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MacRumors
Feb 26, 2004, 07:52 PM
MacWorld reports (http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/editors/archives/000083.php) on an Apple press event today previewing a new San Francisco Apple Store (http://www.apple.com/retail/sanfrancisco/).

The two story structure opens on Saturday. As an added bonus, the first people in the store have the option of purchasing a mysterious $250 "Lucky Bag" full of 7 or 8 products -- all but one from Apple. The retail value of the contents... reportedly between $600 and $1000.

Despite inquiries, Apple wouldn't give out any details as the contents of the bag.

JohnGillilan
Feb 26, 2004, 07:53 PM
Just wait until those hit eBay . . . .

ginoledesma
Feb 26, 2004, 07:57 PM
Let's see...

1. iPod Mini
2. iSight
3. Apple Wireless Mouse
4. Mac OS X Dog Tags
5. iPod Belt Clip / Accessories
6. Apple Care
7. iLife '04

:D

reyesmac
Feb 26, 2004, 07:57 PM
That is a really neat promotion. I would buy one if I was there.especially if I could see how big the bag was and as long as I knew that I was getting hardware and not just software.

Stelliform
Feb 26, 2004, 08:00 PM
Hmm, maybe they will have the new G5 cubes in them. ;)

floatingspirit
Feb 26, 2004, 08:01 PM
That's a little trick they may have borrowed from the Japanese. The big name department stores have such sales and some people just go nuts with it! Haha. Who would've imagined a computer maker doing it! Go Apple!:p

Grimace
Feb 26, 2004, 08:02 PM
$250 is a lot, but if Apple can guarantee that the minimum retail value is $600 - it's probably a good deal. We are either going to very envious or laughing in pity.

QCassidy352
Feb 26, 2004, 08:04 PM
I'd buy one. I don't think they'd screw people over on this one - the press would be too bad.

ThomasJefferson
Feb 26, 2004, 08:11 PM
Oh, just pass out some ipods for free and be done with it!

DamnDJ
Feb 26, 2004, 08:12 PM
I don't care what's in it! I want an Apple Lucky Bag!

jero
Feb 26, 2004, 08:21 PM
id want one.

applemacdude
Feb 26, 2004, 08:24 PM
Im planning to buy one unless someone else takes em before me

dukemeiser
Feb 26, 2004, 08:26 PM
I'd buy one, then I'd sell the bag on eBay. (Not the contents, just the bag:D)

Photorun
Feb 26, 2004, 08:26 PM
I wish this was a "no purchase necessary" from, say, NYC?!? I'd pony up $250 to see what's in the bag!!! (http://www.homestarrunner.com/whatsinthebag.html)

DTG
Feb 26, 2004, 08:26 PM
Here's hoping they do this for the launch of the Apple London Store, I'll be there for sure with ?£200? in hand!!

Only problem with the launch day in London is that there will be *so* many people from the continent there crashing the party!!

bidge
Feb 26, 2004, 08:27 PM
Why I am on the other side of the world again?

barbaloot
Feb 26, 2004, 08:29 PM
I really hope it's a iPod mini and then a bunch of other stuff. Software or something like that. So pretty much you are paying for the mini and they are just throwing the other stuff in for free.

mms
Feb 26, 2004, 08:33 PM
Even better... it could be a new neat gadget that Apple is debuting, and selling along with some cheap software. It seems logical, because if they include items that they have already had, there is a good chance that people already have them, especially since these are Mac fanatics that attend the opening of an Apple Store. It would be really disappointing for the people who buy the bag in anticipation and find that it's all items they already have.

Chaszmyr
Feb 26, 2004, 08:40 PM
Oh man I wish i was in san francisco, i'd buy one in an instant

mvc
Feb 26, 2004, 08:41 PM
Nah, its just a clearance sale gimmick - lots of copies of Appleworks 4 and original iMac Hockey Puck mice ;)

ThorPrime
Feb 26, 2004, 08:43 PM
Any one heading to the opening and heading through santa cruz county? :D

$250 for $600-$1000 in apple stuff is insane. I could really use a 40 gig iPod for $250...

ZildjianKX
Feb 26, 2004, 08:54 PM
Now we know how much the stuff in the bag costs to make :D

Steven1621
Feb 26, 2004, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by ginoledesma
Let's see...

1. iPod Mini
2. iSight
3. Apple Wireless Mouse
4. Mac OS X Dog Tags
5. iPod Belt Clip / Accessories
6. Apple Care
7. iLife '04

:D

pretty good guess, maybe a .mac as well?

bidge
Feb 26, 2004, 09:11 PM
What will the one non apple thing be????

shemp9999
Feb 26, 2004, 09:19 PM
sorry guys, i like the bag idea, for sure, but i don't wait in line.:D

'sides, i'm getting over a cold...and it's been raining like crazy here.

stiiiiiilllll,,,,,,, iii'llll BART over and see what's happeniiiiiiiiiinnnnnng.

<dream>
and mmmmmmmmayyyyyybe i'll ggget them tto aactually take back this POS wireless keyboard.
</dream>


http://homepage.mac.com/hsk/applejapan.html

mvc
Feb 26, 2004, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by shemp9999
[B]sorry guys, i like the bag idea, for sure, but i don't wait in line.:D

'sides, i'm getting over a cold...and it's been raining like crazy here.

stiiiiiilllll,,,,,,, iii'llll BART over and see what's happeniiiiiiiiiinnnnnng.

<dream>
and mmmmmmmmayyyyyybe i'll ggget them tto aactually take back this POS wireless keyboard.
</dream>


So that's why your username has so many 9's in it :)

shemp9999
Feb 26, 2004, 09:27 PM
lolllll :rolleyes:

Inspector Lee
Feb 26, 2004, 10:01 PM
Are the contents of each bag going to be the same? If not, I can envision some donnybrooks breaking out.

shemp9999
Feb 26, 2004, 10:06 PM
i heard there were to be some 'special' bags.

AssassinOfGates
Feb 26, 2004, 10:13 PM
:( ) Holy **** thats a long line in Japan.

Anywho, it better be something decent. I remember that one day in november (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14502&perpage=25&pagenumber=2) a year ago, they gave out crap for goods.

If its iPod Minis and iSight for sure, thatd be sweet. Too bad I'm broke and more towards Anaheim, otherwise I'd buy it. One thing tho, that place will be PACKED! The event I mentioned earlier was in ohio and not even a grand opening and was full of customers... imagine what it will be like in SF :( :D

Omad0n
Feb 26, 2004, 10:41 PM
how awsome would that be to get one of the bags. I don't really have the money, but hell I'd buy one if i were there. Ahhh what a cruel world!

Photorun
Feb 26, 2004, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by bidge
What will the one non apple thing be????

HP iPod?

MacEyeDoc
Feb 26, 2004, 11:11 PM
"No, senior Apple officials said, you can not shake the Lucky Bag."


So this is the new Apple product being announced in Feb., the Lucky Bag?



You, and especially you, Steve Ballmer, cannot shake the Lucky Bag.

ITR 81
Feb 26, 2004, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by bidge
What will the one non apple thing be????

A MacWorld or MacAddict 1-yr sub.

Or Mac OSX book from Oreilly.

alfred
Feb 26, 2004, 11:46 PM
I guess it is not mentioned here that Apple Store, Ginza in Tokyo sold some 200 Lucky Bags in the new year season this year.

The lucky bag is a typical Japanese custom in its retail industry (esp. department stores). On January 1 or 2, when stores open for the first time in each year, they sell lucky bags. You cannot see the inside of lucky bags, but usually they are packed with many things, and are heavily discounted (at least by 50%). Most typically, the content of the bags varies from one to another.

Then, the Apple Store Ginza followed suit on January 2 this year. They sold 200 lucky bags at 27,000 yen (which is about USD250). Personally I bought one and the content was:
- 1 .Mac package
- 1 iSight
- 1 Keynote package
- 1 Bluetooth Wireless Mouse
- 1 Bluetooth adapter (from a third party)
- 1 ticket for one seminar at Apple Store Ginza
- 1 10% discount card

As I heard from other 5 or 6 people who bought the bags, most bags contained exactly the same things as mine, while, according to a Mac specialist, some bags included iPods.

I'd like to know what Apple is going to pack in the SF Lucky Bags!!

rikers_mailbox
Feb 26, 2004, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by Photorun
I wish this was a "no purchase necessary" from, say, NYC?!? I'd pony up $250 to see what's in the bag!!! (http://www.homestarrunner.com/whatsinthebag.html)

I don't know where you found that animation, but it is frickin' hilarious.

Cool-guy

SiliconAddict
Feb 27, 2004, 12:33 AM
Riiiiiight. I'm going to spend a quarter of a grand on a bunch of random products.
:rolleyes: Yah. American consumerism at its finest. There are people out there who would saw off their arm, or give blood, for $250 all the while Apple gives you the perfect opportunity to fritter away $250. As always everyone who feels opposed to such an idea can walk right past it, but just the idea alone seems somewhat repugnant. Then again all told the laptop Iím looking at from Apple would be about $4,000. (More then the 2 previous laptops Iíve owned combined.) So its not like Iím being all that thrifty. Iím guessing Apple is looking to hit a cord with those Porsche, Lexis, Mercedes drives out there where dropping a few bills (with those bills being Franklins.)

Noc
Feb 27, 2004, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by SiliconAddict
There are people out there who would saw off their arm, or give blood, for $250 all the while Apple gives you the perfect opportunity to fritter away $250.

Hell, I'd give blood for $20 - my heart makes it for free.

mdriftmeyer
Feb 27, 2004, 01:35 AM
I'd give them $250 for a license of WebObjects 5.2.2.

TimDaddy
Feb 27, 2004, 03:37 AM
$250 is a lot of money when you don't know what you are getting, but if it is really worth $600 then you can ebay the things you don't want. I'd probably do it, if I were there, with it being from Apple. One booth at a local flea market sells grab-bags ranging from $1-$25, but I won't even buy the cheapes one because I have no idea what kind of crap it may contain. But, this promotion sound fun and not at all risky.

Kagetenshi
Feb 27, 2004, 03:43 AM
Originally posted by Noc
Hell, I'd give blood for $20 - my heart makes it for free.

Really? Your heart makes blood? Funny, all my blood is made by my marrow...

~J

ZildjianKX
Feb 27, 2004, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by Kagetenshi
Really? Your heart makes blood? Funny, all my blood is made by my marrow...

~J


Hahaha :p

John61254
Feb 27, 2004, 03:56 AM
I've heard one of the items is a black turtleneck:p

JamesDPS
Feb 27, 2004, 04:08 AM
Dang.. I'm really tempted to drive up to SF for the weekend now. Sure, I'd get to see my g/f (she's in Lafayette), but that LUCKY BAG! How can you resist?!? Unless it turns out to be, say, $600 worth of G5 RAM, G5 not included... I like the idea of multiple copies of Appleworks, too :D

My guesses at the "non-Apple" product: digi cam? no, too many people already have it. T-shirt? good promotion, so maybe a possibility. A pepsi? How about Microsoft Office (sweet! j/k)? A copy of Finding Nemo? Seriously, probably a cool accessory for the (doubtlessly included) iPod Mini, probably by Belkin -- that's what I would put in it, but that's just me....

CmdrLaForge
Feb 27, 2004, 04:15 AM
I would get one. I expect an iPod mini inside !!!

rdowns
Feb 27, 2004, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by bidge
What will the one non apple thing be????

Napster gift card?
Same sex marriage license?

elliotay
Feb 27, 2004, 04:47 AM
I wonder how many "Lucky Bags" they have. Any thoughts? I'm planning on going. I hope they don't run out before I get one.

Eprom
Feb 27, 2004, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by bidge
What will the one non apple thing be????

A box of Kleenex for all of us who are waiting for the new G5's to appear.

ssnmx
Feb 27, 2004, 04:54 AM
Napster giftcard? LOL

My guess is:

* iPod mini
* .mac membership (do people actually buy it??) :confused:
* wireless mouse or keyboard
* Appleworks :(
* some accesory for the mini. Remote control, please.
* iTunes giftcard
* I hope not iLife, because everyone already has it... maybe the iSight... that'd be sweet
* I'm running out of ideas, but the Macworld membership sounds likely...
* Or maybe the non-Apple product would be the new Office, haha (I don't know if it was already released or when it will, but anyway...)

I wouldn't buy it, because I would just get stuff I don't need. The iSight would be the most interesting thing, but I really don't need one. If it were for free, though... :D

Any other ideas? :p

Kagetenshi
Feb 27, 2004, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by ssnmx

* .mac membership (do people actually buy it??) :confused:


Yes, people actually buy it, myself included. It's well worth it for many.

~J

hob
Feb 27, 2004, 05:05 AM
C'mon guys - I will chew off my little finger if there's an iPod mini in there - it's not gonna happen! I can't imagine they've got enough stock!!

You should all listen to Alfred - it'll probably be a bunch of useful, yet mildly unexciting products...

ssnmx
Feb 27, 2004, 05:13 AM
Ouch, Hob, that sounds painful... (although it made me laugh :D ) they don't have enough minis in stock, that is for sure... I've been looking for one like a maniac and the best I could do is march 15th... :( from the store in my university... but this is the store in San Fransisco, so they can't give a bunch of ****! (Or I hope they don't)

As for the .mac account... I got the 60 days for free and I haven't tried it at ll. Guess I can't miss what I haven't used. :p

hob
Feb 27, 2004, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by ssnmx
As for the .mac account... I got the 60 days for free and I haven't tried it at all. Guess I can't miss what I haven't used. :p

Guess I fell foul to that one - i DID try it free, then realised I couldn't live without it :'( I fell into the trap and paid the £60!!

Hob

ionas
Feb 27, 2004, 05:20 AM
could be virtual pc.

ssnmx
Feb 27, 2004, 05:37 AM
Check out the bag from Macminute... It looks like there's something big inside (at least, bigger than I expected...)
:eek:


link: http://www.osxfaq.com/apple_store_sf/index.ws

CmdrLaForge
Feb 27, 2004, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by Kagetenshi
Yes, people actually buy it, myself included. It's well worth it for many.

~J

Where is your homepage ?

Savage Henry
Feb 27, 2004, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by mvc
Nah, its just a clearance sale gimmick - lots of copies of Appleworks 4 and original iMac Hockey Puck mice ;)

Surely instead of "clearance sale gimmick" you meant to say "generously rewarding selection from Apple's abundantly rich pool of nostalgia".?

Chupa Chupa
Feb 27, 2004, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by hob
C'mon guys - I will chew off my little finger if there's an iPod mini in there - it's not gonna happen! I can't imagine they've got enough stock!!


That has to be one of the most ubsurd things I've read here. You are telling my you can't imagine that Apple can't come up with 200 iPod minis for a promotion that has been weeks in the making. Where did you go to B-School? If Apple wants to give away 200 minis, I assure you it can find the means to do so, and in a way that would not take from any retail store existing stock.

However, mystery bags are usually filled with overstock junke so it is more likely that a 10GB iPod would be in the bag, rather than a mini.

hob
Feb 27, 2004, 07:38 AM
no need to flame mate, i was pretty much making the same point as you!

Hob

sushi
Feb 27, 2004, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by AssassinOfGates
:( ) Holy **** thats a long line in Japan.
?????

Sushi

Sabbath
Feb 27, 2004, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by DTG
Here's hoping they do this for the launch of the Apple London Store, I'll be there for sure with ?£200? in hand!!

Only problem with the launch day in London is that there will be *so* many people from the continent there crashing the party!!

Hahah but the bags would cost £300 and contain $500 worth of products, so still being more expensive than just buying the products in the US.

For sure its got to have a mini in it though, a hot product that few people will have already. They should throw in one bag at random with a powerbook or something just to spice it up.

Damn I cant wait for the London Apple Store to open though, how cool that will be!

FlamDrag
Feb 27, 2004, 08:17 AM
According to this wired.com report (http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,62455,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2) not all of the bags will have minis.

This has little or nothing to do with America's (or rather Japan's) "rampant consumerism." It has everything to do with human's desire to gamble.

Mr. Anderson
Feb 27, 2004, 08:36 AM
Sounds great, and I'd buy it if I had an opportunity. But its going to make the lines forming up even worse. And if someone cuts (which will happen) madness will ensue.....

D

JtheLemur
Feb 27, 2004, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by mms
Even better... it could be a new neat gadget that Apple is debuting, and selling along with some cheap software. It seems logical, because if they include items that they have already had, there is a good chance that people already have them, especially since these are Mac fanatics that attend the opening of an Apple Store. It would be really disappointing for the people who buy the bag in anticipation and find that it's all items they already have.

I reallllllly hope you were being sarcastic. If not... *smack* :D

edStar
Feb 27, 2004, 09:02 AM
You know you should stop saying that there should be a mini ipod in there, because it might not be! Then you will all get disappointed, and then flame Apple. Just like when it turned out the ipod mini cost $249 and you all though it would cost $199 :)


And dear, Chupa Chupa, in defence of the poor member's opinion whom you have flamed; where did you learn your spelling and grammar?? A B-
School?

markoibook
Feb 27, 2004, 09:07 AM
Could it not be the case that they might throw in a 3G 10GB iPod, since the 15GB came into replace it??

PretendPCuser
Feb 27, 2004, 09:39 AM
....a box of lucky charms!

wowoah
Feb 27, 2004, 09:45 AM
I'm so getting one. Screw paying rent, Lucky Bag it is!

How early do you think you need to get there? The store opens at 10AM, anyone think 8AM is too early/late?

klaus
Feb 27, 2004, 10:01 AM
at 8 am..think you'll be facing a loooong line at that time :-)

good luck though, hehe

senjaz
Feb 27, 2004, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by carletonmusic
$250 is a lot, but if Apple can guarantee that the minimum retail value is $600 - it's probably a good deal. We are either going to very envious or laughing in pity.

Probably a good deal!?! What are you on? If the minimum retail value was $300 it would be a good deal. All depends on whether you're a risk taker and don't mind getting random stuff. The biggest problem I'd have with it is the high probability of half of the stuff being items I already own.

And $250 is not a lot of money. That is 135 pounds which many here can easly and regularly burn through in a weekend of partying and socialising.

Also anyone even contemplating going for this is going to be an Apple user, most of us paid a small premium for better machines*. If you spent on average $1500 on a computer from Apple then the $250 goody bag shouldn't seem too expensive.


* Edu discount helps lower the cost as does an active ADC membership, and if you can get one for free through accessible learning programs then bonus. But no-one said this offer is everyone's bag.

gregorypierce
Feb 27, 2004, 10:12 AM
THe mystery item is Mr. Burns Bobo bear. What you get is the mysterious head bag.... its chock full of heady goodness :D

(Simpson's Reference)

wPod
Feb 27, 2004, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Noc
Hell, I'd give blood for $20 - my heart makes it for free.

HOLY COW!!! that must be some sort of medical break through!!! ill help you find a med company that wants to study your blood producing heart if you give me 10% of the millions you will make letting people research your heart.

and also your blood is free? man i have to eat food to feed my bone marrow so it will produce blood for me. and unles im doing something wrong, i usually have to pay for food.

i dont mean to pick on you. i just have an intense fear of needles so any excuse i can find not to give the 'free' blood in me will work for me. and well, i dont think there is much money that could be given to convince me either. . . though a lucky bag with unknown surprises. . . . nah, it would get my $250 but no blood.

maybe a dual G5 with a 23" monitor and a video projector loaded with all the ram/hard drive/all the software i want and a nice set of input/output devices for iLife and iMovie (like mixing boards and video camers and a nice set of speaker) . . . that might get some blood

wPod
Feb 27, 2004, 10:45 AM
oh yeah. . . the lucky bag

i think there is an iPod mini in it
if not, then there is a mysterious new $250 product in it

then some software to fill the rest of the space

and the non-apple product will be an accessory for the iPod mini or er and accessory for the new mystery product

mrsebastian
Feb 27, 2004, 11:08 AM
just to make it interesting, what if this was apple's way of releasing say... the new powerbook g5 to one lucky winner! i know, i know, put your flame throwers down, but that would be a pretty cool marketing gimmick.

vpalvarez
Feb 27, 2004, 11:32 AM
More than likely it'll be 10GB ipods with a special ingraving relating to the SF opening, with some accessories and software. The ipod and ebgraving would be valued at $330, throw in the accessories maybe a dock ($50) and the new headphones ($50) and .mac ($100), keynote ($100)

With these itens the bag would already be valued at $630

Who knows??

Grimace
Feb 27, 2004, 11:49 AM
Wow - check out the SF Apple Store!!!

http://www.apple.com/retail/sanfrancisco/gallery.html

Mac Dummy
Feb 27, 2004, 11:53 AM
I tell y'all what would be cool is if Apple gave away a new 2ghz G5 in a random drawing. Everytime you purchased something from an Apple Store or Apple.com you would be entered to win. Just a thought. This $250 mystery bag business just isn't for me.

rizzomac
Feb 27, 2004, 12:11 PM
I just went by the new store here in SF, and four people are already camped out in line. Only 24 hours to go!

dmf
Feb 27, 2004, 12:42 PM
:)

windowsblowsass
Feb 27, 2004, 01:05 PM
its going to be a brown paper bag with a gift certificat or sdomething either that or a giant bag with an old imac(crt) in it and then the keyboard mouse and software;)

Kagetenshi
Feb 27, 2004, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by CmdrLaForge
Where is your homepage ?

http://homepage.mac.com/kagetenshi/.

I haven't really done anything with that aspect of .Mac yet, due to running two other sites and all, but I'll get to it eventually.

~J

DaBuzz
Feb 27, 2004, 01:21 PM
I am so there tomorrow AM to get one of those...I'll report on its contents!

dmf
Feb 27, 2004, 01:54 PM
6 People are now inline as of now 11:54am

rdowns
Feb 27, 2004, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by mrsebastian
just to make it interesting, what if this was apple's way of releasing say... the new powerbook g5 to one lucky winner! i know, i know, put your flame throwers down, but that would be a pretty cool marketing gimmick.

Oy, Apple will release what is probably their most important product to date and they'll announce it by giving one away to some schmoe who buys a lucky bag. Give me a break.

JtheLemur
Feb 27, 2004, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by wPod

i think there is an iPod mini in it
if not, then there is a mysterious new $250 product in it


Oh would you people just stop it already? :mad:

wdlove
Feb 27, 2004, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by carletonmusic
Wow - check out the SF Apple Store!!!

http://www.apple.com/retail/sanfrancisco/gallery.html

I just wish that Boston would get a Flag Ship Apple Store like that, I'm so jealous.

dmf, that is what I would call really loyal Mac fans. I can't imagine waiting in line for almost 24 hours. Not even sure that I would do if it if I was a lot younger.

My wife and I stood in line for almost 3 hours for the Panther opening. My reward was that I was #1 into the store.

Kagetenshi
Feb 27, 2004, 04:09 PM
Boston flagship store... that'd be nice...
Though the one in the Cambridge Side Galleria isn't bad, it's a nice little place.

~J

GloverCom
Feb 27, 2004, 04:12 PM
Since I walk past the store on my way to work every day I've been chronicling the store as it's being built with my camera on my phone:

http://applesf.textamerica.com

See ya in line tomorrow morning!

-- Jeff Glover
-- iChatters.com

DaBuzz
Feb 27, 2004, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by dmf
6 People are now inline as of now 11:54am

Man, that is hard-core...especially how busy that intersection is. I went by at lunch...a couple of them were all stocked up with potato chips, cookies, Coke,...lol

I couldn't even imagine asking my boss for the day off, much less telling my friends. "Gosh, guys, I'd love to go to dinner tonight, but I'm camping out in front of the Apple Store"...LOL

dmf
Feb 27, 2004, 05:13 PM
so what time are you all standing in line?
Im gonna pass by at dinner time and see how long the line is. I doubt ill wait in line if it gets too long by the AM.

GloverCom
Feb 27, 2004, 05:24 PM
I just walked over there and there are several people in line already.

Looks like I might have to get there even earlier than I wanted to!

Anyone willing to save a place for me, I'll have two chairs and a key to my building next door for bathroom breaks! :)

-- Jeff Glover
-- iChatters.com

coolbreeze
Feb 27, 2004, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by carletonmusic
Wow - check out the SF Apple Store!!!

http://www.apple.com/retail/sanfrancisco/gallery.html
Identical to SOHO.

EDIT: Well, not identical, but very similar. Cool design.

HasanDaddy
Feb 27, 2004, 06:00 PM
My sis was planning on waiting at around 8 AM and getting a lucky bag tomorrow

she just told me that, as of noon time today (Friday) the line was really long

I don't think she's getting a lucky bag anymore :(

johnnowak
Feb 27, 2004, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by coolbreeze
Identical to SOHO.

EDIT: Well, not identical, but very similar. Cool design.

Exactly what I was thinking.

aswitcher
Feb 27, 2004, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by ssnmx
Napster giftcard? LOL

My guess is:

* iPod mini
* .mac membership (do people actually buy it??) :confused:
* wireless mouse or keyboard
* Appleworks :(
* some accesory for the mini. Remote control, please.
* iTunes giftcard
* I hope not iLife, because everyone already has it... maybe the iSight... that'd be sweet
* I'm running out of ideas, but the Macworld membership sounds likely...
* Or maybe the non-Apple product would be the new Office, haha (I don't know if it was already released or when it will, but anyway...)

I wouldn't buy it, because I would just get stuff I don't need. The iSight would be the most interesting thing, but I really don't need one. If it were for free, though... :D

Any other ideas? :p

* Signed photo in frame of Steve Jobs on keyboard with garage band :p
* Special Limited edition 20 Anniversary Mac T-Shirt
* Next generation airport hub
* Old iPod stock :)
* Two button Apple BT Wireless Mouse with scroll wheel :eek:


:D

sockgap
Feb 27, 2004, 07:49 PM
The bag is clearly going to contain the same kind of stuff that was in the Tokyo Apple Store bags, and it will be stuff with a total cost of goods (to Apple) of less than $250.

For me, that means it's likely to hold a combination of things I already have (iLife, iTools membership, an iSight, Bluetooth adaptor, Panther) and things I don't have but don't want (Keynote, a useless one button wireless mouse, blank DVDs, training certificates).

I bet one or two bags out of the many will have an iPod, but the odds will suck.

FriarTuck
Feb 27, 2004, 08:16 PM
Bring me the head of Bill Gates in a Lucky Bag!


sorry

had to say it

oldschool
Feb 27, 2004, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by Chupa Chupa
That has to be one of the most ubsurd things I've read here. You are telling my you can't imagine that Apple can't come up with 200 iPod minis for a promotion that has been weeks in the making. Where did you go to B-School? If Apple wants to give away 200 minis, I assure you it can find the means to do so, and in a way that would not take from any retail store existing stock.

However, mystery bags are usually filled with overstock junke so it is more likely that a 10GB iPod would be in the bag, rather than a mini.

As Dilbert says:
You're mighty brave in cyberspace flame boy.

alset
Feb 27, 2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by HasanDaddy
My sis was planning on waiting at around 8 AM and getting a lucky bag tomorrow

she just told me that, as of noon time today (Friday) the line was really long

My plan was to show up around 3am. I slept all day so i could stay up tonight. I heard that a few people were already there, now this. I live in East Bay, so it's not convenient for me to check it out. Anyone been by? Maybe I should drive over and figure out what's going on.

Dan

HasanDaddy
Feb 27, 2004, 11:18 PM
if this bag is anything like the Japanese one, then this thing is gonna suck!

shemp9999
Feb 27, 2004, 11:39 PM
My plan was to show up around 3am. I slept all day so i could stay up tonight.

at least you'll be in front of all the people who sleep at night :D

i think i'll be riding by on my schwinn with my DV cam to film y'all...for rabid web capitalization and mucho bandwidth suckage a la ginza.

Gelfin
Feb 28, 2004, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by DaBuzz
Man, that is hard-core...especially how busy that intersection is. I went by at lunch...a couple of them were all stocked up with potato chips, cookies, Coke,...lol

Uh, yeah. I kind of expected campers, but not that early. I don't think you could pay me enough to sit at Grant & Market for 24 hours. It's usually trying enough just passing through. I'll be there, but it won't technically be "morning" anymore, that's for sure. I plan to be sleeping. This is also partially because it seems like a good idea to avoid the temptation to spend $250 on a grab bag that is bound to contain an unfortunate mix of stuff I already have and stuff I don't need.

If I were camped out there, I'd definitely put out a box labeled "PLEASE HELP -- NEED MONEY FOR G5 -- ANYTHING YOU CAN SPARE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE."

That corner should be more pleasant than previously, on the upside. The Sephora store always gagged me when I walked past, and then the MUNI stairwell would immediately gag me again, with a completely different smell. Assuming the new stairwell is even open yet, it won't have had time to gain that wonderful urine smell. I mean, unless that's where all the folks waiting in line decide to go.

I couldn't even imagine asking my boss for the day off, much less telling my friends. "Gosh, guys, I'd love to go to dinner tonight, but I'm camping out in front of the Apple Store"...LOL

A couple of my coworkers asked me if I'd be camping. No way. IMO there is nothing in the Universe important enough to camp on the sidewalk for. Not an Apple Store, not a concert, not a ball game, not an organ transplant, not Jesus Christ autographing copies of the Bible at Stacey's. Nothing.

'Specially tonight. It's chilly out there.

alset
Feb 28, 2004, 01:13 AM
Camping out with some cool people. We're all geeking it up. Woohoo!

Dan

edStar
Feb 28, 2004, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by HasanDaddy
if this bag is anything like the Japanese one, then this thing is gonna suck!

No one is forcing you to buy it. I personally think its a great and rather nifty idea.

AngryLawnGnome
Feb 28, 2004, 02:59 AM
I hate mysteries, and I hate bags. I don't quite know what to make of this.

andrewh
Feb 28, 2004, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by alset
Camping out with some cool people. We're all geeking it up. Woohoo!

Dan

Geek is the understatement of the year. Camping out to get into a store to buy products that you can already get at any other Apple store in the Bay area, or the Compusa one block away is utterly ridiculous. If they were launching new products on the same day I might understand, but even then it's pretty lame. And that gift bag? Come on. Anyone into their Mac's enough to stand in line already has most of the items in it, if not all of them. Other retailers have straight out giveaways, or drawings. Apple lets you buy a bag of discounted items, including poor selling software like Keynote. I love Apple as much as everyone else here, but they can do better than that.

dmf
Feb 28, 2004, 04:56 AM
If your not in line now, forgetaboutit. There were approx. 170 people in line at around 2AM Saturday morning.

nyx280
Feb 28, 2004, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by dmf
If your not in line now, forgetaboutit. There were approx. 170 people in line at around 2AM Saturday morning.

holy $%&... i was going to be there by 7am and i thought i'd be early. forget it! no bag for me.
thanks for the heads up. i can sleep in now.

alset
Feb 28, 2004, 05:41 AM
Thanks, andrewh - now I know how pathetic we all are. I must be waiting for products that I can already buy, or only for the bag... Not that I want to kick it with a couple hundred friendly people, or anything. Never mind that I have a chance to network and laugh with other people who are passionate about the Mac and related products or topics. It's not like I'm having a great time just being here. Yeah, I just wanted the bag and other products that I could have picked up at the Bay Street store.

I wish I would have consulted with you before coming out here, because you're right and I'm an idiot.

Dan

kugino
Feb 28, 2004, 05:55 AM
it's kinda cold here...can't sleep. my wife's hogging the sleeping bag.

alset
Feb 28, 2004, 06:00 AM
Originally posted by kugino
it's kinda cold here...can't sleep. my wife's hogging the sleeping bag.

kugino (and anyone else in the area), come say hello. I have a red balloon on the back of my chair, and I'm at the edge of the orange traffic cones (by Fossil, FIDM and United Colors of Benetton).

Dan

SUDO
Feb 28, 2004, 07:08 AM
I guess it's 5am in San Francisco now.
I hope you guys waiting in line survives the chilly and moist SF-morning!

Just to say hi, and to let you know that our eyes are watching you form the other side of this earth... sounds like you are having fun after all :D

kugino
Feb 28, 2004, 07:50 AM
little over four hours til we see the goodies! it's still cold...but starbucks just opened and we're all warming up on coffee and hot chocolate

legacyb4
Feb 28, 2004, 09:27 AM
170 people? That's barely a trickle compared to the Ginza opening... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by dmf
If your not in line now, forgetaboutit. There were approx. 170 people in line at around 2AM Saturday morning.

contempt
Feb 28, 2004, 09:29 AM
In this age of eBay, you'd be a fool not to buy this bag. Think of it as an investment!

summitwynds
Feb 28, 2004, 09:34 AM
If someone buys a bag and doesn't want it, I will buy it from you.

alset
Feb 28, 2004, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by summitwynds
If someone buys a bag and doesn't want it, I will buy it from you.

I will happily sell you my bag. The contents of the bag, however, I intend to keep.

Line is now well over 300. I wonder how many people at the end thought they would beat the crowd? Our status, btw, has been upgraded from 60-ish to 40-ish. Wooooooooha!

Dan

HasanDaddy
Feb 28, 2004, 09:47 AM
Alset -

you guys are HARDCORE man!!!!

What a great experience! Must be fun out there

MAC ON!!!!!

peteMG
Feb 28, 2004, 09:48 AM
Anyone there with an iSight?

Ciperl
Feb 28, 2004, 09:51 AM
That would be really cool, if someone in line had an isight. Or can anyone upload a quick photo of the line.

kingtj
Feb 28, 2004, 10:30 AM
The bag itself, of course! You think Apple has a bag manufacturing plant out there in Cupertino?

:)



Originally posted by bidge
What will the one non apple thing be????

kugino
Feb 28, 2004, 10:35 AM
check ifoapplestore.com for live isight updates of the line.

Grimace
Feb 28, 2004, 10:42 AM
There is probably going to be a lot more software in the bag than hardware. The "retail value" of iLife could be $199 or some crazy figure like Jobs had in his keynote, whereas the sale value is $49.

Apple //e
Feb 28, 2004, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by kingtj
The bag itself, of course! You think Apple has a bag manufacturing plant out there in Cupertino?

:)

its right between the powerbook factory and the ipod factory

wdlove
Feb 28, 2004, 11:01 AM
It is great reading all that excitement of those waiting in line for the store opening. It is now just one more hour to wait. I also hope that someone with iSight or a Digital camera will post pictures.

klaus
Feb 28, 2004, 11:20 AM
let's see who's the first one to post a message from within the store!
and please, no fake replies :)
and then, tell us what's in the bags

hehe

Fabrix2003
Feb 28, 2004, 12:25 PM
my god im all exited i got some guy to go into the line to wait for me, they aint got back to me yet, but im waiting, anyone know whats in them yet for sure
did anyone have an isight uplink, why dont they do things like that in uk london i dont think peopel over in uk take macs as seriosly as us fans do, we got a long way to go yet! :(

elo
Feb 28, 2004, 12:28 PM
The contents of the bags will necessarily be completely different from one to the next. That's part of the Japanese tradition, and that's exactly what makes it fun. If they were all the same, someone would post the contents (in this case, right from the store) and people would immediately decide whether or not to buy them simply on whether they wanted to get that particular stuff for that much money.

If Apple is faithful to the tradition (and I'm sure they will be), the contents should vary quite a lot. Some people will be disappointed and some people will get far more than they paid for. In Japan, it's not uncommon for the people who didn't get what they wanted to buy a *second* bag.

And contrary to one poster, at least some of the bags should contain products that cost Apple more than the cost of the bag. The rationale is partly explained above, but Apple also gets some promotional value from doing this.

For those planning to buy, keep in mind that you're buying for the fun of not knowing. If you have only $250 and you are there for an iPod mini, then spend your money on the iPod mini!!!

elo

PerMalum3
Feb 28, 2004, 12:34 PM
I bet the Apple Store employees will be taking something like "pre-orders" on the lucky bags. Then, when all of the lucky bags have been "pre-ordered," everyone who bought them will get theirs. This kind of sounds like something Apple would do, and this way every bag could hold the same content. As for the non-Apple item: a bottle of Pepsi.

HasanDaddy
Feb 28, 2004, 12:46 PM
I just got a call from my sis

I think the bags are all gone at this point

some had 10 gig iPods

the ones that didn't have iPods seemed to have Airport Base Stations

each one had a wireless keyboard and mouse

so far, it doesn't seem like any had an iPod Mini

Mord
Feb 28, 2004, 12:54 PM
it's been like an hour common post the contents.


If this happens in regent street I will be there in an odd costume (like darth vader or something. Sad I know) with a skater dressed as a cuban pimp and mabey a g5 powerbook if i feel like getting muged.

giving stuff like airport base stations is a good idea because then people will have to buy airport cards... crafty.

Chip NoVaMac
Feb 28, 2004, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by HasanDaddy
I just got a call from my sis

I think the bags are all gone at this point

some had 10 gig iPods

the ones that didn't have iPods seemed to have Airport Base Stations

each one had a wireless keyboard and mouse

so far, it doesn't seem like any had an iPod Mini

i would have been happy with either of those two...

HasanDaddy
Feb 28, 2004, 01:00 PM
Okay - got a call from my 'other' friend in line

he says that there are still could be many bags available - however, the line is still long

GET YOURS WHILE THEY LAST

(happy now, LEE????)

heheheh

Ali B
Feb 28, 2004, 01:01 PM
I think there will be also a poster in it of the apple 20 year birthday

ojibberish
Feb 28, 2004, 01:02 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2790920656

HasanDaddy
Feb 28, 2004, 01:04 PM
Okay!

as of 11 AM, my sis finally got inside the store

the Lucky Bags ARE GONE

the contents of the bag, were -

1. Keynote

2. iLife

3. Wireless Keyboard

4. Wireless Mouse

and then either an -

1. Airport Extreme Base Station

2. 10 gigger iPod

3. iPod Mini

and i think a couple more things --------- perhaps other people will share more details.....

klaus
Feb 28, 2004, 01:08 PM
that's neat!
and what's the non-apple thingy?

mainemike
Feb 28, 2004, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by ojibberish
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2790920656

Man, this guy doesn't make a LICK of sense. He waits 14 hours to get in to the new SF Apple store, buys a $250 "mystery bag" of Apple goodies, then puts it on Ebay with a weak "I can't use any of this stuff as I am a PC user".

Huh??

C'mon fella - just tell people you're hoping to double your investment and we'll think more of you in the process.
:cool:

klaus
Feb 28, 2004, 01:11 PM
my thoughts exactly, and even if I wasn't able to use anything of the stuff inside.. i don't think i could keep my hands off that mystery bag.. i'd be too anxious :D

Ali B
Feb 28, 2004, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by mainemike
Man, this guy doesn't make a LICK of sense. He waits 14 hours to get in to the new SF Apple store, buys a $250 "mystery bag" of Apple goodies, then puts it on Ebay with a weak "I can't use any of this stuff as I am a PC user".

Huh??

C'mon fella - just tell people you're hoping to double your investment and we'll think more of you in the process.
:cool:

Yep i agree this stuped head is doing it just for the money. Maybe if he had worked for 14hours maybe he earned equal:p

m4rc
Feb 28, 2004, 01:15 PM
Maybe he has opened it and taken out the main item, so he has his iPod or whatever, and is now after the profit. He DOESN"T say whats in it as he says it's unopened, can they be re-sealed?

If you buy it from him, he hasn't lied about the contents has he!

Marc

HasanDaddy
Feb 28, 2004, 01:18 PM
She didn't tell me what the non-Apple item was --- we'll have to wait to hear from someone else

andydg
Feb 28, 2004, 01:21 PM
This guy definitely has a screw loose. Must be the same person who claimed to have butchered that G5 into a low level windows gaming pc I read about a while back. eh?

Fabrix2003
Feb 28, 2004, 01:30 PM
still wondering what the non apple thing is? anyone got the ipod mini that would be top!.So i guess you purchase at the counter? then have a gander round the new store, how many floors? is airport free inside the store? even outside bummer! we dont get that royalty in uk! :( sux! :(

invaLPsion
Feb 28, 2004, 01:33 PM
Can anyone who bought a bag tell us exactly what they got inside?

m4rc
Feb 28, 2004, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Fabrix2003
still wondering what the non apple thing is? anyone got the ipod mini that would be top!.So i guess you purchase at the counter? then have a gander round the new store, how many floors? is airport free inside the store? even outside bummer! we dont get that royalty in uk! :( sux! :(

We DON'T HAVE an Apple Store in the UK yet! What are you complaining about, that Dixon's dosn't give you Airport Access, or that we don't have a store? We have one being built in Regents Street for later this year.

As for the Store, check the Apple site, it has all the info about the store, as does this site (http://www.ifoapplestore.com)

Marc

Fabrix2003
Feb 28, 2004, 02:00 PM
my point is we dont have many wireless access points in the north west and they have stores that do :( we dont have the quality of apple stores like usa :( and that needs to change in my opinion. good to hear about the one opening soon though.

natekendrick
Feb 28, 2004, 02:04 PM
Well everyone - I just got back home after spending 18 hours in line to get into the new Apple Store... and getting 2 Lucky Bags.

There seems to be 3 variants of the bags - all have the following:

- iLife
- Keynote
- .Mac subscription
- 10% Discount card
- Bluetooth USB adapter
- Wireless Mouse
- Wireless Keyboard

and both of my bags had:

- Airport Extreme (w/ modem and external ant. jack)

and others (again, unfortunately not mine) had
- An iPod Mini!!!

or

- An iPod 20GB

there could be more variations... such as a 40GB or something. The APB Extreme seemed to be the most frequent by far.

as I really wanted the iPod Mini and already have every single product in the bag - I am selling both to whoever wants them first.

photos here: http://homepage.mac.com/kendrick/

cost is $500 for each bag.

email me at kendrick@mac.com

fyi: Steve Jobs, Jonathan Ive, Mayor Gavin Newsom, Former Mayor Willie Brown were all in attendance... among others I am sure I did not personally recognize. The experience was awesome.

cheers!
-Nate

beatle888
Feb 28, 2004, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by mainemike
Man, this guy doesn't make a LICK of sense. He waits 14 hours to get in to the new SF Apple store, buys a $250 "mystery bag" of Apple goodies, then puts it on Ebay with a weak "I can't use any of this stuff as I am a PC user".

Huh??

C'mon fella - just tell people you're hoping to double your investment and we'll think more of you in the process.
:cool:

i dont think he's trying to hide the fact that he waited in line to make money off the bag. i hope he makes a good profit. someone that couldnt make it to the event will be able to buy one of the bags and still get a good deal, and he makes some extra money.:) no harm.


p.s. i just read the post above mine....very interesting that Jobs was there...pretty cool.

natekendrick
Feb 28, 2004, 02:08 PM
the bags are in no way sealed!!! The bag itself is a simple zippered black bag. Do not be fooled by his description, all he has to do is unzip the bag and he can easily tell if there is an iPod or not in there.

The products inside have standard packaging, each individually sealed, but not packaged together in any special way. Clearly it was hand assembled.

Everytime a person got an iPod there would be a massive cheer as they lifted it above their heads. Quite an exciting experience overall.

-Nate

aswitcher
Feb 28, 2004, 02:15 PM
Well if they do this in Australia I think I would have to go the bag...although they do appear keen to move Airports - slow seller? New revamp on the way?


Do we have any idea how many bags they sold?

HasanDaddy
Feb 28, 2004, 02:27 PM
$250 is a pretty good deal for all of that stuff

congrats on your purchase!

jimsowden
Feb 28, 2004, 02:29 PM
Anyone have a screename of one of the internet cafe imacs?

alamar
Feb 28, 2004, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by JamesDPS
Dang.. I'm really tempted to drive up to SF for the weekend now. Sure, I'd get to see my g/f (she's in Lafayette), but that LUCKY BAG! How can you resist?!? Unless it turns out to be, say, $600 worth of G5 RAM, G5 not included... I like the idea of multiple copies of Appleworks, too :D


What does apple consider 600 bucks worth of ram? 32 megs or so?

klaus
Feb 28, 2004, 02:30 PM
he bought 2 bags, and now sells them for $500 each.

Well, suppose he can sell them for $375 each, he can buy himself a brand new iPod Mini, like he was hoping for in the bags.

if he gets lucky, he'll even have some profit :)

congrats!

Chip NoVaMac
Feb 28, 2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by natekendrick
Well everyone - I just got back home after spending 18 hours in line to get into the new Apple Store... and getting 2 Lucky Bags.

There seems to be 3 variants of the bags - all have the following:

- iLife
- Keynote
- .Mac subscription
- 10% Discount card
- Bluetooth USB adapter
- Wireless Mouse
- Wireless Keyboard

and both of my bags had:

- Airport Extreme (w/ modem and external ant. jack)

and others (again, unfortunately not mine) had
- An iPod Mini!!!

or

- An iPod 20GB

there could be more variations... such as a 40GB or something. The APB Extreme seemed to be the most frequent by far.

as I really wanted the iPod Mini and already have every single product in the bag - I am selling both to whoever wants them first.

photos here: http://homepage.mac.com/kendrick/

cost is $500 for each bag.

email me at kendrick@mac.com

fyi: Steve Jobs, Jonathan Ive, Mayor Gavin Newsom, Former Mayor Willie Brown were all in attendance... among others I am sure I did not personally recognize. The experience was awesome.

cheers!
-Nate

If that is the case I need to take some time off when they open the bethesda store....

Grimace
Feb 28, 2004, 02:37 PM
wow. Greeeeeed is everywhere!! I would hope that people would want the products in the bag - maybe sell things you don't want, but go into it with good intentions. Then again, this is America...

aswitcher
Feb 28, 2004, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by carletonmusic
wow. Greeeeeed is everywhere!! I would hope that people would want the products in the bag - maybe sell things you don't want, but go into it with good intentions. Then again, this is America...

I think a limit of one per customer would be a good idea to stop profiteering.

Wonder how the person in line wanting a bag who just missed out feels about some of these activities...

alset
Feb 28, 2004, 02:46 PM
I have most of the items in the bag, so I'm selling mine as a whole. Can be found here:

eBay link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2790936373)

Dan

Dave the Great
Feb 28, 2004, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by natekendrick
... Mayor Gavin Newsom, ... were all in attendance... among others I am sure I did not personally recognize. The experience was awesome.

cheers!
-Nate

You mean they didn't put Gavin Newsom in Jail, yet?

No g5 PBs? :(

klaus
Feb 28, 2004, 02:53 PM
regarding to buying multiple bags at once, I don't think they allowed this to happen.. cause otherwise, some rich ass could buy them all, and sell them with a lot of profit..

the guy just wanted to buy a bag to have an iPod mini, since it's the same price, but he wasn't lucky with his first bag, so decided to buy a second one.. I don't think he stepped up to the counter saying "2 lucky bags please"..

if it was like that, than that's not the right thing to do (from the vendors view)

klaus

macmonster
Feb 29, 2004, 02:18 PM
We are supposed to have a store opening in Charlotte NC this month on the 12th. I have not checked to see if that is still on schedule but would love to see the bags there. But I bet this is only for the big splashy openings...of course I really have been wanting to get a Airport Extreme and move my Linksys box to use as a repeater.

The mini iPod would be fun but I have a 30GB already.

Mord
Feb 29, 2004, 03:06 PM
anyone know what percentage of bag's had ipod's in them cause if they do it at london me and my freind will get one each and i'll swap an ipod for somthing of his or he'll get one I already have oneand he wants one.

even if apple dosent do lucky bag's i'll be there

natekendrick
Feb 29, 2004, 03:33 PM
yeah - you were limited to 1 bag each. My girlfriend and I bought one each, and we also went with 2 others, neither of which got an iPod.

so we were all bummed, since we all wanted an iPod.

Any Apple fan worth his/her salt will have most every item in the Lucky Bag. You had to wait a minimum of 12 hours (we waited 16) to be the first 200 people in line to even get a bag. Then you had to plunk down $250 knowing you wouldn't use most the stuff in the bag.

So when you think about it - it was more marketing for Apple and less giving back to the fans. I fully expected there to be a higher ratio of iPods than there were. In fact, in about the 10th hour of waiting I made myself believe every bag had an iPod.

I guess I am still a little bitter... if only one of four of us had gotten an iPod then I think it would have been a little easier to take...

btw: I am selling the bag at more than $200 under its value. Remember, all products are sealed, brand new. And if there is a person out there that can use all (even the 10% off card) they could stand to save a substantial amount, more than a measly iPod Mini I am trying to get.

summitwynds
Feb 29, 2004, 03:37 PM
How long is the 10% card good for? Is there an expiration date?

natekendrick
Feb 29, 2004, 03:40 PM
How long is the 10% card good for? Is there an expiration date?

no expiration date - its a simple heavy plastic card w/ text "10 off"

for use only at Apple Retail Stores.

it is in a box that is titled "Apple Gift Card"

ojibberish
Feb 29, 2004, 03:48 PM
Yep i agree this stuped head is doing it just for the money. Maybe if he had worked for 14hours maybe he earned equal:p

He happens to be my brother-in-law, housemate, and co-worker: My wife and I are big apple fans (we both have apple-logo tattoos) and he joined us for the campout, and thought the bag would be a good investment. :)

Mord
Feb 29, 2004, 03:53 PM
[QUOTE=natekendrick]yeah - Any Apple fan worth his/her salt will have most every item in the Lucky Bag. You had to wait a minimum of 12 hours (we waited 16) to be the first 200 people in line to even get a bag. Then you had to plunk down $250 knowing you wouldn't use most the stuff in the bag. [QUOTE=natekendrick]

I have none of the stuff in those bag's.

Im worth my salt.

have I mentioned I cant wait for the regent street store

BillClinton
Feb 29, 2004, 04:04 PM
yeah - you were limited to 1 bag each. My girlfriend and I bought one each, and we also went with 2 others, neither of which got an iPod.

so we were all bummed, since we all wanted an iPod.

Any Apple fan worth his/her salt will have most every item in the Lucky Bag. You had to wait a minimum of 12 hours (we waited 16) to be the first 200 people in line to even get a bag. Then you had to plunk down $250 knowing you wouldn't use most the stuff in the bag.

So when you think about it - it was more marketing for Apple and less giving back to the fans. I fully expected there to be a higher ratio of iPods than there were. In fact, in about the 10th hour of waiting I made myself believe every bag had an iPod.

I guess I am still a little bitter... if only one of four of us had gotten an iPod then I think it would have been a little easier to take...

btw: I am selling the bag at more than $200 under its value. Remember, all products are sealed, brand new. And if there is a person out there that can use all (even the 10% off card) they could stand to save a substantial amount, more than a measly iPod Mini I am trying to get.


How much for the Base Station?

cubist
Feb 29, 2004, 04:08 PM
no expiration date - its a simple heavy plastic card w/ text "10 off"

for use only at Apple Retail Stores.

it is in a box that is titled "Apple Gift Card"

It can't be used at the online store? Because it would be cool to get an additional $189 off of one of those 1.8 G5's! :) But the local Apple Retail Store doesn't have those machines :(

zakurie
Feb 29, 2004, 04:38 PM
Like everyone else in line, I was hoping for an ipod mini in my Lucky Bag. And I own everything in the bag already. So, I am offering the Lucky Bag and everything that was in it, plus the grand opening t-shirt for $500. I will also sell things seperatly as well.

Keynote - $40
iLife - $40
.mac - $50
Bluetooth Adapter - $25
Wireless Mouse - $60
Wireless Keyboard - $60
Airport Extreme Base - $200
10% discount card - $50
T-shirt - $25
Lucky Bag (empty) - $25

elliotay
Feb 29, 2004, 05:01 PM
I too waited in line all night hoping to get an ipod in the lucky bag. But had no such luck. Seeing as I already have everything in the bag I'm selling it everything is in perfect condition. Nothing's even really been taken out of the bag, just moved around to see what was inside. I'm selling it all for $425. email me if you're interested elliot.chase@reed.edu

octomon
Feb 29, 2004, 05:08 PM
Well we did it. My wife & I got in line for the Apple Store SF grand opening...at 3:AM in the morning. We were 150th position in line, and as you remember the first 200 Apple fans to walk through the door were to receive the coveted Apple "Lucky" Bag, with contents promised to value at over $600.

We had a great time camping out. We brought a huge pad, blankets, pillows, sleeping bags, both dogs, and plenty of snacks to feed ourselves and 30 of our closest [new] friends, 90% of whom by the way were young male ...well...Apple geeks. The first thing I said to my new found friends upon waking in the morning was "You guys all looked much better under the flattering hue of darkness." They all liked me very much :) AND might I add watched with awe as I made love to my wife on that downtown city sidewalk.

As 10:AM approached, the excitement was buzzing in the air. The line now stretched around the block and then some. And as I sadly expected....various wives, girlfriends and other friends of certain scumbags began to assimilate into the line. I found this behavior to be the lowest of low, for every freshly showered and well-rested newbie who entered the line at the last minute, meant that some poor schmuck who had invested hours in anticipation, was now effectively screwed out of his well deserved right to claim the prize. Apple's unwillingness to give out numbers or in ANY way control the crowd was unforgiveable.
Anyway, over 500 Apple fans had now surrounded the store, most of whom had just come....to the best of my knowledge get a free t-shirt and look at Apple stuff? Willie Brown showed up, as well as our new Mayor Gavin Newsom, and once those front doors opened the crowd rushed in with all the enthusiasm and body crunching of a 1972 Led Zepplin concert. Except that the only 'music' heard was feigned enthusiatic cheering and hand-clapping by Apple Store employees.

Now is when the real excitement started. As we approached the counter to receive our Lucky Bag, my wife realized she had forgotten her ID, which we had just discovered was required to receive the goods. After momentarily panicking I got permission to run blocks away to our car and retrieve her wallet. Upon my return I found her just approaching the counter, and as it turns out also just in time to hear the dreaded announcement that they were down to 10 bags!...with 30 of us still waiting. My wife was chosen as one of the lucky 10. I was not. The crowd was livid. This was f*cked. All those hours invested, and now to come down to this.

After another flash of panic I remembered that bags were also available upstairs. So as the mob began beating aluminum PowerBooks in protest, I darted up to the 2nd level and found a few people left receiving their prizes. I stood there, still sweating from my recent jog to the car, hoping and praying I would make the cut. By this time my wife had joined me upstairs, lucky bag in hand, and as I presented myself at the counter it dawned on me....all the friendship and camaraderie found in the long night's wait had turned into every Apple-geek for himself, with some actually attempting to re-enter the line and double their fortune. I thought to myself "What if this had been a line for drinking water? For bread?" These slouching zit-faced geeks were really just greed-driven street punks who when given the opportunity would have killed each other over these things. And without a shred of guilt I whispered to my wife to give me her ID and hide her lucky bag under her jacket. I placed an order for two more bags and instructed her to meet me outside.

Moments later we found ourselves giddily and greedily skipping away from the Apple Store, 3 Lucky Bags in hand, quite satisfied with our new found fortune and even more satisfied that we handily screwed just one slouching, zit-faced street-punk out of his.

Shame on us? Shame on you Apple.

Mord
Feb 29, 2004, 05:20 PM
I made love to my wife on that downtown city sidewalk.
.

thats just wrong

jameskk
Feb 29, 2004, 06:05 PM
for those who attended.. did you get a chance to meet or get autographs from Steve or Jonathan?

thecow
Feb 29, 2004, 06:10 PM
To octomon:
What did you get in your 3 lucky bags?

wdlove
Feb 29, 2004, 06:16 PM
The "Lucky Apple Bag" looks like a great deal. Just wonder if this will ever be offered at a store that is currently opened? I can always pray for an Apple Flagship store here in the Boston area.

lemurs
Feb 29, 2004, 06:32 PM
And now for a rebuttal. Man, I don't even know where to start. How about the most obvious?

Apple's unwillingness to give out numbers or in ANY way control the crowd was unforgiveable.

Apple did a pretty good job of controlling the crowd and keeping those crowding the front from assimilating into the line. This is the 3rd store opening I've attended, and anyone else who's been to a few can tell you that Apple uses a lot of the same security (and construction) people over and over again, thereby ensuring that those who were at this opening were well experienced. In fact, the guy in charge of security (wearing the black blazer) was the head at the last opening I went to as well.

Security also checked up on the line a couple of times throughout the night to make sure everything stayed peaceful and secure.


Now is when the real excitement started. As we approached the counter to receive our Lucky Bag, my wife realized she had forgotten her ID, which we had just discovered was required to receive the goods.

IDs were not required to "receive the goods", although if you wanted to use a credit card, you had to show an ID, as is generally true of most retail establishments who want to cover their ass and protect yours. Many people bought the bags in a pure cash transaction, no ID involved.


After momentarily panicking I got permission to run blocks away to our car and retrieve her wallet.


Permission? From whom? Apple security? Highly doubtful. In fact, so doubtful, I'm going to say it's just untrue. How was she planning to purchase the bag at all without a wallet in the first place?



Upon my return I found her just approaching the counter, and as it turns out also just in time to hear the dreaded announcement that they were down to 10 bags!...with 30 of us still waiting. My wife was chosen as one of the lucky 10. I was not. The crowd was livid. This was f*cked. All those hours invested, and now to come down to this.


People were not chosen to get the bags. It all depended on what place in line you were. You were up front, you got a bag. You weren't? You didn't.


After another flash of panic I remembered that bags were also available upstairs. So as the mob began beating aluminum PowerBooks in protest, I darted up to the 2nd level and found a few people left receiving their prizes. I stood there, still sweating from my recent jog to the car, hoping and praying I would make the cut. By this time my wife had joined me upstairs, lucky bag in hand, [snip] And without a shred of guilt I whispered to my wife to give me her ID and hide her lucky bag under her jacket.


No way in hell you could hide a lucky bag under a jacket. And there would be no reason to have someone else's ID to get a lucky bag. It was one per person.

Shame on us? Shame on you Apple.

Shame on you for your bald-faced lies.

True, there could have been better line control in the store to get the bags, but overall, it was pretty peaceful, albeit agitated. My fiance and I got a bag to share. In it, we got:

Airport extreme base station
iLife
Keynote
.mac
bluetooth keyboard
bluetooth mouse
bluetooth adapter (the 3rd party product)
10% off Apple card
silver ipod mini

AFAIK, the bags had all the same stuff, except some had the ipod mini and some had a 15 GB ipod, while most had no ipod. I believe one fellow got a 40GB ipod. I don't recall any 10 GB ipods.

We didn't have any of it before we purchased the bag (tax-free, I might add!), since we have adored Apple for years, but seldom have much disposable cash for technology. The only "useless" thing in the bag was iLife, since I can't run it on my 4 year old clamshell iBook and when I get one than can run iLife, it will come with iLife (thanks 10% off card!).

We hung around the store for a while after we got our bag (we would've got one each, but we figured most had the same stuff in it, so why take a bag away from someone else?) and and chatted with a few folks. There was no riot and pretty much everyone who made an effort to be there early and really wanted a bag got one.

There was a line for the store's single bathroom when we left at about 11:30 a.m.

the_mole1314
Feb 29, 2004, 06:40 PM
Luckies, you got an iPod Mini. Tell us how you like it too! I hope Apple does this at all their stores some time. I would love to get one!

DaveTheGrey
Feb 29, 2004, 06:52 PM
Why I am on the other side of the world again?

true, true... :(

applekid
Feb 29, 2004, 07:45 PM
Just one question. Any of you get attacked by some PC fanboys? :D I mean come on, those PC users must've thought you guys were nuts! Personally, I would've done it too if I lived in CA, but since I didn't...

alset
Feb 29, 2004, 08:43 PM
Just one question. Any of you get attacked by some PC fanboys? :D I mean come on, those PC users must've thought you guys were nuts! Personally, I would've done it too if I lived in CA, but since I didn't...

Lots of drunken idiots driving by and yelling things like "IBM forever!" in the middle of the night, to which we agreed... After all, they make the chips in our Macs. Some people were really rude, others were very tasteful about expressing their interest in our passion.

Dan

natekendrick
Feb 29, 2004, 10:27 PM
I remember the "IBM forever" yell - strangely I assumed he was a Mac fan, all fans know that IBM is good for Apple, and has been that way since the G3. The AIM alliance.

I got mostly annoyed that we had to justify why we were in line to a lot of people. Most of us around just said "there is free stuff" after the 100th time asked. One lady next to us would patiently describe the lucky bag concept which a lot of people responded positively to. I admire her patience... cause I didn't have it =)

It struck me that no one walking by really understood that showing allegiance for something is okay... and in fact many people can't say they really love something they use every single day. That is why Apple is such a powerful company and their customer base are so devoted.

Who would do that for their cellphone carrier? or the car they drive? or the range they cook their meals on? or any product you use day in and day out.

alset
Mar 1, 2004, 12:41 AM
It struck me that no one walking by really understood that showing allegiance for something is okay... and in fact many people can't say they really love something they use every single day. That is why Apple is such a powerful company and their customer base are so devoted.

Who would do that for their cellphone carrier? or the car they drive? or the range they cook their meals on? or any product you use day in and day out.

True - you can't buy that kind of marketing. People lined up to buy copies of Windows at midnight, but how many PC users would camp out?

Dan

Datazoid
Mar 1, 2004, 01:34 AM
So, to begin: Yes, my wife and I camped out, and yes, we did, in the end, get Lucky Bags (neither of which had Mini's, by the way :( ). I showed up at about 5:45 pm Friday, and got the spot immediately behind the trash can (for those who were there). For the most part, it was relatively fun, everybody was in good spirits, or at least, mellow. A few people were kind enough to provide pizza at midnight, and donuts at around 5. Once morning came, it was a different matter, though. The Apple security guys came by at around 8AM saying that we would have to pack up our stuff by 9 (since all of us had sleeping bags, chairs, etc), but not 15 minutes later, told us that we had to "pack up and move forward", barking out commands such as "come on people, fill the 'phantom spaces'". At 9:30 we were informed by an Apple rep that, contrary to what we were expecting, the bags would be given out in a first-come first-served feeding frenzy, to the dismay of all. We were also told that if we were interested, we should make sure to "not climb the stairs", but to head towards the rear-right of the lower level. By 10:00 the crowd was so dense that it was practically impossible to see any of the proceedings (even though I was around within the first 25 people, and 6' 4", I didn't even know Steve Jobs was there until I got back home and on the computer!) Then we were marched into the store and, contrary to what we had been told, the ONLY way we were allowed to go was up the stairs (two rows of Apple employees were completely blocking the way to the counters). The clapping and music were fun UNTIL we turned the corner to see that a HUGE mass of people had filed in and were purchasing bags! We had no idea that the number of people had been limited, as nobody told us this, but it looked close to a mosh pit forming around the counters...all told, we had no idea whether or not our trip had been in vain until we finally got to the front. I must disagree with another poster: that crowd was not controlled at all! In fact, at one point, we were all literally crushed forward into each other into the counter, and after every purchase was made, people were literally fighting for the next spot! I'm not sure which San Francisco the "controlled crowd" was in, but it surely was not the one in California! Had they at least informed all of us who were in there at the time that we ALL would be getting lucky bags (if this was even the case), then there would have been less of a problem (I hope). Of course, the best situation would have been to hand out numbers, as we all thought they would do.

Unfortunately, I came out of it with a bad taste in my mouth: Yes, the bags were full of the promised "$600+" worth of products, however, it seemed mostly like an excess stock dump than anything. For example:

Airport Extreme: $250
iPod Mini: $250

I GUARANTEE that EVERYBODY would have walked out happy if we had gotten an iPod Mini! But an Airport? Come on...most of us who need one already have one! .Mac is fine, since a re-up is always nice, but do they really think that any of us who were in the front of that line DIDN'T already have iLife? And, I hate to say it, but Keynote is not the most useful app for the majority of customers (on the other hand, FCE, or even the Garageband Jam Pack would have been welcome). The Wireless Keyboard and Mouse are nice and all...but again, NONE of these are big sellers...quite on the contrary. And of course, a 10% off card...aka an invitation to shop more! (By the way, I heard many of these same complaints outside the store and in the BART station) Even though this stuff is worth more, I would rather have saved the 16 hours I lost out of my life, and purchased an iPod mini or 2 online for the same cost. Even a little variation in the bags (ie an iSight or something) would have been nice, but these were obviously strategically planned to move product that doesn't sell well. Other than the one mouse that I would have purchased for my wife's iBook (carpal tunnel problems, etc), I don't think I would have purchased any of this stuff off the shelf at this time. All told, I think I would have rather even put all the money ($498) towards a replacement for her aging 333MHz iMac. To put a more positive spin on it, the stuff IS all nice, just not stuff I would have really *wanted*---I know, gambling is always risky, but I wish there had been at least one thing in there to really get excited about.

I think with a "value" point of 600-1000 they could have done a MUCH better job of packaging products that customers would be EXCITED about, and in any case, the lack of variety is still what was the most irritating (especially since we both bought a bag, expecting different stuff). Also, the mayhem that ensued inside the store really ruined what started as a good experience...especially considering that we were all on relatively short fuses & not thinking too clearly due to lack of sleep, it would have been nice if it had all been organized and straightforward, rather than anarchic (although that is Apple's style, isn't it ;) ). Anyways, I have ranted too long...again, they did do what they promised, it just would have been nice to see them do a little more.

By the way, sorry to the guy I yelled at in the store, but you were crushing everybody, regardless of what you thought you were doing. And to those of you who think I am lying...I can take pictures of my lucky bags to at least prove I was there.

I am still trying to figure out what to do with the stuff in the bags...the longer I have it, the more tempted I am to open it up and use it (eg. those cords can be a little annoying every now and then; it WOULD be nice to extend my airport range (even though none of my computers support APE), Bluetooth would be nice on all of our computers)...but then I consider how much it actually costs vs its real value to me....and then how much it would cost....and then how NICE it would be to have a Mini...and then...this stuff can drive you nuts....any suggestions?

noxes
Mar 1, 2004, 01:39 AM
You mean to tell me you all lined up for 12+ hours, and it wasn't for Star Wars :p

aswitcher
Mar 1, 2004, 02:40 AM
...but then I consider how much it actually costs vs its real value to me....and then how much it would cost....and then how NICE it would be to have a Mini...and then...this stuff can drive you nuts....any suggestions?

Well that was enlightening. Mmm, I still think I would seriously considering queing but a lucky bag doesn't seem very lucky

alset
Mar 1, 2004, 04:14 AM
Sorry that so many people didn't have a blast or love the bag. True, security was bitchy and they should have given us numbers, but the bags are great. I don't need ANY of the things in mine and I'm bummed that I didn't get an iPod mini, but I'm selling it on eBay and making some money.

The gift card is an invitation to shop, but so what? It'll save you more money replacing your old Mac than you spent getting the bag. If you can't have fun in line without winning something spectacular in the bag, don't risk it. I would have been there either way and had fun. In fact, complaining about the bags reminds me of people complaining about iLife costing money. Deal with it. Apple didn't offer great promotions like this at most of the other Apple Stores, and they were by no means obligated to, just as nobody put a gun to your head and made you camp out.

Dan

lemurs
Mar 1, 2004, 08:23 AM
In fact, complaining about the bags reminds me of people complaining about iLife costing money. Deal with it. Apple didn't offer great promotions like this at most of the other Apple Stores, and they were by no means obligated to, just as nobody put a gun to your head and made you camp out.

That's pretty much my view as well. Think about it -- less than one in a million people in the country got a chance to get a lucky bag. I mean, even if you don't like it so much, the collectible value in a few years to an Apple fanatic is staggering.

And if someone was just there for the fukubukuro, a quick check would've shown that the lucky bags in Ginza also had pretty much the same things in them across the board.

I had a great time, the only issue was the crowd within the store "lining up" to get the bags, but I think I already mentioned that.

m4rc
Mar 1, 2004, 08:47 AM
They all liked me very much :) AND might I add watched with awe as I made love to my wife on that downtown city sidewalk.

I doubt it was 'awe'. I am not sure what is worse, that you (alledgedly) did it, or thought it would be a good thing to tell us about.

Marc

damieng
Mar 1, 2004, 10:19 AM
Seems a few people here are moaning about not getting an iPod mini.

If you wanted an iPod Mini so much why not save yourself $1 and buy one for $249!

Taking a gamble then moaning that you didn't win is just plain.... <fill in blank>

barbaloot
Mar 1, 2004, 10:33 AM
Not trying to be a bitch or anything. But you are the reason I didn't get one. You are the reason they say "one bag pre person"

Well everyone - I just got back home after spending 18 hours in line to get into the new Apple Store... and getting 2 Lucky Bags.

There seems to be 3 variants of the bags - all have the following:

- iLife
- Keynote
- .Mac subscription
- 10% Discount card
- Bluetooth USB adapter
- Wireless Mouse
- Wireless Keyboard

and both of my bags had:

- Airport Extreme (w/ modem and external ant. jack)

and others (again, unfortunately not mine) had
- An iPod Mini!!!

or

- An iPod 20GB

there could be more variations... such as a 40GB or something. The APB Extreme seemed to be the most frequent by far.

as I really wanted the iPod Mini and already have every single product in the bag - I am selling both to whoever wants them first.

photos here: http://homepage.mac.com/kendrick/

cost is $500 for each bag.

email me at kendrick@mac.com

fyi: Steve Jobs, Jonathan Ive, Mayor Gavin Newsom, Former Mayor Willie Brown were all in attendance... among others I am sure I did not personally recognize. The experience was awesome.

cheers!
-Nate

natekendrick
Mar 1, 2004, 11:47 AM
I was clear in the other email that my girlfriend and I both both a bag each. Since we both have most everything in the bags - we are selling the bags to recoup our money and time spent. It was one bag per person, stop trying to be bastards.

Yes, we could have bought an iPod mini - but... oh yeah - all the iPod mini's have been sold out! You can look on EBay, they go for $300.

boo hoo, I wasn't lucky and didn't get an iPod... you would do some minor complaining too if you waited 16 hours. Let me vent a bit ;)

alset
Mar 2, 2004, 01:39 AM
boo hoo, I wasn't lucky and didn't get an iPod... you would do some minor complaining too if you waited 16 hours.

I guess the extra two ours really made a huge difference, because even when I found that I didn't need ANY of the items in my bag, I was still happy. 14 hour wait.

Dan

theISHkid
Mar 2, 2004, 02:17 AM
Hey I know it's a long shot... but anyone that wants to give away some stuff can feel free to send it my way. I don't have ilife and I need keynote. Being a student sucks! I never have any money. I'll pay shipping if anyone is feeling generous. (Please don't laugh and make fun of me)

oingoboingo
Mar 2, 2004, 02:24 AM
Shame on us? Shame on you Apple.

An excellent troll. I was laughing the whole way through. Do you post on Slashdot too?

-hh
Mar 2, 2004, 10:18 AM
The bag contained:

<I>- iLife
- Keynote</I>

Already Owned.

<I>- .Mac subscription</I>

Don't want.

<I>- 10% Discount card</I>

Useful, but I already have my G5. I'll probably misplace it or find out that it expired before I'm ready for my next "Major Purchase" where its actually worth a few bucks.


<I>- Bluetooth USB adapter
- Wireless Mouse
- Wireless Keyboard</I>

Which I also don't want.

<I>
- Airport Extreme (w/ modem and external ant. jack)
- An iPod Mini!!!
- An iPod 20GB
</I>

For roughly $250, I could have bought any one of these...and gotten whichever one I wanted.


Overall, I generally expected Apple to provide grab-bags that are biased towards products that don't really cost them much in actual direct manufacturing costs (eg, software: Keynote, iLife, .Mac), or are hardware items that might not be selling all that great (probably the wireless stuff), plus some smattering of something hot (iPod Mini...but I'd not be surprised if these are provided in whatever's the least popular color :-)


-hh

wdlove
Mar 2, 2004, 10:51 AM
The bag contained:

<I>- iLife
- Keynote</I>

Already Owned.

<I>- .Mac subscription</I>

Don't want.

<I>- 10% Discount card</I>

Useful, but I already have my G5. I'll probably misplace it or find out that it expired before I'm ready for my next "Major Purchase" where its actually worth a few bucks.


<I>- Bluetooth USB adapter
- Wireless Mouse
- Wireless Keyboard</I>

Which I also don't want.

<I>
- Airport Extreme (w/ modem and external ant. jack)
- An iPod Mini!!!
- An iPod 20GB
</I>

For roughly $250, I could have bought any one of these...and gotten whichever one I wanted.

-hh

What is the time limit on the 10% discount card? You definitely should not allow these items to go to waste. I among many others would probably be interested.

kugino
Mar 2, 2004, 04:12 PM
What is the time limit on the 10% discount card? You definitely should not allow these items to go to waste. I among many others would probably be interested.

it doesn't list an expiration date. there is at least one of these on ebay (mine, but not a plug)...pretty useful if one is thinking about getting a new system.

-hh
Mar 3, 2004, 01:34 PM
What is the time limit on the 10% discount card? You definitely should not allow these items to go to waste. I among many others would probably be interested.

Sorry if I was obscure - - I didn't pick up a Bag.

The word on the 10% discount card is what I'll characterize as:

"No OBVIOUS expiration date".


The underlying point of my statement is that paying ~$250 or so for a bag of stuff I either already have or don't want means that in order to break even, I need to go spend $2500 to recoup the $250 I spent via the 10% discount card. But since I just spent $2500 for a G5 within the past 6 months, the odds that I'm going to make an equally large purchase in the near future is effectively zero.

The card's value to me is what its worth to me, not what it is theoretically worth to the ideal buyer who's about to drop a couple grand. Currently, the only thing I need right now is a $15 FW400 cable, so a 10% discount card is worth no more than $1.50 (although I do realize that said card really is an attempt to try to incentivize me to buy more than just that).

Its dangerous to generalize, but for the proverbial "Apple Faithful", between the "Year of the Laptop" and the G5, most of us probably have relatively fresh hardware, so we're not as likely to have a "Really BIG" purchase to maximize the potential value of a 10% card right now. As such, its one of the better times that Apple could offer one...I doubt that we'll see any of these cards exceed $200 on eBay, and I'd be surprized if they go above around, say, $150.


-hh

dex22
Mar 3, 2004, 01:55 PM
You could sell the unwanted items on eBay, recover two times your investment, and still keep half the stuff as "backups" or "spares"...

-hh
Mar 4, 2004, 09:59 AM
You could sell the unwanted items on eBay, recover two times your investment, and still keep half the stuff as "backups" or "spares"...

Unlikely, but if you consider your free time worth nothing, "Perhaps".

The thing is that you're never going to get 100% of MSRP. For example, a $99 copy of Keynote typically closes on eBay for $45...that's 50% of MSRP. Personally, if I can pay 10% more and get something from the OEM instead of via eBay, I'll usually pay the extra, as the potentially avoided hassles are worth it to me; YMMV.

FWIW, I already have too many "spares" of certain things - - anyone want a pair of 8500 AV's? ..or 4-5 ADB keyboards? Its worth less than its cost of shipping, but I still can't bear to throw it out, like a....mere...PC.


-hh

IndoSean
Apr 24, 2004, 01:10 AM
Anyone looking for a SF Store Grab bag? It's posted on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4126849438&category=171&sspagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1)

Act fast it ends Apr-28-04 22:47:12 PDT.

wdlove
Apr 24, 2004, 12:24 PM
I agree that it is historical. It would have more meaning to me if I was actually there and won the bag. Plan on saving my money for a Rev. B G5. :)