Men: Do you shave your legs, arms and everything below the neck?

[kabunaru]

I do and I shave everything below the neck (that means legs, arms, chest, private area, etc). It very hygienic to do so and I do not care if somebody is going to say something bad about it or not. I exercise a lot too (running and walking a lot) so shaving helps there too. I also feel more comfortable when fully shaved "below the neck".

Is any one doing this too or am I the only one?

[Samarium]

I think there is already a shaving thread somewhere. I'll post the link if I find it.

Edit: Here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=84676) is the thread I was talking about.

[kabunaru]

I think there is already a shaving thread somewhere. I'll post the link if I find it.

But this is more "below the neck" specific kind of shaving thread.

Edit: Also, that thread is old.

By the way, do you shave "below the neck" for some purposes?

[Samarium]

But this is more "below the neck" specific kind of shaving thread.

Edit: Also, that thread is old.

By the way, do you shave "below the neck" for some purposes?

Only down there.

[kabunaru]

Only down there.

And I do not think that it is wrong to do so. Man's body is just as unique and pleasing as the woman's. There should be nothing to be ashamed of about the human body.
If a man wants to shave, let him. Screw the society standard where "women should only shave there".

That is how I think. Just look at the ancient civilisations (Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, etc). Men shaved their bodies back then.

[viccles]

EVERYWHERE below the neck? I like a guy with no body hair :D. The swimmer look! (I'm a girl for anyone that didn't know)

[kabunaru]

EVERYWHERE below the neck?

Yes and I am not scared to admit this. I shave 1-2 times a week though and it is never annoying to me though.

[eXan]

This is madness ...

[Compile 'em all]

EVERYWHERE below the neck? I like a guy with no body hair :D. The swimmer look! (I'm a girl for anyone that didn't know)

I know tons of women that are the complete opposite and would like men to have some hair on them. :cool: :D

[kabunaru]

This is madness ...
Why?

[Melrose]

This reminds me of Mittens for some reason.

I know tons of women that are the complete opposite and would like men to have some hair on them. :cool: :D
I thought most women liked the 'hairy-but-trimmed' type of guy?

I used to shave my um, *ahem* Gentlemen's Environs but that's going back many years... I don't shave down there anymore (more of a rough trim with a dull straight-edge...). I never have shaved my chest, pits (arm) or legs and have no desire to do so.

I try to get by with as little shaving as I can. I am naturally very sparse in body hair anyway. More of the oriental look, you could say. It takes me four or five days to get a five o'clock shadow, so I go a couple days without shaving (facial) if I can.

Come now, ladies, your turn: Fess up! ;)

And if you want a laugh, check this out (http://www.shaveeverywhere.com/). :D

[Prof.]

I don't. I just trim the pubes. :rolleyes:

[kabunaru]

I thought most women liked the 'hairy-but-trimmed' type of guy?


Why is there this notion "men should have hair while women do not"?
I sure go against that and I do not find any thing wrong with doing it.

[Rhosfelt]

I leave hair where it is considered normal to have it; arms, legs, armpits and during hockey playoffs the face. :)

[Big-TDI-Guy]

It's Hygenic to shave? So... it's Un-Hygenic to not shave? :confused:

I'll take the word of couple-million years evolution over yours, no offense.

That said - there is nothing quite like a smooth runway. :D

God I miss her. :(

[Melrose]

^^ Landing Strip, eh?

Why is there this notion "men should have hair while women do not"?
I sure go against that and I do not find any thing wrong with doing it.

I don't get why some guys like their women with no hair. It just strikes me as being a little... well, adolescent-looking. By all means, be hairy.

Be Hairy, Be Happy. Anyone know where I can have a bumper sticker printed?

[NT1440]

depends on the mood really, sometimes ill shave "down there" but it doesnt really matter, no one else sees it:D

















:(

[Prof.]

depends on the mood really, sometimes ill shave "down there" but it doesnt really matter, no one else sees it:D

















:(
That seriously made me go "Awwwwww"

Same here tho. :rolleyes::(

[Big-TDI-Guy]

Okay - the best way I can explain without getting banned from MR...

With a smooth landing strip - feels different. And makes for a new and interesting experience during cunnilingis (sp?).

I have nothing against women who go natural - but trimmed nether regions really roger my hammerstein.

That explain it? :)

[NT1440]

Okay - the best way I can explain without getting banned from MR...

With a smooth landing strip - feels different. And makes for a new and interesting experience during cunnilingis (sp?).

I have nothing against women who go natural - but trimmed nether regions really roger my hammerstein.

That explain it? :)
I LOL'ed:D

[kabunaru]

I leave hair where it is considered normal to have it; arms, legs, armpits and during hockey playoffs the face. :)

I consider not having hair below the neck "normal" now. I cannot imagine having hair any where below the neck now.

[Melrose]

I guess you could say it really Porgys your Bess. You know, really Sonnys your Cher. It really -- I must stop. :D

[kabunaru]

but it doesnt really matter, no one else sees it:D


Either people see my shaved arms and legs and do not care or they do not notice it and that is why they are silent about it so far.

[Abstract]

Man's body is just as unique and pleasing as the woman's.

Not from my viewpoint.

[MowingDevil]

I consider not having hair below the neck "normal" now. I cannot imagine having hair any where below the neck now.

Normal to you but not natural.

I really think this is some ingrained desire for man to seperate ourselves from beast. Perhaps while in our natural hairy state we remind ourselves too much of our relative primates. Whats next, shaving eyebrows?

[twoodcc]

well, i barely keep up with shaving my face.

one time they had to cut my arm pit hair for a drug test (for a job). that was weird

[Abstract]

Normal to you but not natural.

I really think this is some ingrained desire for man to seperate ourselves from beast. Perhaps while in our natural hairy state we remind ourselves too much of our relative primates. Whats next, shaving eyebrows?

They already do it in Japan. Some people shave off (or drastically reduce) their eyebrows and draw in the shape they like (usually thin eyebrows).

[vniow]

This seems to be a popular topic, cropping up every couple years or so. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=147106


Lets see if this one gets as hilarious as the first.

[spencers]

everything but my legs

[donga]

no dude. no point unless you're a swimmer or pr0nstar or something

[ravenvii]

I lol'd @ the OP changing the title of the thread at least twice.

Oh, no I don't shave anything below my neck. Might trim a certain area to make a certain body part seem bigger. *winks at the ladies*

:D

[iAlan]

I do trim my naughty area - it makes the naughty bit look bigger (as pointed out above), not that I need it to look bigger, now I sound defensive about iAlan-Junior, not that it is junior, again defensive. I think I will go now.

:p

This reminds me of a stupid one-liner "My girfriend/boyfriend/other has hair all down her/his/its back - none on her/his/its head, just down her/his/its back'

Had to cover all contingencies with the above, not wanting to exclude anyone/anything

:p

Oh, I do pull grey hairs out of my chest - not exactly shaving but below the neck. I can also pull rabbits out of hats.

:p

And just to reiterate, it isn't small

:p

[Prof.]

I do trim my naughty area - it makes the naughty bit look bigger (as pointed out above), not that I need it to look bigger, now I sound defensive about iAlan-Junior, not that it is junior, again defensive. I think I will go now.

:p

This reminds me of a stupid one-liner "My girfriend/boyfriend/other has hair all down her/his/its back - none on her/his/its head, just down her/his/its back'

Had to cover all contingencies with the above, not wanting to exclude anyone/anything

:p

Oh, I do pull grey hairs out of my chest - not exactly shaving but below the neck. I can also pull rabbits out of hats.

:p

And just to reiterate, it isn't small

:p
So you're small?:confused:

:p

[blurredline]

ohhhh, Manscaping, it's the best.
If it makes me look even better than I already do, then sure why not. haha, just kidding! But seriously, gotta keep it all clean and "presentable"

[Chappers]

I don't shave - it's waxing only for real men.

[davidjearly]

No, because I'm a real man. ;)

But, whatever floats your boat OP. I prefer to ensure that I am floating my partner's boat.

[iAlan]

So you're small?:confused:

:p

No one has complained yet and it is well used :eek:

I couldn't imaging fully shaved though. Not that I am hairy all over, but a bald patch anywhere other than the top of your head is just not natural. What if you change your mind after completing said shave, you can't get a wig for it can you?

:p

[Randman]

I think grooming above the neck is more important. Having hair cut to a decent length for your age/profession. Shaving when appropriate (though a few days' stubble is also cool). Make sure nose hair is well-managed and no bushery hanging out. Make sure eye brows don't get overly bushy. Getting older and now the inside of the ears need a quick trim once a week or so.

During summer months or when involved in a vigorous hobby/activity, I'll shave off the armpit hair. And I'll trim not shave the nether regions though to be honest, this is better done with someone else (I'll trim you, you shave me) as it too can lead to some vigorous activity/hobby.

[davidjearly]

What if you change your mind after completing said shave, you can't get a wig for it can you?

:p

Sadly, it would appear that you can. See here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin) and here (http://www.merkinworld.com/).

[Gray-Wolf]

An answer to the original question, Absolutely NOT! I have hairy arms and legs. :D

I also have a full beard.

[arkitect]

Sadly, it would appear that you can. See here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin) and here (http://www.merkinworld.com/).

What a lovely word.
Merkin.

:D:D

Men: Do you shave your legs, arms and everything below the neck?
Location: Ancient Egypt
Since you're from Ancient Egypt you should be a dab hand at body-sugaring… no?
;)

[Queso]

Absolutely not. The mere thought of it makes my stomach turn.

[Melrose]

Arkitect: Haha you said merkin. :D

And iAlan, never underestimate the power of the 'extra visual inch.' That is, of course, if one needs it in the first place. :D

my experience:
I let mine grow real long. Once, I was trapped on this little desert island, and to escape I waded out into the shallows and lashed two sea turtles together into a raft with ropes I braided from... my... hair. Ah, sweet escape!
</truestory>

[iGary]

Good Lord, not another one of these.

[yrsonicdeath]

Good Lord, not another one of these.

I was thinking the same thing! Wouldn't this be awfully time consuming? Seems pretty obsessive to me as I find shaving my face to be bothersome. Wouldn't you have to do this several times a week for it to actually serve it's goal?

[sushi]

No, unless someone had a gun pointed to my head.

[cleanup]

Trim pubes shave bush. I'll admit the hair on my thighs is a bit annoying. Everything else is fine, though. Doesn't bother me. And I think shaved legs would look weird when I wear anything but running or board shorts.

[mlemonds]

no.

"Fellas, if you are going to shave your pubes, you better shave your whole body, because nothing looks weirder than a hairy gut, hairy legs and nothing in between. It looks like a garbage fire broke out on your n*****k."
-Dave Attell

[MowingDevil]

I lol'd @ the OP changing the title of the thread at least twice.

Just curious what the original subject title was.
I saw one poster complain abo it and was wondering what the problem was.

[skunk]

Never. Nothing but hassle. Life is too short.

[Queso]

Never. Nothing but hassle. Life is too short.
As is some people's body hair by the sound of things.

[skunk]

As is some people's body hair by the sound of things.Bears FTW, eh? :)

[whooleytoo]

It very hygienic to do so

If it's hygenic to shave your body, then presumably it's hygenic to shave your head too? And eyebrows?

I'm not sure how far one could go - it seems to be a case of diminishing returns. Dirt always tends to get caught under my fingernails over time - should I remove them too? ;)

[yrsonicdeath]

If it's hygenic to shave your body, then presumably it's hygenic to shave your head too? And eyebrows?

I'm not sure how far one could go - it seems to be a case of diminishing returns. Dirt always tends to get caught under my fingernails over time - should I remove them too? ;)

Maybe your skin too. I don't know see how far you can get, make a night of it.

[skunk]

Eating is a pretty unhygienic occupation, too.

[DarthTreydor]

::peeks in thread::

::backs out slowly::

[whooleytoo]

Maybe your skin too. I don't know see how far you can get, make a night of it.

Steady.. I don't want to go too far. Might drive the women c-c-c-crazy!*

(* quite literally)

[ucfgrad93]

Men: Do you shave your legs, arms, and everything below the neck?

No.

And just out of curiosity, how long does all that take?

[yrsonicdeath]

Steady.. I don't want to go too far. Might drive the women c-c-c-crazy!*

(* quite literally)

Actually, it kind of reminds me of the Simpsons episode with the fog that turns you inside out.

[mouchoir]

Either people see my shaved arms and legs and do not care or they do not notice it and that is why they are silent about it so far.

After a day or two, are you not just coated in all over body stubble? :eek:

[dilbert4life]

I'll take the word of couple-million years evolution over yours, no offense.


Umm, what's with the millions of years? It has been scientifically proven many times that the universe is only about 6,000 years old.

Anyways, back to the point, shaving.

Umm, it depends on how I feel. Never shaved legs, or armpits, but it doesn't mean that I am opposed to it. For what it's worth though, once I get married, I will let my wife decide what she likes.

[Antares]

I have a difficult enough time keeping my face shaved..I can't imagine trying to keep my whole body shaved.

That said, I shave my back if I'm going on a date or out with friends where there's a chance I may meet someone.... Otherwise, grow baby grow.

[dukebound85]

I do and I shave everything below the neck (that means legs, arms, chest, private area, etc). It very hygienic to do so and I do not care if somebody is going to say something bad about it or not. I exercise a lot too (running and walking a lot) so shaving helps there too. I also feel more comfortable when fully shaved "below the neck".

Is any one doing this too or am I the only one?

wow

no offense but i dont understand this at all. why do some guys insist on looking like little boys? thats how i see it when you shave yourself completely

i only shave my face and even then when i dont have something important going on, ill even let that go lol

[leekohler]

I shave the following:

Head
Chest
Face and neck
Upper arm area, but not forearm
The "twins", down there. ;)

I also trim the pubic area.

It's so much more comfortable. I feel cleaner and it keeps my body temp down. I'm a gym rat too, so it definitely helps with keeping cooler.

[dukebound85]

Not from my viewpoint.

haha that made me laugh:D

so true

[Rhosfelt]

Umm, what's with the millions of years? It has been scientifically proven many times that the universe is only about 6,000 years old.

uh? What? The earth itself is 4.6 billion years old.

[leekohler]

wow

no offense but i dont understand this at all. why do some guys insist on looking like little boys? thats how i see it when you shave yourself completely

i only shave my face and even then when i dont have something important going on, ill even let that go lol

It's simply a preference, honestly. I know I feel more comfortable shaving the things I do.

[dukebound85]

It's simply a preference, honestly. I know I feel more comfortable shaving the things I do.

yea i guess do what you like, i just dont understand it at all lol

[xlii]

This is something I would never consider doing. I can understand a male competitive swimmer doing it for areodynamic reasons. For me this ranks right up there with men who where earrings and people who feel the need to pierce their tongue, nose, nipple... whatever... and put a piece of metal in there. I just don't get it. But it's a free country and you can do what you want... just don't date my daughter.

[Antares]

I shave the following:
.....The "twins", down there. ;)


Ouch. Blade or electric? I cringe at how that must feel. Then again, I get kind of testy when it concerns anything sharp going near that most sensitive place.

[whooleytoo]

Umm, what's with the millions of years? It has been scientifically proven many times that the universe is only about 6,000 years old.

It must be true, John McCain said so (believe he kick-started the whole thing).

I wonder if he shaves...

...ok, now I feel ill..

[leekohler]

Ouch. Blade or electric? I cringe at how that must feel. Then again, I get kind of testy when it concerns anything sharp going near that most sensitive place.

Blade. Actually, it's pretty quick and easy. It only takes about a minute. It's funny, it seems to me that the most delicate skin is on the face. Nowhere else do I ever seem to have a problem with cuts or anything.

[Prof.]

I like guys with a lil hair on their chest and stomach.:D

Mmmmmmm... Jake Gyllenhaal.
http://spectacle.provocateuse.com/images/spectacles/jake_gyllenhaal_02.jpg

[whooleytoo]

Blade. Actually, it's pretty quick and easy. It only takes about a minute. It's funny, it seems to me that the most delicate skin is on the face. Nowhere else do I ever seem to have a problem with cuts or anything.

Probably because it's the only(?) area you shave daily. Stop shaving your face for a day or two, and it'll be much easier/more comfortable. Or conversely, try shaving everything else every single day, and see how quick 'n' easy it is then! :p

[skunk]

This is something I would never consider doing. I can understand a male competitive swimmer doing it for aerodynamic reasons.Shouldn't that be hydrodynamic?

[leekohler]

Probably because it's the only(?) area you shave daily. Stop shaving your face for a day or two, and it'll be much easier/more comfortable. Or conversely, try shaving everything else every single day, and see how quick 'n' easy it is then! :p

Ouch! I don't think you realize just how quickly my facial hair grows and how much is there. I don't get a 5 o'clock shadow, I get a 2 o'clock shadow. If I wait a day, it REALLY hurts to shave it then. The rest of my body hair doesn't grow nearly as fast, so there's no need for it to be a daily thing.

I don't doubt you're right, though.

[Much Ado]

Hair on arms and legs? Pfft. What about bum-fluff?

To lower the tone.

[leekohler]

Hair on arms and legs? Pfft. What about bum-fluff?

To lower the tone.

I would like to get that lasered. Shaving that area is definitely NOT a good time. And yes, I've done it.

[Peterkro]

I'm sure there's a easy psych doctorate for someone in this thread.

[robbieduncan]

I simply don't have time to shave everything below the neck. I mean I have hair on my toes for crying out loud. I do now have this funny image of guys with huge beards but no hair at all below the neckline :p

Oh, and you did evolve from monkeys, but only after they evolved from slime.

[c073186]

No.

[fimac]

I once read of a young woman who plucked her pubic hair (much in the same way as eyebrows).

I now do this -- occasionally, and purely for pleasure. It is slow but pain-free, and does not create stubble or rash.

Why men are attracted to shaved women is perhaps a topic for another thread. ;)

[whooleytoo]

Ouch! I don't think you realize just how quickly my facial hair grows and how much is there. I don't get a 5 o'clock shadow, I get a 2 o'clock shadow. If I wait a day, it REALLY hurts to shave it then. The rest of my body hair doesn't grow nearly as fast, so there's no need for it to be a daily thing.

I don't doubt you're right, though.

For me at least, when the stubble comes up it can be a bit tough to shave, but once it gets a tiny bit longer (perhaps, after 48 hours without shaving) it's easy to shave, and the skin isn't as sensitive - I'm guessing because it hasn't been dehydrated by dragging a blade across it the previous day.

[chris200x9]

^^ Landing Strip, eh?



I don't get why some guys like their women with no hair. It just strikes me as being a little... well, adolescent-looking. By all means, be hairy.

Be Hairy, Be Happy. Anyone know where I can have a bumper sticker printed?


http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/

go nuts!

[leekohler]

For me at least, when the stubble comes up it can be a bit tough to shave, but once it gets a tiny bit longer (perhaps, after 48 hours without shaving) it's easy to shave, and the skin isn't as sensitive - I'm guessing because it hasn't been dehydrated by dragging a blade across it the previous day.

Yeah, I know it works differently for everyone.

[Much Ado]

I would like to get that lasered. Shaving that area is definitely NOT a good time. And yes, I've done it.

Lasered? They can do that these days?

That would be great for conversation: "So yeah, there I was having laser-beams fired into my arse..." :D

[kabunaru]

If it's hygenic to shave your body, then presumably it's hygenic to shave your head too? And eyebrows?


I do not shave my head and eyebrows. I like my hair on the head and eyebrows.
I do not have an beard or anything like that.

After a day or two, are you not just coated in all over body stubble? :eek:

No, my body is used to this shaving so it is not stubble any more now.

[skunk]

I do not shave my head and eyebrows. I like my hair on the head and eyebrows.In other words, it has little to do with hygiene after all.

[kabunaru]

In other words, it has little to do with hygiene after all.
I do not like a shaved head.

[kabunaru]

I'm sure there's a easy psych doctorate for someone in this thread.

I do not care what you think of me if you think that way. Go post some where else if you do not like this thread.

[skunk]

I do not care what you think of me if you think that way. Go post some where else if you do not like this thread.You take a legitimate and mild tease very personally. If you start such a thread, I think you have to expect a little ribbing. It wasn't even aimed specifically at you. No need to get shirty.

[kabunaru]

You take a legitimate and mild tease very personally. If you start such a thread, I think you have to expect a little ribbing. It wasn't even aimed specifically at you.

Sorry, overreacted. Sometimes I get fussy.

[leekohler]

Lasered? They can do that these days?

That would be great for conversation: "So yeah, there I was having laser-beams fired into my arse..." :D

Yeah- they can do it anywhere you want- ANYWHERE. :) The price is very affordable too.

[ZiggyPastorius]

I've wanted to shave my leg hair for a very long time, as my legs are ridiculously hairy. My friend Joe does it, but I'm bad at shaving, and I don't want to cut myself. ._.

[kabunaru]

I've wanted to shave my leg hair for a very long time, as my legs are ridiculously hairy. My friend Joe does it, but I'm bad at shaving, and I don't want to cut myself. ._.

Trim with a trimmer and then a razor.
I'm doing that with my pubes.

[leekohler]

I've wanted to shave my leg hair for a very long time, as my legs are ridiculously hairy. My friend Joe does it, but I'm bad at shaving, and I don't want to cut myself. ._.

It's not that difficult, honestly. You'll be surprised at how easy it is.

[jpmittins]

Lasered? They can do that these days?

That would be great for conversation: "So yeah, there I was having laser-beams fired into my arse..." :D

Nice! I think that would be hilarious if a conversation started that way around me.

I do not shave my head and eyebrows. I like my hair on the head and eyebrows.
I do not have an beard or anything like that.



No, my body is used to this shaving so it is not stubble any more now.

I know it's sort of an old wives' tale, but don't you tend to make your hair grow back stronger if you keep shaving it? Also, isn't it just a bitch to constantly shave your entire body? Why not just wax/laser/put Nair on it?

This is madness ...

This...is...the...COMMUNITY DISCUSSION FORUM! *kicks you into a random hole that just happens to be there*

[leekohler]

I know it's sort of an old wives' tale, but don't you tend to make your hair grow back stronger if you keep shaving it? Also, isn't it just a bitch to constantly shave your entire body? Why not just wax/laser/put Nair on it?

OLD WIVE'S TALE. This is just not true.

[skunk]

OLD WIVE'S TALE. This is just not true.It is only true for old wives.

[.Andy]

I've wanted to shave my leg hair for a very long time, as my legs are ridiculously hairy. My friend Joe does it, but I'm bad at shaving, and I don't want to cut myself. ._.
Ask your friend job to help you out/do it for you. You never know where things might end up....

[jpmittins]

OLD WIVE'S TALE. This is just not true.

Like I said, I didn't think it was true, I just don't understand how the OP can stand to shave his whole body every few days. I don't have that kind of time/motivation; I would give up after a few minutes and just look really weird (kind of like Steve Carrell in The Forty Year Old Virgin after he got semi-waxed).

[MacNut]

I was thinking the same thing! Wouldn't this be awfully time consuming? Seems pretty obsessive to me as I find shaving my face to be bothersome. Wouldn't you have to do this several times a week for it to actually serve it's goal?Ya, it is enough of a pain in the ass to just shave my face. Why would I want to add more. Plus it gets cold here in the winter. I need all the hair I can get.Trim with a trimmer and then a razor.
I'm doing that with my pubes.I don't trust any moving parts near my moving parts. I tend to sneeze a lot.

[Z6128]

I'm 19 and I only shave my face, hate doing that as it is. I'm a really hairy guy and I'm covered in hair. I only shave or wax my back hair if I know I need to, but I never shave my chest, for anyone. I like it alot. I don't follow that whole thing where men need to be hairy because they are supposed to be masculine. If you don't like your body hair, go ahead and shave it, I happen to like mine. so there ;)

[leekohler]

I'm 19 and I only shave my face, hate doing that as it is. I'm a really hairy guy and I'm covered in hair. I only shave or wax my back hair if I know I need to, but I never shave my chest, for anyone. I like it alot. I don't follow that whole thing where men need to be hairy because they are supposed to be masculine. If you don't like your body hair, go ahead and shave it, I happen to like mine. so there ;)

Oh absolutely. I've always hated mine. Maybe it's because I hit puberty before all of the other guys at school. It sucked being the only kid who shaved in the 5th grade. :) Then it started sprouting everywhere and before I knew it, I looked like Austin Powers. :( It was always warm and itchy and I always felt like I couldn't keep myself clean. So- I got rid of it. If other people like theirs, great! I always hated it.

[mahashel]

...trimmed nether regions really roger my hammerstein.

Okay, I can NOT believe we've gone 5 pages and NOBODY commented on this. Funniest thing I've read all day!
My girlfriend works in theater, so I'm totally stealing this for use later this evening. I'll report my findings in the morning. :D

[Melrose]

^^ Didn't they do that show 'Pipe Dream'?

-

I can understand trimming, really. The bald look doesn't do anything for me personally, but I really can understand why some people trim, especially when it's in an area that jostles around and can 'abrade' with regular wear.

I figure I'll be bald soon enough as I age, I'll keep what I have for now and just make sure it's landscaped appropriately.

[iSaint]

I've offered, but she's fine as is.

[kabunaru]

No.

And just out of curiosity, how long does all that take?
8-10 minutes. I am used to it.

wow
why do some guys insist on looking like little boys?l

I look like a Roman statue not a little boy.

[viccles]

8-10 minutes. I am used to it.



I look like a Roman statue not a little boy.

I'm all for it. Especially if the guy is nice and muscular, it looks great. Wax/shave it all off, pits, legs, the works! :D

[kabunaru]

I'm all for it. Especially if the guy is nice and muscular, it looks great. Wax/shave it all off, pits, legs, the works! :D

Thank you, I am muscular. I work out a little bit. I'm toned. It would be weird if I wasn't muscular.

[MicBook]

If i do anything below the neck it is trimming the pubes (not that I have anyone to trim for :()but other than that everything is left alone

[pac-a-mac]

Only in the good ole US of A. I believe most of us Europeans still wish to look like men even those who bat for the other side. Sorry I dont get it. I will put it in the same box as marrying livestock, Gee-double-ya and cars that cannot turn corners.

[kabunaru]

I believe most of us Europeans still wish to look like men even those who bat for the other side.

I heard in Sicily that men shave there and it is actually fashionable there to do so.

[northy124]

I shave "Down there" (Includes the rear end BTW LoL) as it feels better after a run or something:D.

[pac-a-mac]

I heard in Sicily that men shave there and it is actually fashionable there to do so.

Apologies..I refer to civilised European countries rather than ones that run local elections at the point of sem-automatic weapons and call their families 'firms':D

[Much Ado]

I shave "Down there" (Includes the rear end BTW)

Get with the times, mate. You want laser beams these days :)

[northy124]

Get with the times, mate. You want laser beams these days :)

Laser beams:confused::o:(

[Yaris]

Alright anyone who has not seen this before should know that it's pretty gross. Anywho, it's a story of some guy who shaved the hair on his butt . Don't know if it's true or not but the detail is pretty hilarious. (bad language)
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/35274458.html

[wongulous]

I won't say I haven't tried shaving various body parts--and at one time there was some enjoyment to shaving the unmentionable regions--but now I leave all body hair alone and only trim the nether regions reasonably. (I only grow a very tiny tuft of blonde, soft hair on the small of my back and I leave that alone too. YES! BACK HAIR! Get over it. I've actually found some back hair to be very attractive on a guy before--but there is gross back hair too. It really just depends. Anyway, I might shave if the hair like on my chest was also on my back, but I guess I have lucky genes so far. Anyway, I digress. Point is, I don't shave.)

Hair is natural, and hairy is sexy.

I actually find a man unattractive if he has no chest hair (with the possible exception of a huge bodybuilder, but then again, he'd be hotter with hair), unappealing and non-sexual if he has no pubic hair (it's too close to emulation of a prepubescent state to me), and it's grotesque to see a man with no leg hair, underarm hair, or forearm hair (as in--wtf, why would you do that? about as attractive as someone with no eyebrows).

Body hair is a secondary sexual characteristic, and as masculinity and a sexualized state are attractive to me, it is therefore attractive. I don't mind people who shave their backs or shoulders or trim their pubes and keep everything in check if their genetics can cause undesired thickness of hair growth, but men who shave completely, to me, are feminizing their bodies. I don't get how this is desirable.

[northy124]

Alright anyone who has not seen this before should know that it's pretty gross. Anywho, it's a story of some guy who shaved the hair on his butt . Don't know if it's true or not but the detail is pretty hilarious. (bad language)
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/35274458.html

I have never had that problem but it was a hilarious read thanks:D.

[jpmittins]

Only in the good ole US of A. I believe most of us Europeans still wish to look like men even those who bat for the other side. Sorry I dont get it. I will put it in the same box as marrying livestock, Gee-double-ya and cars that cannot turn corners.

Okay. I don't know if you're being funny or not, but that is only a small portion of this country. Not everyone voted for Bush, I don't think that marrying livestock is that big a phenomena in this country, and I personally curse out anyone I see driving a Hummer. So you can see, America is not all bad, just bad in certain places.

Alright anyone who has not seen this before should know that it's pretty gross. Anywho, it's a story of some guy who shaved the hair on his butt . Don't know if it's true or not but the detail is pretty hilarious. (bad language)
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/35274458.html

That was hilarious, I just want to know how you managed to stumble across that one.

[madfresh]

No way. Shaving would be an absolute headache, and it's not like any women care if you're shaved or not.

[kabunaru]

but men who shave completely, to me, are feminizing their bodies.

That is not true. Why do you people have this idea stuck to your head? Screw society and the standards it set.

[MacNut]

That is not true. Why do you people have this idea stuck to your head? Screw society and the standards it set.I agree, all ladies should have facial hair.:p

[viccles]

I agree, all ladies should have facial hair.:p

Noooo way :D I shave/wax most parts of my body. Arms, pits, face, legs, down there

[leekohler]

That is not true. Why do you people have this idea stuck to your head? Screw society and the standards it set.

Exactly- it's my body. F*** other people if they don't like it. The fact of the matter is that there are always people out there who won't like you for something. If I like it, that's all that really matters. Will I date guys who are au naturel? Of course! It has nothing to do with what I want from someone else. It only has to do with me, and what I am comfortable with for my own body. It's just like I don't workout all the time because I want to date a body builder. I do it because it's how I like to look and it makes me feel good. I'm attracted to all kinds of body types. They all have their pluses and minuses.

[iJohnHenry]

They all have their pulses and minuses.

Fixed that for you. :p

(Hey, I'm having a good day. Sue me!!)

:D

[leekohler]

Fixed that for you. :p

(Hey, I'm having a good day. Sue me!!)

:D

You're horrible! :D Well, it IS true that there aren't a whole lot of guys I wouldn't at least consider doing. ;)

[iJohnHenry]

Methinks, if things continue as they are, I'm in for another "time-out". :o

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g158/MouseMeat/Smilies/MMafter03.gif *hick*

[leekohler]

Methinks, if things continue as they are, I'm in for another "time-out". :o

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g158/MouseMeat/Smilies/MMafter03.gif *hick*

Ha! Nah- I think you'll be OK.

[Beric]

Face and back of neck (below hairline) only.

[montanachad]

I shaved my balls today. My girlfriend does not lick my balls unless I shave:D

[gusious]

No way i'm going to shave under my neck.

[kabunaru]

No way i'm going to shave under my neck.

The Ancient Greeks did it. :p

[eXan]

The Ancient Greeks did it. :p

We're no Ancient Greek though..

[northy124]

I shaved my balls today. My girlfriend does not lick my balls unless I shave:D
Dude to much info.

The Ancient Greeks did it. :p
Did they?

[sushi]

Noooo way :D I shave/wax most parts of my body. Arms, pits, face, legs, down there
That sounds painful.

However, I am sure some of us appreciate it. :)

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g158/MouseMeat/Smilies/MMafter03.gif *hick*
Like the smiley face. Cheers! :)

I shaved my balls today. My girlfriend does not lick my balls unless I shave:D
Too much info.

[Martin C]

This is madness ...
Madness? THIS. IS. SPARTA!

[sushi]

Madness? THIS. IS. SPARTA!
No, it is madness. :p

[MowingDevil]

I shaved my balls today. My girlfriend does not lick my balls unless I shave:D

lmfao

[MowingDevil]

The Ancient Greeks did it. :p

They also used to diddle young boys. 'nuff said.

[Gray-Wolf]

I shaved my balls today. My girlfriend does not lick my balls unless I shave:D


TMI!!!! :eek:

[leekohler]

I shaved my balls today. My girlfriend does not lick my balls unless I shave:D

Thanks for sharing! That took, well...balls. :)

[carlgo]

Yikes! You might want to think about why you would think this is a good idea :eek: This is a reversible condition, but the next great idea you have might not be.

[sushi]

Thanks for sharing! That took, well...balls. :)
Clean ones at that. :p

[calculus]

Not everyone voted for Bush

Isn't this the whole purpose of this thread?

[gusious]

The Ancient Greeks did it. :p

No they didn't!!!!!:rolleyes:

[jpmittins]

Madness? THIS. IS. SPARTA!

I can't believe that that joke has been made only twice in this whole thread; once by me a few pages ago now once again.

Isn't this the whole purpose of this thread?

You know, when I wrote that, I was thinking that there was probably a whole stupid joke in there. I guess you found it.

[Melrose]

Madness? THIS. IS. SPARTA!

No, that's my left one. I'm not telling you what I call the right chap.

[wongulous]

That is not true. Why do you people have this idea stuck to your head? Screw society and the standards it set.

I said "to me," lack of body hair is feminizing, which implies that it was in my opinion. But that said, it is not just opinion; it is biology that body hair is a secondary-sex characteristic, meaning it is a secondary characteristic of your sex, and more directly, a result of male androgen production and reception. It is, most literally, a masculine trait. I'm not talking about opinions or society here! Men grow way more body hair than women on average, and while gender is actually a continuum, there are clear lines, such as when you have a 'y' chromosome. So please, do not mistake my words for some societally-brainwashed simp just because my natural, biologically-aware opinion happens to coincide with some closed-minded societal beliefs.

Exactly- it's my body. F*** other people if they don't like it. The fact of the matter is that there are always people out there who won't like you for something. If I like it, that's all that really matters. Will I date guys who are au naturel? Of course! It has nothing to do with what I want from someone else. It only has to do with me, and what I am comfortable with for my own body. It's just like I don't workout all the time because I want to date a body builder. I do it because it's how I like to look and it makes me feel good. I'm attracted to all kinds of body types. They all have their pluses and minuses.

I feel bad that you too have mistaken my intents. I see your posts around and I think you're a really great person and I'm glad that you post at MR. I even look up to you. But I do not tell people how to be. I was expressing my opinion.

I used to have facial piercings, a mohawk, dye my hair unemployable colors, wear makeup (and I don't just mean emo eyeliner, I was a makeup artist), theatrical contact lenses, wear crazy mashed-up reconstructed clothes, and as I said I've even shaved almost every part of my body (save eyebrows/eyelashes! that would be awful). So I am no stranger to bucking the norm for appearance. But my experiences have shown me that every appearance can cause a reaction: I had friends who, because of my appearance, did not think they were attractive/cool/punk/alt/beautiful/daring/whatever enough. So just being myself was enough to tell other people "I don't like you" or "I'm better than you," when that was never even my intent. Just as with this: I'm only doing what I want, and stating my own opinions. Such is the discourse of a forum.

Anyway, I never meant to disrespect anyone else's choices. I just wanted to bring to the table that there are some of us who love body hair and think it's great. I wouldn't dream of the choice to shave, let alone the investment of work or some of the downsides (bumps, rash, ingrown hairs, stubble, time, cost--and yes, I know there are ways to eliminate or defeat these issues, as I said I have been there and done that). I have been with guys of all body shapes and types and I can say that I would prefer a guy who left at least some body hair, but that could all be swayed by the guy and his preferences and his style and his reasons for being himself and doing what he does. To each his own.

[leekohler]

I said "to me," lack of body hair is feminizing, which implies that it was in my opinion. But that said, it is not just opinion; it is biology that body hair is a secondary-sex characteristic, meaning it is a secondary characteristic of your sex, and more directly, a result of male androgen production and reception. It is, most literally, a masculine trait. I'm not talking about opinions or society here! Men grow way more body hair than women on average, and while gender is actually a continuum, there are clear lines, such as when you have a 'y' chromosome. So please, do not mistake my words for some societally-brainwashed simp just because my natural, biologically-aware opinion happens to coincide with some closed-minded societal beliefs.



I feel bad that you too have mistaken my intents. I see your posts around and I think you're a really great person and I'm glad that you post at MR. I even look up to you. But I do not tell people how to be. I was expressing my opinion.

I used to have facial piercings, a mohawk, dye my hair unemployable colors, wear makeup (and I don't just mean emo eyeliner, I was a makeup artist), theatrical contact lenses, wear crazy mashed-up reconstructed clothes, and as I said I've even shaved almost every part of my body (save eyebrows/eyelashes! that would be awful). So I am no stranger to bucking the norm for appearance. But my experiences have shown me that every appearance can cause a reaction: I had friends who, because of my appearance, did not think they were attractive/cool/punk/alt/beautiful/daring/whatever enough. So just being myself was enough to tell other people "I don't like you" or "I'm better than you," when that was never even my intent. Just as with this: I'm only doing what I want, and stating my own opinions. Such is the discourse of a forum.

Anyway, I never meant to disrespect anyone else's choices. I just wanted to bring to the table that there are some of us who love body hair and think it's great. I wouldn't dream of the choice to shave, let alone the investment of work or some of the downsides (bumps, rash, ingrown hairs, stubble, time, cost--and yes, I know there are ways to eliminate or defeat these issues, as I said I have been there and done that). I have been with guys of all body shapes and types and I can say that I would prefer a guy who left at least some body hair, but that could all be swayed by the guy and his preferences and his style and his reasons for being himself and doing what he does. To each his own.

Aww...now I feel like an a**. ;) Thanks, that was very nice.

[Counterfit]

(save eyebrows/eyelashes! that would be awful).
How would you even go about shaving your eyelashes? :eek:
Aww...now I feel like an a**. ;)

Hairy or shaven? :p

[iJohnHenry]

Aww...now I feel like an a**. ;) Thanks, that was very nice.

Excuse me, coming through!!! :p

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g158/MouseMeat/jlu_asshat.jpg

[kabunaru]

To each his own.

And I feel more comfortable with a shaven body than un-shaven body.

[Big-TDI-Guy]

They also used to diddle young boys. 'nuff said.

I almost pooped my chair upon reading that gem. Thanks! (puts pants on)

[jpmittins]

Excuse me, coming through!!! :p

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g158/MouseMeat/jlu_asshat.jpg

Ahh, the Buddy Christ! If only he had gained the popularity that had been planned for him, I think Christianity would be a lot more fun (and yes, I know the Buddy Christ is from "Dogma" and isn't real).

[leekohler]

Hairy or shaven? :p

As I stated before in this thread, I do not shave the rump- far too difficult.

[gusious]

As I stated before in this thread, I do not shave the rump- far too difficult.

You can always use a little bit of help from your girlfriend!!:D

[Bern]

I agree, all ladies should have facial hair.:p

I guess that's why they call it menopause and not womanopause ;)

But so far as guys clearing all their body hair, if they like to do so than what right does anyone have to propose it's wrong? Asian men have little or no body hair does that mean they're less men than anglo men? Of course not. I say if you don't want to save it then shave it. :D

[leekohler]

You can always use a little bit of help from your girlfriend!!:D

That would be "boyfriend", and i don't have one right now. ;)

[gusious]

That would be "boyfriend", and i don't have one right now. ;)

You can always find one!;)

[leekohler]

You can always find one!;)

True enough- but I'm kind of taking a break from relationships for a while.

[gusious]

So... I guess you're going to be all hairy...!!!

[wongulous]

So... I guess you're going to be all hairy...!!!

Haha. I actually find that it's much more tempting to "let one's self go" when you're taken! I mean, you've got them in the bag already, so.. who needs a gym membership? Or manscaping? Or doing the dishes? ;)

Just kidding. Well, sort of..

[kabunaru]

So... I guess you're going to be all hairy...!!!

To me hair seems gross now since I started shaving. I do not know why should men keep their hair below the neck any more. Shave it all off guys. You will not regret it.

[gusious]

To me hair seems gross now since I started shaving. I do not know why should men keep their hair below the neck any more. Shave it all off guys. You will not regret it.

Maybe we will sometime in the future because when we start shaving we will have to shave "every" day or else we are going to be worse than before....!:eek:

[skunk]

To me hair seems gross now since I started shaving. I do not know why should men keep their hair below the neck any more. Shave it all off guys. You will not regret it.Yours may be "gross", I wouldn't know. I do wish you would stop telling everyone how to spell and how to groom themselves. What's next?

[kabunaru]

to shave "every" day or else we are going to be worse than before....!:eek:
It is a myth that hair will grow back thicker.

Would you even ever consider shaving your private area, legs, arms, chest and under-arms?

[Ugg]

I always shaved my arms and legs when I went on long bicycle rides. Even though my hair is thin, the wind would make it itch like crazy. Now that I'm older and don't go as fast, it's not so much of a problem!

I trim down below only during the summer and only once.

What bothers me the most is the tufts of hair growing out of my ears!

[kabunaru]

What's next?

Are you starting to dislike me Skunk?
If so, I am sorry.
I am just like this. It is the person I am.

[Melrose]

Are you starting to dislike me Skunk?
If so, I am sorry.
I am just like this. It is the person I am.

Hairless, at that.

I tried the whole 'shaven' look for a short while, and didn't get used to it and didn't like it. There. I'm not trying it again. I figger the hair is growing there for a reason; I'll trim if I'm desperate, but nothing else.

I am glad I don't have a hairy back, though. That, for some reason, grosses me out even more than women with hair in their armpits. Actually, I take that back: Women with bushy hair in their armpits. A little bit is acceptable.

[skunk]

Are you starting to dislike me Skunk?I'm just not very keen to be proselytised. Or proselytized, for that matter.

[kabunaru]

I'm just not very keen to be proselytised. Or proselytized, for that matter.

I will try to not proselytise any one else now.

Good point Skunk.

You are a great guy and are a very interesting person.

[iJohnHenry]

You are a great guy ....

Prey tell, how you deduced this?? (Although it may be true. :p)

... and are a very interesting person.

Now that is a statement that I can support. :D

And I find that hair on most of my body, and particularly around various "portals", comes in handy to warn of invaders trying to misuse me.

[Melrose]

and particularly around various "portals", comes in handy to warn of invaders trying to misuse me.

LOL. Made me chuckle. Never thought them as a gateway between worlds, exactly... but, technically, you are correct.

[kabunaru]

And I find that hair on most of my body, and particularly around various "portals", comes in handy to warn of invaders trying to misuse me.

Are you a talking rat or a person?
I would like to believe the first. :D

[whooleytoo]

Not everyone voted for Bush

True. Only 'Merkins down the Deep South.. :p

[gusious]

It is a myth that hair will grow back thicker.

Would you even ever consider shaving your private area, legs, arms, chest and under-arms?

No way dude. Not gonna happen. Not in a million years!! And i didn't say "never"!

I don't wanna be something like a gay supermodel. It's ok people taking care of themselves but not turn into a woman! Next thing what? Lip gloss? To make better lips? Or make up to cover the scratches?

[kabunaru]

of themselves but not turn into a woman!

Shaving does not turn you into woman. In fact, I feel more like a Pharaoh or an Roman Emperor with a shaved body than an un-shaved body.

And I do not put any gloss after shaving. I just put a moisturiser after shaving because the skin is dry after the shave.

[James17]

No way dude. Not gonna happen. Not in a million years!! And i didn't say "never"!

I don't wanna be something like a gay supermodel. It's ok people taking care of themselves but not turn into a woman! Next thing what? Lip gloss? To make better lips? Or make up to cover the scratches?

Hillarious :D

[Melrose]

Lip gloss? To make better lips? Or make up to cover the scratches?
I do not put any gloss after shaving. I just put a moisturiser after shaving because the skin is dry after the shave.
=
Hillarious :D

[kabunaru]

=

There is nothing wrong with putting a moisturiser on the body after shaving.

[gusious]

Of course not! Every night my girlfriend goes to sleep and put all those cremes in her face, sometimes i put some too!!!

[wongulous]

I really think the pro-hair camps should be split between "appreciating hair" and "being afraid of shaving because it's what a woman would do," because so many comments in this thread are about OMG DO YOU WEAR PANTHOSE TOO!??? AND LIPGLOSS??!! etc.

This last page is more than a little embarrassing to my gender.

There's nothing wrong with skin care. Everybody can use hygiene, like washing their face, moisturizing their skin, etc. But this is about the aesthetics and other benefits, as well as the downsides and other opinions, about men who have shaven bodies.

[Aranince]

I really think the pro-hair camps should be split between "appreciating hair" and "being afraid of shaving because it's what a woman would do," because so many comments in this thread are about OMG DO YOU WEAR PANTHOSE TOO!??? AND LIPGLOSS??!! etc.

This last page is more than a little embarrassing to my gender.

There's nothing wrong with skin care. Everybody can use hygiene, like washing their face, moisturizing their skin, etc. But this is about the aesthetics and other benefits, as well as the downsides and other opinions, about men who have shaven bodies.

2x

[Melrose]

There is nothing wrong with putting a moisturiser on the body after shaving.

I think he was talking about lip gloss...

[gusious]

And I do not put any gloss after shaving. I just put a moisturiser after shaving because the skin is dry after the shave.

I think he was talking about lip gloss...

Melrose for you. That's how it came up.

[gusious]

I really think the pro-hair camps should be split between "appreciating hair" and "being afraid of shaving because it's what a woman would do," because so many comments in this thread are about OMG DO YOU WEAR PANTHOSE TOO!??? AND LIPGLOSS??!! etc.

This last page is more than a little embarrassing to my gender.

There's nothing wrong with skin care. Everybody can use hygiene, like washing their face, moisturizing their skin, etc. But this is about the aesthetics and other benefits, as well as the downsides and other opinions, about men who have shaven bodies.

Dude, i'm not trying to offend anyone but shave every single hair on my body? I mean this is ridiculous... I mean why do we have hair if we don't actually need them? We had tale but it was useless. What happened? We got rid of it.

[wongulous]

The lines between chapstick, lip balm, lip remedy, lip protectant, lip oil, lip gloss.. they're blurred. Now, hot pink, sparkly, shiny-looking lip gloss is definitely lip gloss, but I have a few non-gender-specific or even male-marketed lip products that are either too glossy for some or even too gloss-like for me. Then, I'm sure in hollywood, men straight out use MAC makeup clear lip gloss, because if you don't glob it on, it can look entirely natural.

Just to show how stupid mincing words about lip gloss is.

Back to body hair...

[leekohler]

Haha. I actually find that it's much more tempting to "let one's self go" when you're taken! I mean, you've got them in the bag already, so.. who needs a gym membership? Or manscaping? Or doing the dishes? ;)

Just kidding. Well, sort of..

I've always found this rather unfortunate. If the only reason one takes care of oneself is to acquire a mate, then you're doing it for the wrong reasons. But then I guess it explains why a lot of married couples I know seem to gain about 200 pounds between them after they tie the knot.

I really think the pro-hair camps should be split between "appreciating hair" and "being afraid of shaving because it's what a woman would do," because so many comments in this thread are about OMG DO YOU WEAR PANTHOSE TOO!??? AND LIPGLOSS??!! etc.

This last page is more than a little embarrassing to my gender.

There's nothing wrong with skin care. Everybody can use hygiene, like washing their face, moisturizing their skin, etc. But this is about the aesthetics and other benefits, as well as the downsides and other opinions, about men who have shaven bodies.

Why was the last page embarrassing to your gender? I have to ask you- what is it that you think makes a man? Hair? You know- there are lot of guys who naturally don't have much body hair out there- what is your opinion of them?

[wongulous]

Dude, i'm not trying to offend anyone but shave every single hair on my body? I mean this is ridiculous... I mean why do we have hair if we don't actually need them? We had tale but it was useless. What happened? We got rid of it.

I posted a page or two back that I don't shave any part of my body, but I trim my full beard and keep the pubic area in check. I argued with a few people about how (completely) shaving hair off of the male body is feminizing, as male body hair is a secondary-sex characteristic caused by male androgens. Some people tried to tell me I was "buying into society's thoughts," but I defended my stance which is based purely on (a) biology and (b) my personal opinions.

I think guys look best with anywhere from short, shaven body hair (so it lays flat) to full natural body hair. Obviously some people have thicker, more prominent, darker, coarser, curlier, or unfortunately-placed body hair, so different approaches are best for different people. I will say that when I see a guy who has shaven his chest and armpits, it's a little sad to me, but it's sometimes made up for by the fact that he has nice muscles or a good tan. Now, if I see a guy with shaved legs or shaved forearms, I am actually like "wtf, why?" unless he has an absolute swimmer's build and is clearly a swimmer, as that is the only reason I could see someone doing that... but even then, completely unattractive to me and most female friends that I have.

[gusious]

I posted a page or two back that I don't shave any part of my body, but I trim my full beard and keep the pubic area in check.

The thread is kinda big it read it all. Actually i didn't read any....! So.....

[wongulous]

I've always found this rather unfortunate. If the only reason one takes care of oneself is to acquire a mate, then you're doing it for the wrong reasons. But then I guess it explains why a lot of married couples I know seem to gain about 200 pounds between them after they tie the knot.

I was being farcical, slightly. I'll say that I used to be morbidly obese, and then I began to understand how it affected my health, my body image, my self-confidence, the way that I relate to others in turn, etc... then I started to eat right and go to the gym to do something. I had no idea what I was doing, but I had fun with my workout partner. Soon, I started to learn about how our anatomy works, how the body responds to exercise, how the food pyramid is completely wrong, etc... and then I started to care about having clothes that fit once I realized my body had changed, clothes that expressed me, making my hair look the best I could, investing in things that complemented, enhanced, or augmented my appearance. Inevitably, I had a phase where my obsession was appearance and perfection was everything, and my only basis for self-worth was comparative and appearance-based. It wasn't long until I saw the detriment and reevaluated my values, realizing that there are more important pursuits and reasons to be your best in life. It was liberating. Once I finally let go of some of those kneejerk ideas and accepted myself, it was funny how quickly I began to enjoy my life for what it was and could be. Some time after that, I met my boyfriend of over three years now, and that has also helped me to realize that I was sometimes doing the right things for the wrong reasons. I also realized that sometimes I went to lengths to get attention or be noticed, or even sometimes to not be noticed, that were hurtful and required time and resources that were completely not worth it, and in the end only achieved the opposite. Being in a relationship has helped me realize who I am and who I want to be, because being single and unsure of myself was just an extension of never being accepted when I was fat and ugly.

Anyway, long story short, I still take care of myself, but I'm not putting off other, more important things for it. And I'm not sulking and not going out to do something fun because I can't see my abs this week or because I have to make sure I don't have a single visible body hair or spending 20 minutes on my hair with tons of expensive products to get everything just so. Not that there's anything wrong with that--and I do have a few hair products some would call expensive, but they're my splurges because they make *me* feel good, not because I feel I need them.

Why was the last page embarrassing to your gender? I have to ask you- what is it that you think makes a man? Hair? You know- there are lot of guys who naturally don't have much body hair out there- what is your opinion of them?

The last page was full of stuff like "what, do you wear lip gloss too?" and "what next, makeup? because that's totally girly! and unacceptable!" and "gay circus performers!" and stuff like that. Even though it was mostly humor, it was just totally about gender roles and rules and how they dominate our perception and change our behavior based on fear.

You took it a completely different way than intended. I think if you have a Y chromosome, choose to express yourself as a man, and/or feel that you are a man, then you are a man. Not that it matters to anyone but you. As far as how you express that you are a man, I think every individual is free to do what he wishes, and that is great! I'm sure people don't find me attractive, hair and all, and that is perfectly cool with me! They can still be my friend.

I am not like that at all about "if you don't have hair, you're not a man!" and I just want to make that clear.

[spork183]

And I feel more comfortable with a shaven body than un-shaven body.

You know, shaving is just to much work. What with the hyperbaric chamber and the colon cleansing, I simply haven't got the time...

[leekohler]

I was being farcical, slightly. I'll say that I used to be morbidly obese, and then I began to understand how it affected my health, my body image, my self-confidence, the way that I relate to others in turn, etc... then I started to eat right and go to the gym to do something. I had no idea what I was doing, but I had fun with my workout partner. Soon, I started to learn about how our anatomy works, how the body responds to exercise, how the food pyramid is completely wrong, etc... and then I started to care about having clothes that fit once I realized my body had changed, clothes that expressed me, making my hair look the best I could, investing in things that complemented, enhanced, or augmented my appearance. Inevitably, I had a phase where my obsession was appearance and perfection was everything, and my only basis for self-worth was comparative and appearance-based. It wasn't long until I saw the detriment and reevaluated my values, realizing that there are more important pursuits and reasons to be your best in life. It was liberating. Once I finally let go of some of those kneejerk ideas and accepted myself, it was funny how quickly I began to enjoy my life for what it was and could be. Some time after that, I met my boyfriend of over three years now, and that has also helped me to realize that I was sometimes doing the right things for the wrong reasons. I also realized that sometimes I went to lengths to get attention or be noticed, or even sometimes to not be noticed, that were hurtful and required time and resources that were completely not worth it, and in the end only achieved the opposite. Being in a relationship has helped me realize who I am and who I want to be, because being single and unsure of myself was just an extension of never being accepted when I was fat and ugly.

Anyway, long story short, I still take care of myself, but I'm not putting off other, more important things for it. And I'm not sulking and not going out to do something fun because I can't see my abs this week or because I have to make sure I don't have a single visible body hair or spending 20 minutes on my hair with tons of expensive products to get everything just so. Not that there's anything wrong with that--and I do have a few hair products some would call expensive, but they're my splurges because they make *me* feel good, not because I feel I need them.

Good for you! :) It sounds like you found a good balance, where you were at extremes before.



The last page was full of stuff like "what, do you wear lip gloss too?" and "what next, makeup? because that's totally girly! and unacceptable!" and "gay circus performers!" and stuff like that. Even though it was mostly humor, it was just totally about gender roles and rules and how they dominate our perception and change our behavior based on fear.

You took it a completely different way than intended. I think if you have a Y chromosome, choose to express yourself as a man, and/or feel that you are a man, then you are a man. Not that it matters to anyone but you. As far as how you express that you are a man, I think every individual is free to do what he wishes, and that is great! I'm sure people don't find me attractive, hair and all, and that is perfectly cool with me! They can still be my friend.

I am not like that at all about "if you don't have hair, you're not a man!" and I just want to make that clear.

So what are you? Grizzly Adams? ;)

[gusious]

The last page was full of stuff like "what, do you wear lip gloss too?" and "what next, makeup? because that's totally girly! and unacceptable!" and "gay circus performers!" and stuff like that. Even though it was mostly humor, it was just totally about gender roles and rules and how they dominate our perception and change our behavior based on fear.
.

It WAS humor and i wasn't referring to you specifically. With the whole thread-idea. I mean you are in a middle of a war, then what? Are you actually going to care about hair? Ok i know it's not the perfect example but i don't believe shaving every hair on your (not your!) body is right. And i'm referring for "normal" guys, having hair not having a decease or something and not having hair.

For me trimming is ok although i don't do it. It's like the line. Shaving everything for me is passing the line a lot!

[wongulous]

Good for you! :) It sounds like you found a good balance, where you were at extremes before.

So what are you? Grizzly Adams? ;)

Haha. I try. Some weeks, it's more important to get to class and make dinner and have time to myself to get things DONE than it is to get in a full workout or have pressed shirts or get my hairs cut, so I end up greasy-haired and wearing my hoodie and some jeans. It's nice to be able to relax about it all. But it's also a mentality of acceptance. My body is hairy, and I have come to a point where I find it attractive in others and myself. I think it's great that there is another viewpoint other than body hair being vile and worthy of removal at all costs; as I said I think I had a complex about it before. Thank you for the validation... I hope that others can learn to accept themselves more from my words.

And I'm not THAT hairy. My partner is a little more hairy, but not to the point where there is that line between the chest and shoulders. He does experience chest hair going really high on his chest, where it begins to connect with the straggling beard hairs, which has always been sort of cute/amusing to me. He doesn't have "the neck line" that some guys do, because he lets it poke out of his collar (sexy, to me), but he does keep his beard extremely well-groomed so no one would know it.

There is a level of carpeted-ness that begins to be extreme to me, and I have seen it both in person and in.. ahem, adult movies. When it gets to be more of a flokati rug than a furry chest, that's when I'm sort of left speechless. But you know what, some people like that too, and good for them!

I have noticed you shave your head. I tried it for the first time last year, after my hair cuts getting gradually shorter and shorter, and eventually being curious as to what it felt/looked like. My hairline is receding, though no bald spot or thinning yet. According to others, I apparently have a great head for shaving... but man, I should have read more on the internet about how to not go over the same spot too many times. Ouchy! But I did like it... it's just easier to keep my hair at a 2- or 3-guard (well, 3 guard, 2 on the sides usually). I've been told it's easier with a head-shaving apparatus, though. Also funny, since my hair has been shorter the past couple of years, I am finding guys with shaved heads (Beckham, Vin Diesel, etc) a lot more attractive... :)

[bobr1952]

Way too much work for me--if it wasn't for Norelco, I'm sure I'd have a beard too.

[Big-TDI-Guy]

I stopped shaving when my Norelco died! (just 2 months ago)
:o

[whooleytoo]

I stopped shaving when my Norelco died! (just 2 months ago)
:o

Am I the only one who has no idea what a "norelco" is, and is afraid to google it?

[northy124]

Am I the only one who has no idea what a "norelco" is, and is afraid to google it?

A Philips Razor I think.

[maestro55]

I have shaved "down there" before but I don't do it very often.

[kabunaru]

We had tale but it was useless. What happened? We got rid of it.

So, some day humans will evolve to having to no hair at all except maybe on the head. Hair below the neck is not needed in my opinion.

[Mike Teezie]

Only shaved down there once, when the girl I was dating at the time asked if she could do it for me. She assured me she had no complaints of the, ah, situation, but just wanted to see what it would be like.

I agreed after a little coaxing, and it wasn't so bad. Nothing I'm ever going to do though. She didn't prefer it either way, so she said.

Now I just keep it trimmed, but that's it.

Shaving arms, legs, under arms, is not going to happen.

[leekohler]

Haha. I try. Some weeks, it's more important to get to class and make dinner and have time to myself to get things DONE than it is to get in a full workout or have pressed shirts or get my hairs cut, so I end up greasy-haired and wearing my hoodie and some jeans. It's nice to be able to relax about it all. But it's also a mentality of acceptance. My body is hairy, and I have come to a point where I find it attractive in others and myself. I think it's great that there is another viewpoint other than body hair being vile and worthy of removal at all costs; as I said I think I had a complex about it before. Thank you for the validation... I hope that others can learn to accept themselves more from my words.

And I'm not THAT hairy. My partner is a little more hairy, but not to the point where there is that line between the chest and shoulders. He does experience chest hair going really high on his chest, where it begins to connect with the straggling beard hairs, which has always been sort of cute/amusing to me. He doesn't have "the neck line" that some guys do, because he lets it poke out of his collar (sexy, to me), but he does keep his beard extremely well-groomed so no one would know it.

There is a level of carpeted-ness that begins to be extreme to me, and I have seen it both in person and in.. ahem, adult movies. When it gets to be more of a flokati rug than a furry chest, that's when I'm sort of left speechless. But you know what, some people like that too, and good for them!

I have noticed you shave your head. I tried it for the first time last year, after my hair cuts getting gradually shorter and shorter, and eventually being curious as to what it felt/looked like. My hairline is receding, though no bald spot or thinning yet. According to others, I apparently have a great head for shaving... but man, I should have read more on the internet about how to not go over the same spot too many times. Ouchy! But I did like it... it's just easier to keep my hair at a 2- or 3-guard (well, 3 guard, 2 on the sides usually). I've been told it's easier with a head-shaving apparatus, though. Also funny, since my hair has been shorter the past couple of years, I am finding guys with shaved heads (Beckham, Vin Diesel, etc) a lot more attractive... :)

I do- I've shaved my head for about 15 years. I like it a lot. And yes, as mentioned before, my chest resembled Austin Powers', it itched a lot and was hard to keep clean. I got rid of it, and believe me, it's never coming back. I feel so much better now.

[kabunaru]

Now, if I see a guy with shaved legs or shaved forearms, I am actually like "wtf, why?" unless he has an absolute swimmer's build and is clearly a swimmer, as that is the only reason I could see someone doing that... but even then, completely unattractive to me and most female friends that I have.

See, people are still not used to the shaved male look. People are afraid of something different.
Again, screw the society and media that keeps telling us what is "right" and what is "wrong". It brain-washes people.

[leekohler]

See, people are still not used to the shaved male look. People are afraid of something different.
Again, screw the society and media that keeps telling us what is "right" and what is "wrong". It brain-washes people.

Again, I'm not worried about it. I've done it for years, and it's no big deal to me.

[gusious]

So, some day humans will evolve to having to no hair at all except maybe on the head. Hair below the neck is not needed in my opinion.

That's your opinion. Hair can store sweat. Sweat is a premature sign of recognition so as women can choose their partners!;)

[Melrose]

See, people are still not used to the shaved male look. People are afraid of something different.
Again, screw the society and media that keeps telling us what is "right" and what is "wrong". It brain-washes people.

No, I don't shave because it's not worth my time to do so. What people think of a part of my body they never see 99% of the time doesn't bother me - it doesn't mean I'm brain washed it simply means I don't want to shave. To be honest, whether or not a woman shaved (granted, no mustache. I draw the line there) would not have a bearing of whether I liked her or not - if things got intimate and I discovered she didn't shave from the neck down, I wouldn't just up and leave... it really just doesn't matter. I've known girls that are rather werewolvian but were sweet, decent people that I got along with well and in some cases was attracted to. It's personal choice, really, not society brainwashing people.

[kabunaru]

No, I don't shave because it's not worth my time to do so. What people think of a part of my body they never see 99% of the time doesn't bother me - it doesn't mean I'm brain washed it simply means I don't want to shave. To be honest, whether or not a woman shaved (granted, no mustache. I draw the line there) would not have a bearing of whether I liked her or not - if things got intimate and I discovered she didn't shave from the neck down, I wouldn't just up and leave... it really just doesn't matter. I've known girls that are rather werewolvian but were sweet, decent people that I got along with well and in some cases was attracted to. It's personal choice, really, not society brainwashing people.

What I mean by brain-washed is that people are brain-washed to think that men who shave their bodies are strange or are not straight.

I do not judge people on if they shave or not.

[Melrose]

I see.

I'd tend to lean towards thinking something was up with a guy who shaved his legs - shaving the Man Goodies and the chest is actually fairly common place these days - but when they go nuts with the razor it would sway a decision, but wouldn't necessarily make me think one way or another.

But yeah - we agree it would be silly to judge someone solely based on whither or not one shaves which part of his body.

[Aranince]

Again, screw the society and media that keeps telling us what is "right" and what is "wrong". It brain-washes people.

If only that were possible.

[kabunaru]

If only that were possible.

Maybe in the year 2108 we will live in a society where women or men do not care if other men shave or not, we will in a society where people do not judge other people so shallowy (looks, if shave or not, etc), we will live in a society where people are more independent-thinkers and are actually are not afraid people of different ethnicity, culture and if they shave or not or whatever else they do, etc.

[jpmittins]

Am I the only one who has no idea what a "norelco" is, and is afraid to google it?

A Norelco is an electric razor, I believe.

[Big-TDI-Guy]

A very nice electric razor. I got 12 hard years out of mine (didn't just shave my beard) - without ever needing a new blade or anything. It did fine until I dropped it on a hard surface.

I miss it.

[MowingDevil]

What I mean by brain-washed is that people are brain-washed to think that men who shave their bodies are strange or are not straight.

I do not judge people on if they shave or not.

Media tends to judge people more for being hairy these days than shaving imo. Grooming is one thing, but there is something psychologically wrong w/ a society that insists that natural is not attractive and must be cosmetically altered to meet the standards of "beauty."

[wongulous]

See, people are still not used to the shaved male look. People are afraid of something different.
Again, screw the society and media that keeps telling us what is "right" and what is "wrong". It brain-washes people.

Oh my gosh. Do you even listen to what I write here? I am completely used to the shaven male look. I am not afraid of something different. I don't base my opinions off of any societal norm. I've explained myself over the past two pages why I say what I say and you have just misinterpreted my words again.

Maybe I should argue the point that it is quite en vogue and some would say the standard de facto to have a hairless and shaven body, like our standard ideals of beauty imposed by society and the media. I see VERY few hairy chests on TV, in movies, on magazine covers, on product packaging, on fashion runways, in physique competitions, in sports, in music videos, etc. Who is brainwashed? Shave the icky hair off of you, or you'll be disgusting and look like a heathen! Shave it, and you will become a pristinely manicured greek God statue! :rolleyes: ;) Two can play that game.

[biker74]

When I can be arsed I do, not legs or arms though, there ok.

[d_and_n5000]

I actually like the shaved leg look and wish I had it, but I'm too damn lazy to bother actually doing something to get rid of it. Takes too much time to maintain and I'm lucky enough to be able to keep it and be socially acceptable, so why bother?

[leekohler]

No, I don't shave because it's not worth my time to do so. What people think of a part of my body they never see 99% of the time doesn't bother me.

Ah! Maybe that's it! Mine gets seen quite a bit. I'm a part-time actor in small independent films. I recently found out after the fact that a producer had a shirtless scene written for me on purpose. He's a friend and did it mainly as a joke to see if I'd realize he did it, but still. :) I didn't catch it til the screening when I saw him smirk during the scene. I was like, DAMN! You bastard! :D He and his BF laughed.

So yeah, maybe I am a bit more concerned about my appearance than most.

[Melrose]

^^ "Small, indepedent films" he says. What are they rated?


Shave it, and you will become a pristinely manicured greek God statue! :rolleyes: ;) Two can play that game.

Greek Gods didn't have man-boobs. Do they go away after a shave?

[arkitect]

Greek Gods didn't have man-boobs. Do they go away after a shave?

I think you'd need a very close shave.


On the other hand if you have a very hairy chest you could perhaps shave the sides and sort of sculpt the hair in the middle to hide the boobs?
;)

[kabunaru]

Shave it, and you will become a pristinely manicured greek God statue! :rolleyes: ;) Two can play that game.

I can be mistaken for an Roman Emperor now if I had the proper clothes.

By the way, I am 6 feet tall and weigh 160 lbs.

[Azmordean]

I trim "down there" to keep it neat but otherwise only shave my face. That being said, I'm not super hairy or anything. I don't really care if people shave or not. Shaved arms and legs used to look odd to me but since I got into weight lifting, cycling, and swimming, I'm pretty used to it. Personal choice, whether you do it for sport or just think it looks hot :).

[kabunaru]

Personal choice, whether you do it for sport or just think it looks hot :).

Both of those choices for me. :)
Also, people do not notice that you are shaved even if you are wearing a shirt and shorts. It is not that noticeable especially if you have olive-bronze (which I have) or darker skin tone.

[iJohnHenry]

On the other hand if you have a very hairy chest you could perhaps shave the sides and sort of sculpt the hair in the middle to hide the boobs? ;)

Two words.

Comb-over. :p

[jpmittins]

Two words.

Comb-over. :p

Nice.

[Abercrombieboy]

I trim a little down there when it needs it but that's it. I'm not afraid of some body hair in fact I'd feel a little silly with it all shaved off.

[wongulous]

Stupid thread. I blame you for me getting the wild hair (so to speak) to shave some body parts this morning.

It's itchy already!!! :angry: ;)

[kabunaru]

Stupid thread. I blame you for me getting the wild hair (so to speak) to shave some body parts this morning.

It's itchy already!!! :angry: ;)

Serious post or British humour post? :confused:

[glocke12]

Other std grooming practices (facial, neck, privtates), I dont shave. Personally, I find total body hair shaving by mails kind of strange, but will accept that doing so may make some sports (like swimming) easier....

[Melrose]

Serious post or British humour post? :confused:

That would be humorous methinks.

[wongulous]

Serious post or British humour post? :confused:
Well, it is humorous, but also serious. I shaved some nether regions. Hadn't done that in a while.

But my hairy legs, chest, underarms, forearms, head, and beard are all intact, so all is not lost. ;)

[kabunaru]

But my hairy legs, chest, underarms, forearms, head, and beard are all intact, so all is not lost. ;)

Maybe there will be a "separation" of the human species:
Those who have hair: Homo Sapiens Sapiens
Those who do not have hair: Homo Haud Saeta Sapiens Sapiens