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wowoah
Feb 5, 2004, 09:17 PM
Hey everyone, I have a question that I've been thinking about for a while, but haven't found a satisfactory conclusion to. I'm a student with lots of important files on my computer (as I'm sure everyone does) and I'm wondering how you guys backup your stuff? The best way I can think of is to get my hands on an 20GB firewire drive or so and just sync the drive on my laptop to that, which would allow me to keep virtually an identical copy of my important files at home while I take my laptop around. The only thing is that I can't seem to find a cheap 20GB drive anywhere.
Does anyone know where I can get a cheap 20GB drive?
OR
Does anyone have another method of backing up their files that you'd care to share with me? :)
Thanks a lot everyone!
Spock
Feb 5, 2004, 09:20 PM
I back up my files on my iPod it works pretty good and I have my files when ever I have my iPod.
P.S I have my personal files encryted in case my iPod is stolen.
Frohickey
Feb 5, 2004, 09:24 PM
Head turned to the rear
One hand on the steering wheel
Very slowly. :p
Spock
Feb 5, 2004, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by Frohickey
Head turned to the rear
One hand on the steering wheel
Very slowly. :p
What Ever Dude.
tjwett
Feb 5, 2004, 10:39 PM
I use Backup to keep important text files, docs, passwords, receipts, etc backed up onto my iDisk and I use a LaCie 80 Gig FireWire drive to keep a mirror image of my Home folder using the SilverKeeper app it comes with. It's working well for me right now.
IndyGopher
Feb 5, 2004, 10:59 PM
I guess I am old fashioned... I backup everything to a 400gig SNAP server, and then from there backup the important stuff to a 280gig robotic tape library. I then take each rotation (7 tapes) to work where I store them in a fireproof safe. Retrospect automates the backup to the SNAP server, and Veritas automates the backup to the tape library. I see 2 or 3 machines a day come into my workplace with some schmoe babbling about how they have hypercritical data on a computer or drive for which they have no backup. I prefer being labeled paranoid about my backup solution to being one of the people I chuckle at while charging $160 an hour to try and resurrect data that should have been backed up... The people with no backup strategy surpasses even the people who have years-old virus definitions for their antivirus software.
spencecb
Feb 5, 2004, 11:14 PM
I got a Lacie Firewire drive...120 Gigs...I only have a 30 gig harddrive on my PowerBook, but I figured if i get a large firewire drive, it can back up this computer, and will also be able to back up files on my G5 when I get it...at least for a while, because I have mine ordered with 250gigs...but, i would suggest the Lacie firewire drive...it works well and has an extra firewire port on the back of the drive so you're not even using up a port on your Mac!!
sethypoo
Feb 5, 2004, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by Frohickey
Head turned to the rear
One hand on the steering wheel
Very slowly. :p
What is that supposed to mean?!?
Rower_CPU
Feb 5, 2004, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by Frohickey
Head turned to the rear
One hand on the steering wheel
Very slowly. :p
You beat me to it. ;)
Usually just burn a DVD or throw files onto a firewire drive.
Wren
Feb 6, 2004, 02:16 AM
I've used the backup from my iDisk on my .Mac account. It is more cost effective than investing hundreds of dollars on a Firewire HD. I do have a couple of external HD though. A small one from SmartDisk and a bigger one from La Cie.:)
Horrortaxi
Feb 6, 2004, 02:27 AM
I have a couple small files that change regularly but are very important (Quicken, for instance) that I back up to iDisk every day. Calendars, contacts, and bookmarks are backed up to iSync every couple days or whenever something changes. I use Backup to back up my home folder to an external drive roughly every week. Then every month or so, just for fun, I burn a DVD and leave it at work. At total catastrophic drive failure wouldn't screw me up too badly.
tjwett
Feb 6, 2004, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by sethypoo
What is that supposed to mean?!?
just think about it dude. it'll hit you tonight when you're about to fall asleep and you'll have a laugh. :p
KC9AIC
Feb 6, 2004, 03:05 AM
I back up occasionally on a CD-R, and keep the same files on multiple computers. I also have a few files on an old 640 MB Magneto-optical disk. I would back up a whole lot more if I had an external hard drive and a program. Doing all this manually makes me kind of lax on keeping up.
Frohickey, I got your joke immediately, and grinned as I thought of myself backing up a pickup truck and taking out a wall from a garage. (I don't drive)
Nermal
Feb 6, 2004, 03:51 AM
I'm terrible at backups. I wait until I have a problem :eek:
HexMonkey
Feb 6, 2004, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by Nermal
I'm terrible at backups. I wait until I have a problem :eek:
Ditto. Actually, my hard disk failed in December, and I had very few backups. Luckily I was able to recover most of my data, but it was certainly a wakeup call.
MacBandit
Feb 6, 2004, 04:27 AM
I have multiple spare internal drives and an iPod that I back up to. Also I back up to DVD or CD depending on my needs.
Hard drives are cheap.
the future
Feb 6, 2004, 04:41 AM
Firewire HD + Carbon Copy Cloner = marriage made in heaven! :)
MacBandit
Feb 6, 2004, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by the future
Firewire HD + Carbon Copy Cloner = marriage made in heaven! :)
That's exactly what I use with all my drives.
blue&whiteman
Feb 6, 2004, 01:05 PM
I have what I think is a good routine. I simply only back up important files and pref files by burning a backup cdr. I have a 120GB all one partition that I boot from and install all my apps on. I also have a 6GB that has a 5GB partition with another panther install and a 1GB partition with OS9. I use this 6 GB drive to boot from to run all utilities on the 120. this method seems to work well and far better than running utilities off a booted CD. booted cds are far slower and less stable. plus in my internal liteon burner won't boot any boot disk so to use a cd boot I would have to swap the burner for the original rom. my way is much faster, more stable and easier. my point to all this is that my machine is so stable by doing all this that I feel no need to back up anything but my big downloads.
wordmunger
Feb 6, 2004, 01:24 PM
When I ran a business and had gigs and gigs of critical files, we backed up the server to tape every night and the IT manager took them home with him. It's important to have the backup in a different physical place--what if the office burnt down or flooded?
Now that I'm working at home as a writer my critical files take up much less space--I can easily back up all my writing and financial files to idisk. I've backed up my photos to CDs, but we'd be out of luck with them if the house burnt down. However, the best photos are also online (in lower res form), so even in that scenario we wouldn't lose all our pictures.
Makosuke
Feb 6, 2004, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by the future
Firewire HD + Carbon Copy Cloner = marriage made in heaven! :) Ditto here. In my case, I have a lot of data, but a lot of it isn't really critical (video scratch files), so I can't justify spending so much to back the whole mess up.
So, I have a 120GB FW drive (cheap do-it-yourself case) with two partitions: One for the OS, that I use CCC with--this is great because I can restore from the backup (in case of software failure, which is more likely than mechanical failure for me) or boot directly off of it in a matter of minutes. Then, I use the rest of the drive to back up only the folders I feel I might need to keep around.
I really should be better about keeping at least critical files on a CDR or DVD somewhere else physically, in case my house burns down, but I figure the REALLY irreplacable stuff I do is all on the web, anyway.
Hemingray
Feb 6, 2004, 01:50 PM
Retrospect and a secondary 20GB internal hard drive.
I got a 120GB hard drive a couple years back and slaved over my original 20GB. I use it now as a backup drive for my most important files in my home directory. Now I know that technically speaking, a slaved internal drive is a borderline true backup method, but it works.
virividox
Feb 6, 2004, 02:10 PM
thats why i have an external hd, ftp, and dvd burner
michaelrjohnson
Feb 6, 2004, 02:19 PM
all of my personal files are on an external HD anyways, but several times a year, i will slowly burn all of my files to cds @ 4x speed... it's fun.
i hope to change that with a new computer... sometime this year... {sigh}
chv400
Feb 6, 2004, 02:50 PM
There is a 30 gig firewire drive at Shrevesytems for 69$
http://www.shrevesystems.com/
r6girl
Feb 6, 2004, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Frohickey
Head turned to the rear
One hand on the steering wheel
Very slowly. :p
:D
i use carbon copy cloner to clone my drive to my 30 gb ipod. i love having my stuff wherever i go just in case. however, i'm probably going to run out of space eventually, so i'll probably switch to an external firewire drive, or get a larger capacity ipod (whenever more than 40gb comes out). i also use backup with my .mac account. a little paranoid, i guess, though i've never had any problems losing files.
marianne
I CCC my Home folder to my external 120GB. I don't feel the need to back up any of the system, because technically they're already backedup on the OS cd ;p. Oh, and my apps are in my home folder as well. Except for apple apps, because they need to be in the Application folder to get software update Updates.
MacBandit
Feb 6, 2004, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by 7on
I CCC my Home folder to my external 120GB. I don't feel the need to back up any of the system, because technically they're already backedup on the OS cd ;p. Oh, and my apps are in my home folder as well. Except for apple apps, because they need to be in the Application folder to get software update Updates.
The reason many of us backup our entire drive is so in a situation that the system does not start up we have another drive to startup from and recover the first drive.
chv400
Feb 6, 2004, 08:14 PM
Granite Digital
http://www.granitedigital.com/
sells a thing where you but a box and an HD tray where you put in an ATA HD and plug it into your comp like a firewire drive. Then when it fill up you buy another HD and tray and you stick that one into the box. And reapeat the process when the HD fills. If all you do is back up your user each HD should give you a good many backups
I don't have that many critical files on my computer. Most of the stuff on my hard drive is music and photos (backed up on CD-R's) and records of old projects, which I never look at anyways. Actually I only have those because I'm too lazy to clean up my hard drive. The current project I'm working on is always uploaded to a remote server and on multiple computers, and that's about the only thing that I realy need. Anything else I could live without, and I could restore the system from the install disk.
trashyspaceman
Feb 7, 2004, 12:17 AM
Real Men don't make backups. They upload it via ftp and let the world mirror it. -- Linus Torvalds
Seriously though, I recommend rsync for backing up over some kind of network:
1) Install rsync on your comp and the comp[s] you want to back up on.
2) Run sshd (ssh server) (assuming you're backup comp is a mac, click "Allow remote logins" in the Network section of your System Preferences) on the backup comp[s].
2) Run Terminal.app on your comp, type
ssh myusername@myBackupComp'sIP
to test if the server is working (if you can login then it works)
3) Run
rsync -CtrlvzP mydirtobackup/ myusername@myBackupComp'sIP:mybackupdir/
And rsync will send the minimum amount of info over the network such that the contents of mydirtobackup/ exist in mybackupdir/
Local HD backups (i.e. firewire drive) are good also, or you might consider having a script running on your main comp that keeps a record or all new/changed files/dirs, which can later be burnt to CD, etc., instead of burning everything.
-m
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