Higher Quality MacBook Pro Case Photos

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MacX.cn has posted (http://www.macx.cn/a/a4000I695495.htm) a series of higher quality images of the new MacBook Pro case that was originally posted (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/08/macbook-pro-brick-casing-photo/) last week. While there had been some doubts about the details of the blurry photo, these new images show every angle of both the MacBook and MacBook Pro cases.


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MacBook Pro case


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MacBook case
Additional photos depict the left, right, and underside of the cases. A few observations

- The optical drive appears to be on the right side (when facing the laptop)
- All the ports are on the left side (when facing the laptop)
- Case does not appear to be tapered like the MacBook Air
- Power button is in the top right corner
- Large trackpad



Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/12/higher-quality-macbook-pro-case-photos/)

[arn]

Ports are labeled in one photos:

[richard.mac]

yay more spy pics! and good quality ones too. now the question is… white or black chicklet keys for the MacBook? if it has black keys well know it has backlighting too.

[LinMac]

This seems to put the rumors of a "glass" trackpad to rest. The size of those in the photos looks to be about the same size as the Macbook Air trackpad.

[ibanana]

looks v thin. can't wait for tuesday!

[Tallest Skil]

Epic win maneuver.

[FieryFurnace]

That's interesting!
Glad I stayed up that long,... :p

[jbrenn]

Very good pics. it is both mb and pro one pic does not have speaker grill. and no fire wire on mb.

[cthomet]

amazing, now im just wondering about that price point...

[DARKJ3DI]

YEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! i sure hope its real. how do people get these pictures anyway?

[bartelby]

So what's the significance of the 3 holes in the trackpad area in the MBP?

[Tallest Skil]

Very good pics and are we sure it is the pro

One of them has ExpressCard/34. Do you really expect them NOT to update the MacBook Pro on Tuesday?!

[fastbite]

WoW! This this is starting to look really sexy

[OriginalMacRat]

Chicklet keys = EPIC FAIL!!

[thefunkymunky]

So we can safely predict from these pics that the new MBP will be latchless. :D

[wheelhot]

Very good pics. it is both mb and pro one pic does not have speaker grill. and no fire wire on mb.

There are holes, very small ones, look closer.

Nice, it looks thinner now, I wonder how thin is the display now. Hmm. it seems the MB trackpad size look like the MBA, so does it means MB will get multi touch?

The MBP trackpad size look the same though.

Overall, looks pretty nice. Can't wait to see the final product.
From the pic it seems the MBP power button is located at the upper most right? Darn, I prefer it to be where it is now (the current MBP), looks really nice the power button with the speaker holes.

Chicklet keys = EPIC FAIL!!

No it doesn't!, use it for a week and you will like it. Sheesh.

So we can safely predict from these pics that the new MBP will be latchless.

yup, too bad I just bought my MBP last March.

[illitrate23]

looks v thin. can't wait for tuesday!
looks like the ethernet connector is defining the minimum thickness of the macbook

the current macbook have enough space for a little ethernet icon above the socket, so as that is gone looks like the base will be about 3mm thinner? will the display/lid be any thinner?

[MasterNile]

So it doesn't look like it's got a DVI port, I'm not familiar with Display Port but can anyone tell from the pics if it's mini-DVI or Display Port?

EDIT-or possibly HDMI?

[queshy]

Looks great! Very thin. Glad they did away with the latch. ENOUGH LEAKS though I want a nice surprise on Tuesday...Let's Rock was very predictable and I hope this event doesn't turn out the same way. Apple needs to do a better job keeping everything secured. Back in the day we had no idea when and what would be announced and now it's just gotten ridiculous.

[SchneiderMan]

omg this is sweet, i cant wait!!! :D :D :eek:

[swagi]

...really must resist buying impulse.

Looking very sexy and my PB is really due for a retirement after 4 good years.

[hippeman]

The 'enter' button has changed and both of the 'shift' buttons are at the same size now. Looks nice!

[thefunkymunky]

Anyone else think the spy shots look like this nVidia press release photo?

http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/626/nvidia_macbook.jpg

[fastbite]

Chicklet keys = EPIC FAIL!!
Don't be silly. Chiclet Keys are tasty.

[queshy]

...really must resist buying impulse.

Looking very sexy and my PB is really due for a retirement after 4 good years.

Common...you know you want to...come Tuesday you know you will! Just put it up for sale on Ebay. It's probably worth some money. Apple computers have excellent resale value!

On another note, looks like there won't be a "glass trackpad", lol.

[arn]

There are holes, very small ones, look closer.

Nice, it looks thinner now, I wonder how thin is the display now. Hmm. it seems the MB trackpad size look like the MBA, so does it means MB will get multi touch?

The MBP trackpad size look the same though.

The photos are deceptive. The MBP case is much bigger, but the photo is the same size as the MB. From the look of it, the trackpad is a bit bigger than the spacebar on both. So I think the trackpads are both the same and both large.

arn

[irmongoose]

So it seems like they are getting rid of Firewire altogether on the MacBooks...


irmongoose

[ventro]

Not a fan of the boxy look so far... I hope the MBA is the $800 laptop.

[AndyHogan]

This port is certainly not DVI, Mini DVI, or Micro DVI. It also seems like it is not wide enough to be HDMI and it doesn't look like it fits DisplayPort either! Does anyone know what this port is?

Upon further inspection, it seems like it is Mini DVI. Sorry :). However, I hope this picture is (or I am) wrong. People won't be too happy if they cannot power their 30" displays with their MBP.

[fastbite]

Yes, the Pro one looks like a 15, not 17'

[arn]

This port is certainly not DVI, Mini DVI, or Micro DVI. It also seems like it is not wide enough to be HDMI and it doesn't look like it fist DisplayPort either! Does anyone know what this port is?

based on the label seen in that one photo, it looks like it is some form of video out.

arn

[queshy]

Arn, go to sleep!

[SchneiderMan]

look at that slot drive wow

[fastbite]

Not a fan of the boxy look so far... I hope the MBA is the $800 laptop.
I think that one all the parts are together the 'Boxy' feel will melt away.

[swagi]

that pix are awesome, but the site is getting hammered.

btw you now can see a clear difference in the proposed display port. So there's definitely something on the way. The shape of the display port rather looks like a SCART connector in mini and is clearly opposed to all the ports we currently know.

[fastbite]

This is like watching a slow motion strip-tease. First blurry and gradually building up to the final money shot on tuesday. I have a feeling it is co-ordinated from the top.

[ryan.stewie]

phew! thank god that the MacBook is aluminium and not plastic any more!

[arn]

phew! thank god that the MacBook is aluminium and not plastic any more!

it's still possible the back could be plastic. we haven't seen any photos of that.

arn

[DaveTheGrey]

looks really great! thin also

[Fishd]

This port is certainly not DVI, Mini DVI, or Micro DVI. It also seems like it is not wide enough to be HDMI and it doesn't look like it fits DisplayPort either! Does anyone know what this port is?

Upon further inspection, it seems like it is Mini DVI. Sorry :). However, I hope this picture is (or I am) wrong. People won't be too happy if they cannot power their 30" displays with their MBP.

If the port assignment stays the same as current Macbooks will it not be as follows?

Ethernet
Mini-DVI
USB
USB
Firewire 800
Kensington

Thought I read somewhere that the notebooks were being bumped to FW800 as the connector is smaller?

EDIT: Looks like there is one port fewer on the Macbook casing... seems Apple will be dropping firewire on the consumer notebooks :(

[plinkoman]

Its difficult to tell, but from what I can see from those pics, the optical drive is on the right side on both the 13" and 15" instead of being up front on the 15".

I will be EXTREMELY displeased if that turns out to be the case. :mad:

[pik.]

from the pics am I the only one who sees a 14" Macbook vertical print or I am dreaming?:p

[SchneiderMan]

now i wanna see the top with the apple logo :D

[queshy]

Its difficult to tell, but from what I can see from those pics, the optical drive is on the right side on both the 13" and 15" instead of being up front on the 15".

I will be EXTREMELY displeased if that turns out to be the case. :mad:
Why? What's the difference?

[narcotic]

I hop the MBP will come in 16" and 18,1" displays.
They seem to be very thin, when I'm looking at the drive at the right...
nice!

[Ping Guo]

Looking good. Now come on Apple, make the whole case out of Al!

[rmwebs]

If anyone can get on the macx.cn site can you post the pics? Its just not working for most of us!

I'm a little disappointed that theres no "Black gloss" like on the iMacs but this is going to be a huge improvement. I've got a white MacBook at the moment...I had to take it in for repair last month as it cracked! At least we know that wont be happening any more!

My only grief is that its not as rounded as I was expecting. I was hoping they would go super round like they did with the Air!

[fastbite]

Its difficult to tell, but from what I can see from those pics, the optical drive is on the right side on both the 13" and 15" instead of being up front on the 15".

I will be EXTREMELY displeased if that turns out to be the case. :mad:

To have it in the front is a pain in the neck if you have it on your lap or sit very close to it. Right side better.

[SchneiderMan]

Now say babye to this

[Rogue68]

How do we know the smaller machine is a MacBook and not a small MBP? What happened to the rumor about the MB being black plastic?

I'm so hoping they haven't scrapped firewire on either model.

[pik.]

Looking good. Now come on Apple, make the whole case out of Al!

the idea of a half plastic Macbook makes me nervous..:p

[butterfly0fdoom]

This port is certainly not DVI, Mini DVI, or Micro DVI. It also seems like it is not wide enough to be HDMI and it doesn't look like it fits DisplayPort either! Does anyone know what this port is?

Upon further inspection, it seems like it is Mini DVI. Sorry :). However, I hope this picture is (or I am) wrong. People won't be too happy if they cannot power their 30" displays with their MBP.

It isn't mini-DVI, it's too small.

[iCantwait]

kind of sucks for my 1G and 2G ipods then:(

[queshy]

How do we know the smaller machine is a MacBook and not a small MBP? What happened to the rumor about the MB being black plastic?

I'm so hoping they haven't scrapped firewire on either model.

As Arn pointed out it might be two-toned i.e. half plastic half alu. We'll have to wait for more leaks, lol.

[MasterNile]

If the port assignment stays the same as current Macbooks will it not be as follows?

Ethernet
Mini-DVI
USB
USB
Firewire 800
Kensington

Thought I read somewhere that the notebooks were being bumped to FW800 as the connector is smaller?

The problem is they aren't staying which is pretty obvious from the pics, plus it goes (from back to front) Magsafe, ethernet, Mini-DVI, Firewire, USB, USB, audio in, audio out, kensington

[Fishd]

Why? What's the difference?

Well, for one I'd prefer a front loading slot drive... I move my cursor to the drive... click eject... then my mousing hand gets stabbed by a CD :p

I have to move my external mouse and coffee out of the way... whereas if it was front loading... I'd just need to suck in my belly :D

[dandroid]

I wonder how much wrist abrasion this case is going to inflict...

[plinkoman]

Why? What's the difference?

when it's on the side, you have to move whatever is on your desk next to it to access the drive, when it's on the front, it is considerably more convenient.

What specifically aggravates me about this should it be true is that they are willing to compromise on details like this just for an extra .1" reduction in thickness. I sometimes think apple puts far too much emphasis on thinness at the expense of functionality.

[MacGohil]

The photos are deceptive. The MBP case is much bigger, but the photo is the same size as the MB. From the look of it, the trackpad is a bit bigger than the spacebar on both. So I think the trackpads are both the same and both large.

arn

Comparing the Trackpad size/placement against the Spacebar and Command keys the new MBP seems to have exact same size trackpads as the current MBP. So the new MBP will have the same size trackpads.

For those ruling out the possibility of a glass track pad already. Its always possible to implement the glass trackpad in any trackpad size as long as apple has decided to do so.... but my bet is we wont be seeing this any time soon. Like any other company out there.... we will see these new features trickle down one at a time.... Just so that Apple can sell new Macs to us every year.

[ReEIsS]

Oooooo! It's just 55 hours until Steve enters the stage!
Can't wait!:D

[pik.]

I need to see the closure case of the macbook....

please be of Alu pleeeaseeeee:confused:

[fastbite]

More pictures from the site as requested:

[jacg]

Both MB and MBP seem to have an additional hole near the front left hand side - like a microphone or headphone socket.

Also the MBP seems to have an extra USB port, taped over in the photo, next to the mystery hole near the front left.

Kensington security hole seems to be next to the CD slot on the other side. [edit: for the MBP]

[fastbite]

[QUOTE=MacGohil;6392794]Comparing the Trackpad size/placement against the Spacebar and Command keys the new MBP seems to have exact same size trackpads as the current MBP. So the new MBP will have the same size trackpads.

It looks the bigger depth wise.

[swagi]

The Video-Port definitely looks different on the smaller case. So maybe they are giving us the wrong clues. The big one is the MacBook and the small one ist the tiny and sexy MBP 13-inch. Now that'd be my wet Apple dream.

Look at the shot of the video port. I tried to draw it, but due to little caffeine and even less drawing skills on a trackpad, it looks shaky. But you get the idea.

The upper 'front' corner may be a compression artefact (don't know), but it looks different than any port I currently know. And it has the video label above.

[MasterNile]

It isn't mini-DVI, it's too small.

I can confirm this, after just measuring my USB port and mini-DVI port, they're both about 1/2 an inch (sorry I'm at work and apparently only have non metric rulers), in the pic the USB port is obviously wider than the video port

[pik.]

I think the the bigger case is also for the bigger Macbook e not only the Pro...

there is no reason why not since the maggiority of the parts are the same...

13" Macbook in a world of 14-15 is way little....:p

[manco]

Here are most of the pics

[plinkoman]

To have it in the front is a pain in the neck if you have it on your lap or sit very close to it. Right side better.

your opinion, and thats only when your using it on your lap; I think you'll find the front is much much better for desktop usage. I don't know about you, but i'm much more likely to be at my desk when swapping discs in and out than using it on my lap.

[SchneiderMan]

Yes for no more mbp lid gaps! ftw!

[bananas]

This is so great.

Now I want a MacBook too.

[MasterNile]

What is that port at the very front of the MBP that's covered up?

[nubix]

Does this mean all hope is lost on the optical-drive-less MacBook? :(

[ReEIsS]

The Video-Port definitely looks different on the smaller case. So maybe they are giving us the wrong clues. The big one is the MacBook and the small one ist the tiny and sexy MBP 13-inch. Now that'd be my wet Apple dream.

Look at the shot of the video port. I tried to draw it, but due to little caffeine and even less drawing skills on a trackpad, it looks shaky. But you get the idea.

The upper 'front' corner may be a compression artefact (don't know), but it looks different than any port I currently know. And it has the video label above.


Maybe it's a port for a bigger FireWire connection?

[fastbite]

your opinion, and thats only when your using it on your lap; I think you'll find the front is much much better for desktop usage. I don't know about you, but i'm much more likely to be at my desk when swapping discs in and out than using it on my lap.

Yes, just my opinion obviously, I use a Pro with it on the front and an old macbook with the slot on the side. An for me the side is better. Regardless everybody will have different preferences. I guess is not a major point either way.

[jacg]

This pic does not seem to have been reposted in this thread. It shows the security slot on the alleged MBP.

[Edit: Regarding the other pictures...] So do we think the 15" MBP will have 3 x USB? Is the other hole for a big screw?

[k2k koos]

Whatever Apple releases, I will likely buy a MBP. My Alu Powerbook has served me well for well over 4 years now, and considering my usage of it, I will need FW ports, the 800 AND the 400, unless they provide an adapter with the machine to turn the FW 800 into two 400's, but 2 800 would be better, I have a FW800 external HD, and a FW400 audio interface, that both need to be connected at the same time...

For the rest, what ever is released, is never going to be ugly, or bad quality, knowing Apple, it will be a fantastic machine! :apple:

[weckart]

So it seems like they are getting rid of Firewire altogether on the MacBooks...


irmongoose


Noticed that too. Bye bye FW Target mode.

[SchneiderMan]

What is that port at the very front of the MBP that's covered up?

looks like a wide Hdmi port?

[fastbite]

What is that port at the very front of the MBP that's covered up?
I'm questioning the same. Another veil to uncover in this particular dance...

[narcotic]

This pic does not seem to have been reposted in this thread. It shows the security slot on the alleged MBP.

So do we think the 15" MBP will have 3 x USB?

Is the other hole for a big screw?

seems like the hole next to the drive is a keningston too?

[Manic Mouse]

I'm really impressed by how thin the new MBs look, pretty much as thin as they can be with an ethernet port. Good work Apple.

[jacg]

Does this mean all hope is lost on the optical-drive-less MacBook? :(

Tah-dah

[Super Intendo]

As the differences between the Macbook and the Macbook Pro continue to get smaller, i hope the price difference gets smaller as well, because at this point, wont we basically be paying ~900 more for uhm... a graphics card, 2" of screen real estate and um... speaker grilles?

lets see here:
Both Alum
Both Mag Latch
Both Multi-Touch
Both Back-Lit Chicklet Keyboard
Both Seamless
Neither Firewire
Neither Full DVI
Neither HDMI
Neither Larger Trackpad than the other

something strange is going on here.

I'm SO hoping that what we're seeing here is a 13" and a 15" macbook and that we just havent been fortunate enough to see a picture of the Pro...

the only thing tha could be worse than losing firewire, dvi, and any big differentiation between MB and MBP is if they drop the matte option.

I can see it now, steve jobs on stage "This will be our last go at making computers, so we're just releasing these notebooks we threw together last weekend for our oldest fans... HERES A TV WITH AN APPLE TV INSIDE IT!" "OH AND MORE NEW IPODS!"

please, dont disappoint me steve... :rolleyes:

[jm1234567890]

Whatever Apple releases, I will likely buy a MBP. My Alu Powerbook has served me well for well over 4 years now, and considering my usage of it, I will need FW ports, the 800 AND the 400, unless they provide an adapter with the machine to turn the FW 800 into two 400's, but 2 800 would be better, I have a FW800 external HD, and a FW400 audio interface, that both need to be connected at the same time...

For the rest, what ever is released, is never going to be ugly, or bad quality, knowing Apple, it will be a fantastic machine! :apple:

you can daisy chain firewire devices. Normally firewire HDD have 2 ports for this purpose.

[Shagrat]

So it seems like they are getting rid of Firewire altogether on the MacBooks...


irmongoose

Hmmn. If so they've lost one sale, right here.

I use firewire HDDs and a Firewire Focusrite Saffire audio interface. Not to mention on my Camcorder.

Not good.

[Ping Guo]

Random speculation:

A 13" with the rumored black plastic shell, as the $800 entry level 'book.
13", 15", 17" pro lineup, all aluminum. Optional SSD drives on these models.:D

There's one possible explanation for the 12 SKUs. But I wonder, where does that leave the MBA?

[SchneiderMan]

they made them even more sleek, no added plastic sides too

[pik.]

Random speculation:

A 13" with the rumored black plastic shell, as the $800 entry level 'book.
13", 15", 17" pro lineup, all aluminum. Optional SSD drives on these models.:D

There's one possible explanation for the 12 SKUs. But I wonder, where does that leave the MBA?
I think they leave the 13 for the more portable Air and the Macbook goes 14 and the pro 16-18...

we will see...
:cool:

[kockgunner]

I think the laptops are going to be tapered when they add the metal plate at the bottom. Just like the Macbook Air, the vertical edge around the whole computer is uniform but the metal plate that makes the bottom of the computer is what gives it its tapered shape. The similar is going to happen to the Macbook Pros and Macbooks by adding a plate either metal or plastic, although they are going to be less tapered. The Pro might get a metal baseplate, while the regular Macbook might get a polycarbonate bottom shell for better wireless reception.

Apple won't make their computers like a rectangle again. Just look at the iMac, iPhone, iPod touch, and Air and you can see they are moving towards a new design direction for this generation's computers.

[narcotic]

Hmmn. If so they've lost one sale, right here.

I use firewire HDDs and a Firewire Focusrite Saffire audio interface. Not to mention on my Camcorder.

Not good.

a MB or MBP without Firewire 400? don't believe that!
without Firewire 800 is possible, cause that will go out of the market.
but a F400 is in!

[mmmikael]

http://i38.tinypic.com/xc3q8h.jpg

What do you think about this design?

[narcotic]

http://i38.tinypic.com/xc3q8h.jpg

What do you think about this design?

that is has not a magnetic latch :(

[jacg]

you can daisy chain firewire devices. Normally firewire HDD have 2 ports for this purpose.

I gather some FW camcorders only work if connected directly to the computer.

[SchneiderMan]

http://i38.tinypic.com/xc3q8h.jpg

What do you think about this design?

really nice, but i dont think thats the case

[HackBook]

Damnit Apple - why use Mini DVI - it can't power a 30 inch cinema display! I for one hope that Apple make these new MacBook Pro's worth the upgrade, or I will be heading off to the refurb store to buy one of the current models, as I'd like to be able to power a large Cinema Display in the future.

[LoveCrusader]

No Firewire on a macbook = They've lost me also. I have to have a firewire for my computer because I also use firewire hard drives, firewire audio interfaces, camcorders, etc. This is for my own personal work, school, everything. Bad move by Apple for me personally, and I don't think I will be the only one.

[HackBook]

a MB or MBP without Firewire 400? don't believe that!
without Firewire 800 is possible, cause that will go out of the market.
but a F400 is in!

One of the rumours circulating was that Apple would include a Firewire 800 to 400 converter. At least I hope they do - I'm not paying £15 for a converter that I believe should come in the box (just like the Apple Remote)

EDIT: The MacBook won't have any type of Firewire.

[Solid Raven]

tapered edges, ugh. I like the shape of the current mbp, more rectangular.

Anxiously awaiting the final design with everything on it.
I'm a bit afraid they made it even thinner, it can only mean: less powerful than it could have been or even hotter.

[MacGohil]

I wonder how much wrist abrasion this case is going to inflict...
n
As I say... U can never win.... The whinners never die....

For %#$ sake appreciate the beauty.... Nothing changes overnight and they consider all other options and then arrive at a Give'n'Take (balanced) solution.

[SchneiderMan]

One of the rumours circulating was that Apple would include a Firewire 800 to 400 converter. At least I hope they do - I'm not paying £15 for a converter that I believe should come in the box (just like the Apple Remote)

apple is smart, they have a plan for everything.

[richard.mac]

…
Both Back-Lit Chicklet Keyboard…

how do you know this exactly? no one will know until Tuesday… but it will probably get it.

…
Neither Firewire…

the MacBook Pro will have Firewire 800 and 400 (maybe 3200 and 800) on the other side of the case which hasnt been shown yet.

also the MacBook Pro will have higher clocked processors and comes with a higher capacity stock hard drive plus the casing will probably be thinner and it has a longer battery life. but i see your point and hopefully the price difference will decrease.

[plinkoman]

...the only thing that could be worse than losing firewire, dvi, and any big differentiation between MB and MBP is if they drop the matte option...

Oh dear lord, that had not even occurred to me. I seriously don't know what I would do, I can't stand glossy screens. :eek:

I'm just really going to hope that that is not the case.

[Loge]

you can daisy chain firewire devices. Normally firewire HDD have 2 ports for this purpose.

If you have 2 bus powered devices, the question is whether you be able to draw enough power from a single port.

[Super Intendo]

okay, its only been two minutes, but in thinking about it more this really makes NO sense.

MacBook Pro

PRO! PRO! Pro as in Professional, as in professonal photographer's who use firewire for all sorts of things. Pro as in professional musician who has all his equipment linked up with a firewire interface. Pro as in professional ANYONE who uses external drives at their maximum speed using firewire.

this is not right.

my guess:

Smaller apple notebook, netbook or sub notebook 10-13" potentially. Black plastic and alum two tone. This is the 800 dollar laptop.

Macbook- 13" and 15" (thats what we're seeing here)

Macbook Pro- 15" and 17" (we havent seen this yet)

think about this-
the $800 one comes in two SKUs- one base, one higher end.
the Macbook comes in 5 SKU's- 3 for the 13(same as now), 2 for the 15.
The MBP coms in 3 SKU's - 2 for the 15, 1 for the 17 (same as now)
and the Macbook Air comes in 2 SKU's- SSD and non SSD (same. as. now.)

two, plus five, plus three, plus two (at least by my counting) adds up to twelve SKU's.

please, please, please for the love of god let me be right.

[jacg]

The other small round hole on the left near the front of both designs: would this be a crazy place to put the IR sensor?

[pik.]

Am I the only one that thinks the new MBPro case is less serius and less Pro than the Pro now on sale?:cool:

[emotion]

Hmmn. If so they've lost one sale, right here.

I use firewire HDDs and a Firewire Focusrite Saffire audio interface. Not to mention on my Camcorder.

Not good.

I'm praying there's at least one FW port on the MB. Otherwise no sale for me.

I can cope with using my external HD via USB2 but I don't have the option for my Echo Audiofire2 audio interface.

[technocoy]

there is no way they are gonna release a macbook pro that won't power the dual link... Everyone just settle down.

I'm actually just relieved that that mystery port at the front isn't the DVI port... that would piss me off to have the DVI cable hanging off the front left of my machine all the time.

The nice thing is if all the ports are on the left again it means they can finally make docks for them again...

OOOHHHH or maybe the new macbooks and macbook pros can all be docked into the new TV they are releasing... HMmmmmm....

[plinkoman]

the MacBook Pro will have Firewire 800 and 400 (maybe 3200 and 800) on the other side of the case which hasnt been shown yet.

I'm afraid it has. There are two side photos showing the optical drive, one with a kensington slot next to it, one without. The one with the kensington slot must be the MBP, as pictures show it is on the other side on the Macbook.

If this is the case, what you see on the left side of these MBP pictures is it.

[LoveCrusader]

Looks like Apple has planned to nickle and dime people to death on purpose. Everybody will need to buy 5 different special converters from them just to get all their stuff to work. Probably at least $50 a pop. Their pricecut looks good on the surface, but they'll end up snatching up way more this way.

[MasterNile]

Am I the only one that thinks the new MBPro case is less serius and less Pro than the Pro now on sale?:cool:

lol I think everyone thinks that which is why some are saying the "Pro" is actually a bigger MB

[RoDe]

If these pics are the real deal. I don't get why they put all of the ports om the left. It gives as much cleaner look to have fewer ports on either side. I really don't like the messy look of left side of what appears to the new MBP.

[nick9191]

Why would the Macbook not have Firewire?

When they released the Alu iMac they actually put Firewire 800 on it as well as 400. So they're adding Firewire ports to the iMac and taking them off the Macbook?

[MacGohil]

[QUOTE=MacGohil;6392794]Comparing the Trackpad size/placement against the Spacebar and Command keys the new MBP seems to have exact same size trackpads as the current MBP. So the new MBP will have the same size trackpads.

It looks the bigger depth wise.

IMHO... Its same.... coz the Mouse Button occupies quite a bit of space there... And more thing.... Did anyone notice the MBP trackpad has some slot work in the trackpad window in the top area while the MP trackpad is all empty? Does this implies the trackpads will have different functionalities in MBP and MP???????

[beg_ne]

when it's on the side, you have to move whatever is on your desk next to it to access the drive, when it's on the front, it is considerably more convenient.

What specifically aggravates me about this should it be true is that they are willing to compromise on details like this just for an extra .1" reduction in thickness. I sometimes think apple puts far too much emphasis on thinness at the expense of functionality.

Some of the rumors are that having the drive on the side for the MBP would allow for a larger battery (and hence longer lasting) it would also make it easier for users to replace the RAM and HD. Similar to how you can on current MB's.

[bartelby]

Did anyone notice the MBP trackpad has some slot work in the trackpad window in the top area while the MP trackpad is all empty? Does this implies the trackpads will have different functionalities in MBP and MP??????? [/B]

Yes, me.
So what's the significance of the 3 holes in the trackpad area in the MBP?

[Super Intendo]

Oh dear lord, that had not even occurred to me. I seriously don't know what I would do, I can't stand glossy screens. :eek:

I'm just really going to hope that that is not the case.

i dont mind glossy screens, i just MUCH prefer matte. Think about it though... macbook- glossy, macbook air- glossy, imac- glossy. At this point i really wouldnt put it past them...

[MasterNile]

i dont mind glossy screens, i just MUCH prefer matte. Think about it though... macbook- glossy, macbook air- glossy, imac- glossy. At this point i really wouldnt put it past them...

But none of those are pro computers

[LoveCrusader]

I'm not spending an extra $1000 on a MBP just because it has firewire, when the MB is all I need but for some reason doesn't have firewire ?

[pik.]

okay, its only been two minutes, but in thinking about it more this really makes NO sense.

MacBook Pro

PRO! PRO! Pro as in Professional, as in professonal photographer's who use firewire for all sorts of things. Pro as in professional musician who has all his equipment linked up with a firewire interface. Pro as in professional ANYONE who uses external drives at their maximum speed using firewire.

this is not right.

my guess:

Smaller apple notebook, netbook or sub notebook 10-13" potentially. Black plastic and alum two tone. This is the 800 dollar laptop.

Macbook- 13" and 15" (thats what we're seeing here)

Macbook Pro- 15" and 17" (we havent seen this yet)

think about this-
the $800 one comes in two SKUs- one base, one higher end.
the Macbook comes in 5 SKU's- 3 for the 13(same as now), 2 for the 15.
The MBP coms in 3 SKU's - 2 for the 15, 1 for the 17 (same as now)
and the Macbook Air comes in 2 SKU's- SSD and non SSD (same. as. now.)

two, plus five, plus three, plus two (at least by my counting) adds up to twelve SKU's.

please, please, please for the love of god let me be right.
for the love of God I wish you are!!!!!!!!!:p

if you are true I ll send you money for a dinner!!!!!!!!!
15Macbook (Not Pro) will suit me perfectly!!!!!

[SchneiderMan]

i like glossy better

[derryquinn]

http://gizmodo.com/assets/images/gallery/4/2008/01/medium_2162321828_45eb2310d3_o.jpg

Anyone remember this patent?

All the port are now on the left side of the MacBook's according to this article...

Coincidence?

I'd love it to be true!

How about merging this idea with ACD and The new TV Rumor :D

Cool, but not happening probably, though I wouldn't put it past them.

[el3ktro]

The 'enter' button has changed and both of the 'shift' buttons are at the same size now. Looks nice!

I noticed the same. I wonder though, on my current MacBook the second-lowest row of keys, the one with the Shift buttons, has 11 standard-sized keys, while the new MB and MBP only have 10 of them - so I wonder which key is missing. I supposed it's the left one, the one with the two arrows < and > - but where did it go?

[Super Intendo]

But none of those are pro computers

true, but the iMac used to have a matte screen. They're going for the consumer right now, just your average "look at my pictures, send my email, watch some movies" consumer and that could end up screwing over a very large majority of us.

If what i predicted before is true, then on tuesday, will be blown away, but if the only notebooks we're seeing is this Macbook and this Macbook "pro" then i think we have alot to be worried about.

[plinkoman]

i like glossy better

And I don't. Shouldn't we each get the option to chose?

[MacGohil]

Does this mean all hope is lost on the optical-drive-less MacBook? :(

Nope, its called Macbook Air.... Its been out there since Jan 2008.... Go get it before its too late.... Oh wait....
Now that you are awake from your slumber underneath that Rock.... U can get the newer ones may be on 14th Oct. :D

[richard.mac]

I'm afraid it has. There are two side photos showing the optical drive, one with a kensington slot next to it, one without. The one with the kensington slot must be the MBP, as pictures show it is on the other side on the Macbook.

If this is the case, what you see on the left side of these MBP pictures is it.

ah yes sorry i must have missed it. so it looks like it will just be Firewire 800 (or 3200) for the MBP.

139099

[SchneiderMan]

And I don't. Shouldn't we each get the option to chose?

yes, and we will

[Super Intendo]

http://gizmodo.com/assets/images/gallery/4/2008/01/medium_2162321828_45eb2310d3_o.jpg

Anyone remember this patent?

I'll tell you one thing for SURE- Mr. Ive most certainly didnt draw that.

look at those apple logos! ew!
:p

someone lighten the mood, quick, this is scaring me. (not the picture, just the general thought that the leaks really could be a macbook pro...)

[phatspider]

Both MB and MBP seem to have an additional hole near the front left hand side - like a microphone or headphone socket.

Also the MBP seems to have an extra USB port, taped over in the photo, next to the mystery hole near the front left.

Kensington security hole seems to be next to the CD slot on the other side. [edit: for the MBP]

Pretty sure thats just a screw hole to hold casing in place

[MasterNile]

Ok this is to make it easier for me and others cause there seems to be some confusion on which photos are from which computer

#1 "Pro" or 15" MB
http://down.wally.in:8081/ftp/pic/161546.jpg
http://down.wally.in:8081/ftp/pic/161603.jpg
http://down.wally.in:8081/ftp/pic/161645.jpg
http://down.wally.in:8081/ftp/pic/161714.jpg

#2 13" MB
http://down.wally.in:8081/ftp/pic/161822.jpg
http://down.wally.in:8081/ftp/pic/161859.jpg
http://down.wally.in:8081/ftp/pic/161918.jpg
http://down.wally.in:8081/ftp/pic/161931.jpg

4 images of each, same angles (basically) for each computer

[Super Intendo]

ah yes sorry i must have missed it. so it looks like it will just be Firewire 800 (or 3200) for the MBP.

139099

if your correct thats extremely good... but i still think it should be on the macbook as well, and there are still far to few differences... to justify spending an extra ~1000

[mirmir]

the idea of a half plastic Macbook makes me nervous..:p

It makes me nervous too.
If it is, I'm sure I'll like it more 'when' I see it, but It's still an odd concept.
My friend linked me this (http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/334/C16372/), which claims "New Apple MacBook Pays Homage to Silver Pandas". :eek: PANDAS?!

[plinkoman]

ah yes sorry i must have missed it. looks like its just the optical drive and Kensington on the RHS. so it looks like it will just be Firewire 800 (or 3200) for the MBP.

I guess that's not too bad a thing given that fw800/fw3200 is compatible with fw400. Hopefully they will provide the pin converter.

[plinkoman]

yes, and we will

I hope you're right

[LoveCrusader]

but there's no firewire on the Macbook ? Only the Maccrook Pro ? Yay for having to spend an extra $1000 for a feature that a $50 laptop would have. Apple are a bunch of crooks. Or they want everyone to buy their special apple converters for $250 a pop or something ?

[RoDe]

OK now I'm sure the big one isn't an mbp. It's a 15" MacBook. All the ports om the left side make no sense on an mbp.

[Malooga]

i hope the chicklet keys are aluminum on the mbp. i could dont give a flying **** about the regular macbooks. just hope the mbp is all aluminum, including chicklet keys and display housing.

dont want black plastic chikley keys unless the bezel is black to match.

i cant wait until tuesday. thank god for football sunday and mnf.

[MasterNile]

ah yes sorry i must have missed it. so it looks like it will just be Firewire 800 (or 3200) for the MBP.

139099

But wait, I thought that was ethernet? or are we saying the one behind it is ethernet? and what about the magsafe then?

[pik.]

OK now I'm sure the big one isn't an mbp. It's a 15" MacBook. All the ports om the left side make no sense on an mbp.

exactly what I was thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[emotion]

Some thoughts:

Screens: I don't mind glossy now I've lived with my MB. Might be nice to use 14" screens with a smaller bezel and have 16:9 ratio, and LED backlit.

FW: Please let one of the ports be a combined fw800/400. Audio interfaces and cameras are FW... You could argue that's a Pro feature. Photographers loved the 12" PB. A small Pro level laptop is then necessary. Musicians loved the small PB too (myself included). Signs of a small Pro? Too much overlap with alu MB?

Trackpad: the bigger machine has a smaller pad with more supports. Signs this is a glass pad like a sunken Touch? The smaller machine si the MB with a Air-style pad.

[Super Intendo]

But wait, I thought that was ethernet? or are we saying the one behind it is ethernet? and what about the magsafe then?

BUM BUM BUUMMMMMM....

The plot thickens...

[mirmir]

Does this mean all hope is lost on the optical-drive-less MacBook? :(
No, because the cases may (though unlikely in my opinion) be fakes. Or no, because it's a new magical form of firewire that happens to have an optical-drive sized slot.
AKA Probably. People who want an apple netbook will tend to purchase the Air.

[phatspider]

OK now I'm sure the big one isn't an mbp. It's a 15" MacBook. All the ports om the left side make no sense on an mbp.

What do you think the chances are then of Macbooks being updated, and MBPs not?

[plinkoman]

But wait, I thought that was ethernet? or are we saying the one behind it is ethernet? and what about the magsafe then?

I think the magsafe is just offscreen in that image

[pik.]

I think we will see both updating....:p

[emotion]

It makes me nervous too.
If it is, I'm sure I'll like it more 'when' I see it, but It's still an odd concept.
My friend linked me this (http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/334/C16372/), which claims "New Apple MacBook Pays Homage to Silver Pandas". :eek: PANDAS?!

Dunno about Pandas but those shots are what I'm expecting:

http://www.mobilemag.com/content/images/16372_super.jpg

[narcotic]

What do you think the chances are then of Macbooks being updated, and MBPs not?

no.
MB and MBP get's updated

[MasterNile]

What do you think the chances are then of Macbooks being updated, and MBPs not?

I don't think that's very likely what with the spot light turning to 'notebooks' and all, not just MacBooks. What I think is more likely is that whoever got these photos only got to take pics of the new MBs and not the MBPs

[Super Intendo]

What do you think the chances are then of Macbooks being updated, and MBPs not?

that would make for even LESS differences, think about it, the macbooks will probably be updated to 2.5 GHZ and the current mbp's are 2.5GHZ- they have to update more, plus the invitation reads "Notebooks" "s" implying multiple lines...

[Manic Mouse]

but there's no firewire on the Macbook ? Only the Maccrook Pro ? Yay for having to spend an extra $1000 for a feature that a $50 laptop would have. Apple are a bunch of crooks. Or they want everyone to buy their special apple converters for $250 a pop or something ?

They have to distinguish the MB and MBP some how, and you know what Apple are like.

Apple giveth, and Apple taketh away.

[mirmir]

I think the laptops are going to be tapered when they add the metal plate at the bottom. Just like the Macbook Air, the vertical edge around the whole computer is uniform but the metal plate that makes the bottom of the computer is what gives it its tapered shape. The similar is going to happen to the Macbook Pros and Macbooks by adding a plate either metal or plastic, although they are going to be less tapered. The Pro might get a metal baseplate, while the regular Macbook might get a polycarbonate bottom shell for better wireless reception.

Apple won't make their computers like a rectangle again. Just look at the iMac, iPhone, iPod touch, and Air and you can see they are moving towards a new design direction for this generation's computers.

+1

[MasterNile]

I think the magsafe is just offscreen in that image

Hmm...that's possible but hard to tell from that angle, sometimes I think there might be enough room for the magsafe to be offscreen and sometimes I don't

[tfredvik]

Isn't there missing a key on the second row from the bottom? With the wide left shift key there is only room for 12 keys on this row, while on my MBP there are 13 keys. So which key has been removed? "`~"? :confused:

[Super Intendo]

do you think they'll change the shape/size of the magsafe to somehow make it more functional... i mean its already extremely functional, but they've updated their power connector every genneration, i dont see any reason to stop now. nothings perfect, right?

and whats with all this "+1" ****? i dont see the point.

[narcotic]

Isn't there missing a key on the second row from the bottom? With the wide left shift key there is only room for 12 keys on this row, while on my MBP there are 13 keys. So which key has been removed? "`~"? :confused:

call again mate!

When I chek the apple macbookpro site, I count 12 on the seconds row from the bottom

[narcotic]

Isn't there missing a key on the second row from the bottom? With the wide left shift key there is only room for 12 keys on this row, while on my MBP there are 13 keys. So which key has been removed? "`~"? :confused:

lol, but on my macbook I'm counting 13 as well... :)
maybe the difference between AZERTY and QWERTY
it's stays 79 buttons in total

[OriginalMacRat]

Chicklet keys = EPIC FAIL!!


No it doesn't!, use it for a week and you will like it. Sheesh.

I own the Apple desktop chicklet keyboard... Had to try it out.

Then I loaned it around to over two dozen people at work and they could only stand using it for 1 hour at most.

It's a really sad keyboard.

[richard.mac]

I think the magsafe is just offscreen in that image

correct.

[emotion]

Had a better look.

The small one has no ethernet port? It does have some strange new type of FW port in front of the two USB.

New adapter from apple?

The front port on the side of the larger machine is curious.

[Ashhong]

Dunno about Pandas but those shots are what I'm expecting:

http://www.mobilemag.com/content/images/16372_super.jpg

i would put a .1% chance that those are real. they dont fit the leaked casings at all, and are way too ugly. just looks like a photoshopped MBP.

[barefootman]

Chicklet keys = EPIC FAIL!!

Guys

What's a "chicklet key"?

Sorry if it seams like a dump question; never heard it before.

[narcotic]

Had a better look.

The small one has no ethernet port? It does have some strange new type of FW port in front of the two USB.

New adapter from apple?

The front port on the side of the larger machine is curious.

new adapter, you mena power adapter? would be not suh a good thing..
I think apple stays with their macsafe's

[emotion]

i would put a .1% chance that those are real. they dont fit the leaked casings at all, and are way too ugly. just looks like a photoshopped MBP.

They're obviously not real, they're an impression of what they could look like.

[nick9191]

Guys

What's a "chicklet key"?

Sorry if it seams like a dump question; never heard it before.

http://www.amitbhawani.com/Images/macbook-Amit.jpg

Those are

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/MacBook_Pro.jpg

Those aren't

[Super Intendo]

Guys

What's a "chicklet key"?

Sorry if it seams like a dump question; never heard it before.

they're the square, seperated keys seen on the macbook and macbook air, as well as apples current keyboard line, look at that compared to the macbook pro keyboard and you'll see a big difference. Some people love them, some people hate them, but i'm typing on the bluetooth chicklets i bought tonight and i'm loving it ;)

[MasterNile]

lol, but on my macbook I'm counting 13 as well... :)
maybe the difference between AZERTY and QWERTY
it's stays 79 buttons in total

But you're also from Belgium, the American keyboards are set up exactly like the ones shown in the pics, just confirmed myself on my macbook, macbook pics on apple.com and MBP pics on apple.com

[LoveCrusader]

Well they had my money, but lost it. You can buy a pack of bubblegum these days and it will feature a firewire connection. Purposely leaving out a basic feature that every other single laptop in the world has just to try to rape people out of an extra $1000. Sorry Mac Nazis, I will not buy your Maccrook Hoe for an extra $1000. Their $4000 Maccrooks Hoes blew up last time. Here's to them getting sued forever and their new laptops blowing up again. Oh well, they had a great design on their last Maccrook Casing. Only 99.9% of them broke. Pure Genius .

[emotion]

new adapter, you mena power adapter? would be not suh a good thing..
I think apple stays with their macsafe's

No, I mean new FW adapter.

MBP will go with the fw1600/3200 port but the MB has something different at it's only FW400 (like it is now).

[mirmir]

Isn't there missing a key on the second row from the bottom? With the wide left shift key there is only room for 12 keys on this row, while on my MBP there are 13 keys. So which key has been removed? "`~"? :confused:

On the Chicklet iMac keyboard I'm using, the key count matches with 12.
[Shift] + [zxcvbnnm,./] + [Shift]

[drayon]

OK now I'm sure the big one isn't an mbp. It's a 15" MacBook. All the ports om the left side make no sense on an mbp.

I think you're dreaming. That has to be a MacBook not a Pro. The MacBook will NOT have ExpressCard expansion. Looks like Apple sold out..again!!!

No Firewire on Macbook and no eSATA or DisplayPort on either machine.

[pik.]

well on the right side of the estimated MBP there are no usb at all...

so I think that till now we have not seen yet a Macbook Pro case....:p

RoDe is right!

[yoyo5280]

OP
yum

[MasterNile]

I think you're dreaming. That has to be a MacBook not a Pro. The MacBook will NOT have ExpressCard expansion. Looks like Apple sold out..again!!!

No Firewire on Macbook and no eSATA or DisplayPort on either machine.

Is it possible the port that's covered up on the towards the front of the "Pro" is eSATA?

[narcotic]

No, I mean new FW adapter.

MBP will go with the fw1600/3200 port but the MB has something different at it's only FW400 (like it is now).

ok,

are there already devices that use FW1600 or more? Is it the same FW-port than 400? I doubt it cause there was a difference betwee a FW 400 and FW800 port too..

[kockgunner]

heres the case with the air's trackpad and keyboard superimposed on. im a noob at photoshop so the gradients are messed up. stupid healing brush tool doesnt work the way it should!!

[narcotic]

heres the case with the air's trackpad and keyboard superimposed on. im a noob at photoshop so the gradients are messed up. stupid healing brush tool doesnt work the way it should!!

I don't know why, but I don't think they would use that keyboard for the MBP.
I have no idea wich one they'll use, but I think the black one gets with the new MB's

[MasterNile]

ok,

are there already devices that use FW1600 or more? Is it the same FW-port than 400? I doubt it cause there was a difference betwee a FW 400 and FW800 port too..

I don't know of any devices that use FW1600 or more, but a FW 1600 port should be backward compatible with FW400+ and it would be a good way to future proof the firewire

[plinkoman]

I think you're dreaming. That has to be a MacBook not a Pro. The MacBook will NOT have ExpressCard expansion. Looks like Apple sold out..again!!!

No Firewire on Macbook and no eSATA or DisplayPort on either machine.

there is mini-dvi on both and eSATA can be attained through expresscard (no way apple was going to add that one on it's own)

as for firewire on the MacBook... :rolleyes: I don't get it, it's a better standard, and one that they created, yet it seems they're trying to pretend it doesn't exist these days.

[Super Intendo]

alright its way too late, this is my last post tonight, i need some sleep.

As far fetched as it is that the 15" macbook would have an express card slot i think its far more of a stretch that the MBP wont have firewire.

Honestly, whats steve going to announce on stage?

Faster!
Better graphics!
New case design!
less ports!
virtually a bigger macbook with a grahics card!

this just isnt adding up. I'm sure we'll have more gasoline to pour on the fire tomorrow, but i'm considering staying off macrumors till tuesday because i dont want this to be like "lets rock" was- boring and predictable.

[tfredvik]

On the Chicklet iMac keyboard I'm using, the key count matches with 12.
[Shift] + [zxcvbnnm,./] + [Shift]

Ah, I guess the reason for my confusion is that I've got an "English International" keyboard, not a US one...

[mirmir]

I don't know why, but I don't think they would use that keyboard for the MBP.
I have no idea wich one they'll use, but I think the black one gets with the new MB's

Complete guess here: Aluminum chicklets for the Pro?

[narcotic]

I don't know of any devices that use FW1600 or more, but a FW 1600 port should be backward compatible with FW400+ and it would be a good way to future proof the firewire

what do you mean with backward compatible?

[mklnz]

heres the case with the air's trackpad and keyboard superimposed on. im a noob at photoshop so the gradients are messed up. stupid healing brush tool doesnt work the way it should!!

Not a bad job :P, looks nice actually, looking forward to Tuesday (Or Wednesday in NZ :( )

[typecast.nz]

i'm liking the docking possibilities

display out looks like trimmed down micro-dvi? could it work in conjunction with usb for 30" cinema displays?

what is the taped up hole on mbp? someone identified round hole next to it as probably the IR. too wide and wrong place for esata? pros wouldn't want pop-out remote?...

[narcotic]

Complete guess here: Aluminum chicklets for the Pro?

alu, don't know, but I think they'll work with something near the new :apple: keyboards

[emotion]

ok,

are there already devices that use FW1600 or more? Is it the same FW-port than 400? I doubt it cause there was a difference betwee a FW 400 and FW800 port too..

I've not seen any but it's backwardly compatible so a simple adapter could be included.

[yorkshire]

IMO the new MB looks similar to the old one, just in an aluminium housing. Can't wait to see the finished product.

[FabriceH]

I don't think they'll produce a consumer Notebook without Firewire; they've got iMovie and iDVD for consumers, e.g. many DV-Camcorders need Firewire. They brought the USB-to-LAN-thingy on the MacBook Air, what if it is not a LAN port but FW800 on the MacBook?

Besides - I don't know if it is possible (technically), but how about a USB-FW-adapter?

[MasterNile]

what do you mean with backward compatible?

I mean that with a FW cord that's FW 1600 at one end and FW 400 you would be able to use a FW 400 device at FW 400 speed plugged into a FW 1600 port

[lsslbj]

see here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6393050&postcount=229

[narcotic]

Not a bad job :P, looks nice actually, looking forward to Tuesday (Or Wednesday in NZ :( )

tuesday-afternon in Belgium! :D

[aafuss1]

Already discovered that Apple has posted a document related to the late 2008 MB/MBP as Apple will call them-describing Airport card installation:
http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Misc/Inserts/073-1223-A.pdf

The documents is a reminder on installing the Airport card and it'snow located in the display asssembly, and is much smaller than before.

It's not on a password protected site-the "inserts" folder is viewable by anyone.

[narcotic]

I mean that with a FW cord that's FW 1600 at one end and FW 400 you would be able to use a FW 400 device at FW 400 speed plugged into a FW 1600 port

ok I see.. yeah, could make sense!

[plinkoman]

ok,

are there already devices that use FW1600 or more? Is it the same FW-port than 400? I doubt it cause there was a difference betwee a FW 400 and FW800 port too..

fw400 has a 6-pin connector. fw800/1600/3200 all have the same 9-pin connector. They are all backward and forward compatible with each other, but you will need a physical adapter to change 6-pin to 9-pin, and 9-pin to 6-pin.

[mirmir]

tuesday-afternon in Belgium! :D

I'll be in Economics, reading my MacRumors twitter/sms feed under the table. The teacher has an iPhone 3G, he'll understand!

[narcotic]

I'll be in Economics, reading my MacRumors twitter/sms feed under the table. The teacher has an iPhone 3G, he'll understand!

and you're from.... ?

[Super Intendo]

there is mini-dvi on both and eSATA can be attained through expresscard (no way apple was going to add that one on it's own)

as for firewire on the MacBook... :rolleyes: I don't get it, it's a better standard, and one that they created, yet it seems they're trying to pretend it doesn't exist these days.

okay i lied, one more. Your post really reminds me of when apple was about more than processor speed and the amount of ram, etc. We loved them because they DID push better or newer technology, like firewire, i remember when i could synch my ipod with Firewire and a bunch of my PC friends couldnt, they'd always ask how i'd sync so fast. lol

its just things like that where i feel like apple, in terms of their computers, are focusing more on innovation in design, and staying current on specs than they are pioneering new technologies like they once did. I mean unless theres alot more that we dont know right now, really whats the big deal? No eSATA, no FireWire, no BluRay, no HDMI, no DisplayPort, STILL not card reader, i mean honestly would on SDHC slot hurt?

or even features that others dont have like a glass trackpad, or something like that... true innovation.

I really dont expect apple to put all those things in, i dont, but theres no excuse to have NONE of them.

[mirmir]

and you're from.... ?
California, so same time zone.

[narcotic]

I'll be in Economics, reading my MacRumors twitter/sms feed under the table. The teacher has an iPhone 3G, he'll understand!

I'll just open my macbook and check all the live-updates there are... ;)

[pik.]

PICTURES ARE STOLEN FROM HERE!!!

http://www.machome.com.cn/viewthread.php?tid=33055&extra=page%3D1%26amp%3Bfilter%3D0%26amp%3Borderby%3Ddateline%26amp%3Bascdesc%3DDESC

the new mb, mbp and mba will be:
1 plastic 13.3' MB（original MB case）
2 aluminum 13.3'MB
3 aluminum15.4'MB
4 aluminum17.1'MB
5 aluminum Macbook Air（C case changed）

where is the MBP?
3 macbooks 15"? :confused: I don think so....

[aafuss1]

I own the Apple desktop chicklet keyboard... Had to try it out.

Then I loaned it around to over two dozen people at work and they could only stand using it for 1 hour at most.

It's a really sad keyboard.

I own the wired version-the cord is prone to being easily damaged.

Will the Macbook get a Multi-touch trackpad?

[narcotic]

okay i lied, one more. Your post really reminds me of when apple was about more than processor speed and the amount of ram, etc. We loved them because they DID push better or newer technology, like firewire, i remember when i could synch my ipod with Firewire and a bunch of my PC friends couldnt, they'd always ask how i'd sync so fast. lol


ok, but these days you can't sync your iPod using Firewire anymore.. You have to use USB 2.0

[narcotic]

I own the wired version-the cord is prone to being easily damaged.

Will the Macbook get a Multi-touch trackpad?

yes, every  notebook will get it!

[khunsanook]

Chicklet keys = EPIC FAIL!!

I love 'em. Best keyboard I've ever used.

[narcotic]

where is the MBP?
3 macbooks 15"? :confused: I don think so....

no, read the characters next to the chinese one's at the top of each pic.. ou'll see some are MB and some MBP

[MasterNile]

hey hey boys and girls guess what Nile just found on machome.com.cn

"MBP Boatbuilding on the left side of the picture, you can not see that the interface 1394A"

this was posted (after being translated with google) above the picture that shows the "Pro" ports

[Tragedies]

Little find (not by me);

http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Misc/Inserts/073-1223-A.pdf (it says late 2008)


Edit; Probably already posted >_> Sorrrrrrrrrrrry. :(

[JG271]

Pretty much a confirmation then, although details are skeptical about the back. I'm hoping its a fully aluminum design, going half and half doesn't seem very apple-like.

Either way, multi touch trackpads and nvidia chips in the macbooks is amazing! I'm just anxious to see what the specs are like, I'm predicting a large boost in the MBPs other specs, and a small bump in the macbooks.:apple:

[narcotic]

hey hey boys and girls guess what Nile just found on machome.com.cn

"MBP Boatbuilding on the left side of the picture, you can not see that the interface 1394A"

this was posted (after being translated with google) above the picture that shows the "Pro" ports

ok, but it's still Chinese for me.. explain?

[mirmir]

PICTURES ARE STOLEN FROM HERE!!!

http://www.machome.com.cn/viewthread.php?tid=33055&extra=page%3D1%26amp%3Bfilter%3D0%26amp%3Borderby%3Ddateline%26amp%3Bascdesc%3DDESC

the new mb, mbp and mba will be:
1 plastic 13.3' MB（original MB case）
2 aluminum 13.3'MB
3 aluminum15.4'MB
4 aluminum17.1'MB
5 aluminum Macbook Air（C case changed）

If that is true, then would they expect all Pro users to purchase a Mac Pro? I know quite a few people who require power and portability. The Pro is awesome, but it's definitely not "nimble".
I'd love a 15.4 in Alu MB, but that seems like they'd be cutting a large chunk of the market. :confused:

[narcotic]

Pretty much a confirmation then, although details are skeptical about the back. I'm hoping its a fully aluminum design, going half and half doesn't seem very apple-like.

Either way, multi touch trackpads and nvidia chips in the macbooks is amazing! I'm just anxious to see what the specs are like, I'm predicting a large boost in the MBPs other specs, and a small bump in the macbooks.:apple:

thinking 'bout:
3,04GhZ
Standard 4GB Ram - upgrade to 8GB
1GB Vram
300GB 7200RPM HD
?

[plinkoman]

ok, but these days you can't sync your iPod using Firewire anymore.. You have to use USB 2.0

which in my opinion is really lame. you can't even charge through firewire on the new iPods; which is even more lame. Though I still haven't upgraded from my 3G iPod from over 5 years ago; it syncs through fw and I love it.

[lsslbj]

If that is true, then would they expect all Pro users to purchase a Mac Pro? I know quite a few people who require power and portability. The Pro is awesome, but it's definitely not "nimble".
I'd love a 15.4 in Alu MB, but that seems like they'd be cutting a large chunk of the market. :confused:

sorry, the larger ones should be MBP, my fault

[MasterNile]

ok, but it's still Chinese for me.. explain?

go to translate.google.com and put the URL in where it says "Translate a Web Page" then pic "Detect language" >> English then click translate

[pik.]

no, read the characters next to the chinese one's at the top of each pic.. ou'll see some are MB and some MBP
yes you are right!!!!!!
BUT...
do you think that we are going to see a macbook pro without a usb on the right side?:cool:

[DonSqueak]

I noticed the same. I wonder though, on my current MacBook the second-lowest row of keys, the one with the Shift buttons, has 11 standard-sized keys, while the new MB and MBP only have 10 of them - so I wonder which key is missing. I supposed it's the left one, the one with the two arrows < and > - but where did it go?

Doesn't have to be an American key layout. I have a Japanese one, which has more keys in one place and less in another. So this could well be a Chinese one or whatever.

[zio-gionni]

Seems quite straightforward to me, look at the symbols near the connectors.

The display port is obviously a MICRO-dvi connector as seen on the Macbook AIR, so not a MINI-DVI like in current macbook, you will need to buy a new adapter.

The first port is a mag-safe power connector (look at the symbol), rather than a fw800 port... so - assuming the taped port on the MBP15 case is a dual FW and not an e-sata - the MB13 would lack a firewire port, this will disappoint a lot of audio pros, sound engineer, musician, etc.

The mistery hole either is the IR port, or a new magsafe power adapter, this would change all my firewire speculations, but I don't believe that.

[narcotic]

yes you are right!!!!!!
BUT...
do you think that we are going to see a macbook pro without a usb on the right side?:cool:

no, I think it are all MB-cases. some in a premium proto-type-stage ? :)

[Mackan]

Did anyone guess what that covered port is for? Could it be the display port?

[richard.mac]

well on the right side of the estimated MBP there are no usb at all...

so I think that till now we have not seen yet a Macbook Pro case....:p

RoDe is right!

no! the MacBook Pro case pictured is exactly the same as the current (in terms of ports, not port layout) except its got one less Firewire port and a mini-DVI (supposedly) port. so its definitely the MBP!

what im thinking is Apple will drop the "Pro" name and just have a 13", 15" and 17" MacBook and then different specs for each size along with the MacBook Air. the MacBook Air will then become like the MacBook. this will justify the $800 price point and will narrow the price gap between the current MacBook Pro and MacBook because of the all aluminium design.

…

The first port is a mag-safe power connector (look at the symbol), rather than a fw800 port... so - assuming the taped port on the MBP15 case is a dual FW and not an e-sata - the MB13 would lack a firewire port, this will disappoint a lot of audio pros, sound engineer, musician, etc.

The mistery hole either is the IR port, or a new magsafe power adapter, this would change all my firewire speculations, but I don't believe that.

you are getting confused between the pictures. the Magsafe port has been cut off in the MacBook Pro picture (second image) and is a lot skinner as shown on the MacBook case picture (first image)… so there is an extra port in addition to Ethernet and Magsafe which im guessing from the square shape is Firewire.

139103 139102

[JG271]

thinking 'bout:
3,04GhZ
Standard 4GB Ram - upgrade to 8GB
1GB Vram
300GB 7200RPM HD
?

MBP right? :p
yeah its a possibility, probably the next upgrade after this one more likley. I don't know if intel have 3ghz+ laptop chips just yet, and if they do they'll only be in the high end model. Maybe 2.6 base 2.8 higher, then on the macbook 2.3 base and 2.5 higher.

[narcotic]

Did anyone guess what that covered port is for? Could it be the display port?

here will flip out an expandable 22" extern FULLHD display off course

[Cousin Dirk]

Has anyone else had the thought that neither of these two pictures could show the MacBook? Maybe there's a slightly smaller Pro in the offing. Or even vice-versa, there could be a bigger standard MacBook.

However, on the subject of ports... what are the two that I've circled on the picture below? One of them looks the sort of size and shape of a HDMI port to me.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3434/whattheil8.png

[narcotic]

MBP right? :p
yeah its a possibility, probably the next upgrade after this one more likley. I don't know if intel have 3ghz+ laptop chips just yet, and if they do they'll only be in the high end model. Maybe 2.6 base 2.8 higher, then on the macbook 2.3 base and 2.5 higher.

2.6 base MBP is too low and too close to a MB, that'll probably be 2,5 mid.

MBP will be 2,8 Low end.. mark my words!

[lsslbj]

PICTURES ARE STOLEN FROM HERE!!!

http://www.machome.com.cn/viewthread.php?tid=33055&extra=page%3D1%26amp%3Bfilter%3D0%26amp%3Borderby%3Ddateline%26amp%3Bascdesc%3DDESC

another URL: http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/66858.htm

the new mb, mbp and mba will be:
1 plastic 13.3' MB（original MB case）
2 aluminum 13.3'MB
3 aluminum15.4'MBP
4 aluminum17.1'MBP
5 aluminum Macbook Air（C case changed）

apple adopts the "brick" tech, which makes the cases thicker, but more resistant. they're more resisitant than previous MBP case, and if they fall, there would be only some scratches not big problem.

see here for mbp and mba photos:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6393150&postcount=281

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6393151&postcount=282

[plinkoman]

Did anyone guess what that covered port is for? Could it be the display port?

I don't think thats a port, just a piece of tape.

Everything else is accounted for. mini-dvi is the one between the usb and audio ports. firewire800 and ethernet are on the other side of the usb and magsafe is just off screen.

[Maxime]

Very good pics. it is both mb and pro one pic does not have speaker grill.

Looks like speaker grills to me on the MB Pro. :confused:

[MasterNile]

I don't think thats a port, just a piece of tape.

No you can see a black part where there's a hole in the casing under the tape, it's definitely something.

[surrelmar]

PICTURES ARE STOLEN FROM HERE!!!

the new mb, mbp and mba will be:
1 plastic 13.3' MB（original MB case）
2 aluminum 13.3'MB
3 aluminum15.4'MBP
4 aluminum17.1'MBP
5 aluminum Macbook Air（C case changed）

This seems VERY logical to me. Just one new big line where notebooks aren't different anymore. Everything looks more the same and awesome. The MBA pictures weren't seen on the homepage yet so this completes the whole picture line.

And it looks like the new port could be some sort of HDMI port (for the Blu-Ray drive!)

What makes the price differences then is what's inside and which size it is.

[overanalyzer]

http://gizmodo.com/assets/images/gallery/4/2008/01/medium_2162321828_45eb2310d3_o.jpg

Anyone remember this patent?

All the port are now on the left side of the MacBook's according to this article...

Coincidence?

I'd love it to be true!

How about merging this idea with ACD and The new TV Rumor :D

Cool, but not happening probably, though I wouldn't put it past them.

I had the exact same thought while I was reading this, and remembered that patent file picture. It could all just be coincidence, but rumors of them working on some kind of display and the move of all the ports to one side would make it more feasible that patent will see the light of day. Add in the Blu Ray rumors and the new Apple vision for your living room might be a TV with a dock for your MB/MBP and your iPhone/iPod Touch as the remote. Or a cinema display/dock and wireless connectivity to the new Apple HDTV, which would make even more sense.

[narcotic]

No you can see a black part where there's a hole in the casing under the tape, it's definitely something.

maybe a DVI port?

[iEdd]

I don't think thats a port, just a piece of tape.

Everything else is accounted for. mini-dvi is the one between the usb and audio ports. firewire800 and ethernet are on the other side of the usb and magsafe is just off screen.

I think it IS a port, or a slot to store the Apple remote (maybe too small, hard to get a sense of scale as everything looks bigger than it is). EDIT: Although the placing is odd, it looks a lot like Displayport.

Also, mini-DVI is too large (bigger than USB). Micro-DVI is more likely.

I read on wiki that FireWire can use the RJ-45 interface. Is it possible that Apple have created an Ethernet/Firewire 800 port on the standard MacBook, so it is adaptable?

Oh and please, please anodise different colours. Make the MBP anodised black or something, or product red! :D

[djellison]

So I plug in my SD card reader

https://www.etechisland.com/images/card_reader_-_sandisk_micromate_2.jpg

And boom

I drop one USB port and my network cable, or potentially the Mini-DVI

Seriously - would it be the end of the world to spread things about a bit SO WE CAN DAMN WELL USE THEM!

Epic usability fail. I have to unplug my current MBP every time I want to use my SD card reader. Give them a bit of room to breath.

How's is the screen hinge? Still paralized unlike any other laptop I know?

How's MBP HDD removal? Still giving 'pro' users the shaft?

And as for the manufacturing technique, and all this talk of water jets, and laser machining..... complete crap - they've just taken it from a bucket with keyboad-on-the-lid, to bucket-with-keyboard-on-the-bottom. Nothing dramatic at all.

[pik.]

no! the MacBook Pro case pictured is exactly the same as the current (in terms of connections) except its got one less Firewire port and a mini-DVI (supposedly) port. so its definitely the MBP!

what im thinking is Apple will drop the "Pro" name and just have a 13", 15" and 17" MacBook and then different specs for each size along with the MacBook Air. the MacBook Air will then become like the MacBook. this will justify the $800 price point and will narrow the price gap between the current MacBook Pro and MacBook because of the all aluminium design.
15 MBP with no USB on the right ?

i want usb on both the sides of my computer...
so I think this is a macbook...

otherwise we have an issue....:p

[plinkoman]

No you can see a black part where there's a hole in the casing under the tape, it's definitely something.

I see exactly what you see, but I do not interpret the darker area on the tape as evidence of a hole beneath it. They would not put a port so far forward, and everything had been accounted for already. I definitely think it is nothing more than a piece of tape.

[iEdd]

I see exactly what you see, but I do not interpret the darker area on the tape as evidence of a hole beneath it. They would not put a port so far forward, and everything had been accounted for already. I definitely think it is nothing more than a piece of tape.

You can see the outline of where the punched hole has been finished and the table through the tape. Whether it is an I/O port or not, there's definitely a hole. Look again.

[jbgh]

How's is the screen hinge? Still paralized unlike any other laptop I know?

you have got to be kidding, its the only laptop with a good screen hinge.

it puts the fans and speaker grilles out of the way and lowers the screen height!

the only reason you would ever want to fold your laptop lid back horizontal would be that you're an idiot, and therefore deserve a pc

[Mugs]

hey guys sorry someone has said this or its totally wrong but I was wondering if maybe the port we think is ethernet on both the MB and MBP is actually a firewire one, thus meaning there is no ethernet and one FW on the MB and two (different types) on the MBP. Then they could include a usb to ethernet adapter like the MBA? I probably wrong but I just thought it was an idea. I wasnt sure if it is definitely a ethernet port. What do you think?

[MasterNile]

I see exactly what you see, but I do not interpret the darker area on the tape as evidence of a hole beneath it. They would not put a port so far forward, and everything had been accounted for already. I definitely think it is nothing more than a piece of tape.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc34/masternihilistic/Tape.png

In this image of the inside of the case you see what looks to me to be a different piece of tape in the same spot, as iEdd said, I don't know if it is a port or what kind but I'm pretty sure there's a hole there

[some12b]

All this is very exciting and all, but does anyone know whether the Intel Core i7 will be used? Will the rumoured NVIDIA chipset support the i7?

[iEdd]

Mugs, I was going to suggest that. Unfortunately by looking at the ports, the ethernet logo suggests that the smaller* laptop has no firewire.

*I say smaller because it is possible that these are both MacBooks, neither being the 'Pro'.

[229dan229]

To me, the port covered with tape looks like a HDMI port.

[DonSqueak]

hey guys sorry someone has said this or its totally wrong but I was wondering if maybe the port we think is ethernet on both the MB and MBP is actually a firewire one, thus meaning there is no ethernet and one FW on the MB and two (different types) on the MBP. Then they could include a usb to ethernet adapter like the MBA? I probably wrong but I just thought it was an idea. I wasnt sure if it is definitely a ethernet port. What do you think?

The symbols next to the ports say otherwise.

[Kobekes]

indeed a strange connection (5th from left)

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo2/kobekes/macbook_connection.jpg

[richard.mac]

15 MBP with no USB on the right ?

i want usb on both the sides of my computer...
so I think this is a macbook...

otherwise we have an issue....:p

take a look at all the pics on page 6. the MacBook Pro has the speaker grill and the MacBook doesnt. both have only an optical drive on the RHS.

[FabriceH]

hey guys sorry someone has said this or its totally wrong but I was wondering if maybe the port we think is ethernet on both the MB and MBP is actually a firewire one, thus meaning there is no ethernet and one FW on the MB and two (different types) on the MBP. Then they could include a usb to ethernet adapter like the MBA? I probably wrong but I just thought it was an idea. I wasnt sure if it is definitely a ethernet port. What do you think?

I meant that a few pages ago, but isn't there an ethernet-symbol at this port?

[spectral]

All this is very exciting and all, but does anyone know whether the Intel Core i7 will be used? Will the rumoured NVIDIA chipset support the i7?

Core i7 for notebooks isn't going to be around until late 2009, if I recall correctly. I doubt Intel is going to release Core i7 in notebooks just for apple several months before they get a working desktop version out.

[jkester]

If we're sure the hole's there, I think it might be a side latch to release part of the bottom i.e. the battery and /or hard drive enclosure or something like that. Thoughts?