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alphatectz
Apr 23, 2009, 12:15 AM
ok I jailbroke my 3g again and guess what at first everything was great theny iphone started to lag, first was sbssettings problems
with opening settings from the dock takes about 4 seconds to open or it just get stuck and I have to reopen it. Then the keyboard then clippy then auto correct, then icons start to dim(even of I didn't select an app) what about the stock SMS it takes up go 3-5 seconds to open.
I only installed about 4 3rd party apps. WTF!!!! I hate this. I think I'm just goi go to restore and just wait until the full 3.0fw comes out unless someone has a better solution?????



DannyBres
Apr 23, 2009, 03:14 AM
what were the 3rd party apps u installed?

McKnight
Apr 23, 2009, 03:27 AM
The quality of code isn't the same, so jailbroken stuff runs slower, that's the nature of the game.

alphatectz
Apr 23, 2009, 06:23 AM
what were the 3rd party apps u installed?

Let's see, I have status notifier, iblack list, winterboard (which I only use with transparent dock) extended preffences (which I never use on winter board) sbssettings, clippy and cyrecorder (which I never use) My iPhone never use to be so laggy after a jailbreak now it's just sucks.

alphatectz
Apr 23, 2009, 06:25 AM
The quality of code isn't the same, so jailbroken stuff runs slower, that's the nature of the game.

that's not entirely true.

fuz10n
Apr 23, 2009, 06:45 AM
i have a jailbroken iphone 3G, and have also had bad lag experiences with winterboard and sbsettings. I re-jailbroke and manually installed my own dock png file with dock reflections i made on my own in Gimp and 5 icon dock, and it's snappy as a non-jailbroken phone.

so quality of code or not, take it from this user who has tried both ways and look into just picking a theme you really like and will stick with and manually install it without winterboard. (It takes some research and time, but you will avoid those lag issues). And stay away from sbsettings and just use boss preferences.

alphatectz
Apr 23, 2009, 06:55 AM
i have a jailbroken iphone 3G, and have also had bad lag experiences with winterboard and sbsettings. I re-jailbroke and manually installed my own dock png file with dock reflections i made on my own in Gimp and 5 icon dock, and it's snappy as a non-jailbroken phone.

so quality of code or not, take it from this user who has tried both ways and look into just picking a theme you really like and will stick with and manually install it without winterboard. (It takes some research and time, but you will avoid those lag issues). And stay away from sbsettings and just use boss preferences.
So let me get this right, you no longer have your iPhone jailbroken, but you managed to have a transparent dock and reflect on your iPhone? An you do a FCSB too if so pass that file over and let me know what you did (well how you manually did everything)

fuz10n
Apr 23, 2009, 09:18 AM
So let me get this right, you no longer have your iPhone jailbroken, but you managed to have a transparent dock and reflect on your iPhone? An you do a FCSB too if so pass that file over and let me know what you did (well how you manually did everything)

It is jailbroken, but I only installed cydia, ssh, 5 icon dock, and boss preferences.

To manually apply a winterboard theme without winterboard, you have to go through each app you have installed and replace its icon with the icon of your choice via SSH. For appstore apps, they are in a different place than the cydia apps. (check out http://www.modmyi.com/forums/skinning-themes-discussion/253961-changing-appstore-installed-app-icons-look-inside.html) For the dock, there is a png file: /System/Library/coreservices/springboard.app/SBDockBG.png, that you can replace with your own dock png.

You cannot apply your own background or other UI components without winterboard. You can still replace sounds, though.

The reason winterboard and sbsettings lags the phone so hard is because they both utilize lots of (very precious) iphone memory. When I used winterboard and sbsettings, I could barely play games without them crashing, even after using apps like freememory to clear it out beforehand. Now everything runs silky smooth (well, as much as a non-JB iphone anyway) and games never crash.

Here's a thread in these forums on this topic: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=590598

Kaushal
Apr 23, 2009, 09:51 AM
even i had same experience

i jailbroke my 3G and noticed a lag and the phone was noticably slow.

finally restored the firmware to un-jailbreak it & i am happy with a fast iphone :D

alphatectz
Apr 23, 2009, 09:51 AM
It is jailbroken, but I only installed cydia, ssh, 5 icon dock, and boss preferences.

To manually apply a winterboard theme without winterboard, you have to go through each app you have installed and replace its icon with the icon of your choice via SSH. For appstore apps, they are in a different place than the cydia apps. (check out http://www.modmyi.com/forums/skinning-themes-discussion/253961-changing-appstore-installed-app-icons-look-inside.html) For the dock, there is a png file: /System/Library/coreservices/springboard.app/SBDockBG.png, that you can replace with your own dock png.

You cannot apply your own background or other UI components without winterboard. You can still replace sounds, though.

The reason winterboard and sbsettings lags the phone so hard is because they both utilize lots of (very precious) iphone memory. When I used winterboard and sbsettings, I could barely play games without them crashing, even after using apps like freememory to clear it out beforehand. Now everything runs silky smooth (well, as much as a non-JB iphone anyway) and games never crash.

Here's a thread in these forums on this topic: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=590598

Well thank you, this will help me a lot. One thing, im not Familiar with sshing, how would I start off (I have a laptop running vista)

alphatectz
Apr 23, 2009, 09:59 AM
even i had same experience

i jailbroke my 3G and noticed a lag and the phone was noticably slow.

finally restored the firmware to un-jailbreak it & i am happy with a fast iphone :D

kill the LAG!!!
can't wait until 3.0 comes out, i dont even care for the new iphone (well just a little) but damn 3.0 hurry up!!!!!!!!!!

Tallest Skil
Apr 23, 2009, 10:01 AM
If it is lagging, you did it wrong. Redo the jailbreak.

alphatectz
Apr 23, 2009, 10:14 AM
If it is lagging, you did it wrong. Redo the jailbreak.

oh it you once again, (let me stop)
well how the hell do you mess up a jailbreak?
i know u get errors and you have to redo the whole process of jailbreaking you phone but once you jailbreak your set but what do you mean i jailbroke my phone wrong?

jake921660
Apr 23, 2009, 10:18 AM
Let's see, I have... winterboard

Restore, redo the jailbreak and dont install winterboard and lag will greatly decrease.

alphatectz
Apr 23, 2009, 10:27 AM
Restore, redo the jailbreak and dont install winterboard and lag will greatly decrease.

just for that i'll uninstall witner board.
i dont care about themes and so on i just wanted the transparent dock

jav6454
Apr 23, 2009, 12:21 PM
Of coarse its going to lag. Something not approved by Apple, hello? Also, mine is responsive, retry your jailbreak.

ProTip: Use Pwnage not quickpwn.

TJRiver
Apr 23, 2009, 12:47 PM
You took the stock OS, screwed with it and are now complaining because you don't like the results.......

Give me a break.:rolleyes:

Jesus says: "Leave the Jesus phone alone!":apple:

alphatectz
Apr 23, 2009, 01:00 PM
Of coarse its going to lag. Something not approved by Apple, hello? Also, mine is responsive, retry your jailbreak.

ProTip: Use Pwnage not quickpwn.

I used both same damn thing.

alphatectz
Apr 23, 2009, 01:10 PM
You took the stock OS, screwed with it and are now complaining because you don't like the results.......

Give me a break.:rolleyes:

Jesus says: "Leave the Jesus phone alone!":apple:

Hmmmmm I feel hatered....
This isn't a church ceremony so leave it for you Sunday school class.

PartisanEntity
Apr 23, 2009, 01:14 PM
As mentioned before, stay away from winterboard, sbsettings and perhaps even bossprefs and you should not see any noticeable lag.

I recently re-jailbroke my phone and have not installed the above mentioned and noticed that the lag is gone.

fuz10n
Apr 23, 2009, 01:33 PM
Well thank you, this will help me a lot. One thing, im not Familiar with sshing, how would I start off (I have a laptop running vista)

1. download filezilla (http://filezilla-project.org)
2. download openssh using cydia and restart the phone
3. make sure your iphone is on the same wireless network as your pc. If you do not have a wireless network, skip to bottom of page.
4. find out your iphone's IP Address
5. in filezilla, in the quick connect box, use the ip address you found in step 3 as the hostname, root as the username, alpine as the password, and 22 as the port
6. you're now ssh'd into the iphone

You can also use utilities that give you ssh capability (as in, root access to the file system) without having a wireless network. (iPhone Browser is a good one: http://code.google.com/p/iphonebrowser/)

alphatectz
Apr 23, 2009, 02:12 PM
1. download filezilla (http://filezilla-project.org)
2. download openssh using cydia and restart the phone
3. make sure your iphone is on the same wireless network as your pc. If you do not have a wireless network, skip to bottom of page.
4. find out your iphone's IP Address
5. in filezilla, in the quick connect box, use the ip address you found in step 3 as the hostname, root as the username, alpine as the password, and 22 as the port
6. you're now ssh'd into the iphone

You can also use utilities that give you ssh capability (as in, root access to the file system) without having a wireless network. (iPhone Browser is a good one: http://code.google.com/p/iphonebrowser/)

Thnx

alphatectz
Apr 23, 2009, 06:59 PM
and i still have a lag with the stock sms (WTF???) oh im pissed i did a full restore for nothing, yes i restored as a new iphone, so what the hell am i doing wrong?:mad:

fuz10n
Apr 24, 2009, 01:25 PM
and i still have a lag with the stock sms (WTF???) oh im pissed i did a full restore for nothing, yes i restored as a new iphone, so what the hell am i doing wrong?:mad:

everybody has lag with the stock sms :( I think it's an issue with the phone having to read message history from a database somewhere. They have recognized it and say they are working on it. Let's hope they fix it in 3.0

alphatectz
Apr 24, 2009, 01:34 PM
everybody has lag with the stock sms :( I think it's an issue with the phone having to read message history from a database somewhere. They have recognized it and say they are working on it. Let's hope they fix it in 3.0

Yea let's hope it get resolved.

Tokiopop
Apr 24, 2009, 01:49 PM
Reposts reposts reposts.

Why can't we have members that don't post stuff that's been and gone a dozen times?

And simply Jailbreaking doesn't lag anything, it's all the stuff you cram onto your iPhone.

alphatectz
Apr 25, 2009, 02:22 AM
Reposts reposts reposts.

Why can't we have members that don't post stuff that's been and gone a dozen times?

And simply Jailbreaking doesn't lag anything, it's all the stuff you cram onto your iPhone.

well i hardly use things i just jailbreak for clippy, and sbssettings, winter board only for transparent dock. still lags ( i know winter board causes lags but how else would i get a transparent dock?)

lavrishevo
Apr 25, 2009, 04:42 AM
well i hardly use things i just jailbreak for clippy, and sbssettings, winter board only for transparent dock. still lags ( i know winter board causes lags but how else would i get a transparent dock?)

Those apps you are listing are some of the number one culprits for lagging your phone down. Probably going to have to wait for the improved processing power and ram of the new iPhone to handle the background processing if you wish to be lag free. Otherwise get rid of Winterboard and SBsettings.

alphatectz
Apr 25, 2009, 07:28 AM
Those apps you are listing are some of the number one culprits for lagging your phone down. Probably going to have to wait for the improved processing power and ram of the new iPhone to handle the background processing if you wish to be lag free. Otherwise get rid of Winterboard and SBsettings.

that really sucks, oh well just a got to wait for 3.0

MikePA
Apr 26, 2009, 05:31 AM
Probably going to have to wait for the improved processing power and ram of the new iPhone to handle the background processing if you wish to be lag free. Otherwise get rid of Winterboard and SBsettings.

If, in fact, Winterboard and SBsettings cause lag, then they will cause lag regardless of the hardware they are running on.

alphatectz
Apr 26, 2009, 09:01 AM
If, in fact, Winterboard and SBsettings cause lag, then they will cause lag regardless of the hardware they are running on.

Thnx

p17blo
Apr 27, 2009, 11:55 AM
I only have Sbsettings installed to disable SSH to save some battery. Is there anyway to disable SSH (Without uninstalling it) without using sbsettings?

I too get a fair amount of lag in certain places.

The main reason I have JB my phone is for apps like PDA net which will never be allowed in the App Store

Paul

finatk
Apr 29, 2009, 08:50 AM
i decided the lag was getting a lil too much for me, so i DFU restored and re-jailbroke & all ive installed on top is SB Settings, Five icon dock & Five column & installous. So far everything is just as speedy as stock :D yes i had to leave out some of the nice icons / springboard packs but i SSH'd a nice font and some custom tones and im loving it :)

bytethese
Apr 29, 2009, 09:17 AM
I only have Sbsettings installed to disable SSH to save some battery. Is there anyway to disable SSH (Without uninstalling it) without using sbsettings?

I too get a fair amount of lag in certain places.

The main reason I have JB my phone is for apps like PDA net which will never be allowed in the App Store

Paul

Bossprefs?

alphatectz
Apr 29, 2009, 09:29 AM
i decided the lag was getting a lil too much for me, so i DFU restored and re-jailbroke & all ive installed on top is SB Settings, Five icon dock & Five column & installous. So far everything is just as speedy as stock :D yes i had to leave out some of the nice icons / springboard packs but i SSH'd a nice font and some custom tones and im loving it :)

Isn't installer & installous the same?
Why would you use it, it's just a waste.

zephead
Apr 29, 2009, 09:40 AM
I have mine jailbroken but I found that the number one culprit in lag is Winterboard. I installed it, put a theme on, and I got lag.

The only JB apps I have now are Cydia, Cycorder, SSH, Terminal, and SBSettings. There's still a tiny bit of lag, but I think it's worth it for SBSettings and it's not nearly as bad as when I had Winterboard.

bytethese
Apr 29, 2009, 09:53 AM
Isn't installer & installous the same?
Why would you use it, it's just a waste.

No, they are different. Installer is like Cydia but sucks(now anyway, used to be awesome pre 2.0). Installous allows you to install cracked apps, which if anyone does, is a total tart.

zephead
Apr 29, 2009, 10:23 AM
No, they are different. Installer is like Cydia but sucks(now anyway, used to be awesome pre 2.0). Installous allows you to install cracked apps, which if anyone does, is a total tart.

Installer is officially on my s***list now because it sent me into the endless restart loop. Only Cydia for me.