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crassusad44

Jun 17, 2002, 11:29 AM

When browsing appleinsider.com, I came over this in the rumors forum. The author is Dorsal M, and the posters over at appleinsider seems to give this guy a lot of credit. Could this be what we'll see in July?

"The PowerMac G4 as we know it will be retired. Well the architecture will at least. We will see changes to the system bus, processor and general layout. Motorola has been hard at work with the 130nm G4. It will scale nicely (at least 1.5GHz by the summer) and have improved bus features. Memory access will be stellar. And you'll see why. not only will DDR SDRAM make a debut but it will not connect to the processor iin a conventional manner. More to come. Cache will also be increased on the processor level. Twice what is seen now. You will see a collaboration with another hardware company, but this will not surprise some of you in the know."

edesignuk

Jun 17, 2002, 11:31 AM

OMG! Another MWNY Rumors thread! I don't know if I can take it :p
But lets face it, we can speculate until the cows come home, but we'll all just have to wait an see what Apple actually produces for us.

G5orbust

Jun 17, 2002, 05:05 PM

U should have posted this in one of the other 5,000,000,000,000 MWNY prediction threads. But, like Verbose said, we can only wait and see about MWNY.

edesignuk

Jun 17, 2002, 05:19 PM

Good thing is that it's not far away now :D finally we will see what Apple really have to show for all the hype that's been bouncing around the forums, lets hope that they live up to some of the rumors, pleeeeease!

King Cobra

Jun 17, 2002, 05:26 PM

I think that some people are starting to become basically so attached to this event that everyone has made their own little prediction of what is going to happen. I bet you guys a nickel (as my math teacher says) that some people feel that this is becoming a lottery to see who made the right possible predictions.

Now, here is rumor number 5,000,000,000,001:
I predict that the members (logged in or guests) will exceed 700, maybe 1000. I am just wondering (again) if the servers can take it.

MacAztec

Jun 17, 2002, 05:28 PM

YOu know what? THat hardware might be the MRAM i was talking about. It IS supposed to have direct connection to the processor

edesignuk

Jun 17, 2002, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by King Cobra

Now, here is rumor number 5,000,000,000,001:
I predict that the members (logged in or guests) will exceed 700, maybe 1000. I am just wondering (again) if the servers can take it.
Bloody lurkers :D They're gonna take up all the bandwidth and we're gonna end up getting errors when we try to post, search etc saying that the server is to busy, darn it! :p

G5orbust

Jun 17, 2002, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by verbose101
Good thing is that it's not far away now :D finally we will see what Apple really have to show for all the hype that's been bouncing around the forums, lets hope that they live up to some of the rumors, pleeeeease!

It would be quite a disapointment for our rumors not to come true. But, this isnt the last MW convention, SO DONT BE SAD IF THE G5 ISNT THERE!!! Thats just my warning to all those who are getting their hopes up.

PEACE
0< (turn ur head and ull see a peace sign or a tv with the two antenna. But who cares, both are good)

~Bust

edesignuk

Jun 17, 2002, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by G5orbust

It would be quite a disapointment for our rumors not to come true. But, this isnt the last MW convention, SO DONT BE SAD IF THE G5 ISNT THERE!!! Thats just my warning to all those who are getting their hopes up.

PEACE
0< (turn ur head and ull see a peace sign or a tv with the two antenna. But who cares, both are good)

~Bust
I would think now that most arn't expecting to see a G5.
Everyone expects DDR in the PowerMac along with around 1.4Ghz G4's, but I don't think anyone is expecting to see a G5, if they are then I feel sorry for them at MWNY when they are left dissapointed.
Whatever happens, it should be good!

G5orbust

Jun 17, 2002, 05:39 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by verbose101

Bloody lurkers :D They're gonna take up all the bandwidth and we're gonna end up getting errors when we try to post, search etc saying that the server is to busy, darn it! :p [/QUOTE

Then you'll finally see what I have to put up with at my school. Im a student and I know more than all the network guys. That network is sooo slow and doesnt work. The internet is so slow I wish that I could have a 14.4K modem .

Liamcow

Jun 17, 2002, 10:13 PM

I know everyone hates predictions (i do too) i just want to put my 2cents in. OK, I forsee [hopefully] colored iBooks, maybe G4 iBook, release of PodMate, maybe Some SERIOUS advances to the current G4 [not any G5s] and just a CrapLoad of fun expo!!!

G5orbust

Jun 17, 2002, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by Liamcow
I know everyone hates predictions (i do too) i just want to put my 2cents in. OK, I forsee [hopefully] colored iBooks, maybe G4 iBook, release of PodMate, maybe Some SERIOUS advances to the current G4 [not any G5s] and just a CrapLoad of fun expo!!!

Whats a podmate????:confused: Also y do u hate predictions?Thats what this site is all about man.

Also, arent we done with the colored iBooks? Infact, I think everyones done with the whole colored scene altogether. I personally prefer the graphite and that rele cool translucent white found on the iMac LCD over some fruit color or pattern (remember the flower power and dalmation that lasted for about 10 minutes). Also, what serious advances to the G4 to u foresee? Please elaborate or else its hard to validate ur point.

~Bust

firewire2001

Jun 17, 2002, 11:18 PM

i mentioned this in my other post, but i think that the imacs will have bluetooth support.

mmmdreg

Jun 18, 2002, 08:33 AM

heyhey..what exactly is the point of a rumors site if not to speculate and make predictions and discuss rumors?apart from all the other points of course :D

AmbitiousLemon

Jun 18, 2002, 09:00 AM

actually id would say this rumor unlike all the others actually has the ring of truth to it. id listen closely to this one if i were you.

Liamcow

Jun 18, 2002, 11:00 AM

1. I only hate MWNY predictions! That is what this thread is!

2. The PodMate is in the "Mysterious minijacks on the iPod And iBook" thread.

3. Ok, i don't really WANT new iBook colors, but i know a lot of people have been pushing for it, my brother thinks white is "GAY" that's why i said "[hopefully]" to end his complaining (I also agree that they won't last more than 10 minutes)

4. The thought i had about advances upon the G4 were maybe, Faster bus, faster processors, maybe dual 1.4 Gigs. you know, not really G5s just really souped up G4s. that would force the price down and get rid of the 800MHz model.

(5). I'm just thinking about what COULD happen, I'm not saying these changes WILL happen, isn't that what rumor sites are all about, retarded speculation and ungrounded thoughts that might lead to slightly more grounded ones. i'm just guessing based on my experience. Thanks!! :)

G5orbust

Jun 18, 2002, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Liamcow
1. I only hate MWNY predictions! That is what this thread is!

2. The PodMate is in the "Mysterious minijacks on the iPod And iBook" thread.

3. Ok, i don't really WANT new iBook colors, but i know a lot of people have been pushing for it, my brother thinks white is "GAY" that's why i said "[hopefully]" to end his complaining (I also agree that they won't last more than 10 minutes)

4. The thought i had about advances upon the G4 were maybe, Faster bus, faster processors, maybe dual 1.4 Gigs. you know, not really G5s just really souped up G4s. that would force the price down and get rid of the 800MHz model.

(5). I'm just thinking about what COULD happen, I'm not saying these changes WILL happen, isn't that what rumor sites are all about, retarded speculation and ungrounded thoughts that might lead to slightly more grounded ones. i'm just guessing based on my experience. Thanks!! :)

Ok, cool. Thanks for answering my post with such detail. I remember the podmate. It's the remote type attachment for the iPod. I dont think "a lot" of people want the fruits to come back and I think that most people on this site would agree with me. Also, the white is pretty much here to stay so your brother should get used to it or go to Windoze and their lame ass beige boxes. I agree with ur G4 paragraph. I also believe taht the new G4s will just be suoped up and that Apple will ditch the 800 in the tower, but keep it in the iMac. One last statement, SPECULATION IS NOT RETARDED!!!!!!

~Bust

Grokgod

Jun 19, 2002, 03:50 AM

I need the new IBook colors to come out!

My sweet teenage girlfriend wants a pink iBook and I refuse to lose !

Jobs must do this, so that I can make her happy!

There are a lot of others out there that want the same thing,
its not a hard thing to do, make colors for those that want it and the others can get the usual snow white.

Do it, jobs! now! or at MWNY

AmbitiousLemon

Jun 19, 2002, 03:52 AM

its not hard to do yourself you know. a lil acetone will take off the white and then just paint the inside pink and it will look pretty sharp.

Solipsys

Jun 19, 2002, 04:21 AM

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
actually id would say this rumor unlike all the others actually has the ring of truth to it. id listen closely to this one if i were you.

i'm with you on that... this sounds completely plausible. i've heard several times now that the g4 can scale to a limit of 1.5 ghz, and i bet we'll see something close to that... 1.4 probably.

and obviously the ddr from xserve is going to show up in the desktops. unfortunately there won't be any real surprises because the new desktops aren't going to automatically outperform apple's new server solution. we'll probably just see them catch up to the xserve specs across the board... maybe with firewire2 if we're lucky :)

AmbitiousLemon

Jun 19, 2002, 05:33 AM

you know that is something i ahd sort fo wondered about as well. the whole desktops out competing the xserves. moto is sampling chips at 1.2 1.4 and 1.5 ghz and recent rumors suggest they may be able to get quantity at 1.5 ghz. so will apple release a powermac that is so much better than the server? well cpu power isnt so much of an issue with servers so maybe, but it does seem odd.

as far as FW2, according to that rumor from a few days ago they are planning on sampling in july which means 1st quarter 2003 at the earliest, but hey apple is good at surprises.

what i woudl really like is every mac bundled with a monkey. its annoying having to type myself and having to change cds when im done burning one. also the swivel lcd on the imac is cool but it would be nice to have a monkey move it for me. with remote desktop i can do a lot while away, but with a monkey i could still switch cds and stuff while away, via remote monkey control. with a monkey at the computer 24/7 it would greatly increase productivity. [btw ive been awake for over 50 hours minus a 2 hour nap about 24 hours ago, but i still think this monkey feature is a great idea].

mmmdreg

Jun 19, 2002, 05:36 AM

so is the XServe going to be updated simultaneuously with the PowerMacs so that they are as powerful as possible?

decimal

Jun 19, 2002, 08:51 AM

While the rumors are ripe, I thought I might as well post this following link....

http://www.xs4all.nl/~octopus/Prijslijsten/Computers/Computermerken/MacFuture.pdf

Liamcow

Jun 19, 2002, 10:27 AM

I thought firewire 2 wasn't coming out for like 6 months...?

Grokgod

Jun 19, 2002, 12:01 PM

Decimal~

That link made me feel quesy!

Where did you find that thing, alot of work went into it and I found it
to be a needless effort. I thing that most people know this.

Who is this guy that distributes his rumors via PDF?

1.2 this newyork, very sad. I would have perferred a 1.4 for all the trouble that was put into making this PDF it deserved a 1.4!

iWalkMovies

Jun 19, 2002, 07:39 PM

old news is good news...

http://homepage.mac.com/iwalkmovies

b8rtm8nn

Jun 19, 2002, 07:55 PM

Ambi-Lemon is correct about this rumor, the G4 architecture supposedly will be processed at .13 micron, have direct access to memory, sit on RapidIO bus and (possibly) have HyperTransport to GPU.

They processor itself may not be spectacular but the bottlenecks to them will be nullified providing a big boost in real performance. Think of all the ground work ramping up to the G5 coming out now and the new chip arriving next year. It looks as MWNY will be impressive for the PowerMac.

King Cobra

Jun 19, 2002, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by iWalkMovies
http://homepage.mac.com/iwalkmovies

I don't think I have ever said this, but:

Unless you change your name, eye may either flame you, or will take two of these... :D

Liamcow

Jun 19, 2002, 08:32 PM

I DON'T GET THE WHOLE PILL THING, FLAMING EYES? WHY SHOULD THAT MEAN I TAKE 2 PDA RUMOR RELIEF PILLS?

King Cobra

Jun 19, 2002, 08:38 PM

Easy, Liamcow.

First of all, there is a very prominent member on board the forums, named eyelikeart. Many of us just shortcut his name to "eye".

Second, if you have noticed his signature, he does not want to hear anything more about a PDA rumor.

Third, eye has been known to deal out a few harsh comments to those who rumor about PDAs (here we call them flamewars, although they really aren't appropriate). So I made the comment for eye about the name iWalkMovies, since his name and his post involve something PDA-related, which may result in his flaming.

Lastly, I have made this joke earlier, that because of all the PDA rumor cr*p going about eye may be suffering from blinding lights, slight dizziness, and pain in the cranium. So I brought up a PDA rumor relief pill, made up, as a joke.

Liamcow

Jun 19, 2002, 08:46 PM

oooohhhhhh, i get it now! i never knew his name was eye, so that pulls the whole joke together! thanks a LOT!!

scott_meinzer

Jun 19, 2002, 08:59 PM

I am expecting the G5 i dont know speeds or anything but this is my own personal little solving, Apple has about updated almost all of the product line in the months before MWNY. So either we get a new iApp or 2 new digital Devices or a G5. Now we are all expecting suprises, would you not be complete suprised if steve came out with the G5? No one thinks were gonna get it and thats why its a suprise and thats why i think we will get the G5.

Just My 2 cents (Flame All U WANT!)
/Scott Meinzer

ericb88

Jun 19, 2002, 09:27 PM

that steve will give us somthin in the powermacs that will suprise us all. Maybe nothing, that would suprise us right?

King Cobra

Jun 19, 2002, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by ericb88
...steve will give us somthin in the powermacs that will suprise us all. Maybe nothing, that would suprise us right?

All right, wiseguy. If nothing is inside something, and that something is a PowerMac, is it a PowerMac if nothing is inside?

scott, I wouldn't flame you, but I would criticize this statement: "So either we get a new iApp or 2 new digital Devices or a G5." You are saying that you most likely know that either one of the three is coming out. And my argument against it is that AFAIK there has been no real evidence or proof that either of these will debut at New York.

crassusad44

Jun 20, 2002, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by G5orbust
U should have posted this in one of the other 5,000,000,000,000 MWNY prediction threads. But, like Verbose said, we can only wait and see about MWNY.

Hmmmm. No! If it was another G5 rumor, I would flame myself for posting it. read the rumor again, then comment. And remember. This is a RUMOR site. BTW, thanks to AmbitiousLemon, b8rtm8nn and MacAztec for seeing the value of this rumor. I posted it, because it's not far fetched, and the appleinsider.com folks gave the source much credit.

If this rumor has anything to do with the truth, we'll see a rockin G4 this summer. Maybe I'll retire my DP800...

Ouroboros

Jun 21, 2002, 03:43 AM

Hmm... apparently the Firewire consortium leaked out that Firewire 2 "will be seen at Macworld this July" -- this looks good to all those people worrying about a true new motherboard vs. a "stop-gap" one. Looks like Firewire 2 will make it on the motherboard. Here's a link to a CNET article:

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-937983.html?tag=cd_mh

So we'll see. But the general gripes in the grapevine HERE was that up till now we weren't truly expecting this were we? So maybe the towers will be more badass in other ways too. Cross thy fingers...

G5orbust

Jun 23, 2002, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Ouroboros
Hmm... apparently the Firewire consortium leaked out that Firewire 2 "will be seen at Macworld this July" -- this looks good to all those people worrying about a true new motherboard vs. a "stop-gap" one. Looks like Firewire 2 will make it on the motherboard. Here's a link to a CNET article:

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-937983.html?tag=cd_mh

So we'll see. But the general gripes in the grapevine HERE was that up till now we weren't truly expecting this were we? So maybe the towers will be more badass in other ways too. Cross thy fingers...

God taht would be cool. But lame for me, i just bought my G4 and its must not the same in a PCI slot. Firewire 2 is IEEE 1394B for all those who like formal code names for things. It has a believed max speeed of 100MB/s and 60MB/s sustained transfer speed (reg firewire i think has like 30MB/s sustained). Just for comparison, the second generation USB only goes at 60MB/s (480 Mb/s) maximum. I guess firwire 2 will blow everytihng out of the water just like its older brother, firewire, did before!

britboy

Jun 23, 2002, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon

what i woudl really like is every mac bundled with a monkey. its annoying having to type myself and having to change cds when im done burning one. also the swivel lcd on the imac is cool but it would be nice to have a monkey move it for me. with remote desktop i can do a lot while away, but with a monkey i could still switch cds and stuff while away, via remote monkey control. with a monkey at the computer 24/7 it would greatly increase productivity.

It's a couple of days late, i know, but that is the funniest prediction i've ever seen :D :D

On the subject of the original post, that does actually sound plausable. Apple have had enough time now to develop something more radical than a mere standard DDR-266 bus. *Perhaps* M-RAM (as macaztek suggested)?

boobers

Jun 23, 2002, 06:30 PM

is MRAM magnetic ram, correct? If so MRAM would be great in any device as it has protected memory. You can shut a device off and still retain the memory. Very cool rumor.
boobers

Macmaniac

Jun 23, 2002, 08:38 PM

I look forward to being the first through the door when MWNY opens to the public, I can't afford Keynote Passes. I do hope to do a video which I will post with the highlights of MWNY. I hope the 1.4ghz rumors are true! Come one Steve show us the future!
(crosses fingers)firewire 2