Time to roust the troops... [Archive]

Rower_CPU

Mar 22, 2004, 06:14 PM

We've been resting on our laurels folks but the time has come to crank up the machine again. We have several teams on our overtake list, but our output has been lagging lately. We've had some big contributors lose machines, and have seen the usual ebb and flow of people joining the team - we just happen to be in a trough right now.

So, how about we renew our efforts to push past SpeedGuide.net (19 days 'til overtake right now) a little sooner and offset the position change when SAGoons pass us (unless we can finally get over that 30k/day mark consistently and hold them off :D)?

I'm moving some machines back from other projects (sorry SETI) to help out. What can you do to help? :)

cjc343

Mar 22, 2004, 06:40 PM

I currently have a PB 1250 and a 702 mhz windoze box both working on Folding...... Fairly slowly.. I expect the Windows box to finish te first WU in a couple days, the PB should be finished tomorrow.

I know I am going to employ many more computers fairly soon, but I am not sure exactly when..... **YAWN** 79 frames to go on the PB........

WAY too many on the Beige POC that is sitting on my desk.....

wdlove

Mar 22, 2004, 09:42 PM

As far as I know I'm doing the best that I can Rower_CPU. I have 3 machines, 4 processors running. So far my wife is allowing 24/7. I ask a friend actually my pastor with a G5 dual, but due to security he had to decline. If there is anymore that I can do let me know.

twiztidn8v

Mar 22, 2004, 10:30 PM

I don't have anymore resources I can put together of my own, just yet... But I will try to recruit some on other forums that I frequent. It's the best I can do for now, but it's better than nothing!

I am also working on something I've been wanting to do for some time, and that's a website to help our new recruits set things up and whatnot. I'm working on a design now, and hopefully it will encourage our new team members to use the CLI and to make it easy to set up.

I'm open for any suggestions! ;)

Rower_CPU

Mar 22, 2004, 10:50 PM

twiztidn8v-
I'd love to see what you come up with for a design. We've played with the idea of a separate MR F@H site for stats/recruiting in the past but we never went through with it.

twiztidn8v

Mar 22, 2004, 11:47 PM

I'm not heavy into web design, but i can put together a basic site, and hopefully it will grow from there. If you would like to see the design I'm workig on just let me know [it'll be in jpg format, as I'm still working on the design part of it], and I can show you, it's nothing super impressive, but I think it'll get the job done.

I can do the design well enough, given I don't have alot of free time, but it's in the html, css and whatnot that I have very little knowledge. So what I start with will be basic html and maybe javascripts. I have some ideas for the site and what I would like to put on there, but more ideas are welcome!

Rower_CPU

Mar 22, 2004, 11:54 PM

Awesome. Just post it here, or PM me, or whatever. :)

Krizoitz

Mar 23, 2004, 12:28 AM

while I'm at home on break my machine is running 24/7, its only an 800mhz G4 iMac, but atleast its not a G3 :)

twiztidn8v

Mar 23, 2004, 12:34 AM

Way to go! Every little bit helps the cause and MacRumors as a team!

I have a 700 Mhz iMac G3 folding for me! It finishes the WU's well enough! Anything to contribute!

Are you home for Spring Break????

Fold on!

Dreadnought

Mar 23, 2004, 12:02 PM

Heee, leave my B&W out of it! It's now also supporting the team 24/7 since a couple of nights. Finally got the router configured correctly and now both machines (B&W 400 and dual 1.8 G5) are up and folding 24/7. I must say, my G5 is about ten times faster (only one proc) then my B&W. Guys what more can I hook up? Also have an LC doing nothing, hmmm, I see the possibilities!! :D Also will try to hack the network at work for one more try, folding is unable to go through the firewall (but I do got internet on it, so according to F@H it should be able to get and send WU's). Then I have also a P4 2.0 folding 24/7.

cjc343

Mar 23, 2004, 12:37 PM

I am new to folding.....

I have two machines folding right now, one of them is going to take about 4 1/2 more days to finish a WU.. but last night the nicer of the two, the apple PB, finished it's first WU. However, when I go to my personal statistics page, it says I have folded 0 WU's. I am certain that the stats have been updated since I sent the data.

Is this normal? How long should it take to show up?

Any help would be appreciated......

[edit: spelling]

Rower_CPU

Mar 23, 2004, 12:39 PM

Sometimes it takes a while for new users to show up on the stats pages, but you might also want to double-check the team # and username you entered for the configuration - just in case.

And thanks for joining the team. :)

Krizoitz

Mar 23, 2004, 12:52 PM

wdlove

Mar 23, 2004, 01:22 PM

Yep and bored out of my mind, at least my CPU is keeping busy

That is sad, I hope that you can find something fun to do while your CPU is occupied.

ExoticFish

Mar 23, 2004, 01:38 PM

i've got a Pentium IV 1.7, Athlon XP 2400+, and my 12" PB going, the first two almost 24/7 but the PB only when i'm not using it. i'm always trying to think of other machines i could use but they are hard to come by.

Krizoitz

Mar 23, 2004, 02:51 PM

That is sad, I hope that you can find something fun to do while your CPU is occupied.

Yeah, well what can you do. I gave up video games for lent, most of my friends here at home aren't on spring break, and I live in a very boring town. Its a good thing we have cable and I've got some books to read otherwise I'd be stark raving mad :-)

Dreadnought

Mar 23, 2004, 03:02 PM

Yeah, well what can you do. I gave up video games for lent, most of my friends here at home aren't on spring break, and I live in a very boring town. Its a good thing we have cable and I've got some books to read otherwise I'd be stark raving mad :-)

Well, leave your computer on for folding and go to Miami or something for the notorious spring break!

MrMacMan

Mar 23, 2004, 11:51 PM

What I want is a small .jpg or .gif file so that i can post THAT in my signature on other forums which allow images in their sig.

I think I might try to get my friends to fold (finally) where is that windows hidden application again?

I don't want them to need to configure it... where is that link... arg, please hook me with a windows f@h client (like the console one for mac)

twiztidn8v

Mar 24, 2004, 09:52 AM

If you use fire daemon you can run the cli as a service, and it works just like using a cronjob to autostart f@h...

http://www.firedaemon.com/

it's pretty straight forward...

cjc343

Mar 24, 2004, 12:03 PM

Here is the link.

http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/download.html

My results show up now!!!!

5 hours and my mac finishes its second WU....

3.6 days and my POC finishes its first WU......

pepeleuepe

Mar 24, 2004, 12:32 PM

I added another P4 to folding a couple weeks ago but my dual G4 has been on and off folding because I've been doing some audio recording lately. I'll keep looking for more processors though.

Also, setting up the F@H on a PC in the background is really easy with Fire Daemon as posted above. Took me about 10 minutes and I know nothing about Windows XP.

Falleron

Mar 25, 2004, 02:15 PM

Well, I am quite pleased with my output over the last few weeks.

Vlade

Mar 25, 2004, 03:13 PM

Well, I am quite pleased with my output over the last few weeks.

I know, its been hard to fend you off, we have been neck and neck for a while now. I have a 160 pointer coming in tomorrow though, in addition to my current production, so watch out!

britboy

Mar 25, 2004, 06:50 PM

Well, if a moderator demands more production.......I've added a P4 2.4. Be nice to see if that helps my stats at all :) It's not 24/7, but should be near enough to make just that little bit of a difference.

Every little helps :)

Rower_CPU

Mar 26, 2004, 05:36 PM

Well, if a moderator demands more production....

;)

Good to see you around and contributing. :)

Macmaniac

Mar 26, 2004, 06:22 PM

bousozoku

Mar 26, 2004, 06:50 PM

I just installed the screen saver on my 700mhz G3 iMac, it may take a few days to do a WU, but hopefully it will help a bit. Quick question does Folding remain running when the screen goes blank? The computer remains on so I assume the screen saver is still running even though the monitor is off.

If the system sleeps, basically, nothing runs. If it's only the monitor that is sleeping, it will run.

The screen saver is probably the worst version to run, but it's up to you. It really doesn't contribute a whole lot. You'll find that you need to run a 700 MHz G3 24/7 to see a decent accumulation of points.

Macmaniac

Mar 26, 2004, 07:50 PM

My problem is that the GUI app does not come on automatically, I don't have time in the morning to start it, and I'm not confident enough in my abilities to mess around in the terminal.

Falleron

Mar 27, 2004, 05:15 AM

I know, its been hard to fend you off, we have been neck and neck for a while now. I have a 160 pointer coming in tomorrow though, in addition to my current production, so watch out!

Well, in that case, I will add another 2 G5's!! :D

Dreadnought

Mar 27, 2004, 07:44 AM

That's the spirit guys! Keep on folding and keep on adding machines!

Macmaniac, welcome on board! But as said the screensaver is really slow. Get the foldingscript from mc68k and install that. you don't have to do anything in the terminal, but you can give commands in the terminal to look how far your WU is. You can also look how far your WU is in the FAHlog (just a textfile). So you really don't have to do anything in the terminal if you don't want to!

Vlade

Mar 27, 2004, 11:09 AM

Well, in that case, I will add another 2 G5's!! :D

Good! As soon as the next revision comes out (I thought it would have been 2 months ago) I will have another DP machine, and when they hit 3GHZ that will be 2 more DP machines... unfortunately that could be a while away.

Falleron

Mar 27, 2004, 11:44 AM

Good! As soon as the next revision comes out (I thought it would have been 2 months ago) I will have another DP machine, and when they hit 3GHZ that will be 2 more DP machines... unfortunately that could be a while away.
I am awaiting the 3Ghz G5's to replace my dual 1ghz g4. Plus, I still have another inactive 1ghz G4 processor at my disposal that may go into use if the need arises!! :D

I will look forward to watching your progess compared to myself!

frankzeg

Mar 27, 2004, 09:22 PM

I wish mc68K would spool up his resources and help us out! help Mr Wizard!!

bousozoku

Mar 27, 2004, 10:27 PM

I wish mc68K would spool up his resources and help us out! help Mr Wizard!!

He's busy with classes, I'm sure.

MrMacMan

Mar 27, 2004, 11:51 PM

He's busy with classes, I'm sure.

Hes not even in the top 15 producers anymore...

He was #1 for a whole loonng while...

Why did he soo many of his resources away?
:confused:

Rower_CPU

Mar 28, 2004, 12:08 AM

...
Why did he soo many of his resources away?
:confused:

That question has been answered many times already...

I took his Dells and he got my eMacs for RC5.

mmmdreg

Mar 28, 2004, 05:55 AM

I got quite a few computers. They were all on rc-5 but I've moved the first (2.8GHz P4) over to folding. A few 1GHz+ G4's are hanging around waiting to come. But that's going to wait for a script or 2 from someone that'll boost my interest in folding :D So by the end of next month I'll prolly get around to it :D Patience my dear friends.

Dreadnought

Mar 28, 2004, 02:44 PM

Plus, I still have another inactive 1ghz G4 processor at my disposal that may go into use if the need arises!! :D

I hate to say it, but I think the need is already here for a while! So please bring this machine up and folding! :p

MrMacMan

Mar 28, 2004, 08:13 PM

That question has been answered many times already...

I took his Dells and he got my eMacs for RC5.

Yeah okay... it wasn't a question.

I knew that he got the macs and that he has moved them to RC5... it was more of my disapointment in his choice...

He was kicking total ass... but now... :(

wdlove

Mar 28, 2004, 08:26 PM

That question has been answered many times already...

I took his Dells and he got my eMacs for RC5.

What is RC5 Rower? I'm among those being patient. I'm sure that everyone is doing there best. We just need more members. The item that we can't talk about, I think will be a huge boot in recruiting.

Rower_CPU

Mar 28, 2004, 08:58 PM

What is RC5 Rower?

http://www.distributed.net/rc5/

Dreadnought

Mar 29, 2004, 03:19 PM

What is RC5 Rower? I'm among those being patient. I'm sure that everyone is doing there best. We just need more members. The item that we can't talk about, I think will be a huge boot in recruiting.

Well, more members... Have you seen how many are inactive? We have got loads of members don't doing anything. Just produced one WU (or haven't even finished it) and then quit folding. If they just produced one WU per month each, then we would be back in the orange :D We don't need more members, we need new members that stick to folding!

wdlove

Mar 29, 2004, 04:51 PM

Well, more members... Have you seen how many are inactive? We have got loads of members don't doing anything. Just produced one WU (or haven't even finished it) and then quit folding. If they just produced one WU per month each, then we would be back in the orange :D We don't need more members, we need new members that stick to folding!

Sadly apathy, tends to run in human nature. If we have more than a third that are active then we are doing well. We just need to support and encourage the folding members that we have. I think that is the reason for this special section on "Distributed Computing." ;)

Krizoitz

Mar 29, 2004, 11:28 PM

I started using the terminal client and my numbers went way up, i didn't think the difference would be that dramatic

Macmaniac

Mar 30, 2004, 07:24 AM

The SaGoons, are getting awfully close, what is the plan?

Rower_CPU

Mar 30, 2004, 12:13 PM

The SaGoons, are getting awfully close, what is the plan?

Pretty simple: Add 15,000 point/day to our production. ;)

mc68k

Mar 30, 2004, 02:36 PM

I knew that he got the macs and that he has moved them to RC5... it was more of my disapointment in his choice...

He was kicking total ass... but now... :(well the reason is two fold...i had such a great lead over everyone on the team that i decided another mac team should get my resources. even the top producers now have like 1/2 a year or more to catch up to me cranking 24/7

also, i wanted to try a new project and see how far in the ranks i could move up...cause i peaked at like 23 overall for folding and there wasn't much room for upward movement.

at rc5 a mac is worth so much more than a PC. all my PCs minus the dell lab are still on F@H. im still moving up in the ranks too on rc5 thanks to the incredible ability to cruch units while not connected to the net...something folding can't ever hope to achieve easily at this point

i still check the folding stats like 10 times a day or more, and come out with scripts occasionally. in the future though i think the macs will come back to folding...since other countries cheat big time in RC5. whatver they are doing to cheat is obvious and detracts heavily from me wanting to give more than i currently do.

if you want, you can also look at mine and rower's stats overall as a sort of superuser sum, since well over 95% of our total has come from the same group of machines

MrMacMan

Mar 31, 2004, 11:50 PM

Nice to hear from you mc68k.

I guess I wasn't thinking of the user stats as much as you added a massive amount of production to the team itself.

Yeah rc5 is a great 'equal opportunity' project... I just don't really know that cracking passwords (encryption) was or is the best way to spend my CPU...

Please come back, anytime you post I learn much about the projects.

mc68k

Apr 1, 2004, 12:36 AM

Nice to hear from you mc68k.

Yeah rc5 is a great 'equal opportunity' project... I just don't really know that cracking passwords (encryption) was or is the best way to spend my CPU...

Please come back, anytime you post I learn much about the projects.thank you :)

yeah rc5 is more focused on the production and goal than the means. and it has a very finite goal that can be measured.

ha thanks. ive got so little time this semester for fun...i really love distributed computing and this teams spirit. i dont like the competition too much in this or anything else, cause i think it brings out certain innate things in ppl best left innate.

i must admist though, no one would really give so much of their time and thought into this project if it weren't for turning research into competition,. i really got to hand it to the researchers for that bit of cleverness.

Mustang Mac

Apr 1, 2004, 12:55 AM

i dont like the competition too much in this or anything else, cause i think it brings out certain innate things in ppl best left innate.

This is so true. But most of it depends on the outlook and inner strength of the individual. Take for instance this,

When did this become the new Team Mac Os X board?

What the hell team members, can you frikken post or what?

I'm not sure what you are trying to do... recruit our team members or put out the notion that Folding is for Mac... even though we have our own team...

Uhh...

Something best left innate. Can't we all just get along and realize that we are all on the same side? Progress must progress. Keep up the fold!

MrMacMan

Apr 1, 2004, 10:54 PM

thank you :)

yeah rc5 is more focused on the production and goal than the means. and it has a very finite goal that can be measured.

ha thanks. ive got so little time this semester for fun...i really love distributed computing and this teams spirit. i dont like the competition too much in this or anything else, cause i think it brings out certain innate things in ppl best left innate.

i must admist though, no one would really give so much of their time and thought into this project if it weren't for turning research into competition,. i really got to hand it to the researchers for that bit of cleverness.
Yup rc5 ends when you crack the encryption.

No one really would care if there wasn't competition which is the sad thing.

I choice folding over seti and also above rc5 because of what the project acually does.

That was how I made my decision.

wdlove

Apr 3, 2004, 04:27 PM

Yup rc5 ends when you crack the encryption.

No one really would care if there wasn't competition which is the sad thing.

I choice folding over seti and also above rc5 because of what the project actually does.

That was how I made my decision.

I agree whole heartedly with you MrMacman. We are benefiting humankind.

By the way what happened that we fell to #19! :(

MacFan25

Apr 3, 2004, 07:46 PM

By the way what happened that we fell to #19! :(

Sagoons stepped up their production over the last few weeks. But we shouldn't let it get us down... ;)

Fold on... :)

Edit: I just noticed we've had quite a few new members this week. Welcome to the team, and thanks for your contributions. :)

Rower_CPU

Apr 3, 2004, 08:45 PM

wdlove

Apr 3, 2004, 09:49 PM

Yeah, SAGoons passing us was a foregone conclusion with the 10+ k/day output difference.

On the bright side, we'll get back into 18th in a couple of weeks. :)

And, to echo MacFan25, welcome new folders!

I have faith in you Rower_CPU, that we will indeed return to our rightful #18 placement. You must have the strategy all figured out already. It just made me very sad to see that today.

I also want to extend a hearty welcome to our new folding members. Welcome aboard and keep folding. ;)

bousozoku

Apr 3, 2004, 11:06 PM

So many new people joining--that's great!

I know that I'm not producing as much since I've been playing more and I'm not coming close to the 600-700+ points per week.

I'm still surprised at the progress the team has made in the last two years.

bhertz

Apr 3, 2004, 11:51 PM

Good news:
Well I added another 3.2 P4 and a 2.8 P4.
Bad news:
I was also running a lab of 16 ibooks @ 500 Mhz each but had to kill the Folding because the ibooks were overheating. :(

cjc343

Apr 4, 2004, 12:10 AM

I just wanted to tell you all that I may still be a newbie at this but I have NO plans on stopping folding.... I hope to always have at least 2 processors running 24/7 and I have been trying to work out a deal where I can gain between 20 and 30 more (windoze) computers to fold for macrumors.

Thank you for recommending fire daemon for Win XP. The deal would involve running the program without "everyday" users knowing about it (partly so that they don't stop it) I like the feature where I can make it restart folding automatically if it quits....

[edit: clarification]

Vlade

Apr 4, 2004, 02:36 PM

I just added another 2.5 GHZ Pentium 4, It has a 70 point tinker now though :(.

Also, when we pass the next teem is there anyway to get front page exposure, that REALLY helps us every time we get it

Sparky's

Apr 5, 2004, 09:36 AM

Rower, I survived colon cancer 2 years ago (after having 6" of it removed) and enduring 4 months of intensive chemotherapy. Since then I have been clean but a week ago I was taken to the emergnecy room with abdominal pains and ended up having emergency surgery to remove my gallbladder 2 days later. I have been home now for a week recovering, and have been trying to learn what "folding" was all about.

Well.... I bacame the newest team member a few moments ago and am already working on protein p731_BBA5_md

I have a lowly G4-500 with 680mb RAM but I am going to leave it running 24/7 from now on. I feel good about it now.

(raising coffee mug) Here's to Folding....

Dreadnought

Apr 5, 2004, 11:28 AM

I have a lowly G4-500 with 680mb RAM but I am going to leave it running 24/7 from now on. I feel good about it now.

(raising coffee mug) Here's to Folding....

Sparky's, welcome on board, good to hear that you recovered! Because you have a slower/older machine and you are using the graphical interface, folding is going slower. The graphical interface uses pretty much processing power. So you could better get the script from mc68k or get the text console. They are not as fancy and don't let you actually see the proteines, but your folding will be almost twice as fast!

Sparky's

Apr 5, 2004, 12:23 PM

Sparky's, welcome on board, good to hear that you recovered! Because you have a slower/older machine and you are using the graphical interface, folding is going slower. The graphical interface uses pretty much processing power. So you could better get the script from mc68k or get the text console. They are not as fancy and don't let you actually see the proteines, but your folding will be almost twice as fast!

Thanks, I am really not familiar with anything but the graphical interface (I'm a Graphics Professional) but I will look into it. I have actually opened the terminal once, did my Chevy Chase impersonation and closed out of it. If being able to go twice as fast will help then I'm game.

I do have a question though.
I have 3 family members who use this Mac and as I am logged on and am the Administrator, how do I keep the folding happening while someone else logs on? can it be set up to run at the root level?

Sparky's

Apr 5, 2004, 12:39 PM

Rower_CPU

Apr 5, 2004, 01:24 PM

P.S. what happens when I want to switch over from graphical to terminal will I loose the processing done so far? or should I wait for the end of this routine then switch and start fresh?

I will download the apps and wait for verification.
Thanks, Sparky

Welcome to the team, Sparky! Glad to hear your survivor story - it really drives home what the project is all about. :)

I'll answer your question in the FAQ thread in a minute...

MrMacMan

Apr 6, 2004, 07:52 AM

Dreadnought

Apr 13, 2004, 04:11 PM

bousozoku

Apr 13, 2004, 07:43 PM

Sorry guys, hate to say it, but I'll be pulling my little renderfarm offline this weekend for two weeks.... I am going on holiday and shutting everything down... So, for the ones that have their heart set on passing me, here is your chance, but after those two weeks, I will be back! (and probably with more power then before!!). The rest of you, fold on!

How dare you have fun! :D

Didn't you just pass my idle name? I'll have to retake some ground, just to give you something more to do when you return. ;)

Sparky's

Apr 13, 2004, 07:43 PM

Krizoitz

Apr 13, 2004, 08:48 PM

433 points and counting! I'm about to break the 600 place mark!

Dreadnought

Apr 14, 2004, 02:34 PM

How dare you have fun! :D

Didn't you just pass my idle name? I'll have to retake some ground, just to give you something more to do when you return. ;)

I'll be enjoying myself very well in Greece, where it is now 28 degrees celsius, nice and warm. I'll be thinking about you guys when I am lying in the sun doing nothing! :p

And yes bousozoku, I did pass you a couple of days ago, it was like you where standing still :D. Well here is your chance and pass me! But I will be back and as said before probably with some more power (on my to add list: G5 1.6, P4 2.0, both running 24/7).

Keep on the folding!

Dreadnought

Apr 14, 2004, 02:37 PM

All is well, I am healing OK and have returned to work on a limited basis. The sad thing is I got hit with a Tinker Sunday and here on Tuesday I've got 65 out of 400 frames done :( but I'm running 24/7 so any week now ;)
I'm just glad to do my part.

Hope you recover quickly! Look at the bright side, at work you can add more folding machines :D. About your Tinker, you can delete it and hope that you get something else back, but I have tried it, but got the same WU Tinker back (5 times....).

benpatient

Apr 15, 2004, 11:32 AM

over 500 points this week so far...not too shabby for having two tinkers on tuesday...

Sparky's

Apr 15, 2004, 07:45 PM

I'm patient. And besides 70 points is nothing to sneeze at (that will double my count) the down side is, do I want to wait the calculated 16 days total to finish it!!! 11 more days from here
In the meantime I'm in the process of getting my 2 Macs at work going maybe in the next 2 weeks or so. My boss is keeping tight reins on our migration to OS X, so until then :(

MrMacMan

Apr 15, 2004, 09:05 PM

Your doing your best Sparky's --

Keep up that dedication.

wdlove

Apr 15, 2004, 09:28 PM

Your doing your best Sparky's --

Keep up that dedication.

Dedication is a great thing MrMacman. It's important that we support each other.

Sparky's

Apr 15, 2004, 09:36 PM

I just got one of my clients interested in Folding. I gave her the Stanford home page and she replied "WOW!!" I rebuilt her G4 1.2ghz machine not long ago and I know all she uses it for is writing in Word and e-mailing her "message to about a 1,000 people. I know she will be joining us soon. but seeing as I had to show her how to set tabs in Word, I'm gonna have to go over and set up folding for her ;) I have also spoke to one of my High School teachers who recently retired (after 42 years at the same school) from Marshall High School in Los Feliz CA. He was the head of the Science Dept. and is very interested in coming on board also.

Maybe I should just work as a Folding recruiter :D

Rower_CPU

Apr 15, 2004, 10:57 PM

Nice work, Sparky's!

The one-on-one approach definitely seems to pay off well - especially for someone with your experience and qualifications. :)

cjc343

Apr 21, 2004, 03:21 AM

There is a thread with banners for sigs or other purposes, here it is.... of course, you can't use them here, because we can't have pics in sigs, but if you are a member of another forum, they could come in handy....

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=68156