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Oct 13, 2008, 03:50 PM
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Apple will be holding a special media event on Tuesday, October 14th at 10AM Pacific in Cupertino, California.

Apple has made it clear (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/09/apple-invites-media-to-notebook-event-october-14th/) that the event will focus on notebook computers. In addition, a leaked Apple support document (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/12/apple-document-confirms-macbook-macbook-pro-late-2008/) confirms that "late 2008" MacBooks and MacBook Pros will be amongst the products announced. While there's been no definite word about MacBook Air updates, it seems reasonable to expect that MacBook Airs could also be updated to latest Intel processors (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/08/22/intel-unveils-update-to-macbook-airs-custom-processor/).

MacBooks and MacBook Pros

Apple last updated both the MacBooks and MacBook Pros in February of this year (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/26/apple-releases-new-penryn-based-macbooks/). The MacBook update was a bit of a surprise as the product line had just been refreshed 5 months prior. Rumors suggested that this represented an interim update to keep the MacBook in line with the current Intel processors and that more substantial updates would come later in the year.

AppleInsider first reported (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/07/apple-notebooks-to-see-major-design-changes/) in April that the new notebooks would see "major design changes" to bring it closer to the MacBook Air and iMac designs.

Case Leaks

There have been a surprising number of case photo leaks from Taiwanese and Chinese sites over the past few months. The first leak from Apple.pro (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/07/aluminum-macbook-pro-case-photo/) in July claimed to show a tapered MacBook Pro bottom and top. Though we were initially skeptical of the leak, AppleInsider has confirmed (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/09/leaked-macbook-pro-casing-confirmed/) that it is legitimate. Apple.pro later posted (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/08/04/leaked-aluminum-macbook-case/) photos of the top and bottom of the MacBook cases as well as a a video (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/10/two-tone-macbooks-and-a-questionable-macbook-video/), though the authenticity of these images are still in doubt.

The most convincing leak (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/12/higher-quality-macbook-pro-case-photos/) came just days ago from MacX.cn (there is a claim that MacHome.com.cn (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6393050&postcount=227) is original source). Case images of both MacBook and MacBook Pro were detailed from many different angles and are believed to be real. The images suggest (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/13/macbook-and-macbook-pro-port-speculation/) that the MacBook will not include a Firewire port.

Brick, Glass, Two Tone

9to5Mac seems to be standing alone with these rumors, which have not been corroborated by any other sources. After weeks of speculation (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/09/22/macbook-brick-codename-speculation/) about the "brick" codename, 9to5Mac believes that this refers (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/04/brick-refers-to-the-macbook-manufacturing-process/) to the manufacturing process for the new notebooks. Other claims have included the use of a glass trackpad (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/28/next-macbook-to-include-glass-trackpad-due-in-september/) and the use of both plastic and aluminum to produce a two-tone appearance (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/10/two-tone-macbooks-and-a-questionable-macbook-video/) in the MacBook.

While 9to5Mac has had accuracy with iPod rumors in the past, they were somewhat misguided (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/22/new-ipod-nanos-to-be-multicolored/) in their Rainbow iPod rumor.

NVIDIA

Perhaps one of the most welcome changes to the Apple MacBook will be the rumored inclusion of NVIDIA chipsets and GPUs. The NVIDIA chipsets (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/11/apple-migrating-to-nvidia-chipsets-in-new-macbooks/) are said to provide a smaller footprint and significantly better graphics performance when compared to Intel's offerings.

Other Possibilities

- $800 Apple Laptop? (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/09/apple-to-launch-an-800-laptop/)
- Networked HDTV from Apple (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/11/macbook-with-blu-ray-networked-hdtv-from-apple/)
- Blu Ray support (http://www.edibleapple.com/kevin-rose-drops-macbook-blu-ray-rumor-at-live-diggnation-event/) from Kevin Rose, though we heard that Rose described his source as a "bad" one during the taping, so didn't offer much confidence in the possiblity
- One image (http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/10/13/164257--data-uploads5--2008-10-13-0-1223891503_2.jpg) later posted to the MacX.cn photo set depicts what the MacBook Pro would look like with a trackpad and keyboard in place. This is a confirmed Photoshop mockup and does not represent the actual product.

Coverage

We'll be providing SMS/Twitter coverage for the event at http://twitter.com/macrumors. To follow MacRumors news stories on Twitter, follow http://twitter.com/macrumorsrss.

We will provide links to live text and photo coverage of the event as it approaches. There is no live video stream available, but Apple will likely post a video online after the event. If you prefer to watch the video without prior knowledge of the announcements you can sign up for Spoiler Free coverage (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/13/notebook-event-spoiler-free-keynote-stream/).



Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/13/apple-notebook-event-rumor-roundup/)



Stang68
Oct 13, 2008, 03:50 PM
Tomorrow is gonna be a good day...




...hopefully :)

rrijkers
Oct 13, 2008, 03:51 PM
Seriously, I can't wait!

cdbob
Oct 13, 2008, 03:52 PM
Can't wait for tomorrow!

JG271
Oct 13, 2008, 03:54 PM
Should be good tomorrow! I'll be ready to buy, although it looks like the prices won't change :( (http://9to5mac.com/macbooks-same-price-points)

840quadra
Oct 13, 2008, 03:55 PM
Thanks for the roundup. Hopefully people canconsolodate their last minute questions here, as opposed to the many other highly active threads posted recently!

Looking forward to seeing what I intend to order this week.

840

arn
Oct 13, 2008, 03:55 PM
Should be good tomorrow! I'll be ready to buy, although it looks like the prices won't change :( (http://9to5mac.com/macbooks-same-price-points)

Best Buy doesn't have any early knowledge of the prices. those are pure placeholders.

arn

aleksandra.
Oct 13, 2008, 03:56 PM
Twenty hours.

nnkd
Oct 13, 2008, 03:57 PM
Add me to the "I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!" list.

It'll be nice to get a replacement for my PB G4 and it's 24-7 noise (the fan that spins at 10000 rpm constantly may be somewhat to blame though).
:D

Eidorian
Oct 13, 2008, 03:57 PM
I'll be gaming to pass the time.

More job interviews later this week after the notebook event. :D

sfwalter
Oct 13, 2008, 03:57 PM
I wonder if macrumors will break Twitter. :D

manhattanboy
Oct 13, 2008, 03:57 PM
here's hoping for a "$800 Apple Laptop?" that is actually a Mac tablet!
But I'm not holding my breath...

corinhorn
Oct 13, 2008, 03:57 PM
Looking forward to seeing what I intend to order this week.


If they are available for order at all. They may not be available for a while

Peace
Oct 13, 2008, 03:59 PM
If they are available for order at all


If earlier rumors of Macbooks being shipped here means anything I'd guess availability Wednesday.

PeckhamBog
Oct 13, 2008, 04:00 PM
Are you suggesting the new macBook will be significantly slimmed down because of the chip set? Same foot print becase of the same screen diagonal, but thinner and lighter?

ThinkBrilliant
Oct 13, 2008, 04:00 PM
What we expect to see:

• Macbook Pro - new keyboard, overhauled case design, refined (major inspiration from Macbook Air), SSD options, magnetic latch, reconfigured ports, black bezel around the screen, possible aspect ratio changes, possible increased multi-touch gestures, possible larger trackpad

• Macbook - overhauled case design, move to aluminum, possible addition of multi-touch gestures to trackpad, possible larger trackpad, reconfigured ports, general attempt at a more high-end feel

• Macbook Air - briefly mentioned, spec updates, overall performance increase, storage boosts, possible but unlikely case refinements, possible price reduction

Across the board:

• Aggressive price points
• Unified look across entire notebook line (Aluminum)
• Standardization of parts for easier production
• LED’s

Probable:

• Inclusion of NVIDIA chipsets, specifically targeted towards reduced power consumption
• Ramp up of LED inclusion/production

Not Likely:

• Tablet notebook, multi-touch netbook
• Blu-Ray integration
• multi-touch glass trackpad
• re-introduction of 12″ G4 powerbook (comparable model)
• unification of entire notebook line (as in calling them all macbook’s and dropping the “pro”)
• LED keyboard

JG271
Oct 13, 2008, 04:01 PM
Best Buy doesn't have any early knowledge of the prices. those are pure placeholders.

arn

Great, still a possibility of lower prices then! Thanks arn.

Spock
Oct 13, 2008, 04:01 PM
The next 20 hours are going to drive me crazy! I need to update my G4!

PeckhamBog
Oct 13, 2008, 04:02 PM
Are you suggesting the new MacBook will be significantly slimmed down because of the chip set? Same foot print becase of the same screen diagonal, but thinner and lighter?

gog
Oct 13, 2008, 04:03 PM
All up, Great work MR!

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 04:03 PM
Blu-ray:
Plausible or not?

CBillups1
Oct 13, 2008, 04:03 PM
cant freakin wait!

twoodcc
Oct 13, 2008, 04:05 PM
so i guess no tablet tomorrow?

DanielJvdBerg
Oct 13, 2008, 04:05 PM
Blu-ray:
Plausible or not?

I say plausible.

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 04:05 PM
I would love if the price drop to below $1000 for the base model and if the base model actually became comparable to PC's spec-wise of that same price range.

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 04:05 PM
Also, can Cinema Displays can be "silently" updated as well?

mogzieee
Oct 13, 2008, 04:06 PM
tension..... TENSION!!!!

bregetabond
Oct 13, 2008, 04:07 PM
I'm proper sycked about tomorrow! Aluminum macbooks mmmm. :D

A few questions
If they are available to buy straight away (online) will there be limited
availability or will everyone be able to get one easily?
Also does anyone have any idea of the event time (BST)

jbrenn
Oct 13, 2008, 04:08 PM
What we expect to see:

• Macbook Pro - new keyboard, overhauled case design, refined (major inspiration from Macbook Air), SSD options, magnetic latch, reconfigured ports, black bezel around the screen, possible aspect ratio changes, possible increased multi-touch gestures, possible larger trackpad

• Macbook - overhauled case design, move to aluminum, possible addition of multi-touch gestures to trackpad, possible larger trackpad, reconfigured ports, general attempt at a more high-end feel

• Macbook Air - briefly mentioned, spec updates, overall performance increase, storage boosts, possible but unlikely case refinements, possible price reduction

Across the board:

• Aggressive price points
• Unified look across entire notebook line (Aluminum)
• Standardization of parts for easier production
• LED’s

Probable:

• Inclusion of NVIDIA chipsets, specifically targeted towards reduced power consumption
• Ramp up of LED inclusion/production

Not Likely:

• Tablet notebook, multi-touch netbook
• Blu-Ray integration
• multi-touch glass trackpad
• re-introduction of 12″ G4 powerbook (comparable model)
• unification of entire notebook line (as in calling them all macbook’s and dropping the “pro”)
• LED keyboard
they will not drop the pro look at the front page directions for airport card in mb and mbp

highjumppudding
Oct 13, 2008, 04:08 PM
i have a feeling that we will be disappointed tomorrow... we will see.

EMT123
Oct 13, 2008, 04:08 PM
Does anyone remember the article that posted a while back that stated Apple would be releasing something that was "sick", "priced to sell" and would "sell like hot cakes" ??? Could Tuesday be what it was all about?

ThinkBrilliant
Oct 13, 2008, 04:09 PM
"Mac Soda has heard that iLife ’09 and iWork ’09 are going to be announced this Tuesday at the MacBook event. Similar to last year, when Steve introduced the iMac, and then branched off into the iLife and iWork updates, Steve is expected to do the same thing this year, announcing the iLife/iWork update with the introduction of the new laptops."

This is complete ********. No new versions of iLife or iWork tomorrow. -- John Gruber (http://daringfireball.net/)

pgifford
Oct 13, 2008, 04:10 PM
I won't be able to sleep tonight!

I can almost taste my new MBP!

andreab35
Oct 13, 2008, 04:10 PM
Man I can't wait!

I'm crossing my fingers for the Air! If the update happens, maybe I will purchase at around the end of the year!

Tomorrow is going to be a great day everyone!

:D

iPaf
Oct 13, 2008, 04:10 PM
What we expect to see:

• Macbook Pro - new keyboard, overhauled case design, refined (major inspiration from Macbook Air), SSD options, magnetic latch, reconfigured ports, black bezel around the screen, possible aspect ratio changes, possible increased multi-touch gestures, possible larger trackpad

• Macbook - overhauled case design, move to aluminum, possible addition of multi-touch gestures to trackpad, possible larger trackpad, reconfigured ports, general attempt at a more high-end feel

• Macbook Air - briefly mentioned, spec updates, overall performance increase, storage boosts, possible but unlikely case refinements, possible price reduction

Across the board:

• Aggressive price points
• Unified look across entire notebook line (Aluminum)
• Standardization of parts for easier production
• LED’s

Probable:

• Inclusion of NVIDIA chipsets, specifically targeted towards reduced power consumption
• Ramp up of LED inclusion/production

Not Likely:

• Tablet notebook, multi-touch netbook
• Blu-Ray integration
• multi-touch glass trackpad
• re-introduction of 12″ G4 powerbook (comparable model)
• unification of entire notebook line (as in calling them all macbook’s and dropping the “pro”)
• LED keyboard

Are you working for Apple... ?

You're so good to me :D

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 04:11 PM
Tomorrow is going to be a great day everyone!

:D

But always expect some whiners.
It can be human nature to whine.

unkle77
Oct 13, 2008, 04:11 PM
Best Buy doesn't have any early knowledge of the prices. those are pure placeholders.

arn

willing to bet that Best Buy will not have them at least for another month.

corinhorn
Oct 13, 2008, 04:12 PM
Also, can Cinema Displays can be "silently" updated as well?

Of corse

Omni Geno
Oct 13, 2008, 04:12 PM
One thing I've noticed is that aside from the Nvidia "rumors," there hasn't been much talk about what's going to be different on the inside of the new laptops.

pik.
Oct 13, 2008, 04:12 PM
tension..... TENSION!!!!

+100000:D

corinhorn
Oct 13, 2008, 04:13 PM
I'm proper sycked about tomorrow! Aluminum macbooks mmmm. :D

A few questions
If they are available to buy straight away (online) will there be limited
availability or will everyone be able to get one easily?
Also does anyone have any idea of the event time (BST)

First come first serve.

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 04:15 PM
One thing I've noticed is that aside from the Nvidia "rumors," there hasn't been much talk about what's going to be different on the inside of the new laptops.

Different chip-sets from the current Intel chip-sets.

Beric
Oct 13, 2008, 04:15 PM
But always expect some whiners.
It can be human nature to whine.

I have certain things I need/want. If Apple doesn't deliver them, how can I help but complain?

mogzieee
Oct 13, 2008, 04:15 PM
Also does anyone have any idea of the event time (BST)

6 in the evening mate.

corinhorn
Oct 13, 2008, 04:16 PM
I won't be able to sleep tonight!

I can almost taste my new MBP!It will taste better marinated.

ThinkBrilliant
Oct 13, 2008, 04:17 PM
We're not getting Cinema Displays and we're not going to see a new tablet/touch mac. It's just not going to happen.

All of the updates are going to be relatively mainstream and keep in line with fundamental pushes in the notebook line. Nothing crazy and out of the ordinary.

navier-stokes
Oct 13, 2008, 04:18 PM
As long as the macbook is being updated to aluminium i'm buying... I've waited all summer for my conversion from pc to mac!

My question is, what's usally the quickest way of getting one after the keynote?

Do I order online or buy in store?

I guess ordering online will take over a week right?

But if I buy in store I'll only be able to get the pre-configured models?

UK stores are unlikely to have any in store tomorrow as the keynote speach will probably finish after shops shut here I'm guessing.

Only tomorrow knows, but I'm hungry for my first mac!

Spock
Oct 13, 2008, 04:18 PM
I find it hard to believe that Apple will put blue ray in the portable line before desktops but not impossible I guess.

themoonisdown09
Oct 13, 2008, 04:18 PM
Who wants to agree with me that the lowest-end Macbook will still have a combo drive?

137489
Oct 13, 2008, 04:18 PM
oh man, I have a dentist appt tomorrow and will be in the chair at this time... arg, I will have to catch the wrap-up 3 hrs after everyone when I am back home.

Well my hopes are:

1. tablet / Dock
2. Some sort of dock for current macbooks.
3. lower price points as I have several friends needing a mac, but $1000 is out of their price range.

Other than that - I have all I need at the moment...

ok, so new ipods in Sept.
New notebooks in October
something for Christmas.

Just leave one thing? What are they going to blow us out of the water with in January....

these media events always leave a disappointing "one more thing" that never came. so they gotta be holding something for macworld:

HDTV with apple TV and blu-ray - $2000 ?

Beric
Oct 13, 2008, 04:19 PM
Who wants to agree with me that the lowest-end Macbook will still have a combo drive?

I will. And that combo drive will cost Apple more than a Superdrive would. :rolleyes:

sam223
Oct 13, 2008, 04:19 PM
UPDATE (10/13/08): I just got an update from a source that gave us new information about the updated MacBook Air. Apparently, a new MacBook Air will be announced and shown at the event but it won't be available until January 2009. The MacBook and MacBook Pro will be available almost immediately.

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=626#more

mogzieee
Oct 13, 2008, 04:20 PM
We're not getting Cinema Displays and we're not going to see a new tablet/touch mac. It's just not going to happen.

All of the updates are going to be relatively mainstream and keep in line with fundamental pushes in the notebook line. Nothing crazy and out of the ordinary.

Agreed. Tomorrow Apple will release a new MacBook and a new MacBook Pro, and possibly an upgrade to the Air. Nothing more, nothing less. That is it. Period.

ReEIsS
Oct 13, 2008, 04:20 PM
Can't wait!

EMT123
Oct 13, 2008, 04:21 PM
Who wants to agree with me that the lowest-end Macbook will still have a combo drive?

That proposition has been made several times over............

Beric
Oct 13, 2008, 04:21 PM
UPDATE (10/13/08): I just got an update from a source that gave us new information about the updated MacBook Air. Apparently, a new MacBook Air will be announced and shown at the event but it won't be available until January 2009. The MacBook and MacBook Pro will be available almost immediately.

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=626#more

That might make sense. We can only see, though.

Spock
Oct 13, 2008, 04:21 PM
Who wants to agree with me that the lowest-end Macbook will still have a combo drive?

With no FireWire and still using a combo drive would be a very stupid move, I can get a $499 Office Depot special with a "Superdrive"

macbook123
Oct 13, 2008, 04:24 PM
I notice that we haven't heard of shipments arriving at stores yet. At this point, less than 20 hours before the announcement, does this mean there will be a delay, as with the first MBP or with the iPhone?

To play the devils advocate, I guess it would make sense for them to announce now, even if they only ship in November. This way they make sure that shoppers don't spend their money on other things before Christmas.

MacTCP
Oct 13, 2008, 04:25 PM
I really hope there will be a silent mini update. :D

iGary
Oct 13, 2008, 04:25 PM
Interesting no one has been talking about what chipset they will use and at what speeds...

Chipheads?

IrishMac
Oct 13, 2008, 04:27 PM
If Apple do offer Blu-ray on the MB & MB Pro tomorrow then it makes sense they'll "quietly" update the iMac and Mac Pro lines as well, probably later in the week.

OllyW
Oct 13, 2008, 04:28 PM
UPDATE (10/13/08): I just got an update from a source that gave us new information about the updated MacBook Air. Apparently, a new MacBook Air will be announced and shown at the event but it won't be available until January 2009. The MacBook and MacBook Pro will be available almost immediately.

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=626#more

That sounds like a really good plan. Kill sales of the MacBook Air over the Christmas period. :rolleyes:

EMT123
Oct 13, 2008, 04:29 PM
Interesting no one has been talking about what chipset they will use and at what speeds...

Chipheads?

ummmmmm???????? http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/11/apple-migrating-to-nvidia-chipsets-in-new-macbooks/

gadgetgirl85
Oct 13, 2008, 04:32 PM
I'm going to try and set my max price at $2500 Australian. Hopefully that will get me a nice top end MB or low end MBP (I'd love if I could get Applecare in that). I want to get another student discount but I got one in Feb :(

840quadra
Oct 13, 2008, 04:33 PM
Interesting no one has been talking about what chipset they will use and at what speeds...

Chipheads?

shh!

That is way too technical for my eyes! I only care about color, and what type of seam the new MBP has.

http://forums.macrumors.com/image.php?u=47064&dateline=1165207334&type=profile


ummmmmm???????? http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/11/apple-migrating-to-nvidia-chipsets-in-new-macbooks/

Correct me if I am wrong iGary, but I believe the context of his post was this , not the entire macrumors www.

The Samurai
Oct 13, 2008, 04:35 PM
Spoke to a member of the staff at the Regent Street Apple Store earlier in the day and he said that new products are available for sale the next day, in this case Wednesday. Whilst he didn't confirm new notebooks were coming out, obviously they are... makes me wonder if they will ever learn. Hate this whole idea about "we find out the same day as you do".

discostu668
Oct 13, 2008, 04:36 PM
Blu-ray:
Plausible or not?

no.

just..... drop the blu-ray already.

Johnpartridge
Oct 13, 2008, 04:37 PM
Steve comes on stage,

- Talks about the Air, its success, its design, its manufacturing process, benefits of using aluminium etc.

- Introduces slightly upgraded spec, and slight price drop.

- Moves onto the Macbook, shows how its evolved from the iBook through the to current Macbook, discusses how apple has always been at the front of design.

- Announces new styled macbook, exactly as expected, Larger trackpad, Multi touch gestures, Black backlit keyboard. Reduced price points. There is a method for firewire usage. Uses display port connector. Superdrive as standard.

- Moves on to discuss Macbook Pro, announces new production methods using laser cut one piece aluminium frame (same as macbook manufacturing) Also discusses the merging of parts between notebook lines, leading to reduced costs for notebooks.

- Announces new Macbook Pro, same styling as the new Macbook, Firewire is on this device. Reduced pricing also. But still premium pricing strategy (no massive price cuts to below current market level). Available with SSD.

- Final discussion - Blu Ray, discusses how Apple has supported this from the beginning, now available on Macs running 10.5.6 (available after keynote) And Blue Ray disc drive available in both Macbook and Macbook Pro models for a premium price.

No one more thing.

End

**note, no crazy launch of touch based Macs or Cinema displays or Tv's or Docks. Dont get your hopes up for these, Macrumors doesnt need a million, "why didn't apple launch ...... I hate apple now!" posts this time tomorrow. This is a Notebook event only **

My Thoughts.
JP

iGary
Oct 13, 2008, 04:38 PM
ummmmmm???????? http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/11/apple-migrating-to-nvidia-chipsets-in-new-macbooks/

MacBook Pros.

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 04:38 PM
Who wants to agree with me that the lowest-end Macbook will still have a combo drive?

I'll agree. Apple's acting just plain dumb not offering a Superdrive in the low end MacBook now. And if they continue not to offer one in the lowest end MacBook, then they may have just shot themselves in the foot.

Aperture
Oct 13, 2008, 04:38 PM
Spoke to a member of the staff at the Regent Street Apple Store earlier in the day and he said that new products are available for sale the next day, in this case Wednesday. Whilst he didn't confirm new notebooks were coming out, obviously they are... makes me wonder if they will ever learn. Hate this whole idea about "we find out the same day as you do".

I thought Steve said (in reference to the new Nanos) that you can expect to see them in stores by the weekend? (in other words, not tomorrow) So, I don't think that new products are always available next day.

discostu668
Oct 13, 2008, 04:38 PM
i have a feeling that we will be disappointed tomorrow... we will see.

disappointed how?

digitalbiker
Oct 13, 2008, 04:39 PM
UPDATE (10/13/08): I just got an update from a source that gave us new information about the updated MacBook Air. Apparently, a new MacBook Air will be announced and shown at the event but it won't be available until January 2009. The MacBook and MacBook Pro will be available almost immediately.

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=626#more

This sounds completely ridiculous!

Why would Apple announce and show a new MBA now and kill all sales for the next 3 months of the current MBA? Especially right before Christmas in a down economy.

If Apple were going to release a new MBA in January, wouldn't it make a lot more sense for Apple to announce the new MBA at MWSF2009 in early January?

I expect the entire line of Apple Notebooks to be updated at this event with release shortly or immediately after the event.

danjhoros
Oct 13, 2008, 04:39 PM
OMG! I CAN'T WAIT!:apple:

navier-stokes
Oct 13, 2008, 04:40 PM
Spoke to a member of the staff at the Regent Street Apple Store earlier in the day and he said that new products are available for sale the next day, in this case Wednesday. Whilst he didn't confirm new notebooks were coming out, obviously they are... makes me wonder if they will ever learn. Hate this whole idea about "we find out the same day as you do".

Interesting, I asked in there today too and got the usual response... you obviously got a little more out of them.

I can't decide whether to order online or get one from there... (Assuming online will be immediate + delivery time and instore will be Wednesday)

azentropy
Oct 13, 2008, 04:41 PM
I'm really excited, but also extremely nervous. If Apple does drop Firewire from the 13" Macbook and/or doesn't offer Firewire in a small enclosure < $1500 I'll have to look at other options... like I did for my Desktop when Apple continued to ignore the users who need a true Desktop (not a mini using notebook parts, an all-in-one using notebook parts, or a > $2300 workstation) and I couldn't wait any longer.

I love the OS and have owned about two dozen different Macs over the years, but their hardware lately has been extremely disappointing to me.

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 04:41 PM
As for the 16:9 ratio vs 16:10 ratio debate, what do you ladies and gentlemen expect?

discostu668
Oct 13, 2008, 04:41 PM
oh man, I have a dentist appt tomorrow and will be in the chair at this time... arg, I will have to catch the wrap-up 3 hrs after everyone when I am back home.

Well my hopes are:

1. tablet / Dock

NO TABLET, EITHER.

thenightstalker
Oct 13, 2008, 04:42 PM
As for the 16:9 ratio vs 16:10 ratio debate, what do you ladies and gentlemen expect?

16:10. I still dont get where you got youre "ITS GOING TO BE 16:9!!!!!!!" rants.

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 04:44 PM
16:10. I still dont get where you got youre "ITS GOING TO BE 16:9!!!!!!!" rants.

Yeah, really. 16:10 is better for those who use their computers for jobs in which they need every pixel they can get. If you want a 16:9 display so badly, get an external in that ratio. I know that's not a good solution, but neither is bitching about something that's rather silly and will never happen.

P.S. Watch Apple come out with 16:9 displays tomorrow just to piss me off and make me look stupid... ;)

paulbiscardi
Oct 13, 2008, 04:46 PM
You know, the MobileMe feature that was dropped. We were promised it would return. Now I'm experiencing an error where I see the link to share files inside of idisk.

I just posted about this here:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=579843

anyone think it's likely, given the error I'm experiencing?

rikers_mailbox
Oct 13, 2008, 04:46 PM
Perhaps tomorrow will finally bring a Mac notebook worthy of replacing my 12" PB.. 4+ years old and still going strong. IMO, the best little notebook Apple has produced.

pik.
Oct 13, 2008, 04:47 PM
so many hopes and wishes....

santa Steve is going to make happy only one...HIMSELF.....:p

DTMoody
Oct 13, 2008, 04:47 PM
jpmittins: P.S. Watch Apple come out with 16:9 displays tomorrow just to piss me off and make me look stupid... ;)


I hear ya buddy...lol:D

corinhorn
Oct 13, 2008, 04:47 PM
As for the 16:9 ratio vs 16:10 ratio debate, what do you ladies and gentlemen expect?16:10

ubercool
Oct 13, 2008, 04:49 PM
But always expect some whiners.
It can be human nature to whine.

But we have reservations! :D:D:D:p:cool:

Aranince
Oct 13, 2008, 04:49 PM
I'm really hoping Apple puts in a high resolution display. 15" at 1680x1050 would rock, 1920x1200 would be better. No more 1440x900 Apple! Please!

Yixian
Oct 13, 2008, 04:50 PM
There's a *cough*"thin"*cough* chance that the MacBook Pros will actually be a pleasant surprise rather than an expected disappointment, spec wise, but who knows.

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 04:51 PM
jpmittins: P.S. Watch Apple come out with 16:9 displays tomorrow just to piss me off and make me look stupid... ;)


I hear ya buddy...lol:D

I kind of hope Jobs will just do some sort of silly little monkey dance and all that will happen is that the laptops get minor upgrades. Wouldn't that be funny to watch? Oh, would MacRumors be filled with forum tears and complaints! Anyway...

Just my weird sense of humor.

DTMoody
Oct 13, 2008, 04:52 PM
Well, I really do not care what size screen they come with, glass or no glass trackpad, firewire or not, blu-ray; not all that interested. Just want a good product that's runs well for college... However, I would REALLY like to know the price points and configs for each.

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 04:53 PM
I'm really hoping Apple puts in a high resolution display. 15" at 1680x1050 would rock, 1920x1200 would be better. No more 1440x900 Apple! Please!

What is the deal with people wanting super high resolutions on such tiny screens? I don't think I could handle a 1680x1050 on a 15" display; when I first got my iMac, I almost couldn't stand that resolution on a 20" screen.

thenightstalker
Oct 13, 2008, 04:53 PM
I kind of hope Jobs will just do some sort of silly little monkey dance and all that will happen is that the laptops get minor upgrades. Wouldn't that be funny to watch? Oh, would MacRumors be filled with forum tears and complaints! Anyway...

Just my weird sense of humor.

Even if he does show a 16:9 laptop I wont feel dumb as there has been NO indication that they would be that ratio nor is there good reason to make it that ratio.

Lucky A
Oct 13, 2008, 04:54 PM
Tonight is the Christmas night in the Appleland! All the kids are wondering - what will they find under the Christmas tree come tomorrow morning? Did Santainaturtleneck get their wish lists right?! And then, of course, there are naughty boys and girls who already peeked at their gifts when nobody was looking! :D

twilsonchicago
Oct 13, 2008, 04:55 PM
I looked closely at the leaked case pix, and I looked closely at the docking station patent filing and I'm convinced we will see dockable Mac portables tomorrow, and that an integrated display/docking station will be announced.

-T

ryanwarsaw
Oct 13, 2008, 04:55 PM
I will. And that combo drive will cost Apple more than a Superdrive would. :rolleyes:

Say it ain't so, Joe.

duncyboy
Oct 13, 2008, 04:56 PM
I'm not in the market for any kind of laptop/notebook at the moment but I'm going to be very interested to see what Apple unveil tomorrow:

A) Apple events are always interesting and I always love seeing their new designs

B) There's always something to divide opinion like the dropping of the high-capacity iPod Classic that'll be debated

C) Most interesting of all will be the price points: will they release this alleged $800 notebook? Is that what the no-Firewire shots are of? A slimmed down, low-spec entry-level laptop?

D) I'll be gobsmacked if the AppleTV rumour is true. I just honestly can't see it.

It'll all be underway 6pm my time tomorrow so I shall be eating my tea and hammering F5 on a couple of sites :D

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 04:58 PM
I looked closely at the leaked case pix, and I looked closely at the docking station patent filing and I'm convinced we will see dockable Mac portables tomorrow, and that an integrated display/docking station will be announced.

-T

Honestly, what is the point of a laptop with a docking station? Wouldn't there be gigantic cooling problems with something like that?

137489
Oct 13, 2008, 04:58 PM
NO TABLET, EITHER.

Bah, no crying emoticon available... I wasn't getting my hopes too high. would just settle for the imac dock then, but not holding breath at this point.

georgina.carr
Oct 13, 2008, 05:00 PM
I will be at work at 6pm tomorrow :( so i wont see it until around 11, i think it will be the longest shift I've ever worked, can't wait though!!! :D :D :D

tekmoe
Oct 13, 2008, 05:01 PM
"Mac Soda has heard that iLife ’09 and iWork ’09 are going to be announced this Tuesday at the MacBook event. Similar to last year, when Steve introduced the iMac, and then branched off into the iLife and iWork updates, Steve is expected to do the same thing this year, announcing the iLife/iWork update with the introduction of the new laptops."

This is complete ********. No new versions of iLife or iWork tomorrow. -- John Gruber (http://daringfireball.net/)

I'm with you on that. I'll even go as far to say the tool who created MacSoda is basically re-wording previous rumors to get some hits on his blog. Anyone can do that. :rolleyes:

Sucka don't got nothin on AI!

bbmajor
Oct 13, 2008, 05:02 PM
Ah, this is great:) One of the biggest events this year. New macbooks, I love it^^ Apple <3

badr91
Oct 13, 2008, 05:02 PM
Still new to the apple thing, but i wanted to know i live in Dubai, will i be able to get applecare?

Beric
Oct 13, 2008, 05:03 PM
- Announces new Macbook Pro, same styling as the new Macbook, Firewire is on this device. Reduced pricing also. But still premium pricing strategy (no massive price cuts to below current market level). Available with SSD.

You believe Apple will continue to charge almost twice the market value for the specs of the MBP?

I don't like the sound of that one bit.

Cloudane
Oct 13, 2008, 05:03 PM
Add me to the "I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!" list.

It'll be nice to get a replacement for my PB G4 and it's 24-7 noise (the fan that spins at 10000 rpm constantly may be somewhat to blame though).
:D

Same here. Though somehow I suspect the latest heat generating monsters are probably even louder to cool down than our little G4s :D


Well, soon all will be revealed. If all people have to whinge about is lack of Firewire on the MB, I'll be happy - there are far bigger things they could screw up!

Biggest on my don't-you-dare list are glossy-only (or matt on build-to-order only) on the MBP, and some ridiculous release date like December/January.

superknoppix
Oct 13, 2008, 05:04 PM
Tomorrow is going to be the best day since I got my MacBook Air...
Time to go Pro!:D

corinhorn
Oct 13, 2008, 05:05 PM
I looked closely at the leaked case pix, and I looked closely at the docking station patent filing and I'm convinced we will see dockable Mac portables tomorrow, and that an integrated display/docking station will be announced.

-T

I hope you are wrong.

Isn't it possible that Apple files patents just to throw rumors and competitors off the track?

twilsonchicago
Oct 13, 2008, 05:05 PM
Honestly, what is the point of a laptop with a docking station? Wouldn't there be gigantic cooling problems with something like that?

I'm writing this at my desk looking at a 23" display and using a regular keyboard. They're connected to a 17" MBP sitting off to the side taking up space, with 7 cables sticking out the sides. A docking station makes a lot of sense to me.

As for cooling, one of the concepts in the patent application is that cooling could be integrated into the docking station.

-T

MacsRgr8
Oct 13, 2008, 05:05 PM
Wow.... I can't believe the amount of threads / news / rumors / stories whoch are now posted about the October 14th / MacBook (Pro) event...!

And every new story gets tons of replies!

This event must be the most Mac-rumor-covered-anticipated-event ever... even surpassing the PPC to Intel switch.

Just gimme a Alu MacBook with nVidia grfx and FireWire, and I'll be VERY HAPPY. :apple::)

slash
Oct 13, 2008, 05:05 PM
It'll all be underway 6pm my time tomorrow so I shall be eating my tea and hammering F5 on a couple of sites :D

Yeah, same here..

I can't wait guys. I mean, I am so anxious of what we are going to see tomorrow...

It would be sooo cool if the notebooks that will be presented tomorrow have nothing to do with the pics we had these days.. :D But actually get something really, really much better than those we expect to get after seing these pics..
Jobs: "Before five days or so I leaked some pics on the internet you know.. Suddenly all the mac related sites were on fire.. (laughs) Oh, God that was hillarius.."

Now its not funnny any more..:o:p


:apple:4ever

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 05:06 PM
I'm really hoping Apple puts in a high resolution display. 15" at 1680x1050 would rock, 1920x1200 would be better. No more 1440x900 Apple! Please!

14" MacBook with 1366x768 resolution
16" MacBook Pro with 1600x900 resolution
and
18" MacBook Pro with 1920x1080 resolution
would all be just fine.

MrCrowbar
Oct 13, 2008, 05:08 PM
Beware Of Revision A products!

<buys Apple stock> :p

Seriously though, my Macbook spent cumulative 7 months away from me because it was being repaired somewhere. Now I'm just fixing everything myself wit parts from eBay. It's cheaper (out of warranty now) and less frustrating and I don't have to stand in line for an hour and a half just to deposit/pick up/get status info on my Macbook.

Don't buy at Gravis in Germany. The online Apple store is cheaper, faster, and nicer handling warranty stuff.

twilsonchicago
Oct 13, 2008, 05:08 PM
I hope you are wrong.

Isn't it possible that Apple files patents just to throw rumors off the track?

Maybe. But the mysterious new port matches up with the patent drawings in a way that doesn't make sense for any other conceivable function.

-T

Jbrant7650
Oct 13, 2008, 05:08 PM
It seems like a lot of the rumors regarding the mac brick involve a new manufacturing process using lasers that allows for an easier transition from producing one product to the next. If that is true then couldn't it also be possible that all the leaked pictures of the new macbook casings are just fakes that were leaked keep all the rumor sites busy. In the past Apple used to issue cease and desist orders for things like that and it seems odd that all of the sudden high quality pictures of a major product redesign leaked days before an apple event go unchallenged. It would make sense that Apple got tired of trying to squash the rumors and use them to their advantage instead. It would also be a good way to showcase the versatility of the new brick manufacturing process. My guess is that whatever is unveiled tomorrow looks nothing like the leaked photos. (personally I'm hoping for a mac tablet)

illegallydead
Oct 13, 2008, 05:08 PM
hmmm..... this will be interesting to see. Not sure what all to expect, although I'm not so sure that I care at this point seeing as I have a 1.5-ish y.o. MB that has no problems.

I do think it is funny that people are crying about what the leaked photo's mean for the lineup as a whole. There is a very good possibility that we only got a peek at 1/2 of the line-up, as is perhaps a near-currently speced and ported MB and of course the 17" MBP. And of course these could be old case designs or something. Who knows.
As has been said, we just have to wait for the old man Jobs to get up there.
I have a feeling that I will be a bit distracted during a few of my classes tomorrow, constantly hitting whatever site has the best info.

Beric
Oct 13, 2008, 05:09 PM
Tomorrow is going to be the best day since I got my MacBook Air...
Time to go Pro!:D

Judging by the current MBP lineup, you'll be going "Macbook Thin". There is nothing "Pro" about the current MBP. It's simply a MB with dedicated graphics and a larger screen. One can hope that either this will change (that the MBP actually becomes a "Pro" machine), or that the "Pro" lineup disappears because it is so similar to the Macbook that there is not enough difference.

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 05:10 PM
Judging by the current MBP lineup, you'll be going "Macbook Thin". There is nothing "Pro" about the current MBP. It's simply a MB with dedicated graphics and a larger screen. One can hope that either this will change (that the MBP actually becomes a "Pro" machine), or that the "Pro" lineup disappears because it is so similar to the Macbook that there is not enough difference.

Or Apple should could drop the "Pro" name, thus unifying the laptop line.

illegallydead
Oct 13, 2008, 05:10 PM
I hope you are wrong.

Isn't it possible that Apple files patents just to throw rumors and competitors off the track?

I doubt that they are filing patents to throw us off. They are filing them so that in the event that they can/do take the idea out of the labs and into active development, they already have that nice little patent in there pocket protecting them (and saving them time later in the build process)

Beric
Oct 13, 2008, 05:11 PM
Or Apple should could drop the "Pro" name, thus unifying the laptop line.

Exactly what I want to see. :cool:

thenightstalker
Oct 13, 2008, 05:12 PM
14" MacBook with 1366x768 resolution
16" MacBook Pro with 1600x900 resolution
and
18" MacBook Pro with 1920x1080 resolution
would all be just fine.

Lol, keep pulling the 16:9 out of no where. I guess if you say it enough and adamantly defend this on no evidence it must be true?

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 05:12 PM
Exactly what I want to see. :cool:

Me too.
I actually hope the "real" MacBook Pros were not leaked yet, if Apple did make them.

Beric
Oct 13, 2008, 05:15 PM
Me too.
I actually hope the "real" MacBook Pros were not leaked yet, if Apple did make them.

Yeah. The current speculated MBP images appear to be just as thin as before, so there's no way Apple could actually put some decent specs into them.

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 05:15 PM
adamantly defend this on no evidence it must be true?
One article that supports me:
http://macsoda.com/2008/10/09/mac-sodas-final-spotlight-predictions/
I was saying 16:9 ratio before this though.

Edit: I do not know what resolutions actually, so I made plausible predictions about the resolutions.

Edit 2: Also this:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6372524&postcount=36

sfwalter
Oct 13, 2008, 05:15 PM
So if we about 19 hours left before the special event. I guess in about 21 hours people will be complaining because their unreal expectations were once again not met.

137489
Oct 13, 2008, 05:17 PM
So if we about 19 hours left before the special event. I guess in about 21 hours people will be complaining because their unreal expectations were once again not met.

Umm, this is macrumors and has not changed; right? :rolleyes:

iD-Rok
Oct 13, 2008, 05:18 PM
I was wondering what people think about buying rev A products from apple and how long they suggest to wait before picking up the newest model. I was thinking of waiting a few weeks after they are released and seeing if there are any glaring problems with the new MB's. But I have to say its far easier to say I'm going to wait than actually doing it:D

sfwalter
Oct 13, 2008, 05:21 PM
Any thoughts on performance of the Intel chips that will be used compared to the currently shipping mbp's? Should we expect a minor speed improvement or a major one?

corinhorn
Oct 13, 2008, 05:21 PM
I doubt that they are filing patents to throw us off. They are filing them so that in the event that they can/do take the idea out of the labs and into active development, they already have that nice little patent in there pocket protecting them (and saving them time later in the build process)That is kind of obvious. I realize that patents are there to protect, but I was suggesting that some patents may be meant to throw rumors and especially competitors off.

Beric
Oct 13, 2008, 05:22 PM
So if we about 19 hours left before the special event. I guess in about 21 hours people will be complaining because their unreal expectations were once again not met.

I'd like to know what these "unreal expectations" are?

Dedicated graphics and no combo drive in the MB are not only perfectly reasonable, but it's shocking they don't already exist. Wanting the MBP thicker so it could actually have some decent specs and be a cool machine for one is not unreasonable. Wanting Apple to discontinue their high prices for standard PC laptop hardware is not unreal. Wanting some dedicated graphics in the MBP that actually perform for a machine whose second word is "Pro" is not unreal.

Aranince
Oct 13, 2008, 05:27 PM
Engadget's live blog is up already :eek:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/14/live-from-apples-spotlight-turns-to-notebooks-event/

137489
Oct 13, 2008, 05:28 PM
I was wondering what people think about buying rev A products from apple and how long they suggest to wait before picking up the newest model. I was thinking of waiting a few weeks after they are released and seeing if there are any glaring problems with the new MB's. But I have to say its far easier to say I'm going to wait than actually doing it:D

Some people say that REV A has had their problems. I just switched this year, so none of mine are rev a. that being said..... I would get the applecare anyway....

angemon89
Oct 13, 2008, 05:29 PM
YES, Can't wait! :D

crisss1205
Oct 13, 2008, 05:31 PM
What about OS X 10.6 "Snow Leopard"? Will they give us more info on a better date when Snow Leopard will come out, maybe go more in depth in the new features?
And the push notification service would me nice, they are a month late.

sfwalter
Oct 13, 2008, 05:33 PM
I was say probably not. Apple events as of late have been laser focused.

Eric S.
Oct 13, 2008, 05:34 PM
I haven't seen any speculation on 10.5.6 being released tomorrow. I would think it might be required for the new systems to support new graphics HW, etc.

Loge
Oct 13, 2008, 05:34 PM
Given that the case leaks we've seen all appear to be 13" and 15" models, how confident are people that we will see an updated 17" (or 18 if that floats your boat) model tomorrow as well? Or is the 17" going the way of the 160GB iPod Classic?

iD-Rok
Oct 13, 2008, 05:35 PM
Some people say that REV A has had their problems. I just switched this year, so none of mine are rev a. that being said..... I would get the applecare anyway....
I do plan to get applecare but my fear is having to ship off my computer for long periods of time, or will they just take my old one and give me a new one without the problems? I have applecare on my current MB but never had to use it so far for anything major so I am unsure of what to expect. Thanks.

Eric S.
Oct 13, 2008, 05:36 PM
So if we about 19 hours left before the special event. I guess in about 21 hours people will be complaining because their unreal expectations were once again not met.

Are you kidding? People are already complaining, based on the port layout in photos that may or may not be accurate representations of the new models.

jojo13
Oct 13, 2008, 05:37 PM
tomorrow is gonna be fun:D

Awesome-o/
Oct 13, 2008, 05:38 PM
15 inch macbook would be the best change for me, 13 is just to small for those wanting to use the macbook as their main comp.

how long is it usually till the video of the event comes out? Debatting waiting for it :confused:

sfwalter
Oct 13, 2008, 05:38 PM
I know this sounds sad. But I have 4 sick days to use before the end of year and I'm thinking of taking one tomorrow.

yamaha106
Oct 13, 2008, 05:38 PM
I cant wait!!!!

gifford
Oct 13, 2008, 05:39 PM
I'd like to know what these "unreal expectations" are?

Dedicated graphics and no combo drive in the MB are not only perfectly reasonable, but it's shocking they don't already exis.

removing the drive altogether would be a preferable IMO

mdntcallr
Oct 13, 2008, 05:39 PM
What we expect to see:

• Macbook Pro - new keyboard, overhauled case design, refined (major inspiration from Macbook Air), SSD options, magnetic latch, reconfigured ports, black bezel around the screen, possible aspect ratio changes, possible increased multi-touch gestures, possible larger trackpad

• Macbook - overhauled case design, move to aluminum, possible addition of multi-touch gestures to trackpad, possible larger trackpad, reconfigured ports, general attempt at a more high-end feel

• Macbook Air - briefly mentioned, spec updates, overall performance increase, storage boosts, possible but unlikely case refinements, possible price reduction

Across the board:

• Aggressive price points
• Unified look across entire notebook line (Aluminum)
• Standardization of parts for easier production
• LED’s

Probable:

• Inclusion of NVIDIA chipsets, specifically targeted towards reduced power consumption
• Ramp up of LED inclusion/production

Not Likely:

• Tablet notebook, multi-touch netbook
• Blu-Ray integration
• multi-touch glass trackpad
• re-introduction of 12″ G4 powerbook (comparable model)
• unification of entire notebook line (as in calling them all macbook’s and dropping the “pro”)
• LED keyboard

i love how you push what you think is going to happen. lets see what they come with. Though I disagree on some stuff, i find it utterly amusing that you post this after all the other posts talking about the coming new products.

personally I think that there will be a Macbook Mini introduced, also i genuinely hope Blu-Ray comes finally, though it would be weird if they didn't update the desktop line for it also.

krye
Oct 13, 2008, 05:44 PM
So basically we know everything or we know nothing.

As usual, anything goes. And everything here is so off the wall, that everyone will be soooo disappointed when there's no docking station no Blu Ray, and no Tablet.

Beric
Oct 13, 2008, 05:44 PM
removing the drive altogether would be a preferable IMO

What about DVD's on the go? Or ripping CD's? Or games that require a disk?

Removing the optical drive would be terrible. :(

wx4svr
Oct 13, 2008, 05:46 PM
What about DVD's on the go? Or ripping CD's? Or games that require a disk?

Removing the optical drive would be terrible. :(

I could see them removing the drive in "MAYBE" a MacBook.. but in a MacBook Pro.. NO WAY! I think it wouldn't happen though.

Aperture
Oct 13, 2008, 05:46 PM
What about DVD's on the go? Or ripping CD's? Or games that require a disk?

Removing the optical drive would be terrible. :(

I thought they removed it from the Air because it was an ultra portable. The Macbook is not an ultra portable...

sfh
Oct 13, 2008, 05:46 PM
I cant wait for 2moro :-):) We shall see how let down we all may be :-(

tgildred
Oct 13, 2008, 05:47 PM
It will taste better marinated.

mmm... spicy buffalo chicken MBP.

TheSVD
Oct 13, 2008, 05:48 PM
(...) Nothing crazy and out of the ordinary.
I reckon thats for MWSF. I think that alot will be announced tommorow, leaving plenty of room for mystery for MWSF.
Think, if they did cinema displays, maybe even mac minis, whatever, perhaps evn more on snow leopard, ilife/work 09 - what could come for MWSF?
Very unlikely though :P

Beric
Oct 13, 2008, 05:52 PM
I thought they removed it from the Air because it was an ultra portable. The Macbook is not an ultra portable...

Exactly. And yet another member was suggesting the optical drive be removed from the Macbook. A no-go.

twilsonchicago
Oct 13, 2008, 05:52 PM
I do plan to get applecare but my fear is having to ship off my computer for long periods of time, or will they just take my old one and give me a new one without the problems? I have applecare on my current MB but never had to use it so far for anything major so I am unsure of what to expect. Thanks.

I'm a principal in a small design firm and the resident tech head. I've managed more than 30 macs over the last dozen years or so and I cannot remember more than two or three out-of-warranty component failures on anything less than about 5 years old (beyond Applecare's coverage period, yes?). And if the cause was a known defect, Apple replaced it free anyway. I've never bought Applecare, even on servers, and I've saved thousands of dollars.

Try this: Take the money you'd spend on Applecare and every other extended warranty someone tries to sell you, and put it all in a savings account. When something breaks out of warranty, pay for it from the account. I guarantee you'll come out ahead.

-T

Wierd Fishes
Oct 13, 2008, 05:56 PM
I'm a principal in a small design firm and the resident tech head. I've managed more than 30 macs over the last dozen years or so and I cannot remember more than two or three out-of-warranty component failures on anything less than about 5 years old (beyond Applecare's coverage period, yes?). And if the cause was a known defect, Apple replaced it free anyway. I've never bought Applecare, even on servers, and I've saved thousands of dollars.

Try this: Take the money you'd spend on Applecare and every other extended warranty someone tries to sell you, and put it all in a savings account. When something breaks out of warranty, pay for it from the account. I guarantee you'll come out ahead.

-T
Savings account eh... never thought of that, but always knew those were a crock.

Hey, its getting dark in here, could sure use a black backlit keyboard on my MB... lol:D

wx4svr
Oct 13, 2008, 05:56 PM
Has this happened to anyone else...

You are SOOO happy that there is a Keynote, and you tell yourself that you are NOT going to look at this website until the Keynote steam is up so you can be sooo surprised when Steve shows off the new goodies. However, you make it until 2:30 when you can't take it anymore. You end up spoiling it for yourself and clicking over to MacRumors.com Has anyone else gone through this fight with your mind?
:apple:

puffnstuff
Oct 13, 2008, 06:01 PM
I love how people keep asking about mac minis. The freakin' invite says NOTEBOOKS! Same thing happened with the "Lets Rock Event" it was clearly about ipods but people kept saying its going to be about the notebooks. Why are people slow?:confused:

I do think a surprise is coming. It is not often that they have a notebook event. So something huge may appear.

Macworld is for something brand spankin' new. Apple has three notebook lines who is to say they wont introduce something an slap an mba,mbp,or mb tag on it and release it on tuesday. The rumor is there are 12 new products to be released. Count how many there are now.

Wierd Fishes
Oct 13, 2008, 06:02 PM
Has this happened to anyone else...

You are SOOO happy that there is a Keynote, and you tell yourself that you are NOT going to look at this website until the Keynote steam is up so you can be sooo surprised when Steve shows off the new goodies. However, you make it until 2:30 when you can't take it anymore. You end up spoiling it for yourself and clicking over to MacRumors.com Has anyone else gone through this fight with your mind?
:apple:

I always read the live feeds.

TheSVD
Oct 13, 2008, 06:02 PM
Has this happened to anyone else...

You are SOOO happy that there is a Keynote, and you tell yourself that you are NOT going to look at this website until the Keynote steam is up so you can be sooo surprised when Steve shows off the new goodies. However, you make it until 2:30 when you can't take it anymore. You end up spoiling it for yourself and clicking over to MacRumors.com Has anyone else gone through this fight with your mind?
:apple:

Ditto :D
But i really have to go now, its 12:00am here in England, goodbye all, and have fun with tommorow :D

bektravels
Oct 13, 2008, 06:02 PM
Perhaps tomorrow will finally bring a Mac notebook worthy of replacing my 12" PB.. 4+ years old and still going strong. IMO, the best little notebook Apple has produced.

Heh, that's exactly how I feel too:)

chickenninja
Oct 13, 2008, 06:02 PM
all i see in these rumors are a folding silver rectangle, how many years have we had that design..... it could at least become a solar powered kite that could charge itself. Then in a few years they could make it wireless. he he but seriously back when the ibook came out it shattered the mold of laptops, and we havent seen anything close to as cool since. i hope all these rumors are bunk so that theres still a chance for some real case redigns that will sing my soul to sleep.

digitalbiker
Oct 13, 2008, 06:03 PM
Me too.
I actually hope the "real" MacBook Pros were not leaked yet, if Apple did make them.

What's with you two? (kabunaru & beric)

Apple is definitely not dropping the MBP, MB division. The leaked Apple service document proves that. Plus, there is no reason why Apple would want to merge the lines.

Apple is steering the laptop lines to different markets.

The MacBook line is for the general consumer/student who wants a small portable for medium duty computer needs.

The MacBook Pro is for the Power User or Professional who wants a portable with multiple connectivity options, better displays, more storage and RAM capacity, and more computational power.

The MacBook Air is for the frequent business traveler who wants an ultra-light portable capable of light to medium duty computer tasks.

Apple uses whatever technology is available to satisfy those markets while offering award winning designs and a unique computing experience.

Apple does not make Alienware bricks with desktop components crammed into large heavy shells to win performance bragging rights. However the MBP is still a decent workhorse and a nice piece of hardware for most video, audio, graphic artist, scientific, or business professional.

schneb
Oct 13, 2008, 06:03 PM
I'm really excited, but also extremely nervous. If Apple does drop Firewire from the 13" Macbook and/or doesn't offer Firewire in a small enclosure < $1500 I'll have to look at other options... like I did for my Desktop when Apple continued to ignore the users who need a true Desktop (not a mini using notebook parts, an all-in-one using notebook parts, or a > $2300 workstation) and I couldn't wait any longer.

I love the OS and have owned about two dozen different Macs over the years, but their hardware lately has been extremely disappointing to me.

I agree completely. If Apple has dropped the ball anywhere, it is in not creating a half-height Mac Pro. Its either Moped or a Harley with them.

wx4svr
Oct 13, 2008, 06:03 PM
Ditto :D
But i really have to go now, its 12:00am here in England, goodbye all, and have fun with tommorow :D

Have a good one! I'm thinking about turning off my fios router until 5 or 6 PM when I know the stream may be up. This Mac Rumors link on my Safari bar is just a ticking time bomb.

Beric
Oct 13, 2008, 06:06 PM
What's with you two? (kabunaru & beric)

Apple is definitely not dropping the MBP, MB division. The leaked Apple service document proves that. Plus, there is no reason why Apple would want to merge the lines.

Apple is steering the laptop lines to different markets.

The MacBook line is for the general consumer/student who wants a small portable for medium duty computer needs.

The MacBook Pro is for the Power User or Professional who wants a portable with multiple connectivity options, better displays, more storage and RAM capacity, and more computational power.

The MacBook Air is for the frequent business traveler who wants an ultra-light portable capable of light to medium duty computer tasks.

Apple uses whatever technology is available to satisfy those markets while offering award winning designs and a unique computing experience.

Apple does not make Alienware bricks with desktop components crammed into large heavy shells to win performance bragging rights. However the MBP is still a decent workhorse and a nice piece of hardware for most video, audio, graphic artist, scientific, or business professional.

Perhaps we see two very distinct and major holes in that lineup, and want them filled? :confused:

The Macbook powerhouse, and the 13" Macbook that actually performs.

commander.data
Oct 13, 2008, 06:08 PM
I posted my comparisons on some of the perceived advantages of going with nVidia chipsets in another forum and I thought I might as well posted them here. I'm not saying that going with nVidia chipsets is unlikely or bad, it's just that it isn't some huge saving grace. And I'd thought I'd get this out before whatever comes tomorrow.

1. MCP79 is physically smaller than the Centrino 2 Montevina.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/print/20070907170824.html

Size is not a big factor. Intel has the GS45 available for small-form factor applications. A regular GM45 is 34x34mm while a GS45 is 27x25mm. The GS45 can operate in high-powered mode for the MB and MBP, offering the exact same functionality as the GM45, only being physically smaller. The GS45 can also operate in low-powered mode for tighter thermal requirements such as the MBA. Similarly, the ICH9M southbridge is also available in small-form factor form. The total surface-area of a regular GM45 and ICH9M is 3342mm² while the small form factor version is 1415mm² with no loss in functionality.

2. Hybrid SLI or Power to switch between integrated and discrete graphics and/or for performance boost.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/hybridsli_notebook.html

Being able to switch between integrated and discrete graphics is a feature of the GM45 and Montevina. Intel's implementation has the advantage of being GPU agnostic working with nVidia or ATI GPUs, while nVidia's chipset forces you to use nVidia GPUs.

Hybrid SLI for performance boost is irrelevent since it only works for low-end GPUs 9500M G and below. A 9500M GS or above can't operate in SLI with the IGP so it's no help to the MBP. It'll only help the MB if the MB also had a low-end GPU in addition to an IGP which is unlikely.

3. nVidia DriveCache for faster booting and response times.
This technically was really pioneered by Intel in their previous Santa Rosa chipset and is called Turbo Memory or Robson Technology while in development. I believe Intel has also implemented it on their desktop chipsets now too. Montevina of course supports it.

4. nVidia's superior IGP and the possibility of dedicated VRAM
nVidia's IGP is really the only advantage they have over Intel chipsets.

http://www.notebookjournal.de/praxis/79/3

The GMA X4500MHD already performs somewhere between a discrete 8400M G and discrete 8400M GS. The 8400M GS has since been renamed a 9300M G.

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Intel_GM47_Mobile_Chipset_Delivers_2X_Graphics_Performance/5592.html

Intel also has a GM47 on their roadmaps which has the GMA X4500MHD overclocked from 533MHz to 640MHz. This'll probably come close to 8400M GS/9300M G performance if Intel gets their drivers together.

So nVidia's IGP solution really needs to be 9400M class to solidly differentiate itself from the GMA X4500MHD and Intel's possible overclocked response. Hopefully, nVidia will deliver and Apple helps by using dedicated VRAM.

The other issue is power consumption. nVidia's chipsets generally aren't known to be the lowest power solutions compared to ATI or Intel. Intel's Montevina has also moved to a 65nm process compared to 90nm in Santa Rosa so power consumption is down despite the faster IGP.

Really, the advantages of going nVidia over Intel aren't quite as clear cut as some of the rumours or nVidia's marketing would make it seem.

digitalbiker
Oct 13, 2008, 06:14 PM
I do plan to get applecare but my fear is having to ship off my computer for long periods of time, or will they just take my old one and give me a new one without the problems? I have applecare on my current MB but never had to use it so far for anything major so I am unsure of what to expect. Thanks.

I never buy extended warranties on any consumer product except Apple portables.

Since 1991 I have bought AppleCare on every portable I have ever owned and I am way ahead on savings. I have sent many Apple laptops in for repairs and it has saved me thousands. AppleCare is fast. Many times I have had turnaround on my repairs in less than 4 days.

I report the problem. Receive the shipping carton from Apple via overnight shipping. Return the laptop. Then 2 - 3 days later receive the repaired laptop. Sometimes I have even had Apple bump my laptop to a newer GPU or better cpu.

Don't buy a laptop without AppleCare. It is just too good of a deal not to take advantage of.

ezekielrage_99
Oct 13, 2008, 06:14 PM
I wonder if a $USD800 Macbook with nVidia graphics, 2GB RAM and 200+GB HDD is too much to ask for :confused:

digitalbiker
Oct 13, 2008, 06:19 PM
Perhaps we see two very distinct and major holes in that lineup, and want them filled? :confused:

The Macbook powerhouse, and the 13" Macbook that actually performs.

Those holes are already filled they just need to be updated.

The MBP is powerhouse enough for most professionals, it is just in need of a recent update.

The 13" MB did perform well it is just in need of an update.

Hence the reason for the updates tomorrow.

B. Hunter
Oct 13, 2008, 06:19 PM
"Mac Soda has heard that iLife ’09 and iWork ’09 are going to be announced this Tuesday at the MacBook event. Similar to last year, when Steve introduced the iMac, and then branched off into the iLife and iWork updates, Steve is expected to do the same thing this year, announcing the iLife/iWork update with the introduction of the new laptops."

This is complete ********. No new versions of iLife or iWork tomorrow. -- John Gruber (http://daringfireball.net/)

And what if it turns out to be true? We don't really know.
I tend to save the bold face type for things I know to be true.

PinkyMacGodess
Oct 13, 2008, 06:20 PM
I distinctly remember seeing 'iLife '09' in our distributors listings of Apple products. It was there and now it's gone. At the time I saw it, I didn't think to get the SKU. I should have gotten it then.

I'll check now and see if anything has changed...

Lo Aul
Oct 13, 2008, 06:21 PM
i love how you push what you think is going to happen. lets see what they come with. Though I disagree on some stuff, i find it utterly amusing that you post this after all the other posts talking about the coming new products.

personally I think that there will be a Macbook Mini introduced, also i genuinely hope Blu-Ray comes finally, though it would be weird if they didn't update the desktop line for it also.

MacBook Mini would compete too much with the Air. No way it happens.

andiwm2003
Oct 13, 2008, 06:22 PM
I posted my comparisons on some of the perceived advantages of going with nVidia chipsets in another forum and I thought I might as well posted them here. I'm not saying that going with nVidia chipsets is unlikely or bad, it's just that it isn't some huge saving grace. And I'd thought I'd get this out before whatever comes tomorrow.


http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/print/20070907170824.html

Size is not a big factor. Intel has the GS45 available for small-form factor applications. A regular GM45 is 34x34mm while a GS45 is 27x25mm. The GS45 can operate in high-powered mode for the MB and MBP, offering the exact same functionality as the GM45, only being physically smaller. The GS45 can also operate in low-powered mode for tighter thermal requirements such as the MBA. Similarly, the ICH9M southbridge is also available in small-form factor form. The total surface-area of a regular GM45 and ICH9M is 3342mm² while the small form factor version is 1415mm² with no loss in functionality.


http://www.nvidia.com/object/hybridsli_notebook.html

Being able to switch between integrated and discrete graphics is a feature of the GM45 and Montevina. Intel's implementation has the advantage of being GPU agnostic working with nVidia or ATI GPUs, while nVidia's chipset forces you to use nVidia GPUs.

Hybrid SLI for performance boost is irrelevent since it only works for low-end GPUs 9500M G and below. A 9500M GS or above can't operate in SLI with the IGP so it's no help to the MBP. It'll only help the MB if the MB also had a low-end GPU in addition to an IGP which is unlikely.


This technically was really pioneered by Intel in their previous Santa Rosa chipset and is called Turbo Memory or Robson Technology while in development. I believe Intel has also implemented it on their desktop chipsets now too. Montevina of course supports it.


nVidia's IGP is really the only advantage they have over Intel chipsets.

http://www.notebookjournal.de/praxis/79/3

The GMA X4500MHD already performs somewhere between a discrete 8400M G and discrete 8400M GS. The 8400M GS has since been renamed a 9300M G.

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Intel_GM47_Mobile_Chipset_Delivers_2X_Graphics_Performance/5592.html

Intel also has a GM47 on their roadmaps which has the GMA X4500MHD overclocked from 533MHz to 640MHz. This'll probably come close to 8400M GS/9300M G performance if Intel gets their drivers together.

So nVidia's IGP solution really needs to be 9400M class to solidly differentiate itself from the GMA X4500MHD and Intel's possible overclocked response. Hopefully, nVidia will deliver and Apple helps by using dedicated VRAM.

The other issue is power consumption. nVidia's chipsets generally aren't known to be the lowest power solutions compared to ATI or Intel. Intel's Montevina has also moved to a 65nm process compared to 90nm in Santa Rosa so power consumption is down despite the faster IGP.

Really, the advantages of going nVidia over Intel aren't quite as clear cut as some of the rumours or nVidia's marketing would make it seem.



well said. it seems a lot of people compare the intel IGP with the intel X3000. and then add some wishful thinking
:cool:

ellsworth
Oct 13, 2008, 06:22 PM
These leakage photos that we see on these rumor boards... I'm pretty sure Apple is "meh" about them all because they probably have something AMAZING coming out that only Apple knows about... WATCH... amazingness = tomorrow

MyMelange
Oct 13, 2008, 06:22 PM
Hi,

I am new to your awesome mac forum and have a few questions.

I am converting from a PC to a Mac!!! Yeah!

I have been waiting patiently for the new macbooks to arrive so I can decide between purchasing the current macbook or the new one.

I have a few questions for all you knowledgeable Mac users.

1. How soon will the new models be available to test and buy in stores after the press release tomorrow?

2. What do they do with the old models? Do they still have them available at a discount? How much of a discount would you expect?

3. I am not a gamer and I don't use video- I will use this for blogging, writing, picture and file storage, photo editing and heavy internet usage. My current Dell desktop is 1.0Ghz/1GB/160GB and seems to work fine for what I need. I want speed, and the ability to have several applications open and running at once. Would you recommend that I stick to buying the current macbook version 2.4 Ghz/2GB/250GB at full price, waiting to see if I can buy said model at a discount after the new ones are released or is there something miraculous expected in the new upgrade that would affect me so that I should wait to buy the new model?

Sheesh. I know that is alot, but I'd appreciate any help!

And you can bet I'll be following you on twitter tomorrow to see all the fuss:D

gifford
Oct 13, 2008, 06:24 PM
What about DVD's on the go? Or ripping CD's? Or games that require a disk?

Removing the optical drive would be terrible. :(

Thats like so 20th century :)

I have barely used an optical drive, or floppy since a very long time. Wasted space for me.
All my tunes are either vinyl or mp3's, and I wouldnt dream of renting a DVD as the closest video rentals is Blockbuster, and they get on my nerves.
OSX updates are the only thing I occasionally use it for.

thechidz
Oct 13, 2008, 06:25 PM
Hi,

I am new to your awesome mac forum and have a few questions.

I am converting from a PC to a Mac!!! Yeah!

I have been waiting patiently for the new macbooks to arrive so I can decide between purchasing the current macbook or the new one.

I have a few questions for all you knowledgeable Mac users.

1. How soon will the new models be available to test and buy in stores after the press release tomorrow?

2. What do they do with the old models? Do they still have them available at a discount? How much of a discount would you expect?

3. I am not a gamer and I don't use video- I will use this for blogging, writing, picture and file storage, photo editing and heavy internet usage. My current Dell desktop is 1.0Ghz/1GB/160GB and seems to work fine for what I need. I want speed, and the ability to have several applications open and running at once. Would you recommend that I stick to buying the current macbook version 2.4 Ghz/2GB/250GB at full price, waiting to see if I can buy said model at a discount after the new ones are released or is there something miraculous expected in the new upgrade that would affect me so that I should wait to buy the new model?

Sheesh. I know that is alot, but I'd appreciate any help!

And you can bet I'll be following you on twitter tomorrow to see all the fuss:D
If you don't care too much about what is added tomorrow, you can probably save a lot on an older macbook after the updates

macshill
Oct 13, 2008, 06:26 PM
Harold & Kumar Go To Spotlight Turns To Notebooks? :apple:

Joe The Dragon
Oct 13, 2008, 06:27 PM
Does intel have any plans for on board with it's own ram like how some ati boards have and how some nvidia chips can use?

jojo13
Oct 13, 2008, 06:28 PM
Harold & Kumar Go To Spotlight Turns To Notebooks? :apple:

is it supposed to be funny?

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 06:30 PM
is it supposed to be funny?

Yeah, I agree; that was a bit of a fail joke.

PinkyMacGodess
Oct 13, 2008, 06:31 PM
Apple MacBook - Core 2 Duo 2.1 GHz - RAM 1 GB - HDD 120 GB - CD-RW / DVD - GMA X3100 Dynamic Video Memory Technology 4.0 - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : Bluetooth 2.0 EDR, 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft) - MacOS X 10.5 - 13.3" Widescreen TFT 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - camera $1099.00

Apple MacBook - Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 160 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GMA X3100 Dynamic Video Memory Technology 4.0 - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : Bluetooth 2.0 EDR, 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft) - MacOS X 10.5 - 13.3" Widescreen TFT 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - camera $1299.00

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 200 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 15.4" Widescreen TFT 1440 x 900 ( WXGA+ ) - camera TBD

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.5 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 250 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 15.4" Widescreen TFT 1440 x 900 ( WXGA+ ) - camera TBD

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.5 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 250 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 17" Widescreen TFT 1680 x 1050 ( WSXGA+ ) - camera $2799.00

I'm not sure of the MacBook Pro's but the picture of the MacBooks is dead on what the leaked pictures show... DEAD ON! Definitely aluminum definitely sexy looking. Definitely not under $1,000.00. Although this distributor doesn't handle some residential models for other companies...

They snow massive stock of the new MacBooks. They still have the older MacBooks in large stock. Are they the under $1000.00 notebooks? No Blu-Ray. Yet.

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 06:31 PM
Apple MacBook - Core 2 Duo 2.1 GHz - RAM 1 GB - HDD 120 GB - CD-RW / DVD - GMA X3100 Dynamic Video Memory Technology 4.0 - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : Bluetooth 2.0 EDR, 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft) - MacOS X 10.5 - 13.3" Widescreen TFT 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - camera $1099.00

Apple MacBook - Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 160 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GMA X3100 Dynamic Video Memory Technology 4.0 - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : Bluetooth 2.0 EDR, 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft) - MacOS X 10.5 - 13.3" Widescreen TFT 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - camera $1299.00

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 200 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 15.4" Widescreen TFT 1440 x 900 ( WXGA+ ) - camera TBD

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.5 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 250 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 15.4" Widescreen TFT 1440 x 900 ( WXGA+ ) - camera TBD

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.5 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 250 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 17" Widescreen TFT 1680 x 1050 ( WSXGA+ ) - camera $2799.00

I'm not sure of the MacBook Pro's but the picture of the MacBooks is dead on what the leaked pictures show... DEAD ON! Definitely aluminum definitely sexy looking. Definitely not under $1,000.00. Although this distributor doesn't handle some residential models for other companies...

They snow massive stock of the new MacBooks. They still have the older MacBooks in large stock. Are they the under $1000.00 notebooks? No Blu-Ray. Yet.

Where are you getting this information?

gifford
Oct 13, 2008, 06:32 PM
Hi,

I am new to your awesome mac forum and have a few questions.

[QUOTE=MyMelange;6403655]I am converting from a PC to a Mac!!! Yeah!
good work, welcome to the enlightened.

I have been waiting patiently for the new macbooks to arrive so I can decide between purchasing the current macbook or the new one.
wait

1. How soon will the new models be available to test and buy in stores after the press release tomorrow?

normally surprisingly quick

2. What do they do with the old models? Do they still have them available at a discount? How much of a discount would you expect?
Apple refurbs (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/9864001/wo/3M1oIUEuT2Wr2VMWjszqydJHL9U/2.0.0.26.9.5.7.1.1.1.1) often get around 30%

I want speed, and the ability to have several applications open and running at once.

:):eek: sorry that made me chuckle:) Any recent mac will happily chug along with loads of apps open, just load if with at least 2gig of ram. I often have 30 or so apps open and mines 2 years old.

137489
Oct 13, 2008, 06:32 PM
Has this happened to anyone else...

You are SOOO happy that there is a Keynote, and you tell yourself that you are NOT going to look at this website until the Keynote steam is up so you can be sooo surprised when Steve shows off the new goodies. However, you make it until 2:30 when you can't take it anymore. You end up spoiling it for yourself and clicking over to MacRumors.com Has anyone else gone through this fight with your mind?
:apple:

livefeeds, then go back and watch the keynote.... This time, it will have to be the keynote as I will be in the dentist chair.

PinkyMacGodess
Oct 13, 2008, 06:34 PM
Where are you getting this information?

Our computer distributor. It's a very large national, and Canada, distributor.

I'm not under any non-disclosure agreements but still would rather not say who. Suffice it to say that they have nearly 750 of each of the new MacBook models.

EDIT: No sign of iLife '09 again nor of any other versions of iWork.

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 06:35 PM
Has this happened to anyone else...

You are SOOO happy that there is a Keynote, and you tell yourself that you are NOT going to look at this website until the Keynote steam is up so you can be sooo surprised when Steve shows off the new goodies. However, you make it until 2:30 when you can't take it anymore. You end up spoiling it for yourself and clicking over to MacRumors.com Has anyone else gone through this fight with your mind?
:apple:

I don't know what I'm going to do. I could get the spoiler free link, but I get email from Apple anyway, so I would probably get a spoiler from my inbox alone. Probably, I'll go to Apple's main site and watch the keynote as soon as it's up and get the spoilers anyway.

moebius
Oct 13, 2008, 06:36 PM
The present update will be very meaningful for me, If apple does not provide an alternative for travelers like myself (other than MBA) I will be in the very sad condition of leaving apple for the first time in 15 years.

137489
Oct 13, 2008, 06:37 PM
Hi,

I am new to your awesome mac forum and have a few questions.

I am converting from a PC to a Mac!!! Yeah!

I have been waiting patiently for the new macbooks to arrive so I can decide between purchasing the current macbook or the new one.

I have a few questions for all you knowledgeable Mac users.

1. How soon will the new models be available to test and buy in stores after the press release tomorrow?

2. What do they do with the old models? Do they still have them available at a discount? How much of a discount would you expect?

3. I am not a gamer and I don't use video- I will use this for blogging, writing, picture and file storage, photo editing and heavy internet usage. My current Dell desktop is 1.0Ghz/1GB/160GB and seems to work fine for what I need. I want speed, and the ability to have several applications open and running at once. Would you recommend that I stick to buying the current macbook version 2.4 Ghz/2GB/250GB at full price, waiting to see if I can buy said model at a discount after the new ones are released or is there something miraculous expected in the new upgrade that would affect me so that I should wait to buy the new model?

Sheesh. I know that is alot, but I'd appreciate any help!

And you can bet I'll be following you on twitter tomorrow to see all the fuss:D


well, based on your number 3 - I don't see the fuss of you getting all excited about tomorrow (except for maybe - "hey I got the newest"). save yourself the money and keep an eye on http://macmall.com

they have competitave pricing and that is where I bought mine from, preconfigured with Parallels and XP.

Chck out their current discounts....

http://www.macmall.com/macmall/promotions/custom6.asp?p=apple-sale&WTReferer=http://macmall.com/&wt.mc_id=00000

Chrisrokc
Oct 13, 2008, 06:38 PM
Apple MacBook - Core 2 Duo 2.1 GHz - RAM 1 GB - HDD 120 GB - CD-RW / DVD - GMA X3100 Dynamic Video Memory Technology 4.0 - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : Bluetooth 2.0 EDR, 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft) - MacOS X 10.5 - 13.3" Widescreen TFT 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - camera $1099.00

Apple MacBook - Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 160 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GMA X3100 Dynamic Video Memory Technology 4.0 - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : Bluetooth 2.0 EDR, 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft) - MacOS X 10.5 - 13.3" Widescreen TFT 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - camera $1299.00

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 200 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 15.4" Widescreen TFT 1440 x 900 ( WXGA+ ) - camera TBD

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.5 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 250 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 15.4" Widescreen TFT 1440 x 900 ( WXGA+ ) - camera TBD

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.5 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 250 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 17" Widescreen TFT 1680 x 1050 ( WSXGA+ ) - camera $2799.00


All of this is current macbook and macbook pro specs and prices. Not the new stuff.

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 06:38 PM
The present update will be very meaningful for me, If apple does not provide an alternative for travelers like myself (other than MBA) I will be in the very sad condition of leaving apple for the first time in 15 years.

To quote my social studies teacher, "Wah."

Our computer distributor. It's a very large national, and Canada, distributor.

I'm not under any non-disclosure agreements but still would rather not say who. Suffice it to say that they have nearly 750 of the new MacBook models.

But how do you know? I just feel like that doesn't make any sense that before the keynote, a computer distributor gets the information that only Apple has right now.

EDIT:
All of this is current macbook and macbook pro specs and prices. Not the new stuff.

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought that all looked familiar, I just wasn't sure.

PinkyMacGodess
Oct 13, 2008, 06:39 PM
I can't post the picture because this site appears to only post HTML links but it is the same aluminum of the 'leaked' photos. Same profile. I can't see the keyboard but you can guess that... The specs are from the related items...

THEY ARE HERE!!! Watch tomorrow...

ryanwarsaw
Oct 13, 2008, 06:40 PM
The present update will be very meaningful for me, If apple does not provide an alternative for travelers like myself (other than MBA) I will be in the very sad condition of leaving apple for the first time in 15 years.

I can relate with what you are saying here.

PinkyMacGodess
Oct 13, 2008, 06:41 PM
All of this is current macbook and macbook pro specs and prices. Not the new stuff.

Really? I didn't look. The item picture is the new aluminum picture though... I wish I could post it but not from the link...

iBlender
Oct 13, 2008, 06:41 PM
What are you guy's opinions about whether or not they will be released for sale tomorrow. If not how soon?

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 06:42 PM
What are you guy's opinions about whether or not they will be released for sale tomorrow. If not how soon?

Well, it'd be cool if they were available tomorrow, but even iPods tend not to be available the same day as the keynote. I figure they'll be available about two weeks after the keynote. That's just a guess, mind you.

RQPS
Oct 13, 2008, 06:43 PM
Really? I didn't look. The item picture is the new aluminum picture though... I wish I could post it but not from the link...

If you have a picture then why can't you post?

Chrisrokc
Oct 13, 2008, 06:43 PM
Really? I didn't look. The item picture is the new aluminum picture though... I wish I could post it but not from the link...

Do a screen shot of your desktop with the page pulled up.

sfwalter
Oct 13, 2008, 06:43 PM
Take a screenshot

ryanwarsaw
Oct 13, 2008, 06:44 PM
My guess is available by the weekend in the USA and up to a decade later everywhere else.

iBlender
Oct 13, 2008, 06:46 PM
Well I need them to be released by next wednesday for sale at least online or I'm stuck with this super old outdated one I ordered a month ago but didn't get until last Wednesday.

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 06:46 PM
My guess is available by the weekend in the USA and up to a decade later everywhere else.

Ha! That would suck if that was true.

EDIT: Dammit! Almost had the 200th post! Oh well, I guess I'll have to deal with the 200th reply.

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 06:47 PM
Those holes are already filled they just need to be updated.

The MBP is powerhouse enough for most professionals, it is just in need of a recent update.

The 13" MB did perform well it is just in need of an update.

Hence the reason for the updates tomorrow.

The new 13" Aluminium MacBook might be considered as an "13" MacBook Pro".

MacBook08
Oct 13, 2008, 06:48 PM
I'm wondering, does anyone think that Apple will release a newer version of the Mighty Mouse to go with the new notebooks anytime soon (or maybe at the event)? I'm just kind of disappointed with what I've heard about the current Wireless Mighty Mouse. I know that the new trackpads are going to be great and all but I'm afraid I'll still need a good bluetooth mouse for a few things. The current Wireless Mighty Mouse is over two years old and the design is even older. Why has it been so long (especially since so many have problems with it)?

If you own one and have some advice, that would be great. Thanks.

ryanwarsaw
Oct 13, 2008, 06:48 PM
The reason I guess is they won't be available right away is that would lead to way more leaks. I don't think there are piles of these thing laying around in stores across the world.

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 06:48 PM
The new 13" Aluminium MacBook might be considered as an "13" MacBook Pro".

Which hopefully will stop people from complaining about the lack of a 12" Powerbook replacement and they can just deal with the extra inch.

timish
Oct 13, 2008, 06:49 PM
Apple MacBook - Core 2 Duo 2.1 GHz - RAM 1 GB - HDD 120 GB - CD-RW / DVD - GMA X3100 Dynamic Video Memory Technology 4.0 - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : Bluetooth 2.0 EDR, 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft) - MacOS X 10.5 - 13.3" Widescreen TFT 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - camera $1099.00

Apple MacBook - Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 160 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GMA X3100 Dynamic Video Memory Technology 4.0 - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : Bluetooth 2.0 EDR, 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft) - MacOS X 10.5 - 13.3" Widescreen TFT 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - camera $1299.00

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 200 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 15.4" Widescreen TFT 1440 x 900 ( WXGA+ ) - camera TBD

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.5 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 250 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 15.4" Widescreen TFT 1440 x 900 ( WXGA+ ) - camera TBD

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.5 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 250 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 17" Widescreen TFT 1680 x 1050 ( WSXGA+ ) - camera $2799.00

I'm not sure of the MacBook Pro's but the picture of the MacBooks is dead on what the leaked pictures show... DEAD ON! Definitely aluminum definitely sexy looking. Definitely not under $1,000.00. Although this distributor doesn't handle some residential models for other companies...

They snow massive stock of the new MacBooks. They still have the older MacBooks in large stock. Are they the under $1000.00 notebooks? No Blu-Ray. Yet.


Wow, welcome to the CURRENT GENERATION's hardware spec. :confused:

You just posted what we've known about for the past few months, because that's what's available from Apple right now.

LOL

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 06:49 PM
I'm wondering, does anyone think that Apple will release a newer version of the Mighty Mouse to go with the new notebooks anytime soon

Does anyone see an Aluminium Mighty Mouse? :D

PinkyMacGodess
Oct 13, 2008, 06:50 PM
http://www.politicalpollution.org/images/MB-1.JPG

This isn't the photo for the current white MacBook... Right??? Is this a ruse? I feel so used...

gadgetgirl85
Oct 13, 2008, 06:51 PM
The new 13" Aluminium MacBook might be considered as an "13" MacBook Pro".

I am hoping for some sort of 13" MBP as well.

iBlender
Oct 13, 2008, 06:51 PM
if these come out any later then next wednesday i might have to kill someone cause....I wont get one.

ipodtouchy333
Oct 13, 2008, 06:51 PM
http://www.politicalpollution.org/images/MB-1.JPG

What the heck is that thing?!

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 06:52 PM
Does anyone see an Aluminium Mighty Mouse? :D

Gosh, I hope not. I can't imagine that would be too comfortable; metal makes my hands sweat (sort of? it's weird); does that happen to anyone else? I like the mighty mouse now. Also, wouldn't an aluminum one be much heavier than the current plastic one?

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 06:52 PM
I am hoping for some sort of 13" MBP as well.
And a 15" MacBook can be plausible as well. I can see a market for 15" MacBooks.

Chrisrokc
Oct 13, 2008, 06:52 PM
http://www.politicalpollution.org/images/MB-1.JPG

This isn't the photo for the current white MacBook... Right??? Is this a ruse? I feel so used...

That is the current one.

PinkyMacGodess
Oct 13, 2008, 06:52 PM
Does anyone see an Aluminium Mighty Mouse? :D

With 2 buttons?

RQPS
Oct 13, 2008, 06:52 PM
http://www.politicalpollution.org/images/MB-1.JPG

You said they were aluminum like the leaked pictures that Macbook is white plastic?

and you got the picture here http://www.politicalpollution.org/images/MB-1.JPG

204467
Oct 13, 2008, 06:53 PM
http://www.politicalpollution.org/images/MB-1.JPG

This isn't the photo for the current white MacBook... Right??? Is this a ruse? I feel so used...

Wow, you got seriously played. Don't worry, it wasn't your fault, you just didn't know every single piece of Mac knowledge like some people here.

EDIT: Or were you trying to play everyone else? Kind of worked.

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 06:54 PM
With 2 buttons?

I do not mind either way.

moebius
Oct 13, 2008, 06:55 PM
http://www.politicalpollution.org/images/MB-1.JPG

This isn't the photo for the current white MacBook... Right??? Is this a ruse? I feel so used...


That is a new Dell.

redmeister
Oct 13, 2008, 06:56 PM
haha ohhh the anticipation

puffnstuff
Oct 13, 2008, 06:57 PM
http://www.politicalpollution.org/images/MB-1.JPG

This isn't the photo for the current white MacBook... Right??? Is this a ruse? I feel so used...

http://codebloo.net/stuff/picard-headesk.jpg

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 06:57 PM
haha ohhh the anticipation

It will be just as crazy and intense tomorrow.

happydude
Oct 13, 2008, 06:58 PM
RIP MacBooks with great wifi range. Get ready for marginal aluminum based wifi reception. awesome.

twilsonchicago
Oct 13, 2008, 06:58 PM
Apple MacBook - Core 2 Duo 2.1 GHz - RAM 1 GB - HDD 120 GB - CD-RW / DVD - GMA X3100 Dynamic Video Memory Technology 4.0 - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : Bluetooth 2.0 EDR, 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft) - MacOS X 10.5 - 13.3" Widescreen TFT 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - camera $1099.00

Apple MacBook - Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 160 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GMA X3100 Dynamic Video Memory Technology 4.0 - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : Bluetooth 2.0 EDR, 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft) - MacOS X 10.5 - 13.3" Widescreen TFT 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - camera $1299.00

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 200 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 15.4" Widescreen TFT 1440 x 900 ( WXGA+ ) - camera TBD

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.5 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 250 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 15.4" Widescreen TFT 1440 x 900 ( WXGA+ ) - camera TBD

Apple MacBook Pro - Core 2 Duo 2.5 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 250 GB - DVD±RW (±R DL) - GF 8600M GT - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft), Bluetooth 2.1 EDR - MacOS X 10.5 - 17" Widescreen TFT 1680 x 1050 ( WSXGA+ ) - camera $2799.00

I'm not sure of the MacBook Pro's but the picture of the MacBooks is dead on what the leaked pictures show... DEAD ON! Definitely aluminum definitely sexy looking. Definitely not under $1,000.00. Although this distributor doesn't handle some residential models for other companies...

They snow massive stock of the new MacBooks. They still have the older MacBooks in large stock. Are they the under $1000.00 notebooks? No Blu-Ray. Yet.

I think those are the current models. The 8 month old MBP 17 I'm typing this on has all those specs PLUS BTO 4GB RAM, 300GB drive, 2.6GHz and hi-rez display.

-T

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 06:58 PM
RIP MacBooks with great wifi range. Get ready for marginal aluminum based wifi reception. awesome.

My Aluminium iMac has as great reception as my Plastic white MacBook.

artbrana
Oct 13, 2008, 06:58 PM
http://www.politicalpollution.org/images/MB-1.JPG

This isn't the photo for the current white MacBook... Right??? Is this a ruse? I feel so used...

wow man you got me freakin scared dude!!!!!

cuz i cant afford to get the 1,299 macbook im looking for the 1,099 macbook and i seriously hope thats not a combodrive but a superdrive

RyanR.
Oct 13, 2008, 06:59 PM
[QUOTE=MyMelange;6403655]Hi,

I am new to your awesome mac forum and have a few questions.

I am converting from a PC to a Mac!!! Yeah!

I have been waiting patiently for the new macbooks to arrive so I can decide between purchasing the current macbook or the new one.

I have a few questions for all you knowledgeable Mac users.

1. How soon will the new models be available to test and buy in stores after the press release tomorrow?

2. What do they do with the old models? Do they still have them available at a discount? How much of a discount would you expect?

3. I am not a gamer and I don't use video- I will use this for blogging, writing, picture and file storage, photo editing and heavy internet usage. My current Dell desktop is 1.0Ghz/1GB/160GB and seems to work fine for what I need. I want speed, and the ability to have several applications open and running at once. Would you recommend that I stick to buying the current macbook version 2.4 Ghz/2GB/250GB at full price, waiting to see if I can buy said model at a discount after the new ones are released or is there something miraculous expected in the new upgrade that would affect me so that I should wait to buy the new model?

Sheesh. I know that is alot, but I'd appreciate any help!

I am a switcher too! I switched a little over a year ago. If you don't care about the new stuff coming tomorrow then I recommend buying a refub from apple.com. I bought a 24" iMac and a Black macbook and saved a lot of cash. plus both times I recieved more than what I expected. the imac came with 750GB hard drive expected 500 and macbook came w/ 160GB&2GB of mem expected 120&1
Called apple the first time about imac
they asked if I was okay with the product, I said yes.
they said it's yours!never call about the macbook I figure they fix'em and ship 'em. This also happened to a friend of mine plus they still come with the same warranty.

PinkyMacGodess
Oct 13, 2008, 06:59 PM
Wow, you got seriously played. Don't worry, it wasn't your fault, you just didn't know every single piece of Mac knowledge like some people here.

EDIT: Or were you trying to play everyone else? Kind of worked.

So that's the current white one? But the picture is different from the white ones in the distributor's website. That is different from the other ones. There are several different models of MacBooks and some have the current pictures (black AND white) and some have this one. The ones with the high stock show this picture, the other ones show the older picture and not so much stock. The white ones show it face on with the screen open, these are different. Honest... That is from the website of the distributor. You need to be logged in to see it.

I've been played... Sorry. Nothing to see here, move along...

*mumble mumble* I could have sworn they were different... Honest... Drat!

wingnut8
Oct 13, 2008, 07:00 PM
I just want something more portable than my MBP for around $800 PLEAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE!

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 07:01 PM
*mumble mumble* I could have sworn they were different... Honest... Drat!
The mind can play tricks from the great anticipation.

MacBook08
Oct 13, 2008, 07:01 PM
RIP MacBooks with great wifi range. Get ready for marginal aluminum based wifi reception. awesome.

Well, some have speculated that the outer shell will be plastic (with inner aluminum). If this is true, the MacBook would get excellent reception. Plus, we already know the new Airport Cards are behind the screen which would give it even better reception.

PinkyMacGodess
Oct 13, 2008, 07:02 PM
You said they were aluminum like the leaked pictures that Macbook is white plastic?

and you got the picture here http://www.politicalpollution.org/images/MB-1.JPG

That's where I stuck it to post it... Crap... Ok, I'm sufficiently embarrassed now...

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 07:02 PM
That's where I stuck it to post it... Crap... Ok, I'm sufficiently embarrassed now...

It is not embarrassing. Sometimes stuff like this happens. You just have to let it go easily and everything will be fine.

puffnstuff
Oct 13, 2008, 07:04 PM
Anybody else thinks pinky could possibly be trolling?

:raises hand:

DJ Goldman
Oct 13, 2008, 07:04 PM
so can you buy the macbook tomorrow

iBlender
Oct 13, 2008, 07:04 PM
That's where I stuck it to post it... Crap... Ok, I'm sufficiently embarrassed now...
:mad:
I swear to god if I hear one more peep out of you...:p

iBlender
Oct 13, 2008, 07:05 PM
so you can definetally buy the macbook tomorrow

why is this?

moebius
Oct 13, 2008, 07:05 PM
RIP MacBooks with great wifi range. Get ready for marginal aluminum based wifi reception. awesome.

I have an old Ti-Book, never gave a problem with the reception.
Same case with my 12".

Eric S.
Oct 13, 2008, 07:05 PM
My Aluminium iMac has as great reception as my Plastic white MacBook.

And my black Macbook drops the wifi connection a lot more often than my iBook G4, which is rock-solid and never drops the connection. Normally it's not noticeable since it scans and picks up the router again almost immediately. But it's very annoying when connected over VPN because the entire session is lost. It's gotten to the point where now if I have to use VPN I use the iBook.

ryanwarsaw
Oct 13, 2008, 07:06 PM
With 2 buttons?

And a scroll button that works?

MyMelange
Oct 13, 2008, 07:07 PM
Well, some have speculated that the outer shell will be plastic (with inner aluminum). If this is true, the MacBook would get excellent reception. Plus, we already know the new Airport Cards are behind the screen which would give it even better reception.

Another quick question- so do the plastic macbooks get better wifi reception than the alum mapbookpros?

PinkyMacGodess
Oct 13, 2008, 07:09 PM
so you can definetally buy the macbook tomorrow

You know, what threw me (out the window evidently) was that they, the distributor, has such HUGE stock of these. I mean like really, one model is over 800 in stock! For last years garbage, that's a lot to be carrying. Like a whole lot. Most of the MacBooks are over 500 in stock.

Did Apple just flood their distributors with this 'old stock'? How nice of them. I mean, figure this way, as soon as the new model comes out this will be like trying to get people to date your sister. Right? If they know you, you have a tough sell...

I can't speak of anything except that I jumped the shark, or was it the couch. I forget...

DJ Goldman
Oct 13, 2008, 07:09 PM
can some one please answer if you can buy the new macbook tomorrow because i was told by a realiable source that you can

PinkyMacGodess
Oct 13, 2008, 07:10 PM
And a scroll button that works?

What, you no lika the small ball? :D

ryanwarsaw
Oct 13, 2008, 07:11 PM
Another quick question- so do the plastic macbooks get better wifi reception than the alum mapbookpros?

Yes, they do. I am not sure if this has ever even been in doubt.

puffnstuff
Oct 13, 2008, 07:11 PM
do they have backup in case SJ drops dead? Because you know it's going to happen soon I just want to make sure the keynote goes off without a hitch.

PinkyMacGodess
Oct 13, 2008, 07:13 PM
can some one please answer if you can buy the new macbook tomorrow because i was told by a realiable source that you can

Sorry. If you can, you can.

I'd think that Jobs wouldn't want to look like that old (probably before y'all's time)IBM comic of the IBM salesman sitting on the end of the bed telling a rather undressed woman how good it would be, when it came out later that year.

IBM used to 'pre-announce' stuff like crazy and then wondered why their stuff didn't sell... DUH!!! They once pre-announced a microcode bump for a midrange mainframe and sales plummeted. Well, why buy the slow current model when if you waited 6 months you could get the faster current model... their sales division was too good at selling what their engineering division hadn't produced yet...

Eric S.
Oct 13, 2008, 07:14 PM
can some one please answer if you can buy the new macbook tomorrow because i was told by a realiable source that you can

If your source was reliable why are you questioning it? :rolleyes:

Do you think the random person here will be more reliable?

MacBook08
Oct 13, 2008, 07:14 PM
do they have backup in case SJ drops dead? Because you know it's going to happen soon I just want to make sure the keynote goes off without a hitch.

Ha..you're just pissed off at Mr. Jobs cause he won't give you your tablet. JUST KIDDING!

kabunaru
Oct 13, 2008, 07:15 PM
can some one please answer if you can buy the new macbook tomorrow because i was told by a realiable source that you can

I heard on Wednesday/ Australian/New Zealand/East Asia Thursday you can. :)

PinkyMacGodess
Oct 13, 2008, 07:15 PM
Ha..you're just pissed off at Mr. Jobs cause he won't give you your tablet.

Don't look at me... ;) :D :eek: :confused: :rolleyes: :o :apple: