Declining Production? [Archive]

Dreadnought

Feb 22, 2004, 05:42 AM

I am checking some members now and then that I will be passing on the list. A lot of them fold for more then one team, others have stopped folding since the active processors in one week are standing on zero. So we have a lot of folders that are helping around if we really need them!

jbeetz

Feb 22, 2004, 01:31 PM

I think we may be having a tinker storm. My PCs have received nothing but tinkers since the 10th, I haven't checked the G5 but suspect the same has happened there as well. If you look at everyone's production, it seems to have suddenly leveled out.

MrMacMan

Feb 22, 2004, 03:01 PM

Yeah I'm kinda worrying...
SAGoons are now outproducing us...

And today we fell out of orange (less then 20k in 24 hours)...

Ech, come on guys...
Other teams have a slight loss of power... like a slow decline... but out loss rate is much higher...

wdlove

Feb 22, 2004, 04:05 PM

My G4 is trying its best MrMacman. What is a Tinker Storm. We just need to have more G5's.

Vlade

Feb 22, 2004, 05:21 PM

Its because of the tinker storm, macs take a bigger hit on tinkers than PCs do, so thats why its effecting ALL of the mac teams. If you look around at folding-community.org you will see, they just added some new -advmethods gromacs units, so anyone using mc68k's scripts should hopefully get some new gromacs.

MacFan25

Feb 22, 2004, 05:35 PM

I noticed a decline over the weekend too. Maybe next week we'll get a boost.

I've been crunching the same WU since Thursday and its only 26% done. :( Must be a tinker.

jbeetz

Feb 22, 2004, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by wdlove
My G4 is trying its best MrMacman. What is a Tinker Storm. We just need to have more G5's.

Ah, more G5's would be vunderbar. I made up "tinker storm". I meant that there were a lot, a whole lot, of tinkers falling from the sky all at once. Meteor, tinker, whatever.

Oh, a "tinker" is a type of work unit that is, well, slow to process. Many don't like them because they are low points-wise if you were to do a points-per-clock cycle calculation. Not as bad as a genome, but they do take a while. 40 hours on a 2GHz G5. Causes your "production" to fall rather steeply, but if everyone is getting them, the playing field is still level.

MrMacMan

Feb 22, 2004, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by wdlove
My G4 is trying its best MrMacman. What is a Tinker Storm. We just need to have more G5's.
Tinker and Gromacsare 2 types of units your computer gets.

Tinkers are for macs slower then gromacs.

For PC they are more balanced.

The 'tinker storm' seems to be a lot of tinker work units being given out.

Mustang Mac

Feb 23, 2004, 12:42 PM

You guys have noticed it too. The playing field definitely is not level! We at Team MacOS X are getting hammered hard as well. I'm talking our daily production was cut in half in a matter of four days! Check these stats from EOC. It is pretty U-G-L-Y! I fold with both Macs and PCs and have posted some unit disparity over at our forums. I'd like to have Vijay explain it to us.

02/21/04 _13,509.43 _370
02/20/04 _15,889.23 _489
02/19/04 _16,940.71 _660
02/18/04 _19,574.33 _739
02/17/04 _20,331.37 _735

jelloshotsrule

Feb 23, 2004, 12:59 PM

i had to take my g5 off as my computer was severely screwed up, and it seemed to happen around the time i installed folding

i could put it back on, but not until after i'm done some important stuff that i've got going on right now... maybe in a few weeks

that's 1200 or so points a week, nothing huge, but just starting a head count of who has dropped out recently

MrMacMan

Feb 23, 2004, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
i had to take my g5 off as my computer was severely screwed up, and it seemed to happen around the time i installed folding

i could put it back on, but not until after i'm done some important stuff that i've got going on right now... maybe in a few weeks

that's 1200 or so points a week, nothing huge, but just starting a head count of who has dropped out recently

Aww too bad man.

We haven't heard of any horror storys with folding at all, I doubt that was the problem.

1200 is no small sum, its very nice.

When your machine gets back on its feet please reinstall! :)

Folding members like 'Zeke' have been doing well until recently...

Ah damnit.

--MrMacMan

mc68k

Feb 23, 2004, 11:15 PM

not so single out anyone, but Khaldei lost some good power. that exaplins the slight decline....

but the recent large-scale decline is clearly on stanford's end

servers being screwed up is usually reflected as everyone having lower output, which doesnt seem to be the case. so maybe the tinker hypothesis is a good one...or a decline in active members (new blood)

MrMacMan

Feb 23, 2004, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by mc68k
not so single out anyone, but Khaldei lost some good power. that exaplins the slight decline....

but the recent large-scale decline is clearly on stanford's end

servers being screwed up is usually reflected as everyone having lower output, which doesnt seem to be the case. so maybe the tinker hypothesis is a good one...or a decline in active members (new blood)

Yep the tinkers are hurting bad...

But look at the SaGoons...how have they not only countered that affect, but aren't even slowing down... geez... they only recruited like 1000 people in the past week... holy hell.

And some new blood would be nice :D

Khaldei has lost some steam, but he is still coming after you! :eek:

mc68k

Feb 23, 2004, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by MrMacman
And some new blood would be nice :D new blood that actively stays after a few weeks is ideal, others are welcome too

idkew

Feb 24, 2004, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by Dreadnought
I am checking some members now and then that I will be passing on the list. A lot of them fold for more then one team, others have stopped folding since the active processors in one week are standing on zero. So we have a lot of folders that are helping around if we really need them!

i've stopped folding for the time being. my fan sounds like it wants to die. she can't handle the heat.

aus_dave

Feb 24, 2004, 03:39 AM

I was plodding away nicely but put things on hold with the recent hot weather we had here (45C, that's hot :D).

I'm back into it now though but I'm only a minor player with a dual G5.

jbeetz

Feb 24, 2004, 10:36 AM

I can't explain our production struggle for sure, but logs like this put a dent in my contribution!

[16:03:40] + Processing work unit
[16:03:40] Core required: FahCore_65.exe
[16:03:40] Core found.
[16:03:40] Working on Unit 07 [February 19 16:03:40]
[16:03:40] + Working ...
[16:03:46] Folding@Home Client Core Version 2.47 (June 14, 2002)

and so on and so on until...

[07:50:15] Finished a frame (400)
[07:50:15] TINKER is Exiting following Normal Termination
[07:50:15]
[07:50:15] Finished Work Unit:

it got done on the 24th.

Interesting though, now I'm back on gromacs again. Maybe it was a server issue at Stanford.

bousozoku

Feb 24, 2004, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by mc68k
new blood that actively stays after a few weeks is ideal, others are welcome too

Even getting the short timers back for one or two work units would be great. :)

shemp9999

Feb 24, 2004, 07:52 PM

i am nice and flu-like right now, so i had a chance to do some remote maintenance on my machines. i had to (at least temporarily) disable 4 nighttime linux procs, but did fix a screwed up crontab on a 2x2GHz G5 (stupid typo) and a cleaned up 4 errant nighttime linux xeons (i'll have to keep an eye on them).

i also realized i am folding on a few macs i can't remember the hostnames of. they are probably doing ok. the macs do real well overall. hmm.

anyway, i might see a little more performance now.

twiztidn8v

Feb 24, 2004, 08:52 PM

sorry to hear about your flu shemp, but at least something good is coming from it eh?

Get well soon...

wdlove

Feb 24, 2004, 10:04 PM

I also hope that you will be feeling better soon shemp9999. Just be sure to get plenty of rest and fluids. Tylenol if you have a fever. We need you strong.

Try to be patient MrMacman. The Rev. will be out soon, then there will be more G5's added.

MrMacman I was checking the Optimizing thread, your thoughts on Journaling? Or if I have UPS Backups Pro to shutdown my Mac if there is a power outage good enough? Along with my OWC Mercury Elite.

MrMacMan

Feb 24, 2004, 11:52 PM

haha thanks wdlove.

I haven't heard of Journaling increasing speed any...

Don't waste your UPS on your mac for long really, if you have a poweroutage, save all of your documents and stuff you have opened and shut the machine down -- you might need that power.

I don't know what OWC Mercury Elite is...

Power supply?

Get well shemp! Hope its not too bad!

aus_dave -- No G5 is a minor player, I'm a minor player with 1 processor at 800... haha.

--MrMacMan

mc68k

Feb 25, 2004, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by mj_1903
Do my eyes deceive me or is Team Macrumors in a rather heavy decline?

Does anyone know why we are dropping so massively right now? i checked statsman.info (http://statsman.info), which paints a much better picture

maybe the trendline is misleading?

FritzTheWonderM

Feb 25, 2004, 04:10 PM

Ahh, back from a boonedogle to our Las Vegas lab, (I get paid to go there... :D ) I have found a little extra horsepower. I added 15 CPUs to the fray, which should be reporting in the next day or so, (blast those Tinkers!).

Hey Shemp9999, I can still see you from here...

Mr. Anderson

Feb 25, 2004, 06:16 PM

As long as we can keep the knights away :D

Hopefully this is just a temporary thing...

D

wdlove

Feb 25, 2004, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by MrMacman
haha thanks wdlove.

I haven't heard of Journaling increasing speed any...

Don't waste your UPS on your mac for long really, if you have a poweroutage, save all of your documents and stuff you have opened and shut the machine down -- you might need that power.

I don't know what OWC Mercury Elite is...

Power supply?

--MrMacMan

The OWC Mercury Elite is an external Firewire Hard Drive. 12 GB. It was recommended by Dr. Mac Bob Levitus at MYNY 2002, when I inquired for his opinion.

How do you figure that the UPS is a waste? It is set to do it automatically, if you happen to be away from home when a power outage might occur.

MrMacMan

Feb 25, 2004, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by FritzTheWonderM
Ahh, back from a boonedogle to our Las Vegas lab, (I get paid to go there... :D ) I have found a little extra horsepower. I added 15 CPUs to the fray, which should be reporting in the next day or so, (blast those Tinkers!).

Hey Shemp9999, I can still see you from here...

:applauds:

Wow 15 CPU's just like that.

Wow.

You are amazing. :D

wdlove -- I'm not sure what you are asking me about the hard drive... (OWC). Do you have it or are you looking into buying it?

The UPS is very useful when you are home.

Do you know how long your computer runs when the power is off and the UPS kicks in?

mc68k -- a very different graph indeed... hmm I wonder how they show a greater difference... one is the past week and one is the past months?

mc68k

Feb 26, 2004, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by MrMacman
a very different graph indeed... hmm I wonder how they show a greater difference... one is the past week and one is the past months? looks like statsman has finer detail upon further inspection

TimDaddy

Feb 26, 2004, 03:24 AM

I've got two G4 iMac folding. That's the best I can do, unless they have a program for OS 7.5 or the iPod! Maybe I could do some sweet-talking at the local library.

wdlove

Feb 26, 2004, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by MrMacman
[B]:applauds:
wdlove -- I'm not sure what you are asking me about the hard drive... (OWC). Do you have it or are you looking into buying it?

The UPS is very useful when you are home.

Do you know how long your computer runs when the power is off and the UPS kicks in? B]

I am already using the OWC.

When the electricity goes off, the UPS immediately starts making an ear piercing sound. It will allow approximately 15 minutes to make backups and shutdown prior to the end of battery life.

I'm sorry that I confused you MrMacman. My actual question was to elicit your thoughts on Journaling. Not sure that I totally understand the function.

shemp9999

Feb 26, 2004, 03:09 PM

Hey Shemp9999, I can still see you from here...

the hairy part is the back of my head :D

good to see the added boost. i have now accomplished my (rather lowend) goal of reaching the top 1000 folders...

thanks for the get well wishes guys. i'm feeling much better.:p

MrMacMan

Feb 26, 2004, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by wdlove
I am already using the OWC.

When the electricity goes off, the UPS immediately starts making an ear piercing sound. It will allow approximately 15 minutes to make backups and shutdown prior to the end of battery life.

I'm sorry that I confused you MrMacman. My actual question was to elicit your thoughts on Journaling. Not sure that I totally understand the function.
Journaling in a little more depth then apple gives it:
http://www.lafcpug.org/features_file_journaling.html

Its possible it will slow things that access your hard drive, but booting will be faster... ect.

shemp9999 -- Good to know your feeling better.

Also looking better is our output, nice jump there. Back to 23k range is a good thing.

:D

shemp9999

Feb 26, 2004, 08:51 PM

shemp9999 -- Good to know your feeling better.

danka mrmacman. funny, that's what my boss said!

Sailfish

Feb 26, 2004, 10:01 PM

Keep your eye on your backdoor, SPCR didn't like the whipping we gave them and had to sell their soul to ARM Systems for revenge.

They should be blowing our doors off here in a few days, so they will be eyeing MacRumors next.

At least we smacked them one good, been playing with us for quite some time.

Your turn to taunt them...

enjoy.

#1971

:)

MrMacMan

Feb 27, 2004, 06:11 AM

Sailfish thanks for the concern, but I am more worried about SAGoons, which are outproducing up much higher...

When they get posted on the pottential threats list we will take notice, but really their highest production and our lowest production are the same.

--MrMacMan

wdlove

Feb 27, 2004, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by MrMacman
Journaling in a little more depth then apple gives it:
http://www.lafcpug.org/features_file_journaling.html

Its possible it will slow things that access your hard drive, but booting will be faster... ect.

Also looking better is our output, nice jump there. Back to 23k range is a good thing.

:D

My G4 is running flawlessly at the moment except for Mail, that I don't plan on using Journaling. Why bother with almost perfection. All du to my friends on the forum.

It is always good news to hear about our improved output. :)

Stelliform

Feb 27, 2004, 12:11 PM

On careful analysis, ;) I think some of the problem on production has been many of the small contributers have been dropping off. (Since our production per use has been spiking, and our number of active members has been dwindling.) It may take another membership drive to get us to break 30k a day....

wdlove

Feb 27, 2004, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by Stelliform
On careful analysis, ;) I think some of the problem on production has been many of the small contributers have been dropping off. (Since our production per use has been spiking, and our number of active members has been dwindling.) It may take another membership drive to get us to break 30k a day....

I know that I'm one of the small contributors. My plans are to be a loyal member. The banner that is under development should be a great boost for our next membership drive.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60689

bousozoku

Feb 27, 2004, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
As long as we can keep the knights away :D

Hopefully this is just a temporary thing...

D

Yes, being overrun by them yet again would be demoralising.

MacFan25

Feb 27, 2004, 03:42 PM

I'm thinking that once the banner gets up, we'll see a jump in members which may push us to 30k a day.

As for me, I'm still working on a tinker that I've had since last Thursday. At the rate its going, it should be done sometime next week. :(

shemp9999

Feb 28, 2004, 12:05 AM

yeah, we were well over 400 active users a few weeks ago. :rolleyes:

the wondermutt has me a titch worried though, which is a good thing. :D :D :D
must raise the ante...;)

p.s. while i don't understand the helix banner on its own (what is the team number, the url, or the purpose?), it sure is pretty.:p :p

hopefully, the hoi polloi will click through to get the particulars.:confused:

Dros

Feb 28, 2004, 12:16 AM

Perhaps this should be in a different thread... but it relates to declining production. Mine, at least. I had three machines going with folding. One is a dual Athlon (Linux) running a single client. Recently it locked up several times, always sometime after starting the client.

If I don't start the client, it is fine. When I start it, it locks after a bit. So, it seems from my reading elsewhere that it could be a sign that I'm not cooling the CPU properly, although I ran the client for weeks straight without a problem. Can I assign the client to the other CPU to test if the other CPU is not cooling. Although I know some Unix, I am not certain how I would do that.

Could I have a bad unit that is giving the client conniptions? Do I delete something to start it fresh? I connect to this machine from home, so if it locks and I am away it is no fun.

I was doing 500 a week, and now I am treading water.

shemp9999

Feb 28, 2004, 12:26 AM

dros --

i am noticing similar results with some xeon machines. these are stock 2x2GHz boxes.

i've had to keep a 'weather eye' on their processes, as they sometimes have run away.:(

MrMacMan

Feb 28, 2004, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by Dros
Perhaps this should be in a different thread... but it relates to declining production. Mine, at least. I had three machines going with folding. One is a dual Athlon (Linux) running a single client. Recently it locked up several times, always sometime after starting the client.
...

I remember Windows client that limit how much CPU folding can use...

Does anyone remember the command for Linux?

You could tinker around with that....

And the nights are far down there... 16k

Dros

Feb 28, 2004, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by wdlove
I know that I'm one of the small contributors. My plans are to be a loyal member. The banner that is under development should be a great boost for our next membership drive.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60689

You took a big jump (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_members.php?TeamID=3446&pagenumber=6) today, wdlove!

MrMacMan

Feb 29, 2004, 11:21 PM

Fun fun fun... wdlove will get up there... :)

haha.

Dreadnought

Mar 1, 2004, 03:23 PM

It looks like we are back with our production. The "tinker storm" has blown over. We are producing about the same as when we where behind the knights, before we got them in our sights! So, when our top folders get all their stuf back up, we will probably get close to 28-29K.

BTW: It looks like we get a "tinker storm" about once a month...

MrMacMan

Mar 3, 2004, 12:33 AM

Dreadnought

Mar 3, 2004, 12:53 PM

We are near 25k today...
SAGoons are in the Red... damnit...

SilentPcReview almost matched our production today... ech...

Saw that too Mr. MacMan and am not pleased! :( When we where getting close to the Knights, we gotten a lot of new folders (about 30 per week). Just looked at our new folders and it's only 9 in the last week... Get that banner in the air (or on the frontpage :D )

familyte

Mar 3, 2004, 05:02 PM

SAGoons are in the Red...
SilentPcReview almost matched our production today... ech...

The SA folks have gathered the numbers and seem to be on a mission...

SPCR has gathered a Vender that likes to burn in the machines prior to shipping, guess they got to make sure they work...

What a convenient way to Fold...

MrMacMan

Mar 3, 2004, 07:51 PM

The SA folks have gathered the numbers and seem to be on a mission...

SPCR has gathered a Vender that likes to burn in the machines prior to shipping, guess they got to make sure they work...

What a convenient way to Fold...

Can you tell your Team that they have ignored my request for this line of test to be deleted from your website
Enter 1971 and you will be folding with the number 1 Folding@home Mac team!

MacRumors it the #1 mac team no matter what way you look at the rankings, I have posted on your board about this, can you please remind them?

familyte -- If not I will just come by your board again, which I feel is un-necessary... Don't you?

SAGoons will be destroying us, no way of us stopping that unless we get the banner anytime soon...(and even then we need a miracle)

As for SPCR right now they are matching our production... not really passing us but I fear we will be outproduced by them long enough... yeah you know what that means. (we are still outproducing them for the week however)...

--MrMacMan

familyte

Mar 4, 2004, 11:12 AM

Can you tell your Team that they have ignored my request for this line of test to be deleted from your website

MacRumors it the #1 mac team no matter what way you look at the rankings, I have posted on your board about this, can you please remind them?

familyte -- If not I will just come by your board again, which I feel is un-necessary... Don't you?

Hey, I come in good spirit, I'm not the web designer.

But you know the website was in the process of a remodel makeover the last time you came for a visit. I've searched for what you mentioned, and I don't see it. So if in fact it is there please point to a link.

Now back to the topic at hand.

SAGoons will be destroying us, no way of us stopping that unless we get the banner anytime soon...(and even then we need a miracle)

As for SPCR right now they are matching our production... not really passing us but I fear we will be outproduced by them long enough... yeah you know what that means. (we are still outproducing them for the week however)...

--MrMacMan
Keep up the fold!

Dreadnought

Mar 4, 2004, 05:41 PM

We will!

BTW, want to join the # 1 Mac team?!? ;)

familyte

Mar 4, 2004, 06:01 PM

We will!

BTW, want to join the # 1 Mac team?!? ;)
No, although thank you very much for asking.
Fold fold and fold some more!

MrMacMan

Mar 4, 2004, 11:08 PM

Hey, I come in good spirit, I'm not the web designer.

But you know the website was in the process of a remodel makeover the last time you came for a visit. I've searched for what you mentioned, and I don't see it. So if in fact it is there please point to a link.

Now back to the topic at hand.

Keep up the fold!

this is the thread I addressed the concerns (http://teammacosx.homeunix.com/forum/cgi-bin/ikonboard.pl?;act=ST;f=1;t=222;hl=macman)
This is the offending page (http://teammacosx.homeunix.com/software.html)
I did post this at the end of Jan... still hasn't been addressed...

Keep folding....

familyte

Mar 5, 2004, 01:14 AM

I did post this at the end of Jan... still hasn't been addressed...

You know I came in peace, try to stay with the dialog of this thread...

All that I can say that your a number one team in many aspects, but friendliness is not one of them. If your wondering why your loosing members, you may want to rethink how you treat visitors...

Good Luck

Rower_CPU

Mar 5, 2004, 01:16 AM

You know I came in peace, try to stay with the dialog of this thread...

All that I can say that I is that your a number one team in many aspects, but friendliness is not one of them. If your wondering why your loosing members, you may want to think how you treat visitors...

Good Luck

Based on that thread, it doesn't look like you're much better. ;)

But, go ahead and characterize the whole team based on one person if you want. Our recruiting efforts speak for themselves. :)

edit - Besides, the characterization of the misinformation as
the small details of an obscure detail listed on an out of the way page, in the site
is less than truthful. It's the top-level page for a major section of the site and the text is in the 1st paragraph.

Seems more like a willful misrepresentation of the truth, especially since you were notified over a month ago.

familyte

Mar 5, 2004, 01:23 AM

Based on that thread, it doesn't look like you're much better. ;)

But, go ahead and characterize the whole team based on one person if you want. Our recruiting efforts speak for themselves. :)

All that I am characterizing is the treatment that I have received in a couple of post. I was hoping for a off topic, but I see that won't happen.

FritzTheWonderM

Mar 5, 2004, 08:51 AM

All that I am characterizing is the treatment that I have received in a couple of post. I was hoping for a off topic, but I see that won't happen.

Dang kids, do I need to send you to your room? All of a sudden we can't take a little taunting? If we have to kick their butts at folding that's fine, but we can at least be polite while we crush their spirit with our ever increasing numbers... :D

MrMacMan

Mar 6, 2004, 12:30 AM

You know I came in peace, try to stay with the dialog of this thread...

All that I can say that your a number one team in many aspects, but friendliness is not one of them. If your wondering why your loosing members, you may want to rethink how you treat visitors...

Good Luck
Well I hoped it would have been addressed since your team said it would be.

I thought that was a fair time period... no? Should I wait more time?

Anyway friendlyness all depends from perspective.

Viewing the text I didn't demand that it be removed at once, I understand that it takes time for things to get done and your team agreeded, and then let the topic die, as it should have... I'm just trying to address your teams small issue.

Is my issue being friendly? I don't know about that, ask the dozens of people I have helped on this board... :p

wdlove

Mar 6, 2004, 12:04 PM

All that I am characterizing is the treatment that I have received in a couple of post. I was hoping for a off topic, but I see that won't happen.

It does seem that if one is a loyal member of MacRumors, they would want to support its team.

I agree with MrMacman.

I have found everyone to be very courteous. I consider myself to be kind to everyone. Not sure who you think it is that mistreated you? From my perspective Rower_CPU and MrMacman are very helpful and positive. I can personally vouch for MrMacman he has been especially patient with me.

A lot of the treatment that a person receives depends on how they interact with others.

TimDaddy

Mar 6, 2004, 06:40 PM

bousozoku

Mar 6, 2004, 07:28 PM

Maybe we should all remember that when reading a post, there is no tone of voice. Our brain makes that up. So maybe, when I think someone is biting my head off, it's all IN my head!

edit: Maybe we should all check our damned spelling BEFORE clicking submit! :D

You're right, of course. In addition to checking spelling, is checking the usefulness of a post. If spell checking and grammar checking were used, we might still see posts with no value or even, off-topic posts. :D

Well, since production isn't declining, we have some time to rest and re-think ourselves. <ducks>

shemp9999

Mar 6, 2004, 07:54 PM

you've been kickin' arse, m'mutt...
so much so, i've been watching my butt!

you got me to optimize the procs that i own,
but i've also just turned off the ones from at home.

so here's to the challenge and to the cure,
but it'll take a wee bit more to knock at my door.

to bring it on topic, i'll say it's like this,
i'm folding as fast as i can.

:D

MrMacMan

Mar 7, 2004, 12:47 AM

Nice Rhyme.

Guess who popped on our Threats list? :mad:
No i'm not talking about SAGoons... the Team Mac Os X has had trouble with...

come on guys...

britboy

Mar 7, 2004, 07:54 AM

Whilst it isn't going to make all that much difference to our overall production, I've just added an Athlon XP 3200+ to my folders :)

Bring on the MR folding revival!

shemp9999

Mar 7, 2004, 11:21 AM

hey MrMacman.

happy b-day. didja get a G5?

:D

familyte

Mar 7, 2004, 04:00 PM

Nice Rhyme.

Guess who popped on our Threats list? :mad:
No i'm not talking about SAGoons... the Team Mac Os X has had trouble with...

come on guys...
This is where I was going with my original post. Sorry to stir the waters so. I'll see what can can be done about the issues at hand.

Took a while to get back on topic, but hey, Rome wasn't built in a day!

The SA folks have gathered the numbers and seem to be on a mission...

SPCR has gathered a Vender that likes to burn in the machines prior to shipping, guess they got to make sure they work...

What a convenient way to Fold...

Happy Birthday "Mr Mac Man" and I do hope that a G5 is on order.

Best wishes! Fellow Mac Folders :)

shemp9999

Mar 8, 2004, 12:01 AM

seems like we're at 333 active users now, and i remember a peak of some 444 last month, and there were 296 when i got on board in 12/03. :rolleyes:

we seem to be having a retention problem. perhaps we should try to attract some corpo-edu-resource-enabled types...who would sponsor a macrumors/maccentric team? :confused:

could we attract an oreilly.com or a smalldog.com or macsales.com? how about the zdnet mac-convert david coursey? :p

to paraphrase george clinton; "who's got the procs? we want the procs. who's got the procs? we want the procs." :cool:

late.shemp9999

vannote

Mar 8, 2004, 03:16 AM

MrMacMan

Mar 8, 2004, 06:21 AM

Has anyone approached http://www.vt.edu/ ?hahah.

hey MrMacman.

happy b-day. didja get a G5?

:D

thanks...

No I didn't get a G5... woulda helped tho... gah...

Folding.extremeoverclocking.com <--- down?

I can't get it.

jbeetz

Mar 8, 2004, 03:36 PM

uhoh. check the Stanford projects page... another tinker storm's'a brewin... fortunately they look to be little fellas.

http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/psummary.html

Dreadnought

Mar 8, 2004, 04:14 PM

uhoh. check the Stanford projects page... another tinker storm's'a brewin... fortunately they look to be little fellas.

http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/psummary.html

I really don't hope so... I am just folding at a constant level of almost 200 points a day! Would like to hold on to that for a while!

BTW, I have passed the 5000 points!!!!

shemp9999

Mar 8, 2004, 09:29 PM

a super - hey now!! - congrats to fritzthewondermutt for the one-day spanking! i'm impressed! (that's 1291 me/1318 you according to extremeoverclocking) but i am really smoking you today :D

i seem to be getting a lot of points per wu...(ave of 42.4 points/WU over 44 WU. yesterday i averaged 28.7 points/WU over 45 WU.

EDIT--that was my vague reference to the topic of tinker storm. it hasn't hit my machines yet. --/EDIT

keep it up, i'll tip my hat your way when you pass me.:p

I really don't hope so... I am just folding at a constant level of almost 200 points a day! Would like to hold on to that for a while!

BTW, I have passed the 5000 points!!!!

congrats!!!

is that from one G5? a dual 2 GHZ? sweet! :cool:

p.s. are you named after the iron-coated wooden battleships of yore? (thank you history channel);)

Mr VacBob

Mar 8, 2004, 11:41 PM

MrMacMan

Mar 9, 2004, 12:13 AM

Hi from the Something Awful Goons (http://www.somethingawful.com) :cool:

The reason we last through Tinker storms is because most of the processors are Athlons. Our Macs (including my old G3) do take hits, and I have to keep reminding everyone about -advmethods. I'll make sure to see if your autorun script is better than ours :D

As for that whole scoring thing,
1) we bought some banner ads on our forums recently
2) "SA Forum Goons Currently Logged In: 2699

There are currently 2422 SA Goons (out of a possible 27,970) and 277 wanna-be members on the boards"

If you want to know why TINKER is so slow and GROMACS is fast... TINKER is written in FORTRAN, and there are no good FORTRAN compilers for Macs. GROMACS is in C and uses AltiVec.

haha I love the site... Each category in the rating system is based out of a possible -10 score (-10 being the worst). The overall score is based out of a possible -50 score (-50 being the worst).
Yeah which one is worse? never got that hahaha.

If we could harvest the power of the guest on this forum... we could own... but...
At 1 AM EST... 433 (64 members and 369 guests)

Errrrrr? :eek:

We know why the tinkers are slow... just why even use them anymore? no frikken reason IMHO... make everything go slower...

The Teams lose and folding loses... gah.

BTW, tell your team to SLOW DOWN!

Geez. :eek:

mc68k

Mar 9, 2004, 12:35 AM

I'll make sure to see if your autorun script is better than ours :D
yes, do tell ;)

vannote

Mar 9, 2004, 04:36 AM

yes, do tell ;)
Hmm, Don't force a public code review. I remember taking a look at the scripts a while ago and I did have some suggestions (I did cringe a couple of times).

Let me know and I will re-review the latest scripts and PM my comments/suggestions.

FritzTheWonderM

Mar 9, 2004, 10:18 AM

Dreadnought

Mar 9, 2004, 11:47 AM

congrats!!!

is that from one G5? a dual 2 GHZ? sweet! :cool:

p.s. are you named after the iron-coated wooden battleships of yore? (thank you history channel);)

Thanks Shemp9999! It's not a 2.0 but a dual 1.8 folding 24/7. And the name comes from a Magic (the Gathering) card. Also heard a while back on the Discovery channel of the English fighter class ships called Dreadnought, but no!

Don't panic

Mar 9, 2004, 12:45 PM

Dreadnought

Mar 9, 2004, 01:13 PM

got you dreadnought! ;)

now on to the top 100! and then 10000 points! and then I take new mexico! oregon! south dakota! california! florida! and then the white house!!!!!

ok... where is my valium.......

Yeah, noticed that... saw you coming from a mile away! Even thought about it to get my B&W up and running, just to keep you off a bit longer! But if I remember correctly you fold with 6 procs, I only have two... But watch out, one day I will get you! LOL ;) You are the first that passed me! But your goals are good, I have the same!

shemp9999

Mar 9, 2004, 09:50 PM

Hmm, I wonder if the 20 GHz of pentium machines I just added will fair better in the upcoming Tinker storm, (um, yeah 8 more machines in my fleet, but I had to settle for Pentium 4s).

Hey Shemp9999: "INCOMING!"

i got a few PIII procs (4 now) in my farm, but they did just replace a dual 900 PIII with a dual 2 Xeon this week...

and, yeah, you are stabilizing on me. i had been passing you by a few hunnies a day, but now were sitting tight at ~9500 pt diff. i'm looking for you in my threats. if you persist, i may want to turn the home macs back on. and maybe find a few more nighttime machines at the office (i have easy access to about 2 terahertz - and that's just on the linux desktops).

but i might just let you roll on by, too. i'm not gunning for anything in particular, and i feel like i'm giving, so...

MrMacMan

Mar 10, 2004, 12:06 AM

FritzTheWonderM

Mar 11, 2004, 02:15 PM

but i might just let you roll on by, too. i'm not gunning for anything in particular, and i feel like i'm giving, so...

I agree, I already passed any milestones I wanted to hit. I won't be rolling by anybody anytime soon though as someone powered off half my machines, (that lab isn't being used right now). :(

shemp9999

Mar 11, 2004, 03:47 PM

I agree, I already passed any milestones I wanted to hit. I won't be rolling by anybody anytime soon though as someone powered off half my machines, (that lab isn't being used right now). :(

that's too bad, man. you did wake me up though. i was looking over mah shoulder...

wdlove

Mar 11, 2004, 08:23 PM

An update on my production. My wife just allowed me to install folding on her 15" PowerBook 1.25 and iBook clamshell 500. Neither one is going 24/7, but I hope that it will still help. The installation was flawless because of the patient assistance from MrMacman on my PowerMac. Again thank you.

Dreadnought

Mar 12, 2004, 10:37 AM

Comeon Fritz, we need those machines! Keep up the good work all!

MrMacMan

Mar 14, 2004, 11:34 PM