screen? This must be fake.
A curved screen doesn't make sense to me.

[Chandler Adaway]

Hm, I would have thought that the cord to sync the iPod would be like the one that came with my touch. The smaller one. Why would they use this when they have the smaller one available?

[trekkie604]

The green one is a early proto.

If anyone can come up with a new shape that is like a square or rectangle? We have had a fat square nano, a long rectangle nano, and now another one? when will apple invent a new shape?

I personally think the nonagon would be perfect. the new nano nonagon.

http://www.gazinotes.com/KS3-GCSE/AT4-Names%20of%20Shapes_files/image014.gif
lol I'm sure the FAA would love to let you on a plane with a nano shaped like that

[scottylans]

I would think that the 3g Nano or Shuffle would be a better fit.


Well, yes. :confused:


Let me clarify.

Agree that the iPod Touch is too big for the gym.

Personally, I have a 32GB Touch. I like it. But it is no Newton. The current Touch would need to be bigger and have more features to replace a Newton for functionality.

However, to shrink the current Touch to a Nano size, would reduced it's effectiveness as the screen would be too small IMHO. So I don't ever expect to see a iPod Touch Nano added to the iPod line.

I don't see why the full size touch can't have all the features you want, while a simpler touch would be a nano edition, just movies, music - on the go in a smaller package - maybe no bigger than 25% larger than a nano 3g and no heavier than another 35% - with 32gb, I'd buy one for sure, even at 250$ US
EDIT: BUT IT MUST have some kind of pause button at least - so you can pause without looking @ the screen.

[scottylans]

Hm, I would have thought that the cord to sync the iPod would be like the one that came with my touch. The smaller one. Why would they use this when they have the smaller one available?

What's this small one look like and is it a standard plug? does it work with all their peripherals and docks?

I've never heard of it until today.

[Bonte]

ts, maybe :/

The screen is flat but looks curved because the iPod itself is rounded.

http://applediario.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/ipod-nano-4g.jpg
http://applediario.com/2008/08/26/asi-sera-el-nuevo-ipod/

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5089/nano22st3.jpg
(Originally Posted by i0Nic)

[athiskemon]

I just edited this photo that I found in the net... just mak'n fun... :eek:

http://www.imeem.com/athiskemon/photo/j6XFXutsiE/

if you can't see the image just open this page... don't know why it won't show...

http://www.imeem.com/athiskemon/photo/j6XFXutsiE/

:)

[Foocha]

I agree with the posters who have proposed a smaller touch iPod, although I think that those who highlight the problem of size also have a point. The interface would have to change to accommodate the reduced size. I put together some mockups of how this might look on my blog (http://www.macpredictions.com/2008/07/where-are-apples-diminishing-margins.html) a couple of months back:

http://bp0.blogger.com/_DVemXS6fKCQ/SIzjOj5YmTI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/LotiFDnOHq8/s400/9icon_multitouch_ipod_classic.jpg (http://www.macpredictions.com/2008/07/where-are-apples-diminishing-margins.html)

Introducing a 9-icon variant of the iPhone OS would add a significant ongoing overhead to the development of the platform. Nonetheless, given the importance of offering smaller form-factor devices, it may well make sense for Apple to branch development in this way. It would mean that standard iPhone apps would not work on this platform - they would require adaptation.

[Stike]

I just edited this photo that I found in the net... just mak'n fun... :eek:

http://www.imeem.com/athiskemon/photo/j6XFXutsiE/

if you can't see the image just open this page... don't know why it won't show...

http://www.imeem.com/athiskemon/photo/j6XFXutsiE/

:)

Looks tasty :)

[pille125]

Am I the only one that thinks that it could be just a chinese fake? i mean it wouldnt be the first time that the chinese fake an ipod or what they think could be the new ipod and i bet it wouldnt be a big deal for them to produce such a device.
I'm still thinking that this thing is fake and apple is going to suprise us with something new and exciting.

[Nomadski]

I agree with the posters who have proposed a smaller touch iPod, although I think that those who highlight the problem of size also have a point. The interface would have to change to accommodate the reduced size. I put together some mockups of how this might look on my blog (http://www.macpredictions.com/2008/07/where-are-apples-diminishing-margins.html) a couple of months back:

http://bp0.blogger.com/_DVemXS6fKCQ/SIzjOj5YmTI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/LotiFDnOHq8/s400/9icon_multitouch_ipod_classic.jpg (http://www.macpredictions.com/2008/07/where-are-apples-diminishing-margins.html)

Introducing a 9-icon variant of the iPhone OS would add a significant ongoing overhead to the development of the platform. Nonetheless, given the importance of offering smaller form-factor devices, it may well make sense for Apple to branch development in this way. It would mean that standard iPhone apps would not work on this platform - they would require adaptation.

That mockup looks 10000000000x better than the new ipod nano. I hate the new design, it feels like they have gone backwards with their design, not forwards, except they made it curvy!!!!! :(

Maybe im in the minority who like the current Nanos, but i think that mockup above looks like a step forward with its interface in keeping with other products.

[Chandler Adaway]

What's this small one look like and is it a standard plug? does it work with all their peripherals and docks?

I've never heard of it until today.

Works with all of my iPods. Even the older ones.
BTW, I got this picture from the Apple iPod touch site.

[puffnstuff]

The games on the nano would probably be a lot more fun then on the touch because you will have the clickwheel + motion sensor. And if the nano has modeshift like the rokr e8 when your in game mode the click wheel would change into a gamepad. :crosses fingers: :D

[markintellect]

Maybe the clickwheel text is e-paper, so it doesn't draw any more power than it needs to redraw the text?

[DaleMassey]

I have to agree with the 9 icon SpringBoard for the nano. It'd mean the screen DPI would be the same, just a smaller screen with a smaller res (That looks the same res as the larger screened versions).
Could even work for the shuffle!

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2379/0812revisionah4.png
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5633/intapple99fpsplashxs0.jpg

[carve]

The new nano design is growing on me, I might have to pick one up. Unless, they make the classic cheaper.

[NC MacGuy]

I'll have to play with one in person. I wasn't happy with the 3rd gen. either until I actually held the chubby in my hand and fondled it.

[Mindflux]

held the chubby in my hand and fondled it.


Leave those thoughts at home, mister!

[NT1440]

I have to agree with the 9 icon SpringBoard for the nano. It'd mean the screen DPI would be the same, just a smaller screen with a smaller res (That looks the same res as the larger screened versions).
Could even work for the shuffle!

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2379/0812revisionah4.png
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5633/intapple99fpsplashxs0.jpg

THAT would remind me of the Apple ive come to know and love, products that people can actually get excited waiting for. I remember just last year being giddy while waiting for xmas season when my dad would pay half for my touch.

This year i havent really seen anything that gets me that excited (new macbooks would require new pants on this end:D). That may be because im not a fan of phones however

[applelover91k]

don't get e wrong, im 95% sure im buyin one of these, im just upset about the curve. i mean, we used to have curved tv's and moved on to tht e flat screen, why does the ipod have to be curved!? Oh well, it's still amazing!:cool:

[NT1440]

don't get e wrong, im 95% sure im buyin one of these, im just upset about the curve. i mean, we used to have curved tv's and moved on to tht e flat screen, why does the ipod have to be curved!? Oh well, it's still amazing!:cool:

it probably comes down to ergonomics now. Apple may be moving towards the best experience possible with there devices in terms of useage, looks, and now feel.

[AtHomeBoy_2000]

My gut says that the "classic" line will be replaced with the "touch" line with flash and HDD versions.

and unfortunately the nano will be the "leaked" nano that we have been seeing, but with a new looking OS.

[NT1440]

My gut says that the "classic" line will be replaced with the "touch" line with flash and HDD versions.

and unfortunately the nano will be the "leaked" nano that we have been seeing, but with a new looking OS.

i really dont see the touch with HDD, unless they really put some work into the thing, the UI would be noticebly choppier than one of the flash based ipods.

[AtHomeBoy_2000]

i really dont see the touch with HDD, unless they really put some work into the thing, the UI would be noticebly choppier than one of the flash based ipods.

the problem is that they still need a "large capacity" ipod and I think they REALLY want to make as many of them touch as possible. So, they might be willing to give it a shot.

[NT1440]

the problem is that they still need a "large capacity" ipod and I think they REALLY want to make as many of them touch as possible. So, they might be willing to give it a shot.

eh, like someone else already said. Every ipod line has its purpose. I dont see the touch based ipods being the large capacity line until large capacity chips are available at competive pricing to HDD. Apple always forsees when a medium is coming to an end, and im sure they see the end of HDDs on the horizon (say 5-10 years until Flash is a serious threat to the HD market.)

[BoyBach]

"Give a little touch..." mock-up


Very nice! :)

[AtHomeBoy_2000]

eh, like someone else already said. Every ipod line has its purpose. I dont see the touch based ipods being the large capacity line until large capacity chips are available at competive pricing to HDD. Apple always forsees when a medium is coming to an end, and im sure they see the end of HDDs on the horizon (say 5-10 years until Flash is a serious threat to the HD market.)

that's a fair point.

I'm juts trying to think of something that might shake things up a bit.

[thisrocks]

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5089/nano22st3.jpg
(Originally Posted by i0Nic)

Firstly...has no-one said anything about the above picture because it looks so incredibly fake and you're all just ignoring it for that reason...or do the same people that can speculate over single pixels in other photos be so blatantly blind as to ignore the poor, poor, poor effort of this photo....or did I miss something.


Second..who the hell said anything about an accelerometer for the screen to go sideways. It would only need to go sideways when you're watching a movie and the software could do that :S They're already using relatively expensive equipment in it...why pay more for something so unnecessary? That's assuming of course we get the tall model again.

It's also funny everyone sees Apple as a design company first, and then a technology company. It's not fashion people, they're allowed to use "old" designs because people make mistakes, and research reveals the truth. Tall slim just works for the nano line.

It's like....if they stay with the fatty, they're not being creative enough. If they make it tall and slim they're reusing ideas (ie - not being creative enough.) I like the nonagon idea because it really illustrates the craziness Apple users have come to show.

Why couldn't computers just remain in the hands of nerds :(

[jessica.]

I'll have to play with one in person. I wasn't happy with the 3rd gen. either until I actually held the chubby in my hand and fondled it.
The chubby actually grew on me over time. ;)
Leave those thoughts at home, mister!
:p

[NC MacGuy]

^^^Some of you have unwholesome minds.:p

I would never call my nano fatty. Chubby is much more appropriate.

[marclapierre13]

so where did all the people that hated the design go? :)

arn

Right here lol. I still like my 2nd gen nano better than the 3rd or 4th gen.

[Killyp]

I bought a 1st gen Nano for my sister, and while it's good, it's shape is no-way near as nice as my 3rd gen IMO.

Still, I will reserve judgement until I see one of the supposed new ones in the flesh...

[lkrmd7]

i am pretty sure this photo is real i have a similar one on my website but mine is red look at my web site, at http://techuniverses.blogspot.com

See for your self!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DaleMassey]

this photo is real i have a similar one on my website but mine is red look at my web site, at http://techuniverses.blogspot.com

See for your self!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmm... looks a lot like the green one posted earlier in the thread. IE: Its not curved to the sides and the screen has a lot of artifacting on it... makes me think its a product:RED 2G with the screen copy and pasted?

[puffnstuff]

this photo is real i have a similar one on my website but mine is red look at my web site, at http://techuniverses.blogspot.com

See for your self!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

^ this loser is just looking to get visitors to his crap blog. I'm sorry I clicked looks like I just raised your alexa rank congrats. :rolleyes:

[julianzz]

this photo is real i have a similar one on my website but mine is red look at my web site, at http://techuniverses.blogspot.com

See for your self!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Photoshopped Product Red Nano to mimic the larger screen.

Just some kid looking for hits. Unfortunately I gave him one.

[Pikemann Urge]

this photo is real i have a similar one on my website but mine is red look at my web site, at http://techuniverses.blogspot.com

See for your self!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Opinions - crazy ones even - are fine. But trying to pass of pure fiction as fact? :rolleyes: How old are you? 13? You really think we're that stupid? Have you not even been reading this thread? Unfortunately I did click your link before reading further. Oh well you win. But site hits don't pay bills.

[papiti]

I really don't hope they use this green.

Ugly as sin.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/09/ipod-nano-4g-lime-eng.jpg

:D I'm just wondering if anybody noticed that the dock adapter is kind of slim and long, basically built for the current Nano, not for the fake one in the picture. Totally fake!!!!!

[Craigy]

Is it just me - I thought Apple were committed to producing environmentally conscious packaging.

The Macbooks and iPhones I have brought have great packaging - this one for the Nano is plain nasty... Come on Apple you can do better than this...?

PS: I"m not a big tree hugger usually! :)

[rrdesigns]

I will start by saying that I absolutely LOVE the color. But seriously, I have my old 4gb ipod nano sitting in front of me from i don't even know how long ago and it looks soooo similar! Common, is this the best they can do after all those years? I mean, at least the last generation was adorably tiny and short. It feels like they're going backwards. Perhaps this can do something new and innovative but I dunno.

[rrdesigns]

:D I'm just wondering if anybody noticed that the dock adapter is kind of slim and long, basically built for the current Nano, not for the fake one in the picture. Totally fake!!!!!

oh gross, this looks just like a zune!

[DHUK]

I can't help thinking Apple would upgrade the Nano to something more than this. Their App Store is hugely successful - should it only me limited to the iPhone and iPod Touch? Saying that, I don't mind the design of the 4th Gen getting knocked about here.

[puffnstuff]

The games on the nano would probably be a lot more fun then on the touch because you will have the clickwheel + motion sensor. And if the nano has modeshift like the rokr e8 when your in game mode the click wheel would change into a gamepad. :crosses fingers: :D

Here I tweaked a mockup to look like what I was describing



http://lh3.ggpht.com/Toyota4Lyfe/SMVPWSK4dQI/AAAAAAAAAW0/W1D4P0FNVYI/gamenano.jpg

[Roessnakhan]

oh gross, this looks just like a zune!

I'm surprised how short people's memory capacity is. Only one generation of the nano has been different from the elongated design, and that is the most recent 3G. Considering that the first two generations of the iPod nano were BEFORE the smaller Zune it doesn't make sense to say the rumoured 4G nano looks like a Zune, but looks like previous generations with just a longer screen.

[rychencop]

:D I'm just wondering if anybody noticed that the dock adapter is kind of slim and long, basically built for the current Nano, not for the fake one in the picture. Totally fake!!!!!

that adapter looks nothing like my 3G adapter. you're going to see that these pics are right on the money. we shall all see tomorrow.

[rychencop]

I agree with the posters who have proposed a smaller touch iPod, although I think that those who highlight the problem of size also have a point. The interface would have to change to accommodate the reduced size. I put together some mockups of how this might look on my blog (http://www.macpredictions.com/2008/07/where-are-apples-diminishing-margins.html) a couple of months back:

http://bp0.blogger.com/_DVemXS6fKCQ/SIzjOj5YmTI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/LotiFDnOHq8/s400/9icon_multitouch_ipod_classic.jpg (http://www.macpredictions.com/2008/07/where-are-apples-diminishing-margins.html)

Introducing a 9-icon variant of the iPhone OS would add a significant ongoing overhead to the development of the platform. Nonetheless, given the importance of offering smaller form-factor devices, it may well make sense for Apple to branch development in this way. It would mean that standard iPhone apps would not work on this platform - they would require adaptation.

now that is a nano i would buy. nano touch. hell yeah!!

[RebelScum]

now that is a nano i would buy. nano touch. hell yeah!!

Yup :)

[RebelScum]

i am pretty sure this photo is real i have a similar one on my website but mine is red look at my web site, at http://techuniverses.blogspot.com

See for your self!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lamest. Mockup. Evar.

[RebelScum]

I'm surprised how short people's memory capacity is. Only one generation of the nano has been different from the elongated design, and that is the most recent 3G. Considering that the first two generations of the iPod nano were BEFORE the smaller Zune it doesn't make sense to say the rumoured 4G nano looks like a Zune, but looks like previous generations with just a longer screen.

Hi9larious...I was thinking this very thing. It's not even been a year since the 3G nanos were released and it's as though the "Thinner than a pencil" launch never even happened :)

Oh to go back to 2006 again :)

[Nieval]

I just read on engadget that all iPod nano 3G will be discarded once the new ones come out. Basically, even if they have some and you want to buy you won't be able to.

[Clayne]

That's messed up.

[NC MacGuy]

I just read on engadget that all iPod nano 3G will be discarded once the new ones come out. Basically, even if they have some and you want to buy you won't be able to.

I can't see Apple not making a buck by throwing them out. I think they'll resurface in their on-line store special deals section.

[lgoodlove]

I'm guessing and hoping this is a fake.

i went to a electronics liquidation last weekend and saw fake ipod that looked just like this. I HAVE PICTURES TO SHOW IF ANYONE WANTS THEM.

Look how there is no apple symbol on the bottom of the case. Apple puts there symbol every were i just don't see this being real. Also these designs look to thick. THis is steve jobs were talking about here, it should be paper thin.

[Maldini]

The Idea of an ipod nano is to be really tiny but this one is bigger than the current model, i dont get it.
I'm more interested in the touch...

[Dany M]

IT is bigger than this one but in respects to the first two nano's it fits right in

[Chandler Adaway]

Does everyone remember when the Nano came out with the colored screen?
I was in class and some one pulled one out, and everybody was flipping out.
We all took turns playing those preset games it came with.

And now, just a couple years later, we have the iPod touch.

Pretty crazy huh?

Can't wait to see the next products.

Hopefully Apple put some use to the screen relestate on this Gen Nano.

I guess we'll see tomorrow.

[amoney]

Unless Apple is now ripping off the counterfeiters in China:

http://picasaweb.google.com/piston650/FakeIPods?pli=1#5244047587380033826

I took that photo last Oct. 07. Remove the logo on the screen and it's the same right down to the packaging.

[amoney]

Post deleted.

[unlokia]

I suppose I had better go and buy myself a hat, sprinkle some pepper on it, and eat it! :D

Looks like I was wrong - don't think many people will admit that. ;)

[soundsgoodtome]

Not from Apple, you won't. That design is not something that Apple would release. No way.

These are the kinds of posts that baffle me, year after year. There's always some guy, like this one, who says, "No way." And almost every time, they get proven wrong.

Why set yourself up for embarrassment by making such definitive statements?

Way.

[Pikemann Urge]

These are the kinds of posts that baffle me, year after year. There's always some guy, like this one, who says, "No way." And almost every time, they get proven wrong.

Why set yourself up for embarrassment by making such definitive statements?
You're right. Part of me thought this nano was in no way an Apple product. Another part of me saw that there weren't enough people for the negative - everyone had thrown in the towel! Where was the strong view for the other side? And so for the sake of being a contrarian I typed my comment. No regrets, even if I do look like a fool. ;)

[thisrocks]

Nah you don't look like a fool at all. You voiced your opinion on a rumor. That's what this place is "MacRumors" albeit this is an "Apple" product, no need for distinction here haha.

It's funny how the leak managed to find the most ugly angle of the new nano. From all the marketing shots it doesn't look as bad, but the whole click wheel = no change fact still bugs me, I'm sure they could have worked on fixing that rather than an accelerometer which ultimately does one thing, shuffle next song. (Switching to side view can be done with button shortcuts just as easy) but shuffle to next song is good as it saves you looking at the device at all, as opposed to the fact that if you want to screen to change, it's because you're LOOKING at it.

[lauph]

So the dock connector cannot be of a symmetric shape, since its off to the side and the ipod is curved...

So. is it?