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MacRumors
Dec 2, 2008, 04:25 AM
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Macworld announced (http://www.macworld.com/article/137228/2008/12/expo.html) on Monday that the "early bird" registration (http://www.macworldexpo.com/SitePage.aspx?site=9&id=99a00656-1693-43aa-b5be-54c04d038a1c) for Macworld San Francisco 2009 will be extended until December 8th. The early registration provides a discount on the price of admission. Basic expo floor passes can be had for $25, while the possibility of Keynote access is restricted to those with tickets of $250 or more. Macworld Expo takes place from January 5th to 9th, 2009 and represents the likely venue for Apple's next product announcements.

A number of products are expected to be unveiled at or around Macworld. Long running rumors have suggested that Apple's iMac and Mac mini are due for imminent updates. Mac Pro suitable Nehalem processors are due in the first quarter (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/11/13/mac-pro-suitable-nehalem-core-i7-processors-due-in-1st-quarter-2009/) and we've long heard that the remainder of the Cinema Displays (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/08/06/new-apple-cinema-displays-finally-at-mwsf-2009/) will be updated at MWSF.

Meanwhile, an unconfirmed tip at MacBlogz (http://www.macblogz.com/2008/11/03/32gb-iphone-3g-making-its-debut-at-macworld-2009/) even claims that Apple might introduce a 32GB iPhone at Macworld 2009. While these "storage bump" predictions are easy to make, the technology may be poised to become available at the right timeframe.

The reason the largest iPhone (16GB) currently has 1/2 the memory of the largest iPod touch (32GB) is that the iPhone can only house a single NAND Flash chip while the iPod touch can accommodate two. The additional space in the iPhone is taken up by its communication hardware. In August (http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2008_08/pr0701.htm), Toshiba announced that they would begin mass production of higher density 32GB chips in the 4th quarter of 2008. These chips could presumably be used in future iPhone and iPod touch models. Another intriguing announcement came from Intel (http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/11/24/intel.34nm.32gb.chip.ships/) who has developed Flash chips that could increase this maximum to 64GB by early 2009.



Article Link: Macworld San Francisco 2009 Registration, New Macs, 32GB iPhones? (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/12/01/macworld-san-francisco-2009-registration-new-macs-32gb-iphones/)



Dejavu
Dec 2, 2008, 04:29 AM
Apple TV refresh, hopefully.

Come on Steve, surprise us with a hardware upgrade: 1080P and 3.5" hard drive in a new form factor.

Schtumple
Dec 2, 2008, 04:31 AM
If the Mac Mini doesn't get updated I'll be pretty shocked... The specs on it are pretty dire for the price...

Piplodocus
Dec 2, 2008, 04:35 AM
What about the 17" MBP?

Moriarty
Dec 2, 2008, 04:39 AM
Here's hoping for:

- 17-inch Unibody Macbook Pro (perhaps they are working in a surprise for the 17-inch given the time delay... NVIDIA 9800 GPU perhaps? A bit wishful for a machine so thin though, I think...)
- New iMacs are due out soon
- Completely redesigned Mac Mini w/ at least NVIDIA 9400 graphics
- New ACD line
- Matte options for all displays (perhaps a matte finish can be applied with some sort of coating over the glass at the factory...)

But that's too much to launch at one time, I think... so it isn't all going to happen :(

OriginalMacRat
Dec 2, 2008, 04:57 AM
What about the 17" MBP?

What about it?

It was just updated in October.

pfml07
Dec 2, 2008, 04:59 AM
Here's hoping for:

- 17-inch Unibody Macbook Pro (perhaps they are working in a surprise for the 17-inch given the time delay... NVIDIA 9800 GPU perhaps? A bit wishful for a machine so thin though, I think...)
- New iMacs are due out soon
- Completely redesigned Mac Mini w/ at least NVIDIA 9400 graphics
- New ACD line
- Matte options for all displays (perhaps a matte finish can be applied with some sort of coating over the glass at the factory...)

But that's too much to launch at one time, I think... so it isn't all going to happen :(

Lets pray that apple do give a matte finish option. Please please please.
Other than that some good points were made there. The new imacs cant be long now and hopefully the mac mini might get a slight make over, making it easier to take apart!! Working with macs is usually ok, but those mac mini's, not fun to be taking apart.

Oh well, bring it on (m)Apple
Woo Hoo!

surroundfan
Dec 2, 2008, 04:59 AM
What about it?

It was just updated in October.

Yes, but not in the new Unibody style...

I've just got an offer for uni next year, so I really, really want a new Mac Mini for HTPC duties. The current one will be relegated to word processing now that I need to set up a study...

Michael CM1
Dec 2, 2008, 05:00 AM
What about it?

It was just updated in October.

Nope, it was left out in the cold. I can't imagine it not getting the works treatment by MW09.

iWizzard
Dec 2, 2008, 05:05 AM
Wishlist
Iphone
Bluetooth support in Iphone
somethig simular to Blackberry storms SureType.

Mac mini or apple TV
Need a little more power / 1080P support (for Boxee and matroska)

Michael CM1
Dec 2, 2008, 05:06 AM
Apple TV refresh, hopefully.

Come on Steve, surprise us with a hardware upgrade: 1080P and 3.5" hard drive in a new form factor.

I think it already can do 1080p, but there's no content available.

But never mind that. I agree with the 3.5" HDD change. While making it slightly bigger, it also would allow crazy storage (hello 1TB) and would reduce cost per GB.

I'm also for adding an optical drive and giving it an actual OS of some sort and not that POS thing on there now. Provide some remote control that can do more than an old-school Nintendo controller. Just make it semi-simple like a DVD remote but allow stuff like audio selection, subtitles, etc. Adding a DVD player would entice a LOT of people who want as few boxes as possible and aren't on the Blu-ray bandwagon yet. If they can work out the Blu-ray headache, add a BD option. Such a device with the footprint of a MacBook would be kickass.

Add Netflix streaming to such a unit and I may mess myself.

mgauss
Dec 2, 2008, 05:08 AM
9" iTablet

orpheus1120
Dec 2, 2008, 05:18 AM
Yes, but not in the new Unibody style...

I've just got an offer for uni next year, so I really, really want a new Mac Mini for HTPC duties. The current one will be relegated to word processing now that I need to set up a study...

Specs are upgraded. However, if the 17" gets updated with unibody and matte option, I'll be getting another one.

theGreenHornet
Dec 2, 2008, 05:19 AM
really hoping for a new well improved imac... was going to get the new macbook pro, but it was quite a disappointment soooo im tired of waiting :D

...gotta change the sig.

rstansby
Dec 2, 2008, 05:25 AM
I'm also for adding an optical drive and giving it an actual OS of some sort and not that POS thing on there now. Provide some remote control that can do more than an old-school Nintendo controller. Just make it semi-simple like a DVD remote but allow stuff like audio selection, subtitles, etc. Adding a DVD player would entice a LOT of people who want as few boxes as possible and aren't on the Blu-ray bandwagon yet. If they can work out the Blu-ray headache, add a BD option. Such a device with the footprint of a MacBook would be kickass.


Sounds like you need a mac mini. It has most of the features you are missing.

kk1ro
Dec 2, 2008, 05:28 AM
I'm hoping for Snow Leopard-related news.
That and getting iTunes movie downloads and rentals in Portugal and the rest of Europe. Come on, Apple... We've been waiting a looong time...

Unfortunately, I promised myself I'd only buy a new MBP when the mobile quad-core chips come out (my mid-2007 15.4" 2.4GHz still kicks ass), so no new hardware for me.

P.S.: I'm also interested in:
-New uses for the Bluetooth chip in the 2G Touch. Since it can do Bluetooth, WiFi and FM simultaneously, we'll probably see FM receiving capabilities and the ability to connect to Bluetooth headphones.
Also, it would be kickass if Apple released a GPS receiver (or allowed the use of third-party Bluetooth accessories such as a GPS receiver) for the Touch!

-The release of an online infrastructure (à la Xbox Live) so all games can share the same system for leaderboards, matchmaking, text/audio chat, etc...

I know it's wishful thinking but that'd be great!

jshbckr
Dec 2, 2008, 05:34 AM
I would love for a 32GB iPhone!

I've had an 8GB since launch and silly me, I didn't buy the AppleCare. Now the Wi-Fi has been going all wonky and I decided I would wait to get a new iPhone.

So c'mon, January, you can't come soon enough!

Gee4orce
Dec 2, 2008, 05:43 AM
If the limitation of the iPhone storage is that it can only hold a single chip, compared to the iPod touch which an hold 2, then a 32GB iPhone can only mean one thing: a 64GB iPod touch ! :D

MagicWok
Dec 2, 2008, 05:46 AM
I expect
- Lot's of Snow Leopard stuff.
- 17" unibody MBP, same basic hardware. I'll wager there will be no matte option :mad:
- 32GB iPhone.

I hope
- Mac Pro Core i7 update (though any display-port connectivity depends on nVidia)
- Announcement of new iWork/iLife suite to be launched with Snow Leopard.
- 64GB iPod Touch

Believe it when I see it :rolleyes:
- Mac Mini updates (...Apple has a Mac Mini? :P)
- Matte screen options for the MBP's (...got to be kidding)
- Blu-ray (...yeah right)

I'd actually love a 32GB iPhone as I've just had a sweet corporate deal come through for O2.

kevzy
Dec 2, 2008, 06:27 AM
I really hop we'll see a 64GB iPod touch.....

Digital Skunk
Dec 2, 2008, 06:34 AM
I expect
- Lot's of Snow Leopard stuff.
- 17" unibody MBP, same basic hardware. I'll wager there will be no matte option :mad:
- 32GB iPhone.

I hope
- Mac Pro Core i7 update (though any display-port connectivity depends on nVidia)
- Announcement of new iWork/iLife suite to be launched with Snow Leopard.
- 64GB iPod Touch

Believe it when I see it :rolleyes:
- Mac Mini updates (...Apple has a Mac Mini? :P)
- Matte screen options for the MBP's (...got to be kidding)
- Blu-ray (...yeah right)

I'd actually love a 32GB iPhone as I've just had a sweet corporate deal come through for O2.

You pretty much said it here. I would love to see the 64GB iPod Touch to go along with any 32GB iPhone. I doubt they'll be launched at Macworld, but a quiet update would be nice.

I really want to see that 17" Unibody MBP, and I am eager to see if Apple is going to F**& that one up too.

MIDI_EVIL
Dec 2, 2008, 06:42 AM
I don't see it possible that Apple will release matte option on MBP, since they would have to redesign the screen and framing around it. Unless of course, they add a coating to the glass, but this isn't true matte.

At the very least, we will get Mac Pro updates, Cinema Display updates and there will be a lot of talk about Snow Leopard.

robinp
Dec 2, 2008, 06:55 AM
Yes Mac Pro please

dalvin200
Dec 2, 2008, 06:56 AM
my predictions..

snow leopard announcements..
possible iphone firmware

ilife 09 / iwork 09

iphone 32gb/ipod touch 64gb

bumps to imac specs, but no new design

mbp unibody

updated appletv and updated mini
maybe both fused into 1 device..

and that's it.. can't expect more than that :)

Porco
Dec 2, 2008, 07:01 AM
I caved in and asked for a 32GB iPod Touch for Christmas even though I'd love 64GB, so I have little doubt the 64GB model will be out in January... :p

kornyboy
Dec 2, 2008, 07:18 AM
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I'd really like to see a 32GB iPhone and a 64GB iPod Touch. These would be nice additions and I think that Apple would sell a few more units with this.

jerman2
Dec 2, 2008, 07:31 AM
What is the typical time period that you can buy an iphone in and still be able to upgrade/return it after?

I've been thinking of getting an iphone for a bit, but wouldn't want to miss out on a 32gig one. Is there a 30 day trial period or the like in which I can return the phone and buy a new one if it comes out (i.e. if the iphone is introduced jan 9th, can I buy an iphone dec 9th and still be somewhat assured that I'd be able to return the 16gig one and get the 32gig one)?

Thanks

Shaun, UK
Dec 2, 2008, 07:34 AM
64Gb iPhone & iPod Touch for everyday use.

7" iPod Touch - ideal for travelling/holidays and as an eBook reader.

BrokenChairs
Dec 2, 2008, 07:39 AM
I'm only interested to see what they do desktop wise really.

Superman07
Dec 2, 2008, 07:58 AM
As much as I have been waiting for a new Mini to enter the Mac market, if a mini-display port is the only connection option (and no adapters available by then) I may consider skipping Macs for another year or two until some of these issues get worked out.

themoonisdown09
Dec 2, 2008, 08:08 AM
The only thing I real care about at Macworld this year is a 32 GB iPhone. I'm not in need of anything else.

Schtumple
Dec 2, 2008, 08:09 AM
17" MBP
Mac Mini update
Possibly iPhone 32GB
Possibly Snow Leopard details

That's my conservative estimate.

iOrlando
Dec 2, 2008, 08:11 AM
at this point it is easier to say what wont be updated....

macbook line
ipod line (maybe storage upgrade..but i doubt it)


everything else is on table..


apple tv...doubt it..still a hobby
no blu-ray news...

sirbobbyuk
Dec 2, 2008, 08:12 AM
That would be a show stopper...all jobbs needs to do is say hang on guys let really supprise the buying pubic and jump from 16 to 64.
If that happened i would have to give my wallet to my gf and tell to hide it....... COS I WOULD BUY IT IN AN INSTANT AND SOD THE CREDIT CRUNCH.:eek:

regards

sir bobby:D

jfw18338
Dec 2, 2008, 08:15 AM
I'm sure they'll announce a 32gb iPhone. When I went in to the Apple store in this summer after 2.0 jacked up my wifi I was talking to the genius and he said when they set-up the displays there was a white iPhone that said 16gb on the back enclosure but when hooked up to the computer the available memory was 32gb. Here is comes...

shyfidelity
Dec 2, 2008, 08:24 AM
Here's hoping for an iPhone firmware update! The more I think about it, push notifications will be a game-changer.

Tallest Skil
Dec 2, 2008, 08:27 AM
MacWorld 2009

Talk about Snow Leopard. No release. Whose idea was that, anyway?
Talk about how great iTunes is doing. Of course.
Transition into the movies part of iTunes, leading to...
Apple TV update of some sort.
After that, Montevina iMac updates. Montevina for the Mac Mini, too, provided it hasn't been merged with Apple TV.
That's really it. Silent 17" MacBook Pro update, silent 30" Cinema Display update, discontinuation of the 20" Cinema Display.

That's probably what we'll see. Nehalem Mac Pro updates a week or so after the keynote.

What I would LIKE to see come out of MacWorld: (I do not believe for one second that they will do this)

Apple TV with Apple's DVR patents put to action. As in, it's a set-top-box with features rivaling or surpassing the Slingbox (or whatever the best one is).
13.3" MacTablet. MacBook Air internals, 13.3" multitouch screen. Slab style (one piece; none of this rotating screen crap). $1,999 and $2,299.

Umbongo
Dec 2, 2008, 08:28 AM
- Mac Pro Core i7 update (though any display-port connectivity depends on nVidia)

All the most likely Nvidia and ATI cards for the next Mac Pro have versions with a DisplayPort connector so that shouldn't be an issue. By all accounts the Xeon DP Nehalem platform will not be ready for January and we are more likely to see a March-May release.

Apple Ink
Dec 2, 2008, 08:35 AM
Just two things:

Snow Leopard running on a Brand New Mac!

kdarling
Dec 2, 2008, 08:41 AM
The new Nokia N97 has 32GB... PLUS a slot for up to 16GB more.

CaryMacGuy
Dec 2, 2008, 08:42 AM
I am still holding out hope that Apple will somehow expand their iPhone carrier footprint in the US. I have a feeling that Verizon makes the disparaging remarks about the iPhone because they realize that they made a mistake in passing it up (sometimes people put down others to take the spotlight off themselves). Plus, people make all kinds of remarks publicly while other deals are going on behind closed doors. For all we know, Apple has told them to but on an anti-iPhone front so they can make an even bigger splash when the device is (inevitably) introduced.

As for the new macs, do you think that they would revise the form factor for the iMac?

Tallest Skil
Dec 2, 2008, 08:43 AM
when the device is (inevitably) introduced.

As for the new macs, do you think that they would revise the form factor for the iMac?

Uh, no. There won't be a Verizon iPhone.

And the iMac isn't being redesigned yet.

dwd3885
Dec 2, 2008, 08:51 AM
hopefully there's a huge leopard preview and maybe ilife stuff. i love when they do demos of the software.

nitropowered
Dec 2, 2008, 08:51 AM
Man, I just bought my iPhone

Maxington
Dec 2, 2008, 08:52 AM
Hoping for a mini-update during this years announcement.

bwaadass
Dec 2, 2008, 08:58 AM
"One more thing... the Mac Pro is a great machine, we really like it (blah blah) but today we're introducing..."

Nehalem is such a major and important step forwards I'd be very suprised if Jobs doesn't talk about it for 25mins+ (including demo).


- 32GB iPhone sure looks likely.

- Software will get a big chunk as usual (iLife, OSX, iPhone OSX).

- The iMac I hope gets updated (I'd like one and don't want to buy a soon-to-be-replaced model). (Yes I know everything will be out-dated eventually and it's probably OK for my purposes right now, but I'd rather have 6months with the latest model rather than 6 weeks!).


On an aside, who remembers the 2 years of rumours before the G5 came along (2001-2003). Crazy days! Intel roadmaps are just so transparant... Less fun but I am *NOT* complaining!

Tallest Skil
Dec 2, 2008, 09:00 AM
"One more thing... the Mac Pro is a great machine, we really like it (blah blah) but today we're introducing..."

Nehalem is such a major and important step forwards I'd be very suprised if Jobs doesn't talk about it for 25mins+ (including demo).

It's a consumer expo, though. Not only will the chips probably not be ready, they wouldn't announce a pro product at MacWorld, anyway.

CaryMacGuy
Dec 2, 2008, 09:10 AM
Uh, no. There won't be a Verizon iPhone.

And the iMac isn't being redesigned yet.

Are you sure?

I think that the pros outweigh the cons in introducing it. I am not sure on the extent of the AT&T contract they have (people seem to think that they know for sure but there is really no consensus on it). I am sure that Apple has an EVDO iPhone sitting on the shelf (at least) and can probably bring it to market rather quickly if need be.

Plus there are a lot of Verizon costumers (myself included) where switching to AT&T is simply not an option. Furthermore, Apple DOES have contracts with Vodaphone (part of the Verizon family) in other markets. So obviously Verizon cannot hate them that much.

Just what I think...

As far as the iMac, I could go either way. I love the design of the current iMac, just maybe the chin could get a little smaller.

guzhogi
Dec 2, 2008, 09:11 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/12/01/macworld-san-francisco-2009-registration-new-macs-32gb-iphones/)

The reason the largest iPhone (16GB) currently has 1/2 the memory of the largest iPod touch (32GB) is that the iPhone can only house a single NAND Flash chip while the iPod touch can accommodate two. The additional space in the iPhone is taken up by its communication hardware. In August (http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2008_08/pr0701.htm), Toshiba announced that they would begin mass production of higher density 32GB chips in the 4th quarter of 2008. These chips could presumably be used in future iPhone and iPod touch models. Another intriguing announcement came from Intel (http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/11/24/intel.34nm.32gb.chip.ships/) who has developed Flash chips that could increase this maximum to 64GB by early 2009.

I was wondering why the iPod Touch had more memory than the iPhone. If true, at least it's understandable. I don't like it, but it's understandable.

Tallest Skil
Dec 2, 2008, 09:15 AM
Plus there are a lot of Verizon costumers (myself included) where switching to AT&T is simply not an option. Furthermore, Apple DOES have contracts with Vodaphone (part of the Verizon family) in other markets. So obviously Verizon cannot hate them that much.

CDMA ≠ GSM

It's not about "liking" each other. It's not about Verizon turning them down. Apple isn't going to expend energy making a phone that works on an entirely different technology.

BigTRQ
Dec 2, 2008, 09:19 AM
...SNIP...P.S.: I'm also interested in:
-New uses for the Bluetooth chip in the 2G Touch. Since it can do Bluetooth, WiFi and FM simultaneously, we'll probably see FM receiving capabilities and the ability to connect to Bluetooth headphones.
Also, it would be kickass if Apple released a GPS receiver (or allowed the use of third-party Bluetooth accessories such as a GPS receiver) for the Touch!

-The release of an online infrastructure (à la Xbox Live) so all games can share the same system for leaderboards, matchmaking, text/audio chat, etc...

I know it's wishful thinking but that'd be great!Since when does the iPod Touch 2nd Gen have a Bluetooth radio?

bluefiberoptics
Dec 2, 2008, 09:20 AM
How about a "Sorry about this recession guys, I'll cut the prices on the Macbook and Macbook Pro!"

CaryMacGuy
Dec 2, 2008, 09:21 AM
CDMA ≠ GSM

It's not about "liking" each other. It's not about Verizon turning them down. Apple isn't going to expend energy making a phone that works on an entirely different technology.

I am aware that CDMA and GSM are completely different (I used to sell wireless phones). All I am saying is that it is my guess that Apple already has a CDMA version (that they probably developed along side the GSM version). I my opinion, it would be remiss for them not to do that. Of course, the beauty of this community is that no one really knows for sure. It is all one big guessing game.

bwaadass
Dec 2, 2008, 09:26 AM
It's a consumer expo, though. Not only will the chips probably not be ready, they wouldn't announce a pro product at MacWorld, anyway.


Good point about the consumer expo, but I figure if he can introduce the iPhone 3G at the WWDC then why not a Power Mac at MacWorld!? :) As for the chips, isn't Core i7 already out?

Ah man, 35 days to go...

Keebler
Dec 2, 2008, 09:26 AM
selfishly, i'm hoping apple upgrades the ATV to be more for a media server with larger storage options (ie. 4 HD bays) or at least the ability to add extra HDs with more usb/fw/esata options.

i doubt it will happen, but hopefully.

and it will suck if they upgrade the mac pros b/c then i'll want one! :)

entwife
Dec 2, 2008, 09:29 AM
What is the typical time period that you can buy an iphone in and still be able to upgrade/return it after?

I've been thinking of getting an iphone for a bit, but wouldn't want to miss out on a 32gig one. Is there a 30 day trial period or the like in which I can return the phone and buy a new one if it comes out (i.e. if the iphone is introduced jan 9th, can I buy an iphone dec 9th and still be somewhat assured that I'd be able to return the 16gig one and get the 32gig one)?

Thanks

14 days handset exchange on O2 UK, not sure bout anywhere else.

Kwill
Dec 2, 2008, 09:30 AM
Increased memory capacity could open the opportunity for voracious features like Spotlight and document storage while making lower capacity iPhones obsolete.

Tallest Skil
Dec 2, 2008, 09:33 AM
Good point about the consumer expo, but I figure if he can introduce the iPhone 3G at the WWDC then why not a Power Mac at MacWorld!? :) As for the chips, isn't Core i7 already out?

Ah man, 35 days to go...

The Nehalem chips that will go in the Mac Pro are not out. The ones out are high-end desktop enthusiast chips, unfit for the Mac Pro.

Kwill
Dec 2, 2008, 09:37 AM
It's a consumer expo, though. Not only will the chips probably not be ready, they wouldn't announce a pro product at MacWorld, anyway.

I remember the days when PowerMac announcements, Photoshop bake-offs and rants about the Megahertz Myth were routine (http://www.pbzone.com/mwny01/) for January Macworld. :cool:

emotion
Dec 2, 2008, 09:37 AM
All the most likely Nvidia and ATI cards for the next Mac Pro have versions with a DisplayPort connector so that shouldn't be an issue. By all accounts the Xeon DP Nehalem platform will not be ready for January and we are more likely to see a March-May release.

I was about to post this. Word on the street is that Intel have a delay, possibly due to lower than expected yields.

Worth the wait though. i7 benchmarks slaughter even AmD's Shanghai.

Eduardo1971
Dec 2, 2008, 09:39 AM
The post below hit the nail right on the head for me. The features you mention are the ones I'm wishing that Apple would incorporate into ATV. Blu-Ray would be icing in the cake. Maybe Blu-Ray in ATV could be Apple's foray into the Blu-Ray world?


(I can't believe the current iPhone doesn't support Bluetooth from the Factory?! Even my current phone {SonyEricsson w600i}, supports it.)


I think it already can do 1080p, but there's no content available.

But never mind that. I agree with the 3.5" HDD change. While making it slightly bigger, it also would allow crazy storage (hello 1TB) and would reduce cost per GB.

I'm also for adding an optical drive and giving it an actual OS of some sort and not that POS thing on there now. Provide some remote control that can do more than an old-school Nintendo controller. Just make it semi-simple like a DVD remote but allow stuff like audio selection, subtitles, etc. Adding a DVD player would entice a LOT of people who want as few boxes as possible and aren't on the Blu-ray bandwagon yet. If they can work out the Blu-ray headache, add a BD option. Such a device with the footprint of a MacBook would be kickass.

Add Netflix streaming to such a unit and I may mess myself.

Mac Brown
Dec 2, 2008, 09:40 AM
Way off topic, but just noticed the Apple in-ear headphones and earphones w/ mic have a ship date as of today.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB770G/A?fnode=MTY1NDA0Ng&mco=MjE0NDgxMg&p=2&s=topSellers

emotion
Dec 2, 2008, 09:40 AM
How about a "Sorry about this recession guys, I'll cut the prices on the Macbook and Macbook Pro!"

More like "Sorry about the slip-up guys, firewire now available via the ethernet port on Macbooks with this adapter"

I only partly joke.

Stuart in Oz
Dec 2, 2008, 09:44 AM
Been hanging for the 32GB iPhone since the 3G was announced.

The day it hits the shops my Palm p.o.s. is going in the bin. :)

smooth
Dec 2, 2008, 09:45 AM
I too am holding out for a 32gb iPhone. While I could get a way with the 16gb, my music would take up almost all of it so I'm holding out. I'd like to get rid of my iPod by getting an iPhone. My contract with Sprint has expired and my Sanyo phone is holding up very well. I'm hoping I don't have to upgrade so I'm really hoping the 32 gig-er comes out soon.

bytethese
Dec 2, 2008, 09:54 AM
I too am holding out for a 32gb iPhone. While I could get a way with the 16gb, my music would take up almost all of it so I'm holding out. I'd like to get rid of my iPod by getting an iPhone. My contract with Sprint has expired and my Sanyo phone is holding up very well. I'm hoping I don't have to upgrade so I'm really hoping the 32 gig-er comes out soon.

If they don't come out with a 32GB iPhone, just do what I do, use playlists and smart playlists. I have 45GB of music plus 100GB of movies. No way that's all going to fit on my iPhone, so I make lists and pick stuff to sync to my iPhone. :)

MagicWok
Dec 2, 2008, 09:56 AM
Since when does the iPod Touch 2nd Gen have a Bluetooth radio?

It has a kind of crippled bluetooth module for the Nike+ feature. There was a little interest in bluetooth in the revision for obvious reasons, but it was soon discovered it's only really good for the Nike+ and nothing else.

There won't be any bluetooth feature announcement for the iPod Touch like that guy speculated about, unless Apple releases another revision which is unlikely for many reasons.

smooth
Dec 2, 2008, 10:06 AM
If they don't come out with a 32GB iPhone, just do what I do, use playlists and smart playlists. I have 45GB of music plus 100GB of movies. No way that's all going to fit on my iPhone, so I make lists and pick stuff to sync to my iPhone. :)

I was thinking the same thing. If the price of the 16gb drops and there is no 32gb, I'll probably pick one up. I'm really wanting one mainly for iCal and iTunes being that I only use my current cell phone for the phone part of it so I'm not in a major rush. But I know if I don't get one soon, I won't for quite some time....

pmpknetr21
Dec 2, 2008, 10:09 AM
:apple: iLife 09/iWork 09 for Mac AND iPhone.
:apple: iPhone Firmware 3.0 update with Copy&Paste and Push Notification
:apple: Snow Leopard Preview

Maybe some hardware updates. After MobileMe and iPhone 3G rollout issues, Apple refuses to make those same mistakes and will not roll out products that aren't ready for prime time.

Just my 2 Cents.

Clayne
Dec 2, 2008, 10:16 AM
If a 64 gig ipod touch is released, I'll be getting one.

infernohellion
Dec 2, 2008, 10:18 AM
I'd been saving loads of money ready for the top 17" with CPU upgrade prior to the unibody update last October. Turned out that it didn't even release :(

I cannot play RA3 and Call of Duty 5 smoothly on my current MBP.

Please, Apple.

17" PLS!

Nano-tube
Dec 2, 2008, 10:27 AM
To tell ya the truth I don't care much about stuff like the iPhone and iPod.

What I do care about is the OS & Computers.

I DEMAND :D the following:

Mac Pro
Nehalem CPUs
DDR3 support with ECC and 4GB installed as the basic offering
The latest and greatest GPUs from nVidia and AMD (ATI)
Keep the god damn DVI connection please
Keep the cheese grater case and it's inner configuration
MATT cinema displays ALL with LED and iSight
Blue ray option
Basic mirror and strip Raid support on the MB

iMac
Quad C2D CPUs
The rest same as the Mac pro

Mac mini
The latest C2D CPU
nVidia 9400 GPU combo as on the macbook
MORE USB ports
DVD-RW as basic offering and Blue ray upgrade option

Snow Leopard
DEMO DEMO DEMO DEMO!!!! I want to know and SEE how this thing moves.
:cool:

heisetax
Dec 2, 2008, 10:33 AM
What about it?

It was just updated in October.

Rather than raising the price of the 17" Intel MacBook Pro, extras cost items became standard, the hard disk size was increase to 320 GB, & a SSD option. To me this does not qualify as an update. Even if Apple would have increased the hard drive ize to the available 500 GB 2.5" hard drives it would still be a very monor change. Just something that could be done & is done in the ater market.

The non-update of the 17" model would mean 1 of 2 or more things. One could be that since the 17" doesn't meet the small & pretty size sales thus aren't large enough & the model will be dropped. This is like the 240 GB iPod Classic being dropped before it was made for the same reason, too big & supposedly too small sales. The next is what most of us are hoping for, that it was taking too long to get the 17" model out the door so the actual update won't happen until sometime in 2009. Or it could be some other reason that we did not see a real update of the Intel MacBook Pro.

mdntcallr
Dec 2, 2008, 10:33 AM
I really am hoping for Blu-Ray to be launched across the desktop model lines.

and... even as an option for MBP.

yes we expect the desktop line to get refreshed, but it is getting embarrassing how long Apple is holding out because of "protecting" the itunes video store.

even more so because on so many blu-rays, they have built in mac support with digital copies. time for apple to return the love!!!

creditbrunch
Dec 2, 2008, 10:33 AM
Steve Jobs, as a new year present, please announce:

1. A better macbook screen (on par with the air + mbp) on the current price (firewire optional :p )

Yes, 1 item only, that's all I need.

rdowns
Dec 2, 2008, 10:34 AM
So many expectations. So many will be very disappointed. About the only thing missing form the wish lists is the iPony. I always wanted a pony as a kid.

Tallest Skil
Dec 2, 2008, 10:36 AM
Mac Pro
DVI
Blu-ray option

iMac
Quad C2D CPUs
DVI

Mac mini
Blu-ray upgrade option

The things quoted are what you want that we won't see. Otherwise I agree with you. And yes, do show us Snow Leopard!

mr.steevo
Dec 2, 2008, 10:36 AM
Hi,

32GB on a phone?

That's more storage than my 4 year old iBook. How much storage space is enough .... for a phone?

s.

RTiii320
Dec 2, 2008, 10:40 AM
Nice to hear, I would love to have a 32GB iPhone. As far as some saying that there may be an announcement or release for the 17" MBP(glass), release probably not likely but I would be fairly surprised if more details and possibly dates are not revealed about this item.

t0mat0
Dec 2, 2008, 10:45 AM
Not long now before we're all at Macrumors deciphering the posters, and rumours of MWSF and the keynote on January 5th (though fairly recently they've been a bit too accurately predictive - takes away some of the unexpectedness).

By my calculation - if it's 34 days away -
Only ~3 weeks before more definitive rumours for MWSF
Only ~32 days till the posters start going up

freebooter
Dec 2, 2008, 10:47 AM
My prediction:

A new product that will combine Mac Mini with Apple TV. It will be hailed by SJ as the 2nd "cuming". It will suck because it will cost too much, have a 3rd rate video card, take only 3 GB RAM, have only 2 USB ports and no FW and will only connect via Apple's proprietary cables/wireless. Many will buy it anyway. It will be slim, shiny and black/aluminum.

I'm only basing this prediction, of course, on current trends.

bartelby
Dec 2, 2008, 10:48 AM
So many expectations. So many will be very disappointed.

Same every time there's an Apple related event. You'd think people would learn from past experience...

137489
Dec 2, 2008, 10:56 AM
Truthfully, i do not know what to expect this year.... I followed the last couple of MWSF, and there were some leaks and hints. This year since the laptops got a revamp/refresh, ipods got a refresh, and there really has not been much talk about what is coming at MWSF, so I think the only things left are:

New/updated iphone - yep you know that will be in there. :rolleyes:

Snow Leopard - Hopefully we hear something :) that front has been kinda quiet. I thnk there was only one developer release since it was announced at WWDC.

Maybe a new ilife 09

maybe some new enhancements to iwork

MSWF is usually the place for rolling out something new, so lets hope (but I am not holding my breath):

1. Economical Netbook to stop all the whining (although one would be cool).

2. Slate tablet or netbook tablet.

3. Blu-ray to stop all the whining.

4. New mini to stop all the whining. I think the mini form factor is great as it is, but it could use some higher specs.

But no matter what happens - there will be some oohs and ahhs, but also some "Dang they didn't..."

Pretty much looking across the board, here are some things that are pretty much at the End of Life and need some new ones:

1. Mac Pro
2. Mac Mini
3. Imac
4. ACD - ok, they came out with a new LED 24", but most of us can't use it yet.

those 4 seem to have been left in the dust recently.

*Edit, before someone says I can't count - I had added a 4th item, but neglected my last sentence - fixed.

rdowns
Dec 2, 2008, 11:01 AM
Same every time there's an Apple related event. You'd think people would learn from past experience...

But what do you think about the iPony?

swissmann
Dec 2, 2008, 11:03 AM
Blu-Ray support (even if it is just noted as a part of Snow Leopard)
iWork '09
iLife '09
Snow Leopard demo and release date - even if it is "Summer '09"
New Mac Pros - with a graphics card update like the ATI 4850 at least (just so I can buy that graphics card separately for my older Mac Pro)

I don't know why any of this is beyond the realm of possible, but some things are going to have to be left out like usual.

IJ Reilly
Dec 2, 2008, 11:08 AM
So many expectations. So many will be very disappointed. About the only thing missing form the wish lists is the iPony. I always wanted a pony as a kid.

:) But only if it's matte, not glossy? And how can they release an iPony without also releasing an iDonkey, an iMule and an iHorse?

rdowns
Dec 2, 2008, 11:17 AM
:) But only if it's matte, not glossy? And how can they release an iPony without also releasing an iDonkey, an iMule and an iHorse?


No reason. Surely there are iJackasses who would buy them. :D

smooth
Dec 2, 2008, 11:25 AM
Hi,

32GB on a phone?

That's more storage than my 4 year old iBook. How much storage space is enough .... for a phone?

s.

Yes, for those, like me, who carry their iPod with them wherever they go. It would be simple convenience not to have to carry around 2 devices everywhere. I don't travel much, but when I do I like to put a movie or a couple shows on my iPod. Again, with bigger storage, I can do this with my phone that I would also have with me. To be honest, I'm not even sure what else I could put on an iPhone to take up more space. But to answer your question I'd say as close to the storage the largest iPod has. Apple decided 160 GB was too large and must not have sold as well so they're 120 GB now. If the technology were there, I'd be iPhones with that much storage would be big sellers (though expensive as heck).

Joe The Dragon
Dec 2, 2008, 11:28 AM
The new Nokia N97 has 32GB... PLUS a slot for up to 16GB more.

and it is unlocked + it does not have lock in only 1 app store.

diamond.g
Dec 2, 2008, 11:31 AM
The new Nokia N97 has 32GB... PLUS a slot for up to 16GB more.

The interface needs to be sped up some more, but the features it is boasting are pretty impressive. I really wish Apple would do a today menu...

CaryMacGuy
Dec 2, 2008, 11:32 AM
I have my money on the iRack

puckhead193
Dec 2, 2008, 11:33 AM
i hope they make a size increase for the touch to 64 GB.... that would temp me. :D

mandoman
Dec 2, 2008, 11:35 AM
10" netbook, only because Steve said they won't go after that nascent market.

MrCatMan
Dec 2, 2008, 11:36 AM
I would like to see

New imac
1Tb Apple TV
8 inch tablet -
32 gig iphone
64 gig itouch
17 inch mac book pro

shyfidelity
Dec 2, 2008, 11:38 AM
I own a 16GB iPhone 3G, and I've never had a storage problem.

For Thanksgiving weekend, I loaded one movie, an entire season of Heroes, about a dozen podcasts (some with video), and still had room for more music than we had time to listen to.

MrCatMan
Dec 2, 2008, 11:38 AM
On the software side I want

iphone 3.0 with Copy and Paste + Note Synching + Summary Screen when on slide to unlock screen for e-mails texts appointments weather etc. Seen a few good designs on here.
Over the air wifi synching
Snow Leopard

liquidtrend
Dec 2, 2008, 11:52 AM
id love me some 32gb iphone.

over thanksgiving, after certain unexplainable events...my phone ended up fully submerged in a glass of water.

so...a 32gb iphone would justify the sad sad tale.

mikeinternet
Dec 2, 2008, 11:54 AM
As much as I have been waiting for a new Mini to enter the Mac market, if a mini-display port is the only connection option (and no adapters available by then) I may consider skipping Macs for another year or two until some of these issues get worked out.

Good point. Minis are a good cheap solution. Which only makes sense if you can just use any monitor laying around.

I'd like to see the storage bump on the iphone, to keep up with the rhythm of updates so far. Not ready to upgrade just yet, but i'd be ready for a major revision come june.

!¡ V ¡!
Dec 2, 2008, 11:56 AM
Ohh!!! Wish List!!! :D

Not really interested in any of the recent :apple: offering(s). Excited nonetheless. :)

Dyne Valentine
Dec 2, 2008, 12:09 PM
I'm hoping they put out the MyPod and the iPony software suite for the new MyPod will rock. :-0



In all seriousness I hope the iMac gets the LED update that the other displays got.

Alchematron
Dec 2, 2008, 12:14 PM
Wheres my 10" Air Steve?

With matte screen, internal 3G antenna, and silver keys!

errol
Dec 2, 2008, 12:14 PM
Whatever the announcement, I hope it helps the stock price!

I think the best thing to help shares would be a TV/Mini combination.

wayland1985
Dec 2, 2008, 12:20 PM
Ugh, now I have to reconsider upgrading my iPhone 2g to the fuze!

What I need to see in the iPhone:
Same processor as the touch
3.0 software with copy/paste, safari supporting flash and memorizing passwords, MMS support ( native, not 3rd party)

What I would like to see in the iPhone,
1 more physical button near the volume rocker for skipping songs ( controls like on the headphones)
Support for the new apple headphones


What I want to see in snowleopard:
Ichat 5 with better status handling (multi line stAtus messages), quicker response to hovering over buddies, and better chat history handling

EVH
Dec 2, 2008, 12:40 PM
MWSF is earlier than usual this year.. great if you're in the market for a Mac, now (less time to wait) :D

EVH's prediction:

iMac and Mac Mini bumps
Demo of current status of Snow Leopard
iLife announcements
iTunes success / iPhone marketshare / app store graphs
iPhone bump to 32GB, iTouch to 64GB
iPhone software 2.3 with new features (push notifications), $9.99 for iTouch


*Mac Pro to be silently bumped towards the beginning of February 2009

I'd love an Apple TV upgrade with a bigger hard drive (500 + 1000GB would be a great choice, and a logical one if they move to 3.5") and basic PVR functionality, but that's more a wish than a realistic release option.

No tablets here.. I'm guessing that would be a bigger 10.7 announcement (full multitouch OS) than a booster upgrade as I see 10.6 to be.

It goes without saying people will over-hype the event and end up dissapointed when a 12" MBP / iTablet isn't released :rolleyes:

twoodcc
Dec 2, 2008, 01:05 PM
wish i was going to macworld.

looking forward to the updates. i wonder if we'll see ilife 09 and iwork 09 also.

Mad Mac Maniac
Dec 2, 2008, 01:14 PM
what about the 'one more thing' ;)

bankshot
Dec 2, 2008, 01:18 PM
Add me to the list for a 64 GB iPod touch. A redesigned Mac mini would be nice too, but only if it retains Firewire. As Apple has been moving away from minor product updates at major shows (trying to combat the Osborne effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect)), I wouldn't be surprised to see either of these in late January or early February. That's about the timeframe the iPod touch got bumped to 32 GB this past year. A new mini might make the keynote if it's considered a major redesign, and therefore a brand new product to show off.

Of course, since I just had over $15k in unexpected home repairs, I'll be watching from the sidelines either way. The recession hasn't affected me, but this sure did! :eek::mad::confused::o:(:rolleyes: <-- (the six stages of grief :D)

Unless a new mini does drop Firewire, in which case I may have to think long and hard about snapping up an old one on clearance before they're gone.

IndyJonez
Dec 2, 2008, 01:29 PM
Well, I'll jump on the iphone update bandwagon. Although without high expectations (trying to stay MWSafe state of mind ;) )

As one, of a small percentage I'm sure, who have waited since "iday 1.0" to get an iphone (not voluntarily I assure you), what's going to happen if and when they announce this 32gb version possibly in january when its highly expected that there could be a near complete overhaul 6 months later?

I've been reading thread after thread where many many people are so sure of themselves there is going to be this huge announcement come june/july, so much that I'm getting excited and believing it myself!

But anyways, I guess this was really meant to be a question of sorts. For someone without unlimited funds and 5 mac computers that's just been waiting to get the iphone for this long as their Tmobile contract runs dry, does one jump on this rumored 32gb or wait a mere 6 months for the much anticipated jesus phone 2!......or 3! Or whatever the hell you wanna call it?

I've waited nearly 2 years, what's another half a season gonna hurt? Well it may just drive me insane but I'm pondering taking my chances. :D

puffnstuff
Dec 2, 2008, 01:44 PM
Wheres my 10" Air Steve?!

Yeah, where the hell is the ultraportable? I would get one in a heart beat.

B. Hunter
Dec 2, 2008, 01:46 PM
iWeb needs refreshing. Would be nice to see new iWork released as well.

paja
Dec 2, 2008, 01:49 PM
The only two things I care about are a 32GB iPhone and Snow Leopard.

Oh yeah and Copy and Paste on the iPhone please.

Please have them both ready for sale on January 6th, 2009.

Yvan256
Dec 2, 2008, 01:51 PM
Add me to the list of "I'd like to see the Mac mini upgraded to nVidia 9400M, 4GB RAM max, DVD-RW even on the low-end model, keep FireWire 400" list.

flottenheimer
Dec 2, 2008, 01:59 PM
No iPhone news, please.
It's the Mac that needs some attention.

Luckily, my unibody MacBook Pro was the fix I needed. But the rest of the Mac lineup needs TLC - MacPro (completely redesigned), MacMini & iMac. I hope Apple delivers.

I would really like to see a 3rd take on Apples self proclaimed "hobby project", the Apple TV. My home would love a great central media and backup hub (one that accepts all sorts of sources, including DVD, DivX, Xvid and whatever I want to view or listen to).

And, oh, a new Apple mouse, thats actually worth using, would be great as well. + new keyboards sporting black keys instead of white. + Snow Leopard.

happydude
Dec 2, 2008, 02:03 PM
common mac mini!!! my family business is waiting on one to buy to run our POS and inventory operation. let's do it, apple!!

FoxHoundADAM
Dec 2, 2008, 02:04 PM
Our Christmas present to my wife and myself is a new iMac, needless to say I'm waiting till Macworld to get it as I fully expect a redesign to the iMac line.

No way I purchase one based on the current price and specs.

Also, I'm expect NO updates to the iPhone and Touch as the iPhone will get it's update in June and the touch just had an update 2 months ago. They can't have something completely new for each at EVERY Mac event guys.

NiroNavro
Dec 2, 2008, 03:22 PM
Sure the iMac will get an internal update but I really hope that it gets an external makeover as well. I realize that it probably won't. I completely understand why it wouldn't. I hope it does though and I hope that it is fashioned after the new ACD's. I think that those are gorgeous and that the iMac would look great with an exterior like that. Also, the LED screen would be top notch compared to the iMac's current LCD.

Eidorian
Dec 2, 2008, 03:23 PM
Quad core iMacs and maybe even a 32 GB iPod Nano update are my hopes for MWSF.

iLife/iWork '09 might turn out to be interesting but I don't use the current versions enough ti justify upgrading.

Sky Blue
Dec 2, 2008, 03:25 PM
I fulley expect a redesign to the iMac line.


Why would you expect a redesign? way too soon.

AidenShaw
Dec 2, 2008, 03:38 PM
It's a consumer expo, though. Not only will the chips probably not be ready, they wouldn't announce a pro product at MacWorld, anyway.

Do you mean that in the sense that Apple products with "pro" in the name are really higher end consumer products and not true professional products? ;)

Or do you think that Apple doesn't announce servers, workstations and "Pro" laptops at MacWorld?

It must be the former, since many "pro" products have been announced at MacWorlds...

MacWorld 2006: MacBook Pro
MacWorld 2004: XServe G5
MacWorld 2003: PowerBook G4 12"/17"
MacWorld 2001: Power Mac G4 "Quicksilver" (NY), Power Mac G4 733 (SF)
MacWorld 1999: Power Mac G3 (B&W)

iMacmatician
Dec 2, 2008, 03:48 PM
No (mini-)tablet rumors? Why do I have to do wishful thinking all the time? :D I hope for a mini-tablet or iPod stick (with iLife, iWork, etc.) as the big thing at MWSF, but I don't think that'll happen… (*keeping my hopes up though*)

A number of products are expected to be unveiled at or around Macworld. Long running rumors have suggested that Apple's iMac and Mac mini are due for imminent updates. Mac Pro suitable Nehalem processors are due in the first quarter (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/11/13/mac-pro-suitable-nehalem-core-i7-processors-due-in-1st-quarter-2009/) and we've long heard that the remainder of the Cinema Displays (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/08/06/new-apple-cinema-displays-finally-at-mwsf-2009/) will be updated at MWSF. I think ACDs (LED, most likely) at MWSF, iMac and Mac mini in late January or late February, and Mac Pro sometime after that. 17" MacBook Pro I can see at MWSF, with Steve Jobs making some sort of "we're rounding out the MacBook line" comment. That'll most likely be a small mention, unless they use the liquid cooling mentioned in the other rumor or something else notable.

I'd also like to see a Snow Leopard preview, as well as iLife '09 and iWork '09.

9" iTabletI wish! :D

Nehalem is such a major and important step forwards I'd be very suprised if Jobs doesn't talk about it for 25mins+ (including demo).It's a consumer expo, though. Not only will the chips probably not be ready, they wouldn't announce a pro product at MacWorld, anyway.WWDC looks like a perfect time to announce Nehalem and the new Mac Pro, given rumors of DP Nehalem delays and Apple's tendency to not update early.

Fonzijr1964
Dec 2, 2008, 04:02 PM
PB G5

Mal
Dec 2, 2008, 04:13 PM
Sure the iMac will get an internal update but I really hope that it gets an external makeover as well. I realize that it probably won't. I completely understand why it wouldn't. I hope it does though and I hope that it is fashioned after the new ACD's. I think that those are gorgeous and that the iMac would look great with an exterior like that. Also, the LED screen would be top notch compared to the iMac's current LCD.

Huh? You do realize that the new ACD is designed to look like the current iMac's, right? The only difference is the "chin" on the bottom, and if you've seen the inside, getting rid of that is going to be very difficult for Apple, if they choose to try.

jW

Ping Guo
Dec 2, 2008, 04:14 PM
Apple will bemuse and dumbfound analysts by releasing the iCrystal line of laptops, mere months after the heralded unibody line. The new laptops will each be chiseled from a solid block of Swarovski crystal.

The laptops will be incredibly thin and fragile, and Steve will wow the crowd by demonstrating a how a single high-pitched scream can shatter the casing into thousands of razor-sharp iShards.

The laptops will also be substantially slower than the current unibody lineup, and will have 0 ports of any type whatsoever, nor will they have a power supply, as any contact with the precious crystal could cause severe irreparable damage. They will instead be powered solely by the harmonic resonating of universal love and "good vibes". Bad vibes and mean people will cause the laptops to crash.

Ruehasa
Dec 2, 2008, 05:57 PM
My friend's dad is in the business, and he confirmed that the 32GB is being introduced in january in black and white, and the 8GB being dropped, as well as price drops to the 16GB going to 199 and the 32GB starting up at 299, i didnt ask but u suspect the 16GB models have black and white still,

Tallest Skil
Dec 2, 2008, 06:04 PM
My friend's dad is in the business, and he confirmed that the 32GB is being introduced in january in black and white, and the 8GB being dropped, as well as price drops to the 16GB going to 199 and the 32GB starting up at 299, i didnt ask but u suspect the 16GB models have black and white still,

If there is any more than one step on the familiarity ladder, we don't believe you. Straight-up "friend" usually doesn't cut it, either.

Quillz
Dec 2, 2008, 06:26 PM
I bought a new iMac on Black Friday that's due for delivery later today. In retrospect, I probably should have waited, but I think I'll be happy with a 2.66 Core 2 Duo using the Penrynn chipset for quite some time.

I am still holding off on the iPhone 3G, though, in the hopes that a 32 GB version is released soon. I will be first in line for a 32 GB version as soon as it's made available.

Quillz
Dec 2, 2008, 06:28 PM
My friend's dad is in the business, and he confirmed that the 32GB is being introduced in january in black and white, and the 8GB being dropped, as well as price drops to the 16GB going to 199 and the 32GB starting up at 299, i didnt ask but u suspect the 16GB models have black and white still,
And my friend's cousin's dad's second cousin twice removed is Steve Jobs. ;)

Kidding, of course, but I do hope this "insider" is correct.

iMacmatician
Dec 2, 2008, 07:03 PM
If there is any more than one step on the familiarity ladder, we don't believe you. Straight-up "friend" usually doesn't cut it, either.What about "dad"? :D

Anyway, I think the claim isn't too far off, although (besides the date) it's expected.

iBeard
Dec 2, 2008, 07:06 PM
and we've long heard that the remainder of the Cinema Displays (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/08/06/new-apple-cinema-displays-finally-at-mwsf-2009/) will be updated at MWSF.

:(

I hope not. We need fewer glossy displays, not more...

SFStateStudent
Dec 2, 2008, 07:11 PM
I'm looking forward to the iPhone Supersessions with Breen and Long again. I'm bringing my significant other to tag along, since she has never been to MWSF for the iPhone Supersession. Should be quite interesting...:cool:

SactoGuy18
Dec 2, 2008, 08:00 PM
The most likely thing we'll see at Macworld SF 2009 will be:

1) A demonstration of MacOS X 10.6 ("Snow Leopard")
2) The next-generation Apple TV box.
3) The next-generation Mac Pro tower machines.

I'm hoping against hope that Apple sees it fit to offer:

1) 32 GB iPhone.
2) 32 GB iPod nano (4G)

The 32 GB version of the 4G iPod nano may not be as far-fetched as people think. This especially in light of the Creative ZEN 32 GB, ZEN X-Fi 32 GB and Sandisk SANSA View 32 GB models now available. With the new higher-density flash memory about to reach the market, 4G nano with a 32 GB single chip flash memory chip is feasible.

Ruehasa
Dec 2, 2008, 08:10 PM
The most likely thing we'll see at Macworld SF 2009 will be:

1) A demonstration of MacOS X 10.6 ("Snow Leopard")
2) The next-generation Apple TV box.
3) The next-generation Mac Pro tower machines.

I'm hoping against hope that Apple sees it fit to offer:

1) 32 GB iPhone.
2) 32 GB iPod nano (4G)

The 32 GB version of the 4G iPod nano may not be as far-fetched as people think. This especially in light of the Creative ZEN 32 GB, ZEN X-Fi 32 GB and Sandisk SANSA View 32 GB models now available. With the new higher-density flash memory about to reach the market, 4G nano with a 32 GB single chip flash memory chip is feasible.

But if you noticed, the 4G were originally supposed to keep the 4 and 8 gig configs but at last minute they added the 16 gig, so the possibility of it is slim to none, also to the fact that ipod nano memory upgrades have never happened, only one time did a white version come out and a low end 1 GB

ivladster
Dec 2, 2008, 09:27 PM
Nah, I think iPhone and iPods are gonna stay unchanged until next summer. I believe Apple is planning the next huge change to iPhone. They hit their goal with for 2009 deadline, they're gonna make a new one in 2009.

Funny how, mini is cheapest mac yet it doesn's sell. Apple is gonna do something about that.

iMac changes just internally.

I think this event is gonna be strictly on Mac products, no music or tv. Apple likes to have a theme. )

powers74
Dec 2, 2008, 09:44 PM
What is the typical time period that you can buy an iphone in and still be able to upgrade/return it after?

I've been thinking of getting an iphone for a bit, but wouldn't want to miss out on a 32gig one. Is there a 30 day trial period or the like in which I can return the phone and buy a new one if it comes out (i.e. if the iphone is introduced jan 9th, can I buy an iphone dec 9th and still be somewhat assured that I'd be able to return the 16gig one and get the 32gig one)?

Thanks

-------------------

Apple will bemuse and dumbfound analysts by releasing the iCrystal line of laptops, mere months after the heralded unibody line. The new laptops will each be chiseled from a solid block of Swarovski crystal.

The laptops will be incredibly thin and fragile, and Steve will wow the crowd by demonstrating a how a single high-pitched scream can shatter the casing into thousands of razor-sharp iShards.

The laptops will also be substantially slower than the current unibody lineup, and will have 0 ports of any type whatsoever, nor will they have a power supply, as any contact with the precious crystal could cause severe irreparable damage. They will instead be powered solely by the harmonic resonating of universal love and "good vibes". Bad vibes and mean people will cause the laptops to crash.



No. What? No. Fish or cut bait, buddy.

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Why is it every time an event is around the corner some guy who thinks he is a writer for mad TV writes up some awesomely un-funny bogus prediction?

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Personally, I don't really care about the capacity of the iPhone as much as I'd like to see an aluminum back, although 32Gs would be nice. I'm trying to convince my mom to get a Mini, so an update on that would be pretty nice. It's amazing how hard it is to convince people; I've been on a mac for nearly 10 years, my uncle a little more, I got two of my siblings to switch and they are thrilled, my mom's sister loves her MBP, but still my mom is skeptical.

kdarling
Dec 2, 2008, 09:59 PM
CDMA ≠ GSM

It's not about "liking" each other. It's not about Verizon turning them down. Apple isn't going to expend energy making a phone that works on an entirely different technology.

Why not? Apple already did change radios, when they added 3G (which is based on W-CDMA).

Apple wanted to be on Verizon to begin with. With a CDMA version they could go after the 2/3 of the US market that they're missing now.

FoxHoundADAM
Dec 2, 2008, 10:08 PM
Why would you expect a redesign? way too soon.

Well they just updated the MBP and Touch. I don't see an iPhone change yet which leads me to redesigns of Mini and iMac, they are the oldest designs they offer right now.

macsForLife
Dec 2, 2008, 10:18 PM
Of course, right when I want to buy a Touch, they start talking about the 64gb upgrade I've been waiting for. I don't know how the iMacs could get any more minimal or thinner, but I guess a redesign wouldn't be bad. Honestly, though, I think they should do something with the Mac Pro. And a 17" Powerb...I mean Macbook Pro would be nice. Still have trouble saying that word...

Eidorian
Dec 2, 2008, 10:20 PM
Well they just updated the MBP and Touch. I don't see an iPhone change yet which leads me to redesigns of Mini and iMac, they are the oldest designs they offer right now.Keep in mind the previous design lasted from 2004 to 2007.

Chundles
Dec 2, 2008, 10:21 PM
Why not? Apple already did change radios, when they added 3G (which is based on W-CDMA).

Apple wanted to be on Verizon to begin with. With a CDMA version they could go after the 2/3 of the US market that they're missing now.

Too much effort for a small market. The global GSM and 3G market vastly exceeds the numbers they could serve by making a CDMA phone.

sdhar23
Dec 2, 2008, 10:27 PM
Maybe an iPod Stick?:confused:

Digital Skunk
Dec 2, 2008, 10:32 PM
Too much effort for a small market. The global GSM and 3G market vastly exceeds the numbers they could serve by making a CDMA phone.

I agree with you, and not to say that Apple will do this, but money is money and Apple will go after the money. Regardless of the worldwide GSM market, the US CDMA market is going to entice Apple a lot more IMO.

Basically, Apple would sell more phones NOW by putting the iPhone on the Verizon or Sprint network (mainly VZW), rather than launching it in a new country. If I were Apple, knowing that my phone is now a glorified Razr with social networking apps, I'd release the phone on another network.

But that'd be too much like right.

Maybe an iPod Stick?:confused:

Been there done that.... remember the 1st generation shuffle?

Chundles
Dec 2, 2008, 10:42 PM
Regardless of the worldwide GSM market, the US CDMA market is going to entice Apple a lot more IMO.


Not enough to justify the costs. China and Russia are where the next big market push will be.

Apple still have an exclusivity contract with AT&T in the US so that rules out any form of CDMA iPhone for the time being.

It's just too small a market to worry about.

Quillz
Dec 2, 2008, 11:40 PM
Keep in mind the previous design lasted from 2004 to 2007.
The new iMac really isn't different from the G5 iMac in terms of design. All that really changed was the chassis materials and the internals. Therefore, the design from 2004 is still going strong.

kk1ro
Dec 3, 2008, 02:37 AM
Since when does the iPod Touch 2nd Gen have a Bluetooth radio?

It has been known for a long time that the 2G Touch has a Broadcom BCM4325 chip inside.
This chip, acording to the Broadcom website, can handle WiFi, Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR and FM receiving, simultaneously.
The Bluetooth capabilities of the chip are said to be blocked by the OS and are only used for Nike+ but it can, theoretically, be "unlocked" and used for other things.

louidge
Dec 3, 2008, 02:55 AM
whooo been waiting for 32gb to get one
but is there absolutely no bluetooth support?
might have to wait a bit longer then :(

psingh01
Dec 3, 2008, 06:22 AM
I guess I'm not getting a 3G for Christmas. I'll wait until Macworld lol

SactoGuy18
Dec 3, 2008, 08:08 AM
But if you noticed, the 4G were originally supposed to keep the 4 and 8 gig configs but at last minute they added the 16 gig, so the possibility of it is slim to none, also to the fact that ipod nano memory upgrades have never happened, only one time did a white version come out and a low end 1 GB

I would agree but remember, Apple designed the nano's internals so it only supported a single flash memory chip, hence the smaller flash memory sizes. The Creative ZEN/ZEN X-Fi and Sandisk SANSA View models could reach 32 GB because these non-Apple players could accommodate two flash memory chips on the players' circuit board.

But now that Toshiba is ready to ship the 32 GB single-chip flash memory module (and likewise Samsung doing the same), and since Apple can easily get very large volume discount pricing even on these latest flash memory chips, Apple no longer has the technical limit of 16 GB on the 4G nano. Even if it's priced at US$249, a 32 GB version of the 4G nano will sell, if only because it would allow users to rip CD's at higher encoding rates for MP3 or AAC (or even go to Apple Lossless encoding) and still put a good number of albums into the player.

I have a 3G nano (8 GB) and I have to rip my CD collection at 192 kbps VBR AAC so I could fit enough CD's into my player plus accommodate the number of podcasts I download through iTunes 8.0.2. If Apple offered a 4G nano with 32 GB of storage, I'd buy one in no time flat so I could bump up the encoding rate to 256 kbps VBR and still accommodate a lot more music into my player. :)

surferfromuk
Dec 3, 2008, 08:09 AM
I'm getting fed up of boring little incremental changes in s/w and h/w...

If Apple want to stay ahead of MS who are trying to steal 'innovator' mindshare title then this Macworld they'd better reveal something seriously fooking WOW!!

It's been 2 years since we had any true WOW...time for some more I think...

Come on Apple - $25Billion in the bank - splash some cash on R&D and announce something ludicrously sci-fi and futuristically mind blowing...

surferfromuk
Dec 3, 2008, 08:11 AM
The most likely thing we'll see at Macworld SF 2009 will be:

1) A demonstration of MacOS X 10.6 ("Snow Leopard")
2) The next-generation Apple TV box.
3) The next-generation Mac Pro tower machines.

I'm hoping against hope that Apple sees it fit to offer:

1) 32 GB iPhone.
2) 32 GB iPod nano (4G)

The 32 GB version of the 4G iPod nano may not be as far-fetched as people think. This especially in light of the Creative ZEN 32 GB, ZEN X-Fi 32 GB and Sandisk SANSA View 32 GB models now available. With the new higher-density flash memory about to reach the market, 4G nano with a 32 GB single chip flash memory chip is feasible.

This kind of thing would put me off buying an ATV for Xmas since I'd be seriously pissed if they released a Gen 2 a couple of weeks after i'd just bought one...

MagicWok
Dec 3, 2008, 09:22 AM
Hi,

32GB on a phone?

That's more storage than my 4 year old iBook. How much storage space is enough .... for a phone?

Enough space to store the entire internet should do it I reckon... :p

Hopefully when I return from my month-long holiday after MW'09 there'll be a good reason to spend the hard-cash I've saved for an iPhone and Macbook Pro that's just doing silly things such as earning interest in a back account...

kdarling
Dec 3, 2008, 10:35 AM
Too much effort for a small market. The global GSM and 3G market vastly exceeds the numbers they could serve by making a CDMA phone.

It doesn't matter that so many poor countries use GSM, if they aren't buying the phone. Apple is missing out on huge sales in the USA in comparison.

Take last quarter (July-Sept). Five million iPhones actually sold (not just shipped as inventory) worldwide, with about half of those in the USA. IIRC, about 2.4 million phones sold by ATT. Correct me if I misremember.

Now consider if it was on Verizon as well. Very easily another 2.5 million phones sold last quarter, wouldn't you agree? Verizon could become ONE THIRD of worldwide sales. That would not be considered a small market. Especially since Verizon has the largest 3G network in the USA by area.

Digital Skunk
Dec 3, 2008, 10:40 AM
Not enough to justify the costs. China and Russia are where the next big market push will be.

Apple still have an exclusivity contract with AT&T in the US so that rules out any form of CDMA iPhone for the time being.

It's just too small a market to worry about.

Yes enough to justify the costs. It will be easier for Apple to make a CDMA version of the phone and put it on at least Verizon's or Sprint's network than to go into contract negotiations with cell phone providers in 3rd world countries. And Apple would make more money faster since Sprint would do anything to get any phone especially an iPhone, and VZW still has the largest network, and it's network blows AT&T's out of the water in terms of speed.

We know about the exclusivity, it's more of a hypothetical thing.

Drag'nGT
Dec 3, 2008, 12:08 PM
It doesn't matter that so many poor countries use GSM, if they aren't buying the phone. Apple is missing out on huge sales in the USA in comparison.

Take last quarter (July-Sept). Five million iPhones actually sold (not just shipped as inventory) worldwide, with about half of those in the USA. IIRC, about 2.4 million phones sold by ATT. Correct me if I misremember.

Now consider if it was on Verizon as well. Very easily another 2.5 million phones sold last quarter, wouldn't you agree? Verizon could become ONE THIRD of worldwide sales. That would not be considered a small market. Especially since Verizon has the largest 3G network in the USA by area.

Verizon doesn't have 3G. They borrowed that term since GSM coined it for all of their networks. Idiots around the US don't know much about cell phones and that's why them and Sprint have decided to claim the same thing the GSM carriers say. I HATE hearing Verizon and Sprint say they have 3G. Not to mention I HATE both Verizon and Sprint anyway.

But if they had sold the phone to all of the carriers they would have sold many more than they currently have. But all carriers try to have an exclusive phone to drive sales. So it's moot.

AuburnApple
Dec 3, 2008, 01:09 PM
This is what I want to see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqBcBea0IHE

I put this video together for a Product Management class.

kdarling
Dec 3, 2008, 01:27 PM
Verizon doesn't have 3G. They borrowed that term since GSM coined it for all of their networks.

The term is not limited to GSM. In fact, the 3G CDMA standards group is called:

3GPP2 (http://www.3gpp2.org/)

If Apple had made a deal with Verizon, the first iPhone would have skipped 2G and gone straight to 3G (EVDO).

apple2E
Dec 3, 2008, 01:28 PM
The new iMac really isn't different from the G5 iMac in terms of design. All that really changed was the chassis materials and the internals. Therefore, the design from 2004 is still going strong.

Actually having them side by side from a g5 imac to the first intel version imac to the latest there are a lot of differences. Placement of usbs, thickness, and screen are the really noticeable features.

diamond.g
Dec 3, 2008, 01:29 PM
Verizon doesn't have 3G. They borrowed that term since GSM coined it for all of their networks. Idiots around the US don't know much about cell phones and that's why them and Sprint have decided to claim the same thing the GSM carriers say. I HATE hearing Verizon and Sprint say they have 3G. Not to mention I HATE both Verizon and Sprint anyway.

But if they had sold the phone to all of the carriers they would have sold many more than they currently have. But all carriers try to have an exclusive phone to drive sales. So it's moot.

Odd I always thought 3G just meant third generation cellular technology. So UTMS tech (which includes HSDPA) and CDMA2000 (which includes EVDO) are all 3G. Technically you don't have to be apart of GSM to have 3G tech at all. Note how GSM doesn't exist in Japan, yet HSDPA (well and FOMA) does.

kdarling
Dec 3, 2008, 01:29 PM
This is what I want to see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqBcBea0IHE

Pretty nice job. Thanks for sharing.

Does this mean that Bill Gates has been correct all these years about tablet computers? :)

palmerc2
Dec 3, 2008, 02:05 PM
32GB iPhone,

gahhh, i just got my 16GB...it would be sad to see a 32GB available just 2 months after I got mine

puffnstuff
Dec 3, 2008, 02:12 PM
This is what I want to see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqBcBea0IHE

I put this video together for a Product Management class.

Very nice but will never happen well not with Steve as CEO. He already said at the notebook event that there is no market for them.

Which I find as kind of an odd statement for a company that has a large designer base + PC manufacturers are still making them.:confused:

Digital Skunk
Dec 3, 2008, 02:21 PM
Verizon doesn't have 3G. They borrowed that term since GSM coined it for all of their networks. Idiots around the US don't know much about cell phones and that's why them and Sprint have decided to claim the same thing the GSM carriers say. I HATE hearing Verizon and Sprint say they have 3G. Not to mention I HATE both Verizon and Sprint anyway.

But if they had sold the phone to all of the carriers they would have sold many more than they currently have. But all carriers try to have an exclusive phone to drive sales. So it's moot.

Take a breath and realize that you are both loud and wrong on all fronts. I don't know what they teach you in your country, but 3G isn't GSM standardized word. It's 3rd Generation of wireless tech as others have said.

You may hate Sprint and Verizon, but they had 3G speeds two years ago, and both are still faster than AT&t's network. Some (probably over zealous) reviews have called Sprint's EVDO 3.5G in certain heavily populated areas.

WiMax is the 4th Generation and Sprint's been rolling it out in the Delmarva area for months now. WiFi like speeds on your cell phone does sound nice to me, no matter what it's called.

Either way, there isn't really a world war of whose network should be called what or which one is better in which country.

This is what I want to see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqBcBea0IHE

I put this video together for a Product Management class.

Very good project. I hope you got an "A"

This video is why Matt Groening makes fun of Apple people though.

Brandonmeier
Dec 3, 2008, 03:05 PM
Im really hoping for a new imac. I am soooo close to buying one, but want to hold off and see what happens.

Say a new imac is unveiled at Macworld, how long usually, until they are available in stores or rather online?

Tallest Skil
Dec 3, 2008, 03:07 PM
Im really hoping for a new imac. I am soooo close to buying one, but want to hold off and see what happens.

Say a new imac is unveiled at Macworld, how long usually, until they are available in stores or rather online?

Immediately. Every time.

Digital Skunk
Dec 3, 2008, 03:07 PM
Im really hoping for a new imac. I am soooo close to buying one, but want to hold off and see what happens.

Say a new imac is unveiled at Macworld, how long usually, until they are available in stores or rather online?

Just be patient, you will get your computer in time. :rolleyes:

PurrBall
Dec 3, 2008, 03:37 PM
Im really hoping for a new imac. I am soooo close to buying one, but want to hold off and see what happens.

Say a new imac is unveiled at Macworld, how long usually, until they are available in stores or rather online?

Same here since I'm really bummed out having to use a 500MHz P3 and 3GB HDD at the moment while waiting :(

talkingfuture
Dec 4, 2008, 07:57 AM
I think it is inevitable that we will see something on the Mini front. I can't see any clues in the usual places as to whether it will be a replacement or a revision. For me a Mini like device would be a better living room machine than :apple:TV.

Front Row + DVR software + DVD / Blu Ray drive = Sale!

Some sort of iPhone like tablet that could be used as a remote trackpad and keyboard with the mini would be nice as well if you're not too busy Steve!

harrier
Dec 8, 2008, 10:29 PM
Has anyone been given a good answer on why we have to jailbreak our iphones to get the camera to capture video?

And why haven't we seen voice turn-by-turn direction GPS navigation yet? What's the latest on the rumor Tom-Tom was working on an iphone app?

And what about the long anticipated copy and paste feature? There's been several times where I've had to actually write something down on paper from one screen and bring up another and type it in...

I hope MacWorld offers some breakthroughs here.

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nconnella
Jan 2, 2009, 02:44 PM
Question for someone with macworld experience:
If a 32gb Iphone is announced at macworld, when would the release date probably be? When apple announces a new product does the release date usually follow shortly after? Or could it be as long as Summer? How has apple acted in the past when announcing a new/udpated product? Thanks!